Cryo is included for Traveller's buffs

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LivingASlothsLife2026-01-02 07:15

We got Cryo Traveler buffs before Cryo Traveler is implemented, reverse doomposting

Shmarfle472026-01-02 11:12

Hopeposting let’s go

thwrlsgenshin2026-01-02 12:05

we got horse adeptus AND horse skin before actual horses so there's that.

Frost-Tree2026-01-02 07:35

cryo traveler is dps??

RIkhard92026-01-02 08:39

you always have these buffs when you have unlocked that element so cryo wont necesarily be a dps.

NamerNotLiteral2026-01-02 10:36

The buffs are themed to the element, not the traveler's kit. Geo traveler scales off ATK, not DEF, for instance,

Aerie1222026-01-02 07:41

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Available_Dig_75452026-01-02 07:41

The buffs are universal

Mombrki2026-01-02 07:49

All the buffs stack

gomitest2026-01-02 08:13

You don't need to be that element, just unlock it to get the buff

Ke5_Jun2026-01-02 08:57

Their point still stands; DEF and HP are not used well by **any** of the traveler elements, so why buff them? It’s like Xiao’s C4 giving him DEF; it’s not going to be a meaningful buff.

HP is still a maybe because hydro traveler kind of has an HP scaling part of their kit, but the DEF is useless on every single traveler element.

gomitest2026-01-02 09:06

Why? Because Hoyo never bothered to make traveler a strong unit, just an OK unit. I don't like it either.

Ke5_Jun2026-01-02 09:09

What’s with the downvotes? Again, I’m not arguing whether traveler is meta or not. He wouldn’t be good even after these buffs (these are simple stat buffs and are frankly not that impactful).

This is akin to giving Thoma ATK% ascension and Diona Cryo DMG bonus ascension, or Sucrose getting Anemo dmg ascension; they aren’t going to meaningfully benefit from these stats and so are functionally useless.

It’s not a question of how meta the character is; it’s about their kits actually making sense with the stats they’re getting.

gomitest2026-01-02 09:21

idk im not the downvoting you, most of the stupid ascentions are because they had no idea what they were doing back then and have no real incentive to fix it now.

Ke5_Jun2026-01-02 09:30

Yeah, and that’s why it’s weird they’re giving Traveler these buffs. Giving them an actually useful stat buff isn’t going to make traveler meta, and it certainly isn’t going to affect sales (in fact, it might **boost** sales because Traveler becomes a decent support for whatever shill they wanna sell; see Star Rail and Trailblazer).

**Unless**, they are also getting other kit changes that actually uses those stats (which, maybe?). But it’s unclear atm because we only know the extra talent for pyro traveler.

LiDragonLo2026-01-02 09:45

dmc was strong at one point though

CoconutxKitten2026-01-02 15:57

Still a solid F2P dendro applicator

Petter17892026-01-02 12:44

I'm not sure if you're aware, but the stats do things on their own independently of individual character kits. DEF reduces the amount of damage taken when you get hit and HP increases the amount of damage you can take before dying.

Ke5_Jun2026-01-02 12:52

Yes but this is not that important in the grand scheme of things, because you have shielders and healers.

Genshin is unfortunately the kind of game that doesn’t value defensive stats on offensive/pure support characters nearly as much, **unless** they actually scale off that stat (Itto for example wants DEF for his DMG; otherwise he actually has a passive that increases his dmg taken from enemies).

You’re not going to appreciate DEF on Xiao for example; his C4 is infamous for being terrible. What use is more DEF% on Xiao?

So I stand by my point that buffs to HP and DEF are useless on the traveler; they had enough survivability already. They don’t need more than they already have.

I’ve been playing this game at the abyss level since 1.X; I know what I’m doing. My Traveler is max talents and I clear endgame with him.

Petter17892026-01-02 12:58

As someone who doesn't play perfectly all the time, the extra survivability is welcome. Besides, it would be weird to just exclude those two stats and double up on something else instead.

Ke5_Jun2026-01-02 13:04

Frankly who cares if stats are doubled up; at least they are still useful. I’d take 40% ATK from pyro + geo, over 20% atk + 20% def.

Extra survival is marginal and even if you are not a skilled player, again, you have shielders and healers to cover your ass. You’ll have far more survivability running Bennett + traveler, or Ineffa + traveler, or Zhongli + traveler, than giving traveler more HP%, especially since it’s not like he has a particularly high base HP stat to begin with.

Like I said, defensive stats on non defensive characters (aka DPS or buffers) is not good in Genshin. Just how the game is designed.

Petter17892026-01-02 13:13

You do realize that if they had decided to give ATK from both geo and pyro, it would most likely have been 10% each, right? They aren't allocating Stat points after leveling up in a tabletop RPG. They are buffing a character, and choosing a thematic way to apply the buff.

Ke5_Jun2026-01-02 13:17

Tell me then, would giving DEF% to Zhongli do anything for him? I wouldn’t call that a Zhongli buff.

Because that’s exactly what this “buff” is to traveler. It’s not useful. You **may as well** give them 10% ATK twice then. It again, functionally would make no difference.

That is unless they gave traveler’s new passives some DEF/HP scaling, but that again would be exclusive to the one element they are using at the time.

If these are the “buffs”, frankly they may as well not buff traveler. If they intend for him to be bad, make it clear instead of giving these paltry “pity buffs”.

Petter17892026-01-02 13:21

You sound like the type of person that would find a penny on the street and be mad that it isn't a million.

RomanoffBlitzer2026-01-02 13:35

It's about the aesthetic of the Traveler getting all their stats boosted. If the purpose was to make them hit a certain level of strength, they would just increase the numbers of the rest of the buffs. miHoYo isn't hiding a secret super-strong buff that would make the Traveler meta if only they would replace the Hydro and Geo buffs.

Ke5_Jun2026-01-02 13:40

Again, I’ve said this to others.

It isn’t about making traveler good or anything, it’s about whether they even use the stats to begin with.

Yes giving them a stat for each element is neat, but their kit doesn’t use it. So… it’s literally just an aesthetic “buff”.

Again, it’s like you’re giving Sucrose anemo% ascension. Useless. So what if she’s an anemo character?

You may as well give them unique stats that aren’t OP like interruption resistance for geo. HP is still marginally ok because hydro traveler technically has HP scaling in his kit, so I can accept hydro’s buff. But DEF has nothing to do with GMC’s kit.

Crit rate has nothing to do with anemo either tbh, but they gave it to anemo anyways. So it’s not like geo has to be DEF.

You may as well be giving Navia or Zhongli DEF%.

rekage992026-01-02 07:48

Doesn’t matter when the kits suck ass as a baseline.

I mean, pyro isn’t *that* bad and dendro is OK. But lets be real, these buffs change nothing. It will help newer players who don’t have a roster of characters yet though.

Hexadermia2026-01-02 07:57

These buffs aren’t really the main buffs, more like some minor stat increases to make them closer to 5 star (and it’s universal so that’s neat atleast).

The real buff is the other passive. We kinda got the text for the Pyro traveller and we get a sneak peak of Hydro but apart from that, we don’t know the full kit change until they drop it.

zodyakRtc2026-01-02 09:13

Its just pyro infuse ca once per 15s. Its up to you considering that as a real buff or not lol. I dont care about mc buffs and just take it as a bonus. But trying to prove this buff is impactful is just miserable.

app082026-01-02 10:56

That's not quite accurate. It's an *enhanced* CA every fifteen seconds, after performing two nightsoul bursts. The pyro infusion is C6.

zodyakRtc2026-01-02 12:01

Curious about how much a charged attack can be impactful once per 15s. Anyway fella keep coping lol.

RIkhard92026-01-02 08:37

theyre not meant to make them meta, just some small buffs to make them feel better to play.

kinhearted2026-01-03 22:23

A kit rework makes them better to play. You won't feel that 20% def and hp. And gl using these free 60 mc on dendro traveler(definitely not powercrept by everyone)

DaSpood2026-01-02 08:16

Aside from anemo that's just elemental resonnance built-in basically

LiDragonLo2026-01-02 09:44

hm didn't realize that

GuideBusy31022026-01-02 11:34

And cryo

Mikauren2026-01-02 12:27

Only cause Anemo stole cryo resonance basically lol

buklau4ever2026-01-02 19:13

i'd say it's actually good for cryo and wtf for anemo? cryo resonance and artifacts already give you so much crit rate anyways that you don't really need it, so might as well get more crit damage. otoh crit for anemo is basically useless since the multipliers are so low anyways and most people use it for spread. realistically anemo should be like a 10% CD reduction

gryphon_duke2026-01-03 23:22

anemo traveler is the second character you use in the entire game, and the first one that actually matters 😭. free crit rate at the start of the game is awesome

DaSpood2026-01-04 06:46

You get these buffs after nod krai's story though, not at the start of the game, it's not a flat buff to traveler

gryphon_duke2026-01-04 07:48

oh lame

CoconutxKitten2026-01-02 08:21

People are missing that you get every single buff no matter which traveler you play, which is an amazing buff for traveler players

NamerNotLiteral2026-01-02 10:37

Gosoythoth sweating

WingsDT2026-01-02 14:36

As if that mf wasn't sweating already with the giga boosted Tumaini in that boss fight.

BrownAJ2026-01-02 15:13

I think cryo buff won't activate until we get the cryo vision

CoconutxKitten2026-01-02 15:14

Well, yes, obviously

WootyMcWoot2026-01-02 20:20

You only think that because it’s literally what it says

HiroNase2026-01-02 08:53

Is traveller meta now?

DeadMemeDatBoi2026-01-02 09:15

Skykeeper222026-01-02 10:29

Even now they are currently best for the Hexerei Mualani team. (Mualani, Pyro traveller, Sucrose, Mona). Maybe Mavuika can substitute the slot but still.

app082026-01-02 10:53

Mavuika is typically the preferred slot here, with PMC being the budget option.

jademarlodotcom2026-01-02 10:12

how fitting Geo got DEF buff

# EXCEPT THEY FORGOT THAT GEO TRAVELLER IS A FUCKING ATK SCALER

GroundbreakingArt4212026-01-02 10:24

They have us go and saved to Natlan in order to gain Pyro buff to buff Geo Traveler... bruh

Gaaraks2026-01-02 10:44

You get all buffs with any traveler.

These are just permanent stat buffs for traveler as long as you have the element unlocked.

Yes, hydro and geo effectively do nothing

ConohaConcordia2026-01-02 10:50

This, traveller’s base stat lines are that of a 4* and this helps them a bit.

Overworld tulpa two shots my fully built lvl 90 traveller so I’d take the free def%

KazakiriKaoru2026-01-02 11:33

We have no idea how the new passive buffs individual elements yet. Pyro got a strong CA. Geo could possibly have dual-scaling

SecretSpectre112026-01-02 10:21

Wow, we can now do 90% less damage than every other character instead of 95%

acart0052026-01-02 13:26

Put some respect on Dendro and Pyro those two are actually decent.

kinhearted2026-01-03 22:21

Truth tho, you dont have any need for traveler exept tournaments or challenges. Basically dendro-lauma/nahida(i swear everone have them by now) even emilie works better sometimes, for pyro mavuika with scrolls, other travelers are trash. So yeah its basically 5% more, traveler needs a rework

Skykeeper222026-01-02 10:28

As a traveller main, I’m just gonna ascend to heaven now

r0ksas2026-01-02 10:43

So basically all buffs can be active at the same time except cryo since szeshnaya aint available yet

fuguelet2026-01-02 10:46

free 20 er seems very nice

KazakiriKaoru2026-01-02 11:36

Same, now main dps pyro traveller will be easier to build

Dardrol72026-01-02 10:55

The buffs feels very element-coded so cry traveler seems to be a solid damage dealer.

Whilyam2026-01-02 12:01

We won't be getting the cryo buff ever, though, because the devs realized people will swallow any excuses they give to pad out the main story.

thwrlsgenshin2026-01-02 12:06

and even after buffs, hydro traveler still sucks.

well done, John Mihoyo.

furyofSB2026-01-02 14:53

Good, my 100 lumine will see more use. Imo pryo traveler is a usable 4-star level support most of the time.

Deveatation_ethernis2026-01-02 15:39

Oh wait this says the buff is based on what you've resonated with, not what your cyrrent element is. Traveller might actually become decently usable now

Fast-Ad-24152026-01-02 22:17

logically , because we still have to go to Snezhnaya in half a year and get back our Cryo Powers to become finally "complete" again.. would have been weird to leave it out, when we literally can know already, what its buff will be, compared to what the other elements buff already. To wait extra onto Snezhnaya being there first, just to tell us, the Cryo Buff will give us more Crit DMG, makes no sense at all.

However, its included, but we naturally also can't get it yet, we will get it first, once we received our Cryo Powers back as part of these stacking Buffs

Hojuma2026-01-03 07:20

Unless I missed something on geo Traveller, that Def buff is absolutely useless. At least hydro Traveller gets a teeny bit of HP scaling on damage and some HP-scaling dewdrop healing.

Mournlied2026-01-16 00:36

"for every element they have RESONATED with", not to mention we do have things that look at other party members stats instead of the character using/wielding something, like prototype amber healing based on the HP of the character being healed, or lunar reactions looking at the EM of every character involved in the reaction, so we can't just assume that DEF buff is 100% useless based on their talents scaling.

Hojuma2026-01-16 06:45

I read "resonated" as having elemental resonance with the Traveller, so having geo Traveller with another geo character.

I might have to check how it actually works next time I log in.

edit: Oh wow, teammates doesn't matter, it's the elements we unlocked (resonated) for the Traveller. That's way better than I expected.

ThatRandomCanadianV2026-01-03 19:53

Guess I gotta rebuild PyroLumine. Finally have a better reason to replace that er relic for more atk

kinhearted2026-01-03 22:24

Im sure in current "economy" buffs and scaling means less that good designed kit. Especially *low buffs*

Grand-Club30932026-01-05 21:09

I think they have accidentally shown us some Cryo traveler in the clip of Aether fighting the crab in fontaine during the livestream, there is a scene of a charged attack that at first glance looks like Hydro but it isn't, unless they have changed the Hydro normal/charged attacks with the new outfit they have a playable cryo traveler already.