Columbina's writing should haven another Direction.

I'm not happy with Columbina's writing, she's not well written and i'm tired of pretending she is. I mean the other Harbingers described her being creepy and even Childe doesnt want fight her. I expected Columbina being ominous, not evil but extremly dangerous. And what did we get ? Another clumsy Waifu for the Traveller. We need to talk about that. In my Opinion it took the wrong Direction and surely i'm not alone with that.

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_bruuuuuuuh_2026-01-03 01:59

No, Columbina's writing is good.

AddictedtoSaka2026-01-03 02:04

You havent seen good writing did you ? She's far from that.

_bruuuuuuuh_2026-01-03 02:19

Just because you don't like it does not mean the writing is bad.

AddictedtoSaka2026-01-03 02:27

We didnt know Shit about her before Nod Krai, all we know is the Szene in Winternight Lazzo showing her singing on Signoras Coffin and what the other Harbingers say about her. And suddenly she's the Moon Godess ? C'mon thats lame

Riersa2026-01-03 02:41

Are you really complaining that we learn more about character after we meet them? What the hell is this complain????

AddictedtoSaka2026-01-03 03:07

Its made up Bullshit because they didnt had a better Alternative acting as Moon Godess. Heck Nod Krai wasnt even planned.

shira10010012026-01-03 03:11

the moon goddess thing had being in the game since the begining

AddictedtoSaka2026-01-03 03:15

Cool, now read my Comment again and think. Pretty sure they didnt had Columbina in Mind for that.

shira10010012026-01-03 03:23

Hoyo is so incompetent that they invented colombina to.go aginst your head cannon.

Riersa2026-01-03 03:49

Ah yes because you know everything about the game.

KyrrithK2026-01-03 02:01

No, you're not. But you're pretty late to the complaining party, so everyone's already had their arguments and decided whether they like it or not. Still not gonna change anything.

AddictedtoSaka2026-01-03 02:06

Yeah lets continue that until the four Shades or even further.

KyrrithK2026-01-03 02:14

You think Hoyo won't? Go ahead and complain, maybe it will make a difference. But waifu game is going to waifu-fy their characters, and if they don't, all the people that came for waifus and buy waifus will leave the game. It's just appealing to your largest demographic, instead of trying to appeal to every niche and alienating the large part of your audience. If you don't want waifus, go play a different game instead of trying to twist this one into what you personally like.

AddictedtoSaka2026-01-03 02:37

I do play the Game for other Purposes and Waifus aren't one of them. Doesnt mean i need to quit because of that. If you want a Waifu Collector, go play Nikke or whatever.

KyrrithK2026-01-03 02:47

Well, do what you want. Complaining might help if enough people do it, but I wouldn't hold my breath. And a lot of people here are sick of all the people that come to post just to complain, me included. Like, send your complaints direct to Hoyo who might actually change something, instead of just bringing down the mood by complaining where nothing will come of it.

AddictedtoSaka2026-01-03 02:59

Dont worry i will complain to Hoyo......in the Survey, cant wait for that.

tyjz73_2026-01-03 03:00

Wow, I bet they're shaking in their boots.

Ravemst2026-01-03 02:01

Nope in fact this direction is perfectly fine. Also just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s bad writing it just means you don’t like it.

Whilyam2026-01-03 02:01

I don't begrudge her being a sleepy waifu, but the red and blue shift is so meaningless. We're told she's more imposing when the red shift happens, once, when we mention the Fatui. It's silly.

Edit: Downvotes for wanting more lmao

tyjz73_2026-01-03 02:04

She was never described as creepy. Just aloof.

The "creepy" thing was a community headcanon. Just because you wanted to believe something, doesn't make it true. And it definitely doesn't make it the writers' fault.

AddictedtoSaka2026-01-03 02:10

Have you read what the Fatui Members say about her ? Guess not.

tyjz73_2026-01-03 02:21

Have you read what they say? Where do they say that she's creepy?

Tartaglia says that Columbina is ranked extremely high among the Harbingers, yet he feels uneasy around her and advises us to be cautious in her presence. It makes sense that someone who is the 3rd of the Harbingers but spends all their time singing in the gardens would be a bit offputting.

Arlecchino says that her responses are inconsistent and unpredictable, often choosing whether or not to engage at all, and whose answers tend to be unusual or unexpected. This is just pure aloofness, which we clearly see reflected in the quests.

Wanderer says that she is innocent and oblivious, while remaining emotionally detached and indifferent to situations that would normally provoke concern, making interactions with her uncomfortable. This fits perfectly with the vibes we get with Columbina, especially during the first interactions.

The_Great_Ravioli2026-01-03 02:22

Clearly you haven't.

Arle:

> She is a very special Harbinger. Pose her a question, and the answer you receive will be entirely unpredictable, if she sees fit to give a proper answer at all.

Scara:

> Let me ask: what should you do if you were to encounter a "damsel" who is oblivious and innocent at any given time, and unconcerned and unfeeling in any given situation? If it were me, I could at least challenge her to a fight. But if it were you... with your conscience, I would stay away from her.

Childe:

> The Fatui Harbingers are ranked by strength, and I have no idea why that girl is No. 3. I'd test my skills with every Harbinger who ranks above me if I had the chance, but when it comes to her... something just doesn't feel right. Anyway, you should be careful around her.

All these decribe Columbina when we met her perfectly. Aloof and mysterious. She was never supposed to be some eldritch horror you clowns headcanon her to be.

HuTaosTwinTails2026-01-03 02:27

Have you?

Arlecchino:

> She is a very special Harbinger. Pose her a question, and the answer you receive will be entirely unpredictable, if she sees fit to give a proper answer at all.

Scaramouche:

> Let me ask: what should you do if you were to encounter a "damsel" who is oblivious and innocent at any given time, and unconcerned and unfeeling in any given situation? If it were me, I could at least challenge her to a fight. But if it were you... with your conscience, I would stay away from her.

Childe:

> The Fatui Harbingers are ranked by strength, and I have no idea why that girl is No. 3. I'd test my skills with every Harbinger who ranks above me if I had the chance, but when it comes to her... something just doesn't feel right. Anyway, you should be careful around her.

We get it. Your head canon was wrong and you're upset. But stop making shit up.

Namiko-Yuki2026-01-03 02:09

Arlechino about Damselette: "she is a complete airhead when you ask her a question she gives a random response that will likely have nothing to do with the topic, regardless the response will be interesting"

Weird fatuiHQ fandom : "omg biblicaly correct angel omg she is sooo creepy"

WhooooCares2026-01-03 02:10

The Devs themselves said in the [Livestream that Columbina's vibe is "naive and pure"](https://youtu.be/fjQ8xdcC9Eg?t=2734). She was written exactly as intended and that came across on screen, whether you like the direction or not that's good writing. You just didn't like the choice because it didn't match your preconceived notions.

Grouchy_Gap452026-01-03 02:30

Preconceived notion that hoyo themselves put in game via the other harbingers voicelines about her. Besides look as zibai, before nod krai she was just in one singular hoyofair teaser, it's only in 6.1 or 6.2 that voicelines began to appear about her from other liyue characters (zhongli, hutao...). So yes mihoyo can totally change the direction of a character some months before his/her release. And it's safe to assume that's what happened to columbina

tyjz73_2026-01-03 02:34

Have you actually read what the Harbingers have to say about her? Nothing points towards a rewrite. In fact it all makes more sense than it did before.

And Zibai has been in the game's lore since 1.0. The fan animation was just based on the book.

ElderOmnivore2026-01-03 02:39

Do you understand the concept of an unreliable narrator? Those thoughts are specifically just how those characters saw Columbina. Surely, you know people who didn't have good "reads" on others. It happens in real life and definitely is used as a literary device in all sorts of media.

Nyancromancer2026-01-03 02:22

I'm tired of pretending Characters are not talking from a filter of their own viewpoint and relationship when describing a character

maitre9962026-01-03 02:22

0/10 ragebait m8, try to be more creative next time.

AddictedtoSaka2026-01-03 02:29

Sure, everyone who doesnt eat that Slop is a ragebaiter. Makes Sense

ElderOmnivore2026-01-03 02:41

AddictedtoSaka2026-01-03 03:12

Hold on, did you just copy/paste your Comment ? xD

ElderOmnivore2026-01-03 11:06

Yes. Do you not do that when the same comment applies to more than one person?

Way to dodge the question though. I already see you're a hypocrite though. You point out others can't handle different opinions while saying it's bullshit and Columbina deserves better when people are disagreeing with you.

You are entitled to your opinion. You'll notice I didn't even disagree with it. I just disagreed with how you reached it because the argument you provided in that instance is a poor argument. I do disagree though. I thoroughly enjoy what they have done with Columbina. I especially like the part where it was written she abandoned the Frostmoon Scions because she felt the relationship became transactional. That isn't a direction many gods are taken.

A god actually coming to that conclusion and deciding it isn't for her is highly entertaining. The fact that we then have Dottore striving to become a god is a fantastic foil. I'm not saying it's super amazing nor groundbreaking writing, but I enjoy balanced approaches to writing. You apparently don't. That's fine. The difference here is that you made a post about people disagreeing with you and started saying they can't handle differing opinions all while proving you can't handle them yourself.

Before you respond something like, "It's not that deep, bro," again recall that you're the one that decided differing opinions were worthy of a post. I'm just responding to it.

Corvozz2026-01-03 02:52

Is there a leaderboard somewhere about getting down voted or is your first day in this subreddit?

tyjz73_2026-01-03 02:55

Seems they've decided to make the move over to FatuiHQ now lmao

Namiko-Yuki2026-01-03 03:02

best day would be if the Genshin mods just completely ban all people that are part of or regularly engage on r/FatuiHQ

Corvozz2026-01-03 03:06

Lmao, true. Lil bro went and search for someone with his same opinion and obviously ended in the most toxic of places

AddictedtoSaka2026-01-03 03:04

I dont care about downvotes much. Its just typical Reddit behavior about reacting to having a different Opinion.

Corvozz2026-01-03 03:15

I'm not talking about if your opinion is bad or good bro. Columbina is loved by almost every player just bc of her design, and now that is wife material is loved so much more, wtf did you expected when you made this post in the official subreddit of the game. Go to fatuihq if you want trash talk about harbingers

AddictedtoSaka2026-01-03 03:21

Nah its the right sub for that.

SimplyRzy2026-01-03 03:10

Ah yes the genshin classic "my head cannon isn't true and I'm mad about it" technique haven't used this from the 5.x era

Shahadem2026-01-03 04:30

Her writing is bad because her actions make no sense at all.

"I wanted a family so I joined an organization of evil that has been acting very aggressive towards the village I belonged to. Oh no! Big surprise! They were evil!"

The writer didn't even try.

Xirtie2026-01-03 05:42

There's three voice lines about her before Nod Krai and none says she's creepy.

Childe only questions her ranking. Wanderer says she's oblivious and innocent, and Arlecchino says she's interesting.

All those "creepy" stuff are purely fandom headcanon.

Zombie-Pinya2026-01-13 04:33

Creepy and ominous doesn't necessarily mean good writing. Just because you don't like her characterization doesn't mean it's bad.

What Genshin has always been good at was making larger than life characters feel human. I'm always surprised at the emotional depth they are able to explore.

For one I was pleasantly surprised how they were able to take the Damselette's "damsel in distress" archetype and give it depth by exploring it from another angle.

I think giving her an arc all about learning how to accept help from others and reframing much of the narrative from her perspective was such a unique way to make use of the "damsel" trope without robbing her of depth or agency. She even has nuanced relationships with many characters beyond the traveller.

She's not just a passive character. Her decision to go through the moon gate at the end of Act VI was so emotionally charged and was such a proactive move. Going into Luna IV it feels like she's going through her own hero's journey.

And I love that Genshin's writing was able to do that with a character that started off as just 'mysterious and creepy'.