Lunar vs Hexenzirkel meta

Hey guys so I am relevantly new to genshin started 1.5 month ago so far i have got varesa in this banner. I want to ask about the lunar vs hexenzirkel meta that's shaping which side should I invest in?

I have a guarenteed with 30 pity so I can get columbina and also zibai probably but just after them varka is also coming and he is leaked to be paired with durin and other hexenzirkel team alice and nicole is also said to be coming in 6.6-7 . So in which side i should invest hexenzirkel or lunar and wait for the other side to rerun to get one meta character from them.

And also should I pull for xilonen? As she is paired with so many team with furina ( I don't have furina also so again rerun wait ) or columbina ineffa duo is stronger than xilo furi duo?

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dearmusic2026-01-03 09:28

Luna is the current meta, not sure how long it will run, but hex is the next gen meta, we don't have much information on that yet seeing how Nicole is just a silhouette on a teaser image.

IcySignificance53402026-01-03 09:32

We don't know anything about the future Hex META yet so there's no way to give an informed recommendation. As for the last question: Columbina/Ineffa is leagues ahead of Furina/Xilonen. It's literally the current best wheelchair core of the game.

LIGHTNING_CHAMP_2026-01-03 09:37

What really? I thought xilofuri is on par with columbina ineffa as there were calcs of zibai columbina c6 illuga gorou/zhongli to be 141k dps with C2 illuga 121k and with zibai Columbina furina xilonen 139k

PaprikaCC2026-01-03 12:15

Furina's buffs don't do anything for Lunar reaction teams. If we assume your numbers are accurate, this implies that Furina + Xilonen in a Zibai comp only contribute 18k dps more than C2 Illuga and Zhongli, of which both do zero damage and only apply buffing. Xilonen's personal damage is negligible, so I will assume 80% of the DPS difference is only from Furina.

In order for the Furina/Xilonen core to be worth similar values to Columbina/Ineffa, either...

Furina by herself does 80% of the damage of Ineffa + Columbina combined

OR

Columbina/Ineffa also contribute about 18k dps to a Zibai team and Zibai does the remaining ~100k dps alone.

Both of these sound implausible so I'm assuming that Furina Xilonen are not close to being the best two character core.

LIGHTNING_CHAMP_2026-01-03 13:58

Here's the calcs for zibai with xilofuri almost hitting close to c6 illuga
[zibai calc](https://www.reddit.com/r/ZibaiMains/s/7mHwhDwQhY)

Namiko-Yuki2026-01-03 14:32

those calcs basically show that Columbina does 40% of the damage and Zibai the other 40%. with Furina on the SMS set - so buffing Zhibai and Bina, and that Furina only does 13% of that teams damage despite Xilo on scroll set buffing all Hydro damage.

Basically the only thing Furina does on that team is buff Columbina's Hydro damage (since her burst does nothing for reaction damage) and with her artefacts set being SMS means she is doing less damage with her summons and only acting as a buffer for the lunar reactions.

Xilonen purpose on the team is to res shred the enemy Geo and Hydro and apply the scroll effect to boost Hydro and geo damage (not reaction damage)

So they took two of the best supports for pure damage teams and turned them into reaction buffers to increase Columbina and Zibai damage.
Any other geo res-shred character will fill the same role Xilo does on that team (in the other team this is Zhongli role), and pretty much any other SMS holder would perform Furina role on that team.

TLDR : Furina and Xilo are way more worth in literally any other team

EDIT : if you look at other comments on that post you will also see that comment you are basing on has like 2 upvotes while others have higher, with teams that feature Gorou and Aino (both who make way more sense in Zibai than XiloFuri)

LIGHTNING_CHAMP_2026-01-03 14:50

The photo i gave is the most widely used one in r/zibaimains I can only find link to this 2 upvote one can't find the real post of the photo so but everyone uses this photo only there it was published after v3 when illuga nerfed happened. It's from vomfee/ GI kitchen if i remember correctly and zajef or whatever his name is has similar dps calc for zibai teams with zibai Columbina c6 illuga c6gorou at 145k only 4k difference

And also Should I get xilonen as she won't be coming back for an year and skip columbina until rerun as she is the archon type and will come back in 3-4 mo tha and ineffa entirely for zibai?

Namiko-Yuki2026-01-03 15:26

Really depends what you want.
Columbina is BiS for Flins, Nefer and Zibai teams, so if you want to run one of those Bina will help.
Columbina + Ineffa is basically a "slot in any other 2 characters" team where the team will be pretty OP.
Columbina can be a used as a Hydro applier in team due to the 100% uptime on skill.
Columbina can be a main DPS kind of like a Nefer-lite if you have Lauma.
Columbina can be slotted into teams with Electro/Geo characters to turn them into lunar teams and will likely be a generally good support for any team like that.

Xilonen is a generalist support in the same way Kazuha is, she is good in pretty much all teams that are not Dendro/Anemo based.
Xilonen res shreds the elements in your team.
Xilonen is a healer so helps with sustain, and goes well with Furina.
Xilonen on the embers set increases the parties elem damage for the elements she reacts with.

both are great characters with a variety of uses in different teams, it all depends on what teams you want to use.

AlaindeshoGT2026-01-03 09:45

Hexenzirkle's just a bunch of old witches that can't even compare to lunar reactions

Fay-19902026-01-03 09:59

Hexerei Meta didn't even start yet, you can judge when the main characters after Durin are released (Varka, Nicole, Alice... Etc)

AlaindeshoGT2026-01-03 10:02

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lipfang-moe2026-01-03 09:46

right now I'd say lunar is the better meta to invest in, but the hex meta is a bit more "traditional" and might be a better long-term investment.

hoyo likes to make metas that revolve around a mechanic, and then make tons of enemies weak to that mechanic to make the meta appear super strong. and then once that mechanic gets too powerful, they introduce enemies which counter that mechanic.

lunar is the current strongest meta, but the issues with lunar teams are that they require heavy investment (you pretty much need 2 limited 5 star characters), and all hoyo needs to do is create an anti-lunar enemy and lunar is dead for a while.

meanwhile, there's not a great way for hoyo to make an anti-hexerei enemy, as hexerei characters don't revolve around a specific mechanic. they don't deal a certain kind of damage (ie "nightsoul aligned" or "lunar reaction" or whatever), they just get some buffs when you play more hexerei characters. not to mention that hexerei characters aren't as strictly tied to being played on a specific team like lunar characters are.

lunar meta is built around doing big damage. a lot of hex meta is built around enabling a team to do big damage. for instance, flins/ineffa are a great pair together but you *need both of them*. same with nefer/lauma. but hex teams are more like a framework instead of a set team. sure, venti could be played with durin, but he can also be played with fischl / mona / klee / etc just fine. you can't really say the same for lunar teams.

and just for some durin glazing, he doesn't even need to be on a hex team to be good. you can slap him on pretty much any team and he'll be a great support, off field dps, pyro applicator, etc. i guess this is similar to lauma or ineffa though, as those two are very usable outside of lunar teams (until they add an anti-lunar-reaction enemy)

TL;DR, I think lunar teams are better right now, especially because there's a lot of enemies that are weak to lunar reactions at the moment. hex teams are likely more future-proof. we'll see though!

Ryuunoru2026-01-03 17:23

You should invest in >!the characters you enjoy playing with because ultimately the numbers are largely meaningless and the meta is subject to short term changes whereas who you enjoy at any given time isn't dependent on circumstantial factors!<. So in essence, >!choose who you like!<.