Question about Irminsul, Fates, and Names
After completing the Luna III Archon Quests and Durin’s character quests, we learn how important a name is in Teyvat.
A name functions like an ID that links a character to the world tree, which defines their fate. That’s why no two people in Teyvat can share the same name. I still find it a little absurd that, across eight nations’ worth of people, there isn’t a single duplicated name — but that’s beside the point.
Here’s my question: if no two names can be duplicated, what happens if someone shares a name with the world tree itself?
What kind of fate would that imply? Does the tree also possess a fate of its own? And if a person has the same name, would they share that fate with the tree?
The character in question is the Vinster King of Khaenri’ah from over 500 years ago — Irminsul.
Since we just had a major storyline emphasizing the significance of names, it feels unlikely that the two would share the same name purely by coincidence.
What do you think?
A name functions like an ID that links a character to the world tree, which defines their fate. That’s why no two people in Teyvat can share the same name. I still find it a little absurd that, across eight nations’ worth of people, there isn’t a single duplicated name — but that’s beside the point.
Here’s my question: if no two names can be duplicated, what happens if someone shares a name with the world tree itself?
What kind of fate would that imply? Does the tree also possess a fate of its own? And if a person has the same name, would they share that fate with the tree?
The character in question is the Vinster King of Khaenri’ah from over 500 years ago — Irminsul.
Since we just had a major storyline emphasizing the significance of names, it feels unlikely that the two would share the same name purely by coincidence.
What do you think?
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[https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Hroptatyr](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Hroptatyr)
Mocking Mask in EN:
>Since the stain of my compatriots' blood cannot be cleansed, I shall become The Jester, who laughs in the face of fate.
**Since my level of learning could not compare with the sages**, I failed to earn the favor of the previous ruler.
In CN:
>既然沾染的同胞的血无法洗净，那索性成为嘲笑命运的「丑角」。
**既然我的才学无法与「贤者」比拟**，没能获得上一位王者的青睐，
「贤者」is Hroptatyr's title, and we know it's a title because of the quotation marks. Still, EN did not fix this error. If you put it through a translator, it literally means "sage."
**Since my level of learning could not compare with the sages**
**既然我的才学无法与「贤者」比拟**
These look like a pretty good translation of one another. He did say "the sages," denoting that it is not a name.
And to keep it consistent, they should have said "The Wise" in EN.
In Chinese, they also refer to him using a title tho?
In Chinese, they use quotations as a form of emphasis, like in English, you can say stuff like:
I can never get as heartless as a "politician".
Adding emphasis on words.
「丑角」
I shall become The Jester, who laughs in the face of fate
那索性成为嘲笑命运的「丑角」
This is still the same thing; I don't see any translation issue.
The Chinese part is again emphasizing the word "丑角"
They are both talking about the title of the jester.
In the end he got corrupted by forbidden knowledge.