This scene was lowkey depressing

This guy gets mauled to death by rifthounds while searching for his daughter no matter what he does. The fact that the three people trying to save him already experienced some form of loss makes it even worse. At least he was given some closure

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Ccat509912026-01-05 18:49

Im sorry but that hat always gets me 😭

V0ct0r2026-01-05 19:07

citizens of hyperbonnet

grumpykruppy2026-01-05 19:07

100% pure Colovian fur.

The_New_Overlord2026-01-05 20:08

poor bastard kept his clown hat on til the bitter end

Frostgaurdian02026-01-05 20:22

Moon hat

S-Ruro2026-01-05 21:37

I feel like it would look just as ridiculous but at least more historical if they had gone for the Phrygian cap look. Alas.

Count_de_Mits2026-01-06 00:55

There are some ancient saka armors and clothes that look like a direct inspiration for this one

Jnliew2026-01-06 01:09

Unlike Sumeru that has plenty of Persian and other Western Iranian inspirations, Hyperborea's inspirations in regards to their names and clothing are very Eastern Iranian, with the cap being very [Saka inspired](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saka)

A great [Twitter thread](https://x.com/i/status/1998699379176182119) about Hyperborea

HermesPotentia2026-01-06 04:22

On the other hand, his funny hat gave him immunity to funny hats so he was talk to us normally despite Hat Guy's funny hat.

strongestforeskin2026-01-05 18:49

I don't remember anything as I just skip most of the dialogues by continuously pressing f . So what happened here

gryphon_duke2026-01-05 19:00

wouldnt you like to know weather boy

TunaTunaLeeks2026-01-05 19:09

Genshin players not beating the allegations here…

strongestforeskin2026-01-05 19:14

There is so much yapping in the dialogues so i find easier to just skip everything and then watch a lore explained video on YouTube.

Appropriate_Art_78222026-01-05 19:09

So basically, the three homonculus musketeers were carrying out an experiment on changing details in the past and happened to land upon this phantom guy looking for his daughter(also phantom) from the Khaenri'ahn cataclysm era
Since Durin is able to manipulate abyssal powers, he was able to create barriers that changed the choices made by the phantom in the past.
However, no matter what the homonculus trio did, it all ended the same way with the guy getting mauled to death by rift hounds
So, this phantom became able to interact with the trio and decided to talk about the future in his last 20 minutes before he became the riftwolf happy meal.

hadtiah2026-01-05 19:42

His time period wasn't khaenri'ah but hyperboreal, what killed him wasnt rift hounds but it was some blue beings similar to rift hounds. He didn't know about the other places like Sumeru and monstad

shira10010012026-01-05 19:55

nothing happened

HermesPotentia2026-01-05 18:49

Yeah I felt that. The Phantom guy's reaction felt so real and sincere for some reason. I hope I won't forget about Razmaspes

MyClientsBark2026-01-05 19:39

Right? His panic and confusion into slow understanding of the situation was heart-breaking.

He's definitely on my list of NPCs I love, even for as short as his scene was.

huehuehuehuehuuuu2026-01-05 20:50

He is a strong person. Instead of fear he actually found hope. Glad he got some closure.

Nero_PR2026-01-05 21:15

I'll forget just because of his name, but not his character 🥹

Master-Bottle3412026-01-05 18:53

I'm sorry but I couldn't get serious with that party hat😭

Nuka-Crapola2026-01-05 19:22

I’d seen that style of hat before, it legitimately is pretty ancient, but… fuck, I’m never gonna unsee it as a party hat now.

Jnliew2026-01-06 01:08

Katicflis12026-01-05 19:07

This was a bit heavy.

Pretty heavy shit in this region with rerirs history and laumas method of healing people.

Kronman5902026-01-05 19:08

I was kinda thrown off by this scene honestly lol like imagine you're in the apocalypse, your daughter is missing, and you have weird visions of your own death. Then suddenly 3 ghosts appear and just chat with you. Idk if my action there is to say "ah fuck it ill drop everything and hang out with u guys"

Nuka-Crapola2026-01-05 19:27

He seems to have become aware enough to recognize both a) the futility of his actions and b) the fact that time was effectively stopped while he was out of the “scene” (even if he wouldn’t last long). Having had the existence of *a* future confirmed, I took this to be him wanting to a) not be forgotten and b) validate that, if he did find her, there’d be a world for her to live in after.

Gentlemanor2026-01-05 20:07

My heart will genuinely crack if we find a book in the future written by a Hyperborian girl, and it says that her dad had visions of the future...

KazakiriKaoru2026-01-06 00:06

That kinda seems to be the directions we're heading to, with the Crimson Moon able to know the first part of Columbina's last name, before current her even thought about it.

Ok-Temporary-51262026-01-05 19:36

Peak middle-aged guy behavior

Alpha06Omega092026-01-05 19:39

He has realised it's futile

CoconutxKitten2026-01-06 00:34

I think he just wanted to take a moment to know his would-be saviors because he knew he was going to die no matter what. And then he took solace in the fact that things would be okay in the future. He got a moment to process his death, that things would be okay, & that he could face it

LaplaceZ2026-01-05 19:09

On one side yes, I did feel for him, but on the other side was the awareness that this is just a recreation of his final moments, this is not him, he is dead.

CoconutxKitten2026-01-06 00:36

No. He was connected to them. It’s why he could have a conversation & the way he died kept changing.

They were influencing the past

LaplaceZ2026-01-06 00:51

Maybe I'm wrong, but the influence is just the looping, not the physical actual past.

He will keep on looping and dying regardless of what they do, because he is just a reflection of what happened in the past.

They are not interacting with the past, they are interacting with a mirage of the past. What they managed to influence is not actually him, but just this projection of him in the past.

Because otherwise it doesn't make sense. They interacted with him multiple times, with multiple different outcomes. Sometimes he dies here, other times there, this time they talked to each other, other times they didn't.

So which one becomes the new past, because at the end there is only 1 past.

CoconutxKitten2026-01-06 02:59

They can change the past. We know this because Dottore does

LaplaceZ2026-01-06 10:35

When did he do that?

CoconutxKitten2026-01-06 10:36

…The AQ specifically has Nicole noticing a shift in the past conscious due to Dottore

LaplaceZ2026-01-06 10:43

Didn't she simply notice the projection talking about something they shouldn't be talking about? Her memory tells her something, but the projections says something different.

If the past changed, she wouldn't have noticed anything, because that's what the past has always been and her memory would have shifted as well. She's not a descender.

zappingbluelight2026-01-05 19:09

I feel you on this. When he become self aware that he have tried multiple routes and still end up dying. He choose to take a break, learned about the 3 strangers, then face his destiny after. I do love that he see the future people, and happy that humanity will survive. But kinda ironic he is talking to 3 man made living being.

I feel bad for Durin, he was given the power to enact changes, but destiny is still destiny. Especially when he is still pretty young, and already meeting so many hardship.

This patch definitely have a lot of "dammit" moment.

Templar2k72026-01-05 19:45

Durin SQ spoilers below.

>!Durin might be able to break some destinies now though. IIRC this happens before his SQ so he was still locked into real Durin destiny and now that his quest is done B said he had no designated path in Teyvat which could mean he can affect the fate of others now!<

HorribleDat2026-01-05 20:43

I think it's less breaking and more indefinite postponing it.

To quote the SQ:

Seer-Witch: Hear me now, for my prophecy is this: one day, the dragon from beyond the castle shall be reborn, and none may avert its coming.

The prophecy is Evil Durin's revival.

"M" tried to overwrite the ending with Mini Durin's revival by having him leave the castle to become 'dragon beyond the castle' but Teyvat refused to accept this.

So the trick became to simply NOT have an 'ending' by leaving the story open for Durin himself to continue writing.

I expect the idea is that just like how Focalors prepared the answer for Fontaine prohecy by having something to handle the aftermath and not to prevent it, Durin can continue writing his story until the day come where he has a solution to deal with Evil Durin's revival.

Templar2k72026-01-05 21:47

Barbeloth: "Just as I thought... This child's fate does not appear among the stars. Anya has accomplished what almost no one before her could."

He no longer is bound by Teyvat's laws of fate if Barbeloth can not see anything in his future than his fate of Evil Durins revival is gone and overturned existing outside of fates grasp he might be able to influence people in Teyvat like how a Descender.

HorribleDat2026-01-05 22:17

She didn't elaborate further beyond that Durin's fate doesn't appear among the stars though, she didn't decisively say her prophecy was averted.

Sure, maybe Durin could try to influence things, but as shown with this one the man still die.

Even Durin own fate not being among the stars could simply be fate biding its time. The prophecy only foretold the revival, not the when. Some day when Durin's story 'end' then fate could come in and go 'right, back to MY turn' and bam Evil Durin.

Heck, even with Traveler's involvement Fontaine still flooded as prophesized (if anything we might've even accelerated it with putting Furina on trial)

HiroshiTakeshi2026-01-06 09:20

One of which being like the brother of this guys' murderers no less.

Usurper-Abubakr2026-01-05 19:09

The Ost in this scene was phenomenal.

AgeAfter2026-01-05 19:09

If you've played Golden Apple Archipeligo back in 2.8 you know something like this has happened. Traveler tried to save someone from the past but they still end up dying

Rain-Maker332026-01-05 19:23

Sorry, could you refresh my memory about it? I just barely remember it.

KinglerKingpin2026-01-05 19:38

Not OP but on one of the islands you could solve puzzles and leave hints for a trapped adventurer who died there.

Kswendes2026-01-05 21:44

In 2.8 there was a world quest in Mona's island, about an adventurer named wolfgang you could find his diary talking about how he got trapped

Since Mona's island gimmick was time travel, you could go to the past version and leave clues to him, which eventually saved him but you end up finding his diary somewhere else where he died again, you repeat the same thing a bunch of times to realize that its eventually pointless because he'll die anyways (if you finish all of it, he ends up leaving the archipelago and dies in dragonspine)

KazakiriKaoru2026-01-06 00:04

>you repeat the same thing a bunch of times to realize that its eventually pointless because he'll die anyways (if you finish all of it, he ends up leaving the archipelago and dies in dragonspine)

The conclusion of the quest wasn't that Wolfgang died several times, but no matter how we "changed the past", the original Wolfgang still died in the first trap.

KazakiriKaoru2026-01-06 00:03

It's the Wolfgang side quest. Basically, the OG person died in a trap. But we managed to ''send clues to the past" that changed the outcome. But in the end, the OG person still died a sad death.

SomeAwakenedDude2026-01-05 19:57

Not the same thing but a similar thing also happened with Diredyth in the archon quest. You have a choice to not give her the key to change her fate but she still ends up as a hilichurl

HoshiAndy2026-01-05 20:15

As someone said. It’s not the same thing. The Golden Apple is isolated from time and space itself. So in that quest line. We left clues in the hope that if the Golden Apple opens up again and somehow reappears in his timeline. They could potentially be saced

Kswendes2026-01-05 21:41

How is the archipelago isolated from time and space? Isnt it just the haar island that are very far east from mondstadt to be well known?

Fatui still were able to access the island by 2.8, so yeah

HoshiAndy2026-01-06 00:08

It was stated by Venti/Alice, that the Golden Apple Archipelago is in its own separate dimension that during certain times will open up and allow access.

That’s why people ended up trapped and died there. Like the Inazuma trips and the maguu kenki that was left behind.

FluffyHDD2026-01-06 11:03

I think the implication is that the physical Archipelago isn't the real one. We see that to access the real one, Venti had to punch through into another dimension entirely with the help of Mavuika.

Cipher-DK2026-01-05 21:56

You're confusing GAA with Mare Javari. Mare Javari was thrown off the timeline to contain the Bakunawa. GAA was the tops of Dragonspine that Venti cut off and flung away so Mondstadt wouldn't be trapped in eternal winter.

rW0HgFyxoJhYka2026-01-06 02:38

Well...that's part of GAA. GAA was also an area where people used to be able to travel to by ships and got stranded there. Entire quest line about that. Even Seelie got trapped there via a bunch of portals. Then Alice reshaped most of it to be completely something else for GAA 2.

Mrjfrn2026-01-06 03:07

What was it again?

fourrier012026-01-06 06:23

Not just 2.8. It's also in 1.6 where we read letters on the stranded ship.

Axlzz2026-01-05 19:21

Re:Zero Subaru moment

Black-Star_GOG2026-01-05 19:27

They really should give different chara design to NPC some deserve it

hera-fawcett2026-01-05 19:31

this is a huge theme throughout the hyv--- can small changes end up rewriting the overall outcome?

its been seen in genshin multiple times- and will be seen again. its been seen in hi3. in hsr. and probably in zzz.

theres going to be a lot more of this in the story. afterall, the abyss twin is actively working to recreate khaenriah (by uploading all the memories into the ark key).

Interesting_Twist7082026-01-05 19:36

Voyger and koitar really screwed up the whole civilization

imbusthul2026-01-05 19:36

I don't think it's Rifthounds, right? But something else

hadtiah2026-01-05 19:44

Yea rift hounds were created by Rhinedotter 500 years ago, what was shown was just some blue mist but they did act similar to the hounds

Monochromatic_Sun2026-01-05 19:39

Secret story carry of the patch for me actually. It shows a lot of growth for all of them at the end and the speech wanderer gives at the end hit me in the feels. I just want the bby dragon boy to be a happy little bean but tyvat loves crushing his dreams.

misanthropicirishman2026-01-05 19:45

Where was this? New event?

fatefuldawn2026-01-05 20:00

This took place in Act V of the Nod-Krai Archon Quest, A Nocturne of the Far North.

misanthropicirishman2026-01-05 20:24

Ah I'm one archon quest behind and saw (what I thought was) dragonspine so assumed it was an event.

Gentlemanor2026-01-05 20:10

Bruh, it's Act 5 of the Nod-Krai Archon quest

Creative_Pie_12062026-01-05 19:46

The reason they didnt use rifthounds for abyss monsters was becauss abyss monsters like ridthounds didnt exist back then,they are Gold's creations.

Foggy white things we saw were probably not yet made version of hyperborean version of abyss monsters

WorstYelanMain2026-01-05 19:50

aaaah I had to try that part with him multiple times (because I'm horrible at games) and he grew on me

glad he found some kind of peace :(

Gentlemanor2026-01-05 20:15

Watch Hoyo squish our hearts more by releasing a book in the future written by a Hyperborian girl who mentions that she only survived the invasion because her father found her, then he also spoke about what seems to be visions of the future.

I would genuinely cry if they did this.

WorstYelanMain2026-01-05 20:55

let's cry together if they actually do that.

OneRelief7632026-01-05 20:26

It wasnt depressing for me cuz I hated the gameplay part of having to save him and it made me hate him.

Fuck the Razmaspes then. Fuck the Razmaspes now. Fuck the Razmaspes forever.

gamhmenoreddit2026-01-05 21:00

not with his silly little hat

Hykarusis2026-01-05 21:18

Maybe for you but for me it confirmed that hyperborea was the ancient civilisation in plain text so WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

blastcat42026-01-05 22:47

It felt positive to me. How many people get a chance to reflect on their final moments with the benefit of hindsight? Plus he also got a chance to glimpse into the future and see that there is hope, and not just death and despair.

coffeeaddictfromcebu2026-01-06 00:03

Yes it was depressing. but I kind of found it funny how he was the only one wearing a party hat.

tptch2026-01-06 00:06

This was a nice chat. Well, time to go to my impending death, have a good one.

Mozzarellus_Pizzus2026-01-06 01:49

I'd agree but his birthday hat is FUCKING KILLING ME

schalowendofthepool2026-01-06 03:03

"It was great meeting you guys, but if you'll excuse me I have a face to get ripped apart in a few minutes."

Mrjfrn2026-01-06 03:06

He is also got killed by some lunatic for checking on them.

ExceedAccel2026-01-06 08:23

This is the worst shitties miniquest in Archon quest I have everplayed ngl

Whilyam2026-01-06 17:49

It's only depressing if you don't understand that the whole point of this scene is him coming to acceptance and facing his end with dignity.