I have never crowned a character, am I missing something?

I am not a new player. I have been playing for 2 and half years, AR 59.

I have 27 (without counting manekins) fully ascended characters half of them are level 90.

But I have never crowned any characters ever. I use daily resins and play events regularly, I just always ends up building characters or farming for already built characters.

And I am basically broke all the times, no mora, no artifact level up material, no character level up materials (right now I don’t even have enough to level up a single character from 80 to 90 I think), sometimes not even weapon level up materials. I even buy the battle pass each patch.

I do have multiple top 1-5% characters and even more under top 10%.

I have no idea how people have lot of triple crowned characters. Are they like playing for 4+ years or something? Or do they play differently?

Only waste I can think of I do is, leveling up every built characters normal attacks to level 6 for aesthetics. But that’s not a big waste.

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Income_Correct2026-01-07 07:20

i think its the artifact farming. having a character in the top 5% or top 15% isnt a big deal. so, if you would use your energy to get lvl up materials or gold, you would not have this problem. and what do you miss by not crowning? around 5-7% damage, its also not a big deal

Stunning_Positive2482026-01-07 07:22

I mean you're missing the dmg or healing or whatever from level 6 to level 10-13. If you're not leveling past 6, you're leaving a lot of gameplay on the table

Akomatai2026-01-07 07:25

A lot of talents contribute virtually nothing to team damage or support, and would largely be a waste to max out. Those are the ones they're probably leaving at 6.

Oxytal2026-01-07 07:38

You're correct that a lot of talents contribute virtually nothing, but the obverse is also true that some character scale really hard off of their talents, it's not a reach to say that you can get guaranteed stat/damage increases by leveling some talents even further with a crown, especially so if you've been playing a long time, have tons of them at the ready, and have only selectively leveled your characters (Are you really gonna maximize your Gorou and/or level his normal attacks in 2026?).

Akomatai2026-01-07 07:44

>and have only selectively leveled your characters (Are you really gonna maximize your Gorou and/or level his normal attacks in 2026?).

I'm pretty sure this is what OP is saying? Most character's normal attacks are worthless, so those are the ones they're leaving at 6.

OP has spread their resources to have a lot of well-built characters. In terms of efficiency, it's usually the right move to skip the crown and spend that resin elsewhere

Oxytal2026-01-07 08:17

Yes but my point is that it can also be more efficient to spend your resin on guaranteed stat/damage upgrades (crowning *some* talents) over gambling over smaller increments in artifact upgrades or leveling talents on characters that contribute less to team damage

To OP's original point, if you've been playing a long time is it really difficult to imagine that in a deep pool of characters you would have crowned multiple characters where their talent scaling is very important whose resources you put into instead of leveling near useless talents to lvl 6 or so?

Akomatai2026-01-07 08:29

>that it can also be more efficient to spend your resin on guaranteed stat/damage upgrades (crowning *some* talents) over gambling over smaller increments in artifact upgrades or leveling talents

If you're already at that point in your team's builds, sure. I definitely don't think it's often that you're getting more out of crowning a talent than spending the resources elsewhere, when you factor in the cost. Even for hypercarries.

OP seems to prefer building a large roster, so until they find someone they really just want to hyperinvest in, it's pretty much always going to be worth it to skip the crown

Fit_Industry61822026-01-07 15:50

OP has 27 crowns.

He’s at the point where he could finishing leveling up talents of characters he likes to play.

And he’s choosing not to. Which is fine.

But he’s also coming to Reddit acting like he can’t understand why people would crown.

Play the game how you want, sure.

But dont play dumb acting like you (OP) don’t understand how leveling up talents can help that character, that character’s team, and the entire account.

Akomatai2026-01-07 16:44

>But he’s also coming to Reddit acting like he can’t understand why people would crown.

>But dont play dumb acting like you (OP) don’t understand how leveling up talents can help that character, that character’s team, and the entire account.

I'm not seeing this anywhere in their post? They're wondering how people have the resources to triple crown multiple characters. Triple crowning a character is almost always a large waste of your resources lmao

TheSynthian2026-01-07 07:42

I said the normal atk to level 6 for every character even when you don’t have to.

Other 2 are minimum level 8. And most important one level 9.

Akomatai2026-01-07 07:23

>I have 27 (without counting manekins) fully ascended characters half of them are level 90.

>I do have multiple top 1-5% characters and even more under top 10%.

You're just spending your resin more efficiently. Some have been playing for a long time and have the resources to fully build out a character. Some save all their fragiles for when they want to go all in on a character. A lot of people just care a lot more about hyperinvesting in their favorites rather than fully building out many characters.

jvsm_est2026-01-07 07:24

Wdym "how people have so many crowned characters?" You farm books, weekly bosses, mora ley lines and you crown them?? You don't have to spend your resin on a _chance_ to upgrade your character's stats via artifacts, and take a guaranteed upgrade through talents/crowns.

TheSynthian2026-01-07 07:51

I don’t know, it’s kinda hard to look at when you don’t have at least the minimum requirement stats.

Like double crit artifacts. Or em and er for support, etc.

Plus now with artifact extractor thing you need like 2-3 good artifacts, which is doable. But it of course it takes considerable amount of resin.

Then even if I don’t need to farm artifacts, then I end up upgrading another character (a useful or someone I like), and after farming leylines, talents mat for them, you again go back for artifacts. I am never left with anything to spare.

It’s like a cycle I guess.

RubApprehensive25122026-01-07 08:12

Trust me, once you find a character you really like playing or one you find using a lot, you would crown them instantly.

babangelsin2026-01-07 07:29

>I just always ends up building characters or farming for already built characters.

stop doing this

>And I am basically broke all the times, no mora, no artifact level up material

to prevent this

you are welcome

Body-Connoiseur692026-01-07 07:31

I only crown the characters I like and whats needed on them, but not all. For example my Neuvi has 10/9/9 simply because the skill and burst contribute very little to his damage.

Betterthan4chan2026-01-07 07:31

You're supposed to use resin to help you crown characters.

You don't need to slave away in artifact grind all the time. Your 5% build might actually be a 12% build cause it's missing essential crowns.

Spend a few days grinding the talent books and mora to level important talents. Trust me, you wouldn't have found an artifact upgrade in that time anyway

TheSynthian2026-01-07 08:08

I actually have times that I stopped farming artifacts, because I have actually got good enough artifacts for every character I have built.

Then I have a list of characters I want to upgrade like good 4 stars. Then I farm for them. After like level 80 fully ascended and talents 6/8/8, I go back to artifacts farming for them if I don’t have good spare.

If I finish that, by then I surely have a new 5 star to upgrade. I don’t think I have ever caught a break for this cycle haha.

Right now I am almost done farming artifacts for all the characters I have built (just need to use the extractor next patch). And in the next 2 patch I will be getting 2 new characters, plus I still have like 2 useful 4 star I haven’t level up yet.

Betterthan4chan2026-01-07 08:11

From what it sounds like, you like building a bunch of characters, which I guess explains your super thin resources.

Older players usually only have 1-2 new characters they want to build each patch, which is enough time to max out each character.

One of these patches, you'll have a skip patch, and you can use that to catch up on crowning your chars.

lawlianne2026-01-07 07:34

You basically don't need the crown unless you are keen on speedrunning, like for Dire Stygian Onslaught.

You're not setting any records worth chasing for without the c6r5 anyway.

Lolis-2026-01-07 07:44

yes you are missing 6% damage which is equivalent of 10 years of artifact farming

for reference if you have a "top 1%" build then going from lvl 9 to 10 talents is the equivalent of 2-3 full substats which at 3k+ rv% usually means multiple years of farming lol

Lolis-2026-01-07 08:00

if you care enough about meta (which you do since you know how to use akasha) then at the very least you need to crown all of these

* Bennett burst
* All sources of significant damage on your carry
* All sources of res shred e.g. xilonen
* All other damage amps e.g. furina

TheSynthian2026-01-07 08:30

Oh wow.

I usually clear all the end games, spiral abyss all stars, stygian fearless and theater 10 stars, sometimes 8, but this is about character amount.

I honestly didn’t thought it is that big of a deal since you have it level 9 already. Guess I am missing out a lot.

algunarubia2026-01-07 07:47

I didn't start regularly crowning characters until I got "rich". I've been playing since 1.0, so sometimes, my rate of earning mora and experience books has actually exceeded my spending and I ended up not really having anything better to spend it on. When I was in your position (aka Mona level broke all the time), I only had Itto and Zhongli crowned because they were my favorites.

TheSynthian2026-01-07 07:55

How do you even manage to earn that much haha? Only time I have a surplus is when there is an event that gives mora as rewards. Or after completing endgame events.

Like yesterday I had like 10 million, now I am back to being broke after leveling up 4 artifacts to 20.

RubApprehensive25122026-01-07 08:18

Trust me, after playing this game from 1.0, you realize you don't need to wish for more than 4 characters in each region. This then brings the issue that you will always accumulate more resources than you can spend. Especially since ar60 actually brings a sizable amount of mora to the table each daily.

algunarubia2026-01-07 21:32

It's not that I manage to earn so much, but that my rate of building new characters slowed down.

In 1.0, there were 23 new characters. Think of this as "the backlog". At the beginning, I was trying to build 4+ characters at the same time, which the game doesn't give out enough resources to do comfortably. But the game only adds 1-3 new characters per patch. Once you've cleared through "the backlog"- ie, you built all the original characters you're going to build- you're basically at "run the business", which is pretty manageable. I had mora problems this patch because I realized I genuinely wanted to build Durin, Mona, Klee, and re-tool my Venti a bit for Hexerei and building 3-4 characters at once is expensive. But once you clear the backlog and you've only got 1 character to build in a patch, you'll make more than you spend.

CHONPSCa2026-01-07 07:48

Talents are easier to upgrade than artifacts because it does not rely on rng levelling up. If it says it's gonna raise by 3%, it's 3%.

Crazy how you farmed a lot of artifacts but didn't realize talent is easier.

TheSynthian2026-01-07 07:58

Amount of characters is also an issue here I think. Like if I starts now I have like 20+ characters who have at least 1 talent to get crowned.

And that one is super expensive. Gold books plus mora.

And enemy mats which is painful to collect if you don’t have it already. Especially for level 10.

Artifact farming is easier in that sense.

RubApprehensive25122026-01-07 08:16

You can share artifacts. You don't need an original set for every character. Plus, for most characters, when you upgrade their good talent, it is roughly a 5-10% damage increase which is a lot for many characters.

TheSynthian2026-01-07 08:20

Yeah, that’s a dumb thing I do I guess. I basically never share artifacts not even weapons.

All the built characters can be played in any mix or alone without doing anything. It’s just satisfying even though I am clearly missing out of obvious upgrades. Probably my OCD.

RubApprehensive25122026-01-07 08:26

Trust me, you are not late game if you are still ar59. Only care about artifact grinding for a full set for each character once you are ar60. You get enough mora for 1 lvl 20 artifact each week from dallies alone plus you get all adventure ep turned into mora.

Just level up important talents now, see the rewards later.

CHONPSCa2026-01-07 08:34

9-10 doesn't have that much difference. It's expensive so triple crown is a personal choice. I only have 2 triple crowned characters. But if you're sitting at 6, it's gonna be a problem lol. The jump from 6-9 is pretty big

TheSynthian2026-01-07 08:39

I have all the needed talents at level 9. Only attack (if you don’t need it) at level 6.

Monochromatic_Sun2026-01-07 07:56

Most supports these days don’t contribute a lot of talent damage so those are largely meaningless. Usually it’s on fielders that want triple crowns and even then there are several that have skill damage over writing normal attacks so they don’t need full crowns either

PidoveEnjoyer2026-01-07 08:01

I usually go for “good enough” on artifacts and dump my resin into levelling and talents instead.

I farmed for two years for Eula artifacts just to hit top 40% or so.

Gave up and decided talents and levels wouldn’t be RNG at least!

calmingteabag2026-01-07 08:03

>I have no idea how people have lot of triple crowned characters. Are they like playing for 4+ years or something? Or do they play differently?

Yes...and yes. People who has been playing for longer /usually/ have more resources to spare because they have fewer characters to build. The longer you play, assuming you take no breaks, less resources constrained you are.

Also people don't go crowing characters left and right, they choose carefully who to build and what talents are worth leveling up because those items are rare. I leave some of my characters at lv9 talents myself if I think they are good but not good enough to deserve a crowned talent.

irllyshouldsleep2026-01-07 08:04

4 yrs f2p and I def can easily triple crown a few characters if I wanted to (if I didn't slack off on doing weekly bosses that is) cuz rn I'm just constantly farming a domain for a character that alr has an acceptable build.

htp-di-nsw2026-01-07 08:06

I started in 1.0 and was AR 60 by the summer of 2021. The fact that you have not gotten there in 2.5 years tells me that you're not playing daily and that you're leaving a lot of resources on the table, which is why you're in this predicament.

I have used every crown in the game. All of them that were ever offered. I think that's triple crowning 24? 25? Something in the 20s. I know I have one left over for the next character I intend to pull.

Of the rest of my characters, all but 10 are level 90. All of the level 90 characters that aren't triple crowned are 9/9/9 in talents. The remaining 10 are characters I hate. But they are still level 70/80 with 8/8/8 talents. Every one has 90 weapons. Every one has a good (or better) set of artifacts. I likewise have quite a few in the top %s.

So, yes, you're missing out on guaranteed, set power increases in favor of gambling on that .1% chance for a 1% upgrade on your artifacts. In my opinion, artifacts are the *last* thing I mess with because they are the least likely to offer any return on investment once you have a reasonable basic set.

TheSynthian2026-01-07 08:24

Yeah I definitely had breaks now it’s more consistent. Total days are like 500 I think. And I will be hitting level 60 pretty soon, already more than half way done with 59.

So you don’t farm artifacts that much? When do you stop usually? Most supports are generally easy since it’s (hp/em/atk) and er.

htp-di-nsw2026-01-07 09:25

I don't *stop* farming artifacts, I just only *start* farming when the character is 90 and 9/9/9+. Artifacts are step 2. And when I don't have a new character coming up, I farm artifacts. As an example, I intend to pull Columbina and Ineffa. So, I have 46 boss drops, 114/63/9 gold/silver/bronze talent books, etc. already so I am back to artifacts.

Conscious_Face_5512026-01-07 08:16

Damage wise, yes. For Mavuika she gains almost 7-8% DMG just by crowning her skill, burst, Bennett Q and Xilonen E. To compare it, her C1 is a 10% DMG increase

Only after my mora and XP book savings drained, i faced my mistakes and changed my way of managing my resources. Not every characters needs to be Lvl90 and not every skill has to be leveled up.

avarageusername2026-01-07 08:28

I crowned a lot of talents. Yeah, i i play for 2 and a half years, at this point im all caught up with building the characters i have so i save up a lot of mora and books in between pulling characters. I just double crowned varesa and barely had to farm any talent books to do it. I also have pretty much all already released characters i really wanted so I dont pull new ones as often. From nodkrai i only pulled nefer and lauma so far. Skipped ineffa, flins, durin.

Neleothesze2026-01-07 08:53

You have an interesting way of doing things... if you get everyone 6/8/8, what about dps that scale off their normal attack? Shouldn't you at least switch to 9/8/8 or 9/6/8?

And why waste mats on normals for characters that skill + burst and switch? Is it an ocd thing? For some characters, you will never keep them as the active character after using their skill & burst... That's millions of mora and mats spent on something you won't ever touch unless you play badly. Meanwhile, you're gimping your dps and subdps for no reason. 🤔

TheSynthian2026-01-07 09:00

If they scale with normal atks it’s 9/9/9 (or 9/8/8 or something of that combination) I mean almost all characters use their skills and burst to some extent right.

And yeah that everyone to 6 thing is probably OCD related. I basically do it with all the other talents, first I get them all 3 to 6 and then upgrade skill and burst to next levels. I don’t think it’s that expensive, like only silver books and low amount of mora. Looks pretty satisfying though.

esztersunday2026-01-07 09:36

"I do have multiple top 1-5% characters and even more under top 10%."

WOW

"I have no idea how people have lot of triple crowned characters. Are they like playing for 4+ years or something? Or do they play differently?"

Most players only do that for their favorites! I have 17 crowns, I triple crowned only Neuvillette, some have 2 Nahida, Furina, Navia, Chasca, Arlecchino...

Why don't you use them on your most used characters? Those don't do anything in the inventory!

rimirinrin2026-01-07 10:06

You should just stop blindly levelling any characters. Think of your play style, what teams do you want to build and focus on them. You're stretching your resources too thin if you're training every other character. I only triple crown my main teams.

Fit_Industry61822026-01-07 14:06

“I’ve never wanted said ability to do MORE. I’ve always been fine settling for mediocre talent numbers, %’s, damage numbers, etc.”

I’m not judging you for THAT. If that’s how you want to play, go for it.

What I am judging you for? Is having 27 characters ascended, play daily, etc etc etc. So you OBVIOUSLY know why leveling talents can matter.

Yet you come to Reddit acting like “duh, uh, guh, buh, uh, why level them up past 6?”

THATS judge worthy.

Own that you play how you want. But dont act dumb like you don’t see why crowning has benefits. GTFO.

TheSynthian2026-01-07 14:15

Dude, you are the one being dumb here without being able to read a post fully. Judge yourself for lacking reading comprehension.

I said I level up “normal attacks” of every character I level up to level 6 even if they don’t use it, for aesthetic, and I counted it as a waste because it is useless in practice.

Literally made an edit after because some people like you don’t even think for a second before jumping into conclusions. I clarified there other 2 are always level 8 minimum and level 9 for important talents and characters.

CorrectOlive43842026-01-07 14:34

They have the resources to crown because they lvl up the necessary talents before grinding artifacts, grinding artifacts is last thing for building characters since all the other stuff is guaranteed while artifacts is just chance and usually only for small increase from a decent piece to a slightly better one and takes tons of resin.

Usually for me if i want to use the character right away i might throw a mediocre set on them in the meantime but grinding those god tier 1% artifacts is definitely the last step.

You don’t really need to crown characters tho and few would benefit from triple crown. But if you’re using the character enough its a guaranteed bump in dmg and definitely worth it. As for triple crown, usually people just do it cuz flex with favorite character, whether optimal or not.