Paimon and dettore connection. (Including more paimon discussion)

Ok I don't wanna sound like I am a really big lore person cause I am not that involved as some other people but I want to start a discussion on some things I have noticed while playing the game and watching the media.

First of it is that in the dettore splash art the moons are on the exact same order as in paimon's cape other than the eternal moon taking the place of the frost moon and a new probably artificial moon taking the eternal moon's spot.

Another thing is when I was doing the wake of Narzissenkreuz world quest and in it Paimon appeared in the world. So I was experimenting and I figured out that if you open the paimon menu when Paimon is in the world she stops moving like all the other characters but if she isn't in the world she doesn't.

So the paimon menu paimon is different from the world paimon? That is confusing because that would mean paimon follows the rules of this world but also doesn't.

So I wonder what this makes paimon? For now my intuition is that the paimon We see isn't the REAL Paimon but an organ or an extension of the REAL Paimon who is probably beyond the sky.

Still I wanna start a discussion about that here.

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Supreme-Machine-V22026-01-07 21:22

I'm so confused by your explanation.

So basically you think Paimon is Fake because she doesn't pause?

Wouldn't it be easier to assume she is out of this world then being a piece of someone?

Correct me if I misunderstood you please.

Pokemonsid2026-01-07 21:28

Well no I think that the Paimon We see is like an image of the Real Paimon that is beyond the False sky.

I get that from the melusine that said "paimon is like a rainbow balloon with her string extending upwards beyond the say"

And Alberto hinting at her being an organ of the traveller.

Also whenever we use anything in the paimon menu like the party screen or the inventory or even change the time if you look carefully you can see paimon going up and disappearing before the screen opens.

I think at that moment she goes into her real body to access her actual powers which she can't with her body in the world.

Pokemonsid2026-01-07 21:35

Also I mentioned the pause thingy because when we are in the dettore cutscene paimon stops moving when dettore stops time but she doesn't when we stop time using the paimon menu. So I was in a quest and paimon was in the world meaning she was there as an interactable npc instead of appearing in the menu, but this time when I paused the game paimon stopped moving too along with all the other NPCs. I found that weird cause Paimon does move when we pause the game using the paimon menu and she is not in the world

PostHasBeenWatched2026-01-07 22:18

I'm confused with this part:

>First of it is that in the dettore splash art the moons are on the exact same order as in paimon's cape other than the eternal moon taking the place of the frost moon and a new probably artificial moon taking the eternal moon's spot.

So you saying that Dottore moons and Paimon moons have same order but moon 1 (ignore actual number, I just added them for example) swapped with moon 3 and moon 2 swapped with moon 1. So where is the "same order"?

Pokemonsid2026-01-08 05:46

Oh that it's because dettore never got the frost moon.
I assume that in paimon's cape the moons are either organised on the basis of their power scale or size.

But because dettore doesn't have the frost moon marrow he creates an artificial moon I think which takes the place of the eternal moon because it is stronger than it.

And that if he had the frost moon marrow the eternal moon would be in the centre like in paimons cape