I have to choose one of them, and I want to emphasize that i'll have C6 Illuga.
For Flins team, i can get Columbina in rerun.
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MofoPro2026-01-09 01:52
Slow down they haven’t even been released yet , well 3/4 of the top team anyway
InukoJon2026-01-10 18:59
Yeah… Ms Hina still isn’t playable Dx
SecyaDenali2026-01-09 01:56
I choose Ningguang, Xilonen, Bina, Ineffa. Im faithful to the main woman of Liyue.
But honestly yes both are extremely good everybody is charlie sheen winning. Flins lowkey has the best aesthetics with Aino/Ineffa so fkn cute together.
"Inefwah" I cant handle that lmao
Efficient_Bluebird_22026-01-09 01:57
How do you guarantee a C6 4*
rakanism12026-01-09 02:00
I'll pull C6R5 Neuvilette
ace1841842026-01-09 03:48
Not to poop on your plans but on multiple prior banners people have pulled a C6 of the 5 star but only had c2/3 of the 4 star. Im not saying its common or likely just possible as there is no 4 star pity. There was some poor player that pulled wanderer to C6 and still had only C2 faruzan so pulled Itto to C6 on the other banner and … C5 faruzan. Just saying its not a given that C6 Illuga comes home even to C6 both banners.
To answer your original question the power level of those two teams should be similar so I think you pull whoever you like better. Thats even assuming just a C2 illuga for calcs from what I recall. Anyway, good luck on your pulls!
rakanism12026-01-09 03:55
Thank you for the information. Actually, I'll be getting C9 instead of C6, meaning I'll reach level 100. Then I'll get Zibai. I'd have to be very unlucky for Illuga not to be C6.
ace1841842026-01-09 15:11
If you hit 500 pulls the chance is 1% or less but that still happens. I hope its not you but again you may get very lucky and get the c6 with or without the three extras at 300 pulls and then you have a 10% chance of not getting C6 illuga. Good luck!
refance2026-01-09 02:00
Get the C6 of the banner character, if you don't get the 4★ to C6 you are the unluckiest person on earth
notthatjaded2026-01-09 02:24
There are people who have managed to get multiple cons of a 5\* before the 4\* they wanted actually showed up. It's not as unlikely as you might think.
Supreme-Machine-V22026-01-09 04:36
My friend got c2 Xianyun trying to get iansan C6 (they only got to c2)
TheLastTitan772026-01-09 12:06
Just cus it happened doesn't mean "it's not unlikely as you might think" - it's still statistically very unlikely
r0ksas2026-01-09 03:50
Thats the thing, it happens, c6 limited 5* is easier on most occasions than the chance of getting a c2 4* character
thwrlsgenshin2026-01-09 09:24
I got Durin AND Venti before getting a single copy of Jahoda. Took me 2 years to get Chevreuse from C5 to C6. Isn't that uncommon as you may think.
MrKoopaTroop2026-01-09 01:57
What metric are we basing this on? Dps? Affordability? Flexibility? Cause the answer is different depending on what we're looking for in a team. And how many primos are we working with too? Cause c6 illuga + columbina + zibai is a hefty ask depending on the primo amount.
refance2026-01-09 01:59
Zhibai numbers are better than Flins
Ravenwolf222026-01-09 02:09
If you have C6 gorou and illuga
refance2026-01-09 02:10
C0 Illuga or C6 Illuga?
Far-Law4112026-01-09 02:12
c6, hes unusable below c2
Black-----Manta2026-01-09 03:26
Barely, with no sustain, requiring C6 Gorou and Illuga. Flins is going to be practically better in neutral content nearly every single time
refance2026-01-09 05:48
The team assumes C6 Illuga and having 3000 def is some sustain also PA Bina
Black-----Manta2026-01-09 05:56
In context it's a person deciding what team to get, assuming C6 Illuga means assuming putting in around 250-280 wishes into the banner (along with getting C0-2 Zibai), or maxing him at C2-ish provided an average 120 wishes for C0 Zibai
3000 def with PA Bina isn't close to as good as Ineffa for sustain
And even then, even after all of that, this team is *still* worse than Flins (with Columbina)
misanthropicirishman2026-01-09 01:59
Getting c6 of a 4 star can go VERY poorly lol
Ravenwolf222026-01-09 02:10
Flins doesnt require C6 4*s
MiniMages2026-01-09 02:18
After Columbina is released the meta party will be Flins, Ineffa, Columbina and Surcose. So the choise you are giving does not make sense.
rakanism12026-01-09 02:20
As I wrote above, you can think of Aino as Columbina, the one I can get in the rerun.
brewstercafe2026-01-09 02:19
Man I still wish that Illuga and Flins could have had synergy :((
Betterthan4chan2026-01-09 02:31
Zibai with bina is much better than flins without bina and ineffa.
Zibai also has higher personal dmg share, so investment into her should theoretically scale a bit harder, whereas flins requires you to spread out investment across all 3 main dmg dealers.
nolift99kg2026-01-09 02:48
Whichever characters you enjoy the most
AEsylumProductions2026-01-09 03:12
You're more likely to get a C0 Columbina and C0 Ineffa first before you get a C6 Illuga.
rakanism12026-01-09 03:13
I will get C6 Illuga during the Neuvilette C6R5 pull. This is why I think about Zibai
SecyaDenali2026-01-09 03:31
That is not a guarentee my friend still has C5 Faruzan.
AEsylumProductions2026-01-09 05:16
Ok, just know that saying you'll pull for C6R5 Neuvillette doesn't mean much when none of us know whether you currently already have a C5 neuv, a C0 Neuv or don't have one at all.
thwrlsgenshin2026-01-09 09:27
even if they don't have Neuvie there's still a chance they won't get any copy of Illuga.
AEsylumProductions2026-01-09 12:01
From C-1 to C6, yeah there's "a chance" to not get a single Illuga, but it's the same as saying there's a chance I could strike the Powerball lottery, which is next to impossible.
thwrlsgenshin2026-01-09 15:28
not only C1 to C6, with how the pulling system works you can spend hundreds or thousands pulls and still don't get the 4 star intended. Granted, the more you pull the more you increase your chances but there's no real guarantee you eventually get it. Hoyo really needs to improve this, with more 4 stars incoming it only gets worse.
rakanism12026-01-09 15:30
I have not Neuvilette. So ill pull him from zero
Monochromatic_Sun2026-01-09 03:24
I mean good geo is harder to come by. Flins has a lot of electro competition and when all the end content isn’t catering to lunar anymore he will be much closer to the rest of the roster.
OhNononYouDidnt2026-01-09 03:54
idk man i just slap Mavuika, Zhongli, Venti and Nahida for literally everything that is not a boss and call it a day.
Admirable-Food99422026-01-09 04:09
You can get Zibai, Bina and C6 illuga but can't get ineffa and Bina?
rakanism12026-01-09 04:12
Yeah i need to choose because cant risk it.
This is related to phase order
Admirable-Food99422026-01-09 04:13
No I'm asking, you can get 2 5 stars and a C6 4 star in phase 2 but only one 5 star in phase 1?
rakanism12026-01-09 04:16
My main goal is Neuvillette in phase 2. After Neu, I can easily spend wish on Zibai. But I can't risk that before Neuvillette.
Admirable-Food99422026-01-09 04:17
If you know you will get a 4 star C6 you have enough pulls you should be able to get all of the 5 stars.
rakanism12026-01-09 04:19
Yes, I'm going to pull C6R5 Neuvilette,
Before that ill try Columbina in phase1,
After Neu, ill pull Zibai.
Admirable-Food99422026-01-09 04:21
Ok, wait until near the end of phase 1 when we know how Zibai and illuga will be before deciding.
rakanism12026-01-09 04:22
Okay ^^
_ironhearted_2026-01-09 05:35
The first team is missing a sustain which personally I find irritating, but if i was content with gorou healing I would go with the first team because it uses a more niche reaction. You can still make a decent lunar charged comp only with Ineffa, but I don't think there's any viable Lunar Crystallise comp without Zibai. It's my personal preference though since I want to cover all reactions first and then get good teams wherever possible.
I think gorou should also feature with illuga so you should be able to get both c6s. You can also use Zhongli instead of gorou for comfort.
xAlpha22026-01-09 11:12
What content do you want to do?
All endgame content requires 2 teams (or more) so why choose? Also your comment on flins team implies you have that team already and you are just waiting on columbina rerun so what are we choosing? Who to pull? If so you just need to pull on Zibai banner for first team
InukoJon2026-01-10 18:58
I would go with bottom team solely bc we already know it’s good. I personally have no faith in lunar geo, and I call horse lady great value Flinns. You seem to be a meta chaser so this is my suggestion based on that. Even if i was a meta chaser, I would wait for pulling the horse lady til I see evidence beyond “was good in the Spiral Abyss designed with her in mind” before pulling her myself.
rakanism12026-01-10 19:35
I’m not chasing the meta. I’m going to pull C6R5 Neuvillette. In the process, my Illuga will most likely reach C6, and I’ll also obtain Zibai’s signature weapon. Given this, I thought I could also get Columbina in Phase 1 and build her premium team, because the circumstances are motivating me to do so.
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But honestly yes both are extremely good everybody is charlie sheen winning. Flins lowkey has the best aesthetics with Aino/Ineffa so fkn cute together.
"Inefwah" I cant handle that lmao
To answer your original question the power level of those two teams should be similar so I think you pull whoever you like better. Thats even assuming just a C2 illuga for calcs from what I recall. Anyway, good luck on your pulls!
3000 def with PA Bina isn't close to as good as Ineffa for sustain
And even then, even after all of that, this team is *still* worse than Flins (with Columbina)
Zibai also has higher personal dmg share, so investment into her should theoretically scale a bit harder, whereas flins requires you to spread out investment across all 3 main dmg dealers.
This is related to phase order
Before that ill try Columbina in phase1,
After Neu, ill pull Zibai.
I think gorou should also feature with illuga so you should be able to get both c6s. You can also use Zhongli instead of gorou for comfort.
All endgame content requires 2 teams (or more) so why choose? Also your comment on flins team implies you have that team already and you are just waiting on columbina rerun so what are we choosing? Who to pull? If so you just need to pull on Zibai banner for first team