Columbina early access review from Xlice.

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NoPalpitation28462026-01-09 07:33

Why delete that? commit to it

"Most versatile sub - DPS"

BUT you NEED Ineffa

AND Lauma!

AND she does almost nothing with out NK chars! BUT BUT She's SO versatile!

Like bro money good i get it, scared of losing early accses prev?

but bro

markcan_killua2026-01-09 07:42

i mean the same way durin ‘needs’ another hexrei character or xilonen with phec. wheelchair core is basically the same

Historical_Beach51952026-01-09 08:05

it is way more important,almost mandatory if you want to actually see her do some damage in lunar bloom or her wheelchair do damage in lunar charged, for columbina to have a premium 5 star than the 15% res shred loss for durin(there are great 4 star hexerei options) or xilonen not having some of the most popular elements, even 4 stars, on the team

Vegetto_ssj2026-01-09 09:55

But Durin has different hexrei characters (including 4*) and more are incoming, and he his hex buff isn't so impactful; Columbina needs Ineffa.

Mahinhinyero2026-01-09 18:32

and the Hexerei characters are more accessible (except Venti and Klee, the limited Hexerei currently). Mona and Fischl are good enough. and technically, old players surely have Venti.

nntnot2026-01-09 10:45

Yeah but the thing with durin is that you can use 4 stars with him, 4 stars that are already good on their own (plus a standard banner 5 star), and with xilonen phec is still very easily accessible with literally dozens of 4 stars and 5 stars that can use it, literally the same thing with kazuha and you don't see people complaining about it for a good reason, with columbina unless you have one of the 4 limited 5 stars, her "versatility" falls off a cliff

kazuyaminegishi2026-01-09 07:42

I assume versatile in this instance representing the amount of teams she enables.

Tho I am sure he explains in the video.

Jirul112026-01-09 08:47

80% of those teams have Ineffa 🤫 the other 19% has Lauma, and the 1% is the Skirk 4th slot team

CharlesEverettDekker2026-01-09 07:57

Yeah, so F2P friendly you need at least 2 other nod-krai limited 5 star characters (because 4 stars do jackshit on nod-krai)

Would rather hear honest truth like "Yes, she is very good when she is paired with other limited characters, but without them she is underperforming".

BakuGO20062026-01-09 08:05

1, why would you need more than ineffa, possibly Lauma in something like a nilou team but less versatile, or any of the dps units (although the supports take precedent)

Hell if you want to use her without other nod Krai units she’s a big buff to navia due to lunar crystalise just being a better

WildBrick1422026-01-09 09:14

That is why I refuse to watch any early access videos (besides the fact it's making the rich and successful even richer and more successful), they're always going to be biased so that the creator won't risk losing their privilege in the future.

Wish it was next week already so everyone could play her for themselves.

RamenPack12026-01-09 07:36

I’m pretty sure Ineffa is the most versatile sub dps in the game… because her only requirement is having a hydro on team.

For her role as the hydro for nod krai teams or wheelchair core with Ineffa/lauma, she will be quite good

SecyaDenali2026-01-09 07:42

.. I seen clears with Ineffa no hydro she's literally built different

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1m1FaZB4DA&pp=ygUPSW5lZmZhIG92ZXJsb2Fk

Used her with Golden Troupe...

IS_Mythix2026-01-09 09:13

Tbf ineffas not rlly doing any dmg there shes just applying electro and giving a shield

-memejuice-2026-01-09 09:26

she worked excellent in overload as a fischl replacement with a shield up until durin’s release

LumiRhino2026-01-09 09:41

Yeah I used Ineffa instead of Fischl for my Arle Dire Fatui Operative clear, since most of the clears I saw were with Fischl, but they also had to bother dodging attacks. Ineffa let me happily ignore that part while doing slightly less damage than Fischl on a regular no LC ToTM build.

Vegetto_ssj2026-01-09 09:32

FINALLY!
I thought Im was the only one in the earth to play GT Ineffa (tbh, I play it also on Lunar teams, because I like have big dmg both from Skill and Lunar EC thunders).
I don't know if with NK support set was better, but without Loadouts, Im stay with it until the new Set.

jxher1232026-01-09 08:04

My biggest regret was not pulling for her the first time lmfao. Now, I'm pretty screwed since I want both Columbina/Ineffa

BrownAJ2026-01-09 08:28

Yeah same

WarGodMarrs2026-01-09 08:29

I recently came back from a year+ hiatus and am in a similar place. I’ve been saving up wishes while I catch up on all the Natlan/ Nod Krai content. I’ve gotten to 100% complete in Natlan and only played Nod Krai’s AQ. Currently sitting at 173 wishes with no guarantee, and I’m not sure it’ll be enough 😅

Ke5_Jun2026-01-09 09:17

You’ll be able to get a good 60+ pulls in phase 1 next patch just from new content (there’s a new area coming out) so don’t lose hope. You should be able to get your count up to ~300 pulls before the banner ends if you haven’t explored Nod Krai yet, and ~250 if you already have.

Unless you lose the 50/50 twice at high pity (80+), you have a decently good chance to get both Ineffa and Columbina, but probably will have to skip out on their weapons.

WarGodMarrs2026-01-09 09:20

The weapons are the furthest thing from my mind, even though the whales are saying Columbina’s weapon is a game changer 😂
I’m well aware that I still have some content I can farm, and Lantern Rite is around the corner. I’m just preparing myself for the possibility of abysmal luck 😜
To make matters worse, this is a truly stacked patch, and I want to try for Zibai, as well

Ke5_Jun2026-01-09 09:35

Columbina’s weapon is only significant for main DPS. For support, Prototype Amber and Favonius are more than good enough and aren’t far behind. I do not suggest pulling for any weapons in the upcoming patch, as all 4 characters have good f2p alternatives.

Neuv shares the same weapon options as Columbina (Proto Amber), and Zibai on Harbinger of Dawn is better than a lot of 5-star options even (you do need a sustain though). Ineffa’s signature is the highest value of the 4 in terms of usefulness, but even then the R5 craftable Nod Krai polearm is good, and she won’t say no to older 5-star weapons like PJWS, Homa, Scarlet Sands, etc.

WarGodMarrs2026-01-09 09:42

I appreciate the feedback. Never been an optimal player by any means, but I wanna start farming to try and ‘fix’ my account to start trying to clear endgame content

Hojuma2026-01-09 08:31

I was planning on getting Ineffa but skipped her hoping the LC DPS would be more interesting. I like Flins' design, character, and animations, but his gameplay and teams are kinda inflexible.

Since I skipped Ineffa for Flins, but I also skipped Flins, I still have the original Ineffa funds. Plus I got funds for Columbina too. I really, really hope the 4stars on their banner aren't those I already have C6.

redherringbones2026-01-09 08:10

Oof I get that she's super useful but I just hate her design...

fuguelet2026-01-09 08:15

i did not like any part of her design when she first got revealed but honestly now i really like it. nothing changed but i just like it now for some reason

X3m9X2026-01-09 08:21

Its the NK aesthetics imo, in Natlan she felt so jarring cuz her design is super out of place but in NK her design blends in the best.

Zypharium2026-01-09 08:31

Exactly how I feel now about her. I think it has something to do with the Nod Krai story, it added so much depth to her and Aino. Before I felt her introduction in Natlan was shallow.

CanaKitty2026-01-09 08:39

Same. I didn’t like her at all initially but pulled her because I knew Flins would want her in the future. But since the start of Nod Krai I absolutely love her character and am so happy I got her.

Appropriate_Gate11292026-01-09 08:25

Yeah, but I really liked her story and character so I kinda force myself to not pay attention.

Adnae2026-01-09 08:28

Pulled C0R1 Ineffa back in Natlan... best investment ever made.
Her story was already very solid but the first nod krai chapters solidified her as a very interesting character

Weaponmaster4702026-01-09 08:49

They did not believe and now they will.

Yeah Day 1 Sovereigneffa chads stay winning. Lunar-zap Wheelchair go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

lostn2026-01-09 10:29

i believe. I just need to save for Lauma C1, Zibai, Bina, Varka, Nicole, Sandrone, and Alice if they release this year. Also C6 Shenhe if she reruns.

Something has to give. Unfortunately it's Ineffa.

TheBalladeer_2026-01-09 10:33

Alice won't come this year.

einUbermensch2026-01-09 13:51

I rolled for Ineffa because cute Robot Girl. The rest is a Bonus.

Powdz2026-01-09 10:15

Skipped her but somehow got her signature weapon in the inventory (must have rolled for the other weap). Story sold her very well, next patch will be the death of my wallet.

jajanbakso2026-01-09 10:30

Do you think R1 is a near-must (a.k.a very good value)?

I have the resources to pull for it, and since the weapon banner is good with Bina's. But I'm still hesitating whether it's worth it over the craftable.

P.S I don't have any NK chara

Varglord2026-01-09 10:38

She's fine without it, even more fine depending on what your other options are, but it's a great weapon to lose to if you're going for Bina's weapon.

jajanbakso2026-01-09 10:52

If I'm going to pull, Imma prioritize Ineffa's weapon over Bina

I'm interested in wheelchair team of Ineffa + Bina, so that I can play my older dpses

Is her R1 worth it in that wheelchair team?

Adnae2026-01-09 11:22

Yes, Ineffa R1 is the best investment over cons and Bina's R1 for the wheelchair

Adnae2026-01-09 11:21

Well if you want the lunarcharged ("Bineffa") wheelchair to work well, it’s better value for than columbina R1 actually. It’s a very valuable weapon since it is a direct lunar charge damage buff, it isn’t relaly diluted with other buffs.

maxitola20092026-01-09 17:13

>It’s a very valuable weapon since it is a direct lunar charge damage buff, it isn’t relaly diluted with other buffs.

This is not true, it gets diluted by the EM multiplier which is already pretty high on those teams.

IBlank72026-01-09 09:15

I have 229 pulls with 74 pity (tried my luck for an earlier Xilonen). Including the pulls from the patch itself, C0 columbina and C0 ineffa might be the move before choosing between Varka/Nicole/Sandrone depending on pulls/luck down the road.

LunarLoom212026-01-09 10:49

Ineffa was the secret goat. I grabbed her C0R1 purely cause of her story and aesthetic. Not to mention an electro shield that'll create storm clouds in my Raiden teams? Let's go! Then it turns out Ineffa is broken.

SecyaDenali2026-01-09 11:02

Got slated as a subdps, side grade Fischl, Nod Krai shill

Turns out shes just a main dps hidden in plain sight and works with so many different characters

Doing the same thing next patch shes my first 5 star in Genshin always have take special care of your first.

Btw I played my friends Raiden, Jean, Ineffa, Furina team way back when

CINEMA!

LunarLoom212026-01-09 11:07

Her shield alone was enough to make me roll my eyes at the sidegrade Fischl comments and what do you mean she creates storm clouds?! I could tell she would breathe new life into my Raiden teams. And then after doing the first Nod-Krai story, seeing all the interactions between Aino and Ineffa, I would have hated myself for skipping her because they're so adorable together.

SecyaDenali2026-01-09 11:15

They are so fn cute together i dont wanna seperate them ever!

Express-Bag-39352026-01-09 21:36

And people underrated her so much, probably given all the hype the newly revealed bod krai characters had.

But seriously, Ineffa is Next Gen Beidou Plus Pro Max.

And people slept hard on her sub dps. She is likely thr strongest sub dps in the game. And Columbina is the buffer to strongest sub dps in the game.

Ineffa is just so goated like that. Electro is like the third most versatile element and Ineffa's only requirement is to be in team with the most versatile and best element in the game.

Yeah, getting Ineffa on her first banner wad like investing in bitcoin before it boomed. This is like the most validated you can get in pulling for future impact. And boy does it work. Ineffa is the only 5 star C0 sustain for Lunar teams.

iamonlyslightlysalty2026-01-09 07:40

im wondering what his rationale for calling her versatlie is when a lot of her value is dependent on having lauma and/or ineffa - is he referring to the remaining two slots once you have bina + lauma/ineffa core going? i suppose that would make some sense since it's essentialy just a busted wheelchair core that you can slot anyone into.

babangelsin2026-01-09 07:40

Why would this guy's opinions even matter? This is just reiterating what we already know. What is "decent damage"?

D0naught2026-01-09 07:58

Is there some sort of drama with Xlice? Why the hate? Getting confirmation from multiple people are good for reference. You can use others’ opinions to gauge if the unit fits your metrics, specially if they have access to the creator server.

babangelsin2026-01-09 08:06

What hate? The guy has 0 substance to his claims and provides 0 tangible information. Someone random could repeat the exact same information, it wouldn't be "getting confirmation from multiple people", it would instead be "more people repeating the same thing so if the original info is incorrect there is nobody fact checking it"

kazuyaminegishi2026-01-09 08:12

Did you just miss "(video linked below)" if you wanna know his methodology and his testing why not investigate lol. Hes not hiding it.

babangelsin2026-01-09 08:34

What is there to investigate? Do you know what theorycrafting is and how it is done?

NoPalpitation28462026-01-09 07:42

Wait a SEC

Does he even have early accses?

Or is he JUST doin a reaction to early accses?

kira00r2026-01-09 08:49

He has early access, check his YouTube

SecyaDenali2026-01-09 07:45

Regurgitation Impact. I'm very dissapointed nobody has showcased Yae Miko yet with the pair. She will surprise alot of people

Clades_Candor2026-01-09 07:56

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SecyaDenali2026-01-09 08:00

Yeah all 3 work perfectly together, since Yae doesnt get punished for longer rotation.

Widisth + Night Sky (I cant remember the last time Yae had her best team and optimal rot for her kit) equals tons of damage.

For an on fielder she actually keeps pace with the other two perfectly balanced.

Enjoy!!!! easiest afk team too

E1lySym2026-01-09 12:41

Cyno should work really well too, no? He also has an EM > raw dmg gimmick going on?

Clades_Candor2026-01-09 12:51

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ThePoetessOfLesbos2026-01-09 16:37

NOOOO I JUST CRAFTED MIKO WITH AN ATTACK SANDS INSTEAD OF AN EM ONE WHYY

Clades_Candor2026-01-09 17:05

You still go crit>atk>em. She likes extra em more than most crit characters but u still prioritise raw damage.

mraz_syah2026-01-09 07:57

and hoyo was like, ok let's kaching columbina and ineffa in the same banner

OkCreme1012026-01-09 07:58

Kinda weird his take on Flins. Technically speaking Lauma/Ineffa/Columbina/Aino is the same distance from Nefer best team as it is from Flins best team.

I.e, literally both Flins and Nefer are easy to replace by Columbina herself.

Glyglyphy2026-01-09 08:17

Yeah I noticed how he singled out Flins when he's exactly in the same situation as Nefer

Temporary-Cold262026-01-09 08:31

No. Nefer does by a big margin the most damage on her team. On Flins' team, the damage is split between him and Ineffa.

Clades_Candor2026-01-09 08:42

Yeah the one unlucky thing about flins is how op ineffa is with or without him.

Lauma is also really good as a standalone character, but unlike ineffa, she only truly shines as a nefer support.

MeowjestyMeowgician2026-01-09 08:47

>she only shines with nefer

More like nefer only shies with lauma.

Clades_Candor2026-01-09 08:49

I mean i'd say they are both equally important in their team.

For any team outside nefer+lauma, you can replace lauma with nahida for identical results, can't do the same with ineffa.

MeowjestyMeowgician2026-01-09 08:54

Not only nefer's, dps Bina too. Tho ineffa is a bit more flexible than lauma imo.. electro is a bit more versatile than dendro

Clades_Candor2026-01-09 08:55

I don't think most people will play dps bina, she requires much more investment to be worth compared to nefer.

Needs sig and preferably c2 to feel good as main dps, whereas nefer just needs lauma+any hydro. I use her with instructor barbara w/ sac fragments and still works amazing lol.

MeowjestyMeowgician2026-01-09 09:00

Those who skipped nefer and pulled for lauma only, dps Bina is a ~~decent~~ cope option for lunar bloom imo...

Clades_Candor2026-01-09 09:01

Yeah but how does enabling a cope option for a team that originally does better and costs less increase lauma's value?

Lauma is great but unlike ineffa, u really need her intended main dps to get the most value off her.

Oriak222026-01-09 09:29

This isn't actually true

Any hyperbloom/bloom teams gain a huge increase from lauma, nahida becomes pretty replaceable (altough ideally you use them together) but lauma is drastically better than nahida for bloom teams.

hiccuphorrendous1232026-01-09 08:49

Please read the ops comment again .

If you remove nefer it's the same% drop as removing flins. The split is irrelevant because people have already taken that into account and calculated it.

Laumas quills are as much as important as ineffa sub dps. There is no need for every dps to be hypercarry. Why do you guys always want the same boring teams

Royal_empress_azu2026-01-09 09:19

The drop isn't the same.

Pre release calcs assumed you keep hydro aura so Ineffa could make up the difference. Iwtl has shown that Lauma alone is enough to overtake hydro aura from double hydro. So Ineffa does much less damage with dps Columbina than original assumed.

R1 Columbina was 11 seconds off not clearing her fearless shill boss for example.

hiccuphorrendous1232026-01-09 10:21

Ok so the dps in nefer and flins are both actually quite good and necessary for their respective teams.

Seems fair to me. There was no need for the comment from xlice then. Not like it influences me. But he is a streamer after all

dennisleonardo2026-01-09 11:26

So let's say you're looking at LC premium and LB premium. Meaning flins, ineffa, bina, sucrose and nefer, lauma, bina, nahida. Ignoring the fact that LC team has almost the same team dps as LB team, while having sustain and only 3 cost compared to LB no sustain and 4 cost.

Removing nefer turns this team into a bina carry team. You wouldn't replace nefer with fucking alhaitham or nahida or whoever, you'd play bina on field and slot in another hydro or, or jahoda. If you keep the same cost, you'd replace nefer with ineffa, actually. So no, the dps loss from dropping nefer isn't that high. You're likely assuming we're dropping nefer for a bum ass weak on field dendro from sumeru. But that's not what you'd do.

Lunar charged premium dropping flins is a very similar dps loss. You'd replace him with lauma or fischl and once again run bina on field.

You're assuming flins is being replaced by a good unit, but nefer isn't. Both flins premium and nefer premium without the respective carry turn into bina on field teams with very similar performance. So fuck no, dropping nefer isn't a bigger dps loss than dropping flins.

Krobus_TS2026-01-09 08:34

No? On lunar charge teams Ineffa is a subdps that contributes just as much damage as Flins. Whereas Lunar bloom is almost entirely Nefer as a hypercarry. Lauma is a pure support with negligible damage

hiccuphorrendous1232026-01-09 08:44

The point is the effect of removing nefer and flins from their respective team is same. It is a considerable dps loss.

The % split is irrelevant cause if you remove ineffa/lauma or flins/nefer the drop is the same.

Where flins doesn't do hypercarry damage he makes up with his buffs. Nefer is hypercarry. There is no need to point out this as a negative or we would have boring teams with all being hypercarry. The dps in the end is same and their cons gain is also same

We've had dual dps since the childe xiangling international days and people still get hung up on this ffs. It's been 5 years

People are just brain rotted with Twitter agenda memes.

Gold-Charge-3382026-01-09 08:46

not really, a lot of nefer's lunar bloom dmg comes from lauma's burst( at lvl 10 it increases lunar bloom dmg by 500% of her em)

Jesuis_Luis2026-01-09 09:27

yeah we all know that which is why lauma is nefer’s best sup. what was the point here?

Wallbalertados2026-01-09 16:27

Idk why people are doing this acting like flins is getting wheelchaired when the 2nd best option overhim in his best team is 30% team dps loss

Glyglyphy2026-01-09 16:54

The answer is easy: mostly agenda posting. Some waifu only accounts are reluctant to pull male characters (which is fine, they're free). But to justify it to themselves they have to diminish the value or the general perception of those characters they don't want to pull in the meta. They did it with Kazuha vs Sucrose in 1.6, Nahida vs Alhaitham, Childe in national vs Xiangling, Neuvi vs Mualani, and now Flins. Every single one of them ended up at the top of the meta even for a little while. For them, God forbid a male character is top of the meta even for a couple patches before the next powercreep. So they invent shit, like "wheelchair". Happens in all Gachas. Anaxa vs The Herta was quite funny in HSR as well.

TinaWoodssssss2026-01-09 08:02

I have Lauma, but I'm not sure what the other two teammates are: One Hydro + One Electro?

SecyaDenali2026-01-09 08:06

Bina MDPS to utilize quills, Lauma, Ineffa for sustain, Hbloom plus buff LC + EM, Aino for hydro resonance plus EM C1 (or 35% L Bonus at C6).

Thats her best performing team as the main damade dealer. F2P weapon is Widisth and set is Night Sky

If no Ineffa, Kuki + Sucrose if want more hydro its Aino

AuraEx982026-01-09 08:09

I'm saving my guarantee for Ineffa; Columbina is good but I can skip for now. My Flins would need Ineffa more than he would need Columbina + Neuvillette right after so someone has to be sacrificed and in this case it's Columbina and Zibai. I'll try to pick up Columbina on her rerun (which I expect to be soon since she's the "archon" of Nod Krai).

kuluk22026-01-09 08:18

Trash outside lunar teams, from meta perspective. Versatile ≠ strong

saberjun2026-01-09 09:42

Versatile is never a decisive asset to begin with. A strong but niche character is 10 times better than a mid but versatile character. Of course strong and versatile character is the best like Xilonen,Furina. But if we have to choose from the former two,then the choice goes to strong but niche.

bringbackcayde72026-01-09 08:18

She is the most not versatile and f2p unfriendly region leader in this game. Maybe she is not an Archon and that's why Mihoyo is not making her like one.

forestplunger2026-01-09 08:31

Sandrone coming in with the steel chair

hoyoshill2026-01-09 09:07

She will be dps though

astasli2026-01-09 09:23

>f2p unfriendly

please elaborate on that.

Her ER needs are quite achievable without negatively hurting her damage, her sig is comparable in Team damage to pamber and fav depending on your lineup, and while her cons are all good she's perfectly complete at c0.

Editing to add: and if this is about “needing another nod krai unit to shine the best”, assuming you got **one** of the 4 lunar reaction 5-stars that have been released from 5.8 - now is not a “f2p unfriendly” concept.

Limp_Yogurtcloset3062026-01-09 09:49

"to shine the best" lmfao.

I guess you only need oxygen "to stay on top of your game" too?

laxounet2026-01-09 11:12

Requiring one of 4 five star characters to function is worse than most characters. Furina just needed any healer. Mavuika works with 4 star characters or just by herself as a sub dps.

Durin at least works with 4 star characters.

The only character that is potentially on the same level as Columbina is Skirk, because she needs Escoffier.

Zypharium2026-01-09 08:29

I only have Lauma and want both Columbina and Ineffa, but I need to win the 50/50 two times. This will be so difficult to achieve. I am mentally preparing myself of only getting Columbina. 🥲 I loathe the scummy and predatory 50/50. Every new character is reliant on other premium characters as there are no real alternatives. Look at Escoffier for Skirk and Ayaka.

broccoli-lab2026-01-09 08:43

> most versatile sup-dps in the game

While needing another nod krai character in the team and being an upgrade for literally 3 DPSs, Flins, Nefer and Zibai. While being meh to a sidegrade at best in every other team, she is an upgrade to geo teams in general tho i'll give her that.

I wouldn't call her versatile tho, the most versatile sup-dpss in the game are by far Ineffa and Durin, Furina too ig.

Raahka2026-01-09 10:06

Columbina + Ineffa is strong enough core to be BiS slot for probably 90% of dps, much more than Furina or Durin are.

morrow_worrow2026-01-09 10:36

inneffa is the most versatile then

Raahka2026-01-09 10:52

Ineffa alone is not BiS with anywhere close to 90% of the dps. You need both to get into that level.

laxounet2026-01-09 10:43

Columbina + Ineffa are a versatile wheelchair core, sure, but Columbina by herself isn't versatile at all since she needs Ineffa

Raahka2026-01-09 10:54

Columbina has teams that don't use Ineffa too. And anyway you don't play the game as only 1 character.

Vanthraa2026-01-09 10:51

They're only BIS because of how much damage they do tho, not because they buff 90% of the cast in any meaningful way.

DirectChrysophenineG2026-01-09 08:43

Genshin "sub-dps" Impact

Arakan282026-01-09 08:43

Oh, Ineffa and Lauma the most valuable NK characters so far

Color me surprised

RadRelCaroman2026-01-09 08:44

TLDR: amazing but only as long as you have ineffa or lauma to go with

pronounclown2026-01-09 09:01

Ok with ineffa, amazing with ineffa + Lauma.

Ain't no way I'm gonna get 3 5 stars for this shill ass content. Nodkrai has been the worst time in genshin imo.

Let's hope the next major patch has something worth pulling for.

HiRedditOmg2026-01-09 09:19

She’s actually amazing with just Ineffa. You can literally put every combination of Hydro/Electro on fielder + Columbina and Ineffa + Sucrose to get a 100k dps team.

If you have an old character you really like you can make them work with Columbina and Ineffa. They are the ultimate wheelchair.

Heck, I’ve even seen things like Mavuika, Xilonen, Columbina, Ineffa. As long as you don’t mess with the LC reaction those two can go with everyone.

Laraelias2026-01-09 08:51

As someone that is not going to pull Ineffa it feels like I'm kneecapping myself without her lunar/electro combo, damn. Still pulling for Columbina regardless, but that's a bit unfortunate.. Ineffa is a good character, just not a fan of her design.

kokko6932026-01-09 09:56

Isn't ineffa banner alongside Bina?

I have 180 pulls, I'm considering getting Bina + Ineffa instead of getting Bina C1 or C2

If you are not pulling Ineffa BC you don't like her design, it's understandable, but then you are not a meta player, you shouldn't bother with that. Just play the characters you like.

Laraelias2026-01-09 10:16

She is, yes. If you like Ineffa then her power can't be understated. The new wheelchair of Columbina+Ineffa is wildly powerful. Since it's a new patch you should be able to pump up those pulls. Glgl if you go for both!

I'm a returning playing that left after 4.3 so I'm just eyeing all these reruns is the problem lol. So many cool ones might be coming up.

kokko6932026-01-09 10:20

>I'm a returning playing that left after 4.3 so I'm just eyeing all these reruns is the problem lol. So many cool ones might be coming up.

You are right

I wasn't playing when Escoffier was released and missed one of the best support lol

The problem with reruns is when there is too many good new characters. Also you just don't know when they happen, you can just pray it's not too long...

Fit-Application-12026-01-09 09:13

Eyyy hoping my Columbina pulls go well so i can grab ineffa as well.

Didn’t like her design much when she first released but her presence in the AQs have changed my mind, I like her character a lot more 😅

Koekelbag2026-01-09 09:19

Can I get a tl:dr on why Ineffa would be a must-get for Lunar Charged, to the point that Flins is instead the flex option?

I'm currently running a pretty comfortable team of Kokomi - Varesa - Flins - Aino where Varesa and Flins are covering for the other's downtime and energy regen, and it's working out alright enough for me.

Looking at Ineffa's kit, I'm already good on sustain through Kokomi (also helps deal with any healing checks that a shield can't clear) while Varesa does good enough damage already that I'm not sure how much better Ineffa would do through her off field attacks.

I do know that Ineffa's signature greatly boosts all LC damage, so I can understand why she would be desired for it on top of what she already does, but does the same hold true if you're only planning to use her at C0R0?

Smanro2026-01-09 09:25

So glad I didn't let the Emilie situation discourage me from pulling for Ineffa Back than

gomugomupirate2026-01-09 11:43

Context? What's Emilie situation?

eyeofnero2026-01-09 12:00

No one wants her outside of Kinich, and Kinich doesn’t even need her

Wallbalertados2026-01-09 16:22

Lowkey pulling for C1 kinich will be about equal or bigger increase than getting her in a durin bennett iansan team despite kinich not even getting cinder city buff

thisiskyle772026-01-09 12:30

Emilie is nowhere near as good as Ineffa. She is pretty skipable.

chairmanxyz2026-01-09 14:47

That’s exactly what they’re saying. The “situation” is that she ended up being bait before Natlan and people were worried ineffa would be the same. Funny thing is, it’s not like final version characters have a history of being bad. I mean thats when Yelan first dropped.

Wallbalertados2026-01-09 16:21

Yeah true 1.6 was kazuha which was meta defying for long time
Then 2.8 we got yelan which was very strong unit and stayed that way for long time
3.8 was the only exception with emilie

HerrscherOfMagic2026-01-09 19:10

To be fair Emilie does have a niche nonetheless. I can see why she'd be labelled bait but I pulled for her and didn't really regret it, given how useful she is whenever the burning mechanic is required

Express-Bag-39352026-01-09 21:47

Same, plus noticing she does more than Emilie, I knew she would be high value.

Shame Emilie doesn't have sustain or some buff/debuff. Imagine Emilie gave dendro and pyro res shred or increased pyro and dendro dmg bonus?

Ineffa is just the bitcoin investment of genshin. Ineffa value skyrocketed like she did to lift the giant kuuvahki cannon.

Icy_Slice_90882026-01-09 09:33

Ah yes, my favorite type of gameplay: EQ swap

Riveting

Sufficient-Habit6642026-01-09 10:35

I don't think a Genshin support will ever have exciting gameplay.

EQ swap, *maybe* 1-2 normal attacks.

This aino wuwa where quick swapping is part of the gameplay intent

Yeechimonji2026-01-09 12:16

Quickswapping is dead, all new teams is 3-2-1. All roads lead down to the same place

alvenestthol2026-01-09 12:45

*2* new teams have been 3-2-1 (I'm counting all the Phrolova variants and Augusta variants as 1 team each), Lupa and Cartethyia both have quickswap tech, and even Lynae wants to sneak in for a Skill at some point before she does her proper thing

StelioZz2026-01-09 19:15

Why would lynae want to sneak in a skill? She can max her forte and buffs in a single combo.

Intro+1 skill can max first bar

Hold ha can max 2nd

3 jumps can max last

alvenestthol2026-01-09 19:29

You can cancel another character's move into her skill, and then switch back/move on

Or you can proc Lynae's intro off of the DPS, switch to the other support who doesn't need their Outro (e.g. Ciaccona outside of Cartethyia), and then come back to Lynae

osgili4th2026-01-09 12:42

If the swapping was handled client side and not server side they could do it, but with ping affecting swapping creating characters or teams that want that will make it feel and perform terrible for big chunk of player.

OberonFirst2026-01-09 14:41

Not even quickswapping, the fact that support outro often gives the buffs means that they can make the rotations whatever they want because the goal is to build a concerto and then switch

Admirable_Register892026-01-09 15:05

>Ah yes, my favorite type of gameplay: EQ swap

Could never be my goat natlan. What do yall know about 6 shot kinich. Mavuika CD combo. Chasca select pech.

Iskaru2026-01-09 09:41

This is a weird situation for me... I really like Columbina, but I also don't like *any* of the characters she's "mutually reliant" on. I can't decide if I should skip her entirely or go for her and just try to do some scuffed non-meta teams. She will literally be the first time I get to trigger a Lunar Reaction outside of trial characters...

geigerz2026-01-09 10:20

if you don't have NK her teams will be "normal", which for NK standards will be weak as fuck

but she enables lunar reactions on everyone, which doesn't say much cause the damage will suck

so yes I also got disappointed when I saw she would just shill nk units when I don't have a single one of them due to sheer spite of this awfully predatory mechanic

Lubinski642026-01-09 10:56

Same. I will pull for her anyway but I'd rather save for Varka than pull Ineffa, if she underperforms then whatever, I guess I'm gonna keep using Arle or Skirk for the rest of Nod Krai

laxounet2026-01-09 11:08

I'm in the same boat. I decided I'm skipping her. I will potentially get her during her rerun IF Sandrone is also a lunar character that pairs well with her.

If the usual release pattern is anything to go by, Sandrone (if she ends up being playable), should release around the same time as the Columbina rerun.

PH_0072026-01-09 11:12

I skipped the others since none interested me as much as Bina and now I have to skip Bina because she's just a brick without them. Amazing.

Thanks for the generous Varka savings Mihoyo.

saviourQQ2026-01-09 12:20

Maybe Sandrone will work with her. Archons rerun again during their year so she’ll probably be back before end of NK.

osgili4th2026-01-09 12:45

Unless you really like her a ton and don't care about the end game, pulling only for her as a Nod Krai character is not advice. You probably won't use her at all since outside of Laura or Ineffa teams she will feel really really weak.

Hour_Negotiation_5972026-01-09 13:26

Yeah, I'll just put her to the team I want. It won't be optimal but idc, I want Columbina.

nakorurukami2026-01-09 14:30

Same. I'm hoping Sandrone pairs well with her because that's who I'm getting as well.

zetaroid2026-01-09 15:39

Same boat. At the beginning of Nod Krai I was you going for c2r1 Columbina, but because I skipped all the character she works with I’ll now be doing just c0. I’ll save my 500+ pulls for another day.

SexWithFeiXiaos2026-01-09 16:42

Honestly, She is kinda mid without a Nod-Krai character.

If U have Lauma / Ineffa, pull her she will be So good. If not just skip her, Not pulling without either of them is like skrik & Escoffier (Unless u want to play a scuffed Illuga team)

Express-Bag-39352026-01-09 22:22

You could at least play her with geo characters and it will be somewhat of an upgrade, but do recommend you run another moonsign character with her, for additional lunar reaction dmg bonus and for enhancing Columbina AoE and even enabling the artifact sets like Silken Moon Serenade or the Auvade of Morningstar set.

Even if I didn't have any 5 star Nod krai characters, I'd pull for Columbina simply to enjoy geo teams again with probably one of the most fun and interactivr reactions of Lunar crystallize. Microwave teams could become seriously real and being able to run 2 Tamoto Chiori with Navia or Noelle is really nice.

AliceRose0002026-01-09 09:50

'Most versatile' Looks inside, Needs Nod Krai units.

Yup, that's what versatile means. Some people just say things without know what that means.

ValeLemnear2026-01-09 11:13

So versatile you can run flins, ineffa or lauma and any combination of the three Nod Krai units /s

PH_0072026-01-09 11:18

It's a ~~bought review~~ early access content creator server review, what did you expect?

Argordeus2026-01-10 00:43

She is played as solo nod-krai in Navia, Itto and other Geo teams. Pretty big buff there, and did you see the Noelle? She is crazy with 0 ICD lunar-crystalize

Vegetto_ssj2026-01-09 09:51

>most versatile sup-dps in the game

But only with Ineffa!

geigerz2026-01-09 10:08

she's so versatile bro she just needs recent 5* with lunar reactions (like every 5* with lunar reactions so far) but trust she's very versatile

with bundled characters and now region restrictions and even buff restrictions, what is genshin becoming? I'm tired of this tbh

it's not like they NEED Kore money so are they being extra predatory just to squeeze more millions on top of the millions they already make?

I guess funding varsapura or whatever new game is not cheap eh?

Letwen2026-01-09 10:19

Seeing meta talk on main sub is like watching baby's first steps

nntnot2026-01-09 10:49

When the meta talk surrounding a beloved character is so bad it seeps it's ways into the main sub

miogacu2026-01-09 10:33

No way Hoyo locked Columbina being good behind having three other characters in a team.

Gakamis2026-01-09 10:35

Wack. I don't have any of the nodkrais characters currently (and no plans to pull them) so this is just bruh. EQ being called gameplay is hilarious.
I will just get her for the waifubait and the her ultimate but otherwise :/

DUELfighter20002026-01-09 10:37

Most versatile and f2p are not something I'd personally consider for the Nod Krai roster. All the characters are anything but f2p and she's only an upgrade to the Nod Krai roster.

Not trying to badmouth columbina but I think this review just needs some better wording

MiltenQ2026-01-09 11:23

ineffa+columbina without flins but a different dps a drop is from 150k dps to around 120k dps.

lauma+columbina without nefer but a different character is also around 120k dps.

its so weird how all those tcs have to downplay flins just because they dont like male characters.

No-Tonight31322026-01-09 11:39

honestly the " wheelchair " type of " versatility " isn't fun imo because you are just playing your favorite on-fielder in a team that doesn't even support it and the priority of the team is the off-fielder's dmg

I think a universal support core with good off-field would be nicer .. but i think they are just afraid of buffing the strong non-nod krai characters probably

newplayer1352026-01-09 15:05

Yeah, modern meta wants you to shut your brain off, and play Childe/Inefa/Columbina and then call it a Childe team.

I want to play my main character, not play a team that has my main character on it as a 4th slot placeholder for some overtuned wheelchair core, who would much rather just have the actual DPS (in this case Flins) instead which it was designed for and has actual synergy with

It's not just about damage output too. XY/Citlali/Bennett is technically the best team for any old melee DPS, but at the cost of completely reducing a character's kit down to their plunge multipliers. It's just not interesting. New supports are designed for new DPS, and they rarely (like Xilonen) buff old units in a manner that preserves the old characters' identities.

parrotandpeacock2026-01-09 11:39

Why are people on main sub so miserable when it comes to meta talk

karillith2026-01-09 12:39

I listened the "valuable meta opinion" exactly once when Kokomi released and that's a mistake I won't ever commit again.

erdem-oe2026-01-09 14:00

What was it? I was around but i only remember the crit memes.

KageYume2026-01-09 14:38

She was doomposted a lot because of that crit meme along side Raiden. And then people discovered that her jelly fish had AoE, no-ICD Hydro application, which was ideal for the then-meta DPS (Ayaka).

What happened during the beta doesn't count because she was doomposted after release too.

Kgumaster2026-01-09 13:24

Theyre always miserable. Actually, that's just reddit in general

VaioletteWestover2026-01-09 17:18

They secretly lust for rampant powercreep (but only when it's their favourite character). This exact same talk happened with Clorinde.

This entire thread showcases why developers NEED to ignore players often, because we are always short sighted and selfish.

HuTaosTwinTails2026-01-09 11:52

"most versatile sub-dps in the game"

Proceeds to list how she basically requires 3 other characters lol

CompetitiveStreak2026-01-09 16:17

Getting C1R1 Ineffa was my best decision during Natlan

Relative-Prompt11012026-01-09 23:03

HOT TAKE : INEFFA IS ACTUALLY THE MOST BROKEN CHARACTER IN GAME / I DONT HAVE HER ON MY 2ND ACCOUNT AND IF GOT LUCKY WITH COLUMBINA I AM DEFINITELY GETTING INEFFA

Khrysor2026-01-10 07:10

How is she the most versatile sub dps in the game? It litteraly tells you she only works with lunar reactions. You can put durin in any pyro reaction team and you're good. Try putting columbina to any team without a lunar character then you're toast.