As a returning player, what’s the deal with Columbina?
hi! for context, im a returning f2p player who last rolled for furina when she first came out. i usually don’t care for metas and roll for characters i like personality/design wise. i never regretted getting any character i have, so that will never be an issue for me! onto the actual ask.
i wanna roll for columbina, however, i know nothing of lunar reactions & don’t have any characters from that region. people online say she’s not worth unless you have other units, but then i see other’s claiming the opposite. ultimately i’m very confused on everything and wanna know as much as i can about her teams, her kit, and her place within these new reactions!
i wanna roll for columbina, however, i know nothing of lunar reactions & don’t have any characters from that region. people online say she’s not worth unless you have other units, but then i see other’s claiming the opposite. ultimately i’m very confused on everything and wanna know as much as i can about her teams, her kit, and her place within these new reactions!
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The only exception is she can slot into a skirk team as a TTDS holder with some off-field damage but she is wasted in this role. It is a possibility though.
That's basically it for Lunar reactions. Luna bloom is just fancier bloom, can also be utilized by specific nod krai characters.
You can get a free Aino, who's from that region, or a 4 star Jahoda if you get her while pulling for Columbina.
Yes she's better with the Nod-Krai cast but she's definetely a good pull for anyone just because of the update she enables in others kits.
You can even go look at Lauma kit for reference. Almost 99% of her kit focuses on buffing the normal bloom dmg, her skill is the only thing that is doing Luner dmg there. And the Luner buff pretty much only works for Nefer, no other character will make use of that buff.
If we are talking about Luner-Charge/Crystalize, then they are pretty much not better than what any character currently have, or even that good in the first place.
And if we are talking about Luner-bloom, then Lauma is already a better support for that and she doesn't even buff it in the first place ( in None Nefer teams ).
OP here isn't talking about metaslaving either, read the post. OP just saw people being the exaggerated pricks they usually are saying that she's absolutely trash and unusable without Nod-Krai characters and got confused.
Just thinking that I can play Columbina with Chiori and that will make Chiori always have her second doll on field even though I don't have her constellation, it's already more than enough reason for me to pull. Even if the second doll and geo turrets does no damage.
She's also still a good hydro character regardless of lunar reactions, and as someone that don't particularly care about any of the other hydro characters besides Mona and Nilou, I'm quite interested in having a third hydro unit.
2- The reaction itself can count as just an extended portion of Columbina sub DPS, and not something that can change anything in the team. Since you literally can't trigger it with any other character, it's basically just Columbina own dmg but with extra steps.
And considering the fact that you have to sacrifice a second slot just to make Columbina deal more dmg ( Ascendant gleam , which would basically be either Illuga or Ineffa ), your Geo character now deals even worse dmg just because you wanted to focus on the the Sub DPS instead of your main DPS, and in case you didn't use another Luner character, her dmg ( the only thing she is providing for the team ) would basically be at it worst state.
3- I am pretty sure Chiori mains would prefer to go for her constellations so they can get the extra doll regardless of the team she is in instead of just going for a completely separate character, especially if they didn't have any Luner character in the first place that they can use Columbina with .
Also her role as a hydro sub DPS for other none Luner teams is pretty much worse than all our current choices.... except Aino.
If a lot of hydro applications is what you want ( bloom teams ), then Xingqiu is still the best choice for that and his C6 makes him a good sub DPS ( C2 Niluo too ). Columbina Hydro applications are slow she won't work well for those teams.
If just enough hydro applications with extra benefits is what you want ( Vape/Freeze/Electro-charge) then both Furina and Yelan are still better because you get team buffs on top of their good sub DPS.
In other words, unless you want to wheelchair your Geo/Electro/Dendro DPS by using Columbina instead of just their best teams that focuses on buffing them themselves, Columbina won't improve your account if you don't already have a Luner DPS/Sub DPS.
Anyone can pull for any character that they want, and that's fair. But if they are not interested in the first place, then you will only regret having those characters at the end.
The actual broken characters are Ineffa and Lauma, Columbina is really strong because she buffs those 2 specifically.
So what makes her as good as Lauma?
Which makes me think Hoyo planned very far ahead with these scaling numbers.
I also changed my stance on her, but moreso due to the story she had so far and that I finally figured out what type of Characters to go for now.
If anything, it seems like HoYo knows they made a mistake releasing Ineffa as overtuned as she was, because she's consistently performed so well after the release of Nod Krai that Flins was hit by many small nerfs to try and offset Ineffa dealing so much damage on her own, and Columbina, despite honestly being kinda underpowered in her niche (feels weird to say that considering how strong Lunar teams are with her) specifically had to have her Lunar-Charged bonuses reworked because she buffed Ineffa far more than she buffed Flins *in Flins' own team*, and Ineffa is *still* the biggest winner of Columbina's release.
And while Muvika needs a specific other character to activate that mechanic ( Natlan characters ), Ineffa just wants a hydro applier with her and she would be good to go.
She buffs any geo dps by giving them a damaging reaction instead of the shield. She enables you to do lunar reactions by herself which aside from the hardest of endgame modes will be enough for the NK shill stuff. If u like her design/personality shes looking to be a fun support / sub-dps that enables a lot of different teams.
The way lunar crystallize works on the early access server unironically looks like it's an unintended bug.
I wouldn't be surprised if LC on release ended up with an ICD like normal crystalize or lunarcharged.
It might still end up being a buff because normal crystallize is just that bad, but it might not the hilarious numbers everywhere buff that it is on the test server.
Shes not another Furina with solid off field damage or buffing outside of the Lunar reactions (not really a problem since She provides It herself), but more of a support only
But, shes not the strongest for supporting only a certain type of team, Lunar-Bloom has Lauma, Lunar-charged has Ineffa and Lunar-crystalize has Illuga (kinda), and some of this supports are even in lot of others teams, with Lauma in a lot of dendro Bloom and Friends type of teams, with Ineffa on almost every team thanks to her damage and shield
People talks about 2 Nod Krai unit in team (which One Is given for free in the story) Is because of some part of her kit (only a small part tbh)locked behind It, its not a big deal for her, for others Is something huge
So:
Should you pull her? Yes, shes strong and enable Lunar reactions by herself, She got a lot of f2p options as weapons and teams and can be used as a small (relatively) dendro dps, for endgame content such as Stygian Onsalught She Will be shilled in a lot of bosses
Do you Will regret her post Nod Krai? We dont know, but id Say not that much, First because she and Ineffa alongside Who you want are and insane combo, and mostly because of enbaling certain reactions that can be Given more characters in the future
From the perspective of someone who lacks ANY hydro limiteds, Columbina will be an upgrade to their account regardless of whether she is the only NK.
She provides off field hydro application that:
-Doesn’t require joint attacks to work like Xingqiu/Yelan
-Doesn’t drain your HP like Furina (this means that she is better than her in transformative reaction teams like hyperbloom where Furina’s buff does nothing)
-Actually does some damage (unlike Aino who would be just dead weight on your team if not for the fact that she gives a Moonsign)
If you went back to 2022 and showed Columbina to people, they’d fall over themselves trying to get her just for being a Xingqiu/Yelan alternative that works with Ganyu/Tighnari. Ofc meta has changed a lot since then, but hydro application remains important and Columbina provides exactly that without being completely dead weight (Aino…) or coming with a drawback in transformative teams (we finally have a better Furina for bloom for example).
Now is solo Columbina going to skyrocket your account to OP levels? No. But that doesn’t mean she isn’t worth pulling.
Looking at the limited character immediately preceding Columbina, **Durin**, we can already see a character whose worth is not in meta breaking levels of DPS, but in his splashability in so many teams. He improves some teams that were already not so strong (Columbina will do this too with Geo teams), but didn’t raise the DPS ceiling (Mavuika doesn’t get any improvement from Durin).
Now Columbina will be increasing the DPS ceiling because she is made for the already current top meta characters (Flins, Nefer, Zibai); but on her own she acts very much like Durin in the fact that she is a flexible character that is useful in situations where you may not want to use the other hydro limiteds for (particularly Furina which is her biggest competitor and gets the most comparisons with).
Doesnt really matter when off the top of my head Nefer is the only one that really doesnt NA that wants Hydro app on their team, theirs CA bow chars but you can just use Furina for those chars
> Doesn’t drain your HP like Furina (this means that she is better than her in transformative reaction teams like hyperbloom where Furina’s buff does nothing)
Teams these days dont focus soley on pure transformative anymore, if we say take an Alhaitham team for example where her hydro worsens Blooms Gen cuz its not as fast and doesnt give Haitham any buffs, maybe in a Double hydro Hyperbloom setting but Lauma is always a better slot in and 2 NK would significantly worse the HB damage in favour of Lunar Bloom damage and thats a seperate discussion than Bina solo NK
> Actually does some damage (unlike Aino who would be just dead weight on your team if not for the fact that she gives a Moonsign)
This matters but again the place where Aino is used is for those NK carries, every other team has better hydro options
> If you went back to 2022 and showed Columbina to people, they’d fall over themselves trying to get her just for being a Xingqiu/Yelan alternative that works with Ganyu/Tighnari. Ofc meta has changed a lot since then, but hydro application remains important and Columbina provides exactly that without being completely dead weight (Aino…) or coming with a drawback in transformative teams (we finally have a better Furina for bloom for example).
But it isnt 2022 anymore so this point is kinda moot, Bloom doesnt need more hydro apps when they have Nilou and not too mention Kokomi provides the same rate of app while being a healer, albeit I dont think her AoE is as big and its not mobile
All in all while I agree that if you lack chars pulling her is good (New accounts should pull chars, getting chars is good) that doesnt imo atleast paint her solo abilities in a very good light where hey she's good as long as you dont have the other options
All your points just emphasize that she isn’t the **best**, but it doesn’t disprove the fact that she isn’t useful.
All endgame modes require multiple teams; you can’t use Furina in all of them. This is the same thing people said about Xingqiu vs Yelan (people just used both), Bennett vs Iansan (people just use both).
Only meta players care for such things.
Columbina at its core is a niche lunar buffer who has no value if you dont have other lunar characters to pair with. Even then lunar will be shilled throughout 6.X so if you are able to clear content/satisfied could just hold off. Also if there are incase no other lunar DPSs or teammates after 6.3, columbina is mostly bricked to the current teams as her buffs are too niche to matter in a general team like Skirk/Mavuika etc.
For any endgame content that gives Primogems, Columbina as the only Nod-Krai 5 star is enough to easily handle content made to shill the new reactions. She has value as a universal enabler of Lunar reactions, so if you like her you will definitely find a use for her. Overall she will be a good character, not amazing.
If you want to invest more in Nod-Krai teams you can get Ineffa/Lauma too since they have great synergy with her.