Question for whales: did you try to save money by bying primos with Ukrainian currency? How did you do it?

I recently discovered price for primogems in UAH (Ukrainian Hryvna) are extremely low. Almost half the price type of low. This is way cheaper than JPY price, which, as i seen, many use.

In case you are wondering, if you pay in UAH, the 100 dollar pack costs 58 bucks, and 15 dollar pack costs a little over 9 dollars.

Now, i actually am from Ukraine, and i assumed many poorer countries have pretty low prices, but apparently i was wrong, the next cheapest, which is Japan, isnt even close.

I've had a discussion with one person on a possibility of topping up with those sweet rates, we tried many possibilities, but only working thing seems to just have a regional UAH bank account in Ukraine (you cant create it if you arent a citizen).

So the only viable solution we found for this is to have someone from UA to log into someone's account and spend their money that they send through paypal (to avoid SWIFT fees on Visa transactions).

Yes, im pretty sure this is against every TOS involved. But so is topping up with JPY when you arent in Japan, so its not really that different.

So, have anyone ever topped up successfuly with UAH prices, despite being in another country? What method did you use?

Commentaires

PostHasBeenWatched2026-01-11 15:29

For which website those calculations made for?

tyjz73_2026-01-11 15:29

For the in-game shop prices

PostHasBeenWatched2026-01-11 15:31

Will check later

PostHasBeenWatched2026-01-11 23:00

u/PEAceDeath1425 just checked

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There was calculation here but after reading username I have doubts about this redditor

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In any case I STRONGLY recommend you to never share your credentials if someone propose to buy you Genesis Crystal using region prices. You will be scammed and lost your account. Actually there even was post couple of months ago about person who shared login and password because someone said that they can buy currency with lower prices. Long story short they lost their account.

PEAceDeath14252026-01-12 06:55

Moning brain just brained that you are talking about me as untrustworthy, and thats actually a good concern anyone should have about strangers on the internet. Tho i doubt your method of reading the username works. Mine is kind of a pun, if you read peace death without stop, it sounds like ukrainian "Пиздець", which is a slur that basically means "bad situation/outcome". Its an accurate description of my life, i took that username shortly after the war started, and it was rather fitting. 1425 is my old discord tag and i still use it everywhere if i need a sequence of numbers. Including in discord, it was POD#1425, and after they removed tags, it became just POD1425. im rocking that username everywhere else (steam, genshin, spotify, instagram, epic, etc), but on reddit i like my slur pun, so im gonna leave it here.

In a hypothetical situation where this is done, i am the who receives someone's login and password to other genshin account, so im not losing anything. Its me who has the lower price after all. I thought about this - combining a discord call with screen share, changing to dummy passwords and terminating session in hoyolab security is sufficient?

Honestly, i dont even know what do i do with a stolen account. Like, i know im good people and wont do this, because why? I have my own, and it takes a good chunk of my time already, i dont think i need a second one

Also, scamming someone means i put a bad tag on my account, and you bet i dont want that, its my main account, ive been using for 4 years, and got some karma, despite being a gremlin half the time in posts and comments

Wanted to attach screenshots from ingame shop and ask what calculation you are talking about. Currently, the price for biggest pack is 58.37$

kaeporo2026-01-11 15:30

This *feels* like something that could get you banned.

PEAceDeath14252026-01-11 15:32

My thoghts exactly. Thats why i made the post partly

izbiz1002026-01-11 15:33

Often this is against TOS in gacha games. I have not reviewed the terms for genshin but i know many do not like it and could ban you for it. (Some take it less seriously)

SuzukiSatou2026-01-11 15:50

This is how lootbar works, u pay lower price to them while they buy for you using cheaper currency. Technically its a gray zone as MHY is still earning money from u so they wont go out to ban u for no reason

Yautja___2026-01-11 15:54

It should, but no company cares about it and it screws us in third world countries having to pay extra because of asshats like that, abusing the system that is made to be abused, not only in gacha, steam as well.

lostn2026-01-12 03:46

if hoyo bans you for this, they'd be cutting their nose to spite their face.

It's like being offered $800k by a philanthropist and saying, I want $1 million or nothing. If you're not giving me 1M, you can GTFO because I don't want your measly 800k.

peruanToph2026-01-11 15:31

Taking advantage of how low the prizes are on a country going through war is definitely some late stage capitalism levels of greed but, as latinamerican, I am at least glad that it isnt happening to third world countries this time

PEAceDeath14252026-01-11 15:36

Only one you take advantage of here is hoyoverse. Each purchase you make in Ukraine has 20% tax automatically added. Every 100 bucks you spend like this, 20 of those go straight into ukrainian economy as tax. So please, do take advantage

Ikses2026-01-11 18:59

it has nothing to do with war, it could have been any other country in the world

Ne7herstorm2026-01-11 15:34

Idk how they do it, but even with a Ukrainian card I only see those prices in-game, on their website I see 100$ price for the biggest pack, so just using VPN wouldn't work.

Maybe on PC it's different, but that's how it's on Android.

Khrysor2026-01-11 15:53

I did something like that for fgo. To actually see prices for different countries you have to create an entirely new account for that country with vpn and temporarily delete your other accounts from your device. Then those prices will be shown. That's how it works in fgo for mobile. It's probably similar in other games.

PEAceDeath14252026-01-11 16:03

Funny shit that on android the prices are 1-2% higher for some reason than on pc. Welkin on pc costs 125 uah, but on android 130 uah

Ne7herstorm2026-01-11 16:06

Hey, poor google wants some money too xd

Cormacolinde2026-01-11 15:37

I’ve bought from the Japanese store before, connected using a VPN to a Japanese location, opened a private window, logged onto Hoyoverse’s own top-up store and bought my stuff. I don’t bother for Welkin, but I buy top-up yearly with the bonus and last year I did it using this trick. I had no issues, didn’t need to provide a fake Japanese address or anything like that.

I might try Ukraine next time I guess.

hotdogsea2026-01-11 15:39

I dont think whales are concerned whether they could save more by buying gems from a country with cheaper rates..,,.

As an occassional spender however, this seems amazing to be taken advantage of. Perhaps this is how "discounted primogems" sellers operate i.e. Lootbar, which keeps getting advertised lol

Personally, Ive tried it myself (not lootbar, but similar). Usually your country might have local sellers that sell it cheaper than lootbar (but maybe not Ukraine cheap), and thats how you can save.

Been doing it since 2021 (there were times I was able to save almost $20 on the $100 primogem bundle), and I have not been banned ever.

PEAceDeath14252026-01-11 17:29

Oh they are. On the scale some spend, even 10 more percent of discount means they save hundreds of dollars. There are also whales that dont have as much money, but still spend a sizeable portion

SuzukiSatou2026-01-11 15:50

Lootbar

cao4james2026-01-11 15:51

The elephant in the room is 3rd party top up sites, lootbar, ldshop, buffbuff, etc.

Yes it can be done, no it is not against TOS.

Like others in comments have mentioned, I'll assume that simply having a VPN is not sufficient (I haven't fact checked). But 3rd party sites definitely work, idk how they do it. However it is important to note that they are officially approved by hoyo, so hoyo allowed the fact that purchase from anywhere can go to any account where ONLY the UID is needed. They've setup the backend API to allow this. As a result, using 3rd party sites also can't get you banned. An example would be someone spending maliciously to your account, since all they need is your UID, if it's against TOS anyone can ban anyone else by simply obtaining their UID and spending on their account through these 3rd party sites.

Vicrooloo2026-01-11 15:53

Hundreds actually. Before Nod Krai I swiped to build up a fund for the whole region. Hopefully. Still have 400 pulls in the bank. Picked up Lauma and Nefer with the funds.

PEAceDeath14252026-01-11 16:25

Did you use Ukrainian currency for that?

Vicrooloo2026-01-11 16:26

Yes. I was on the Ukraine store, prices were in UAH and paid in UAH from my USD card with no foreign transaction fees.

VidGaMeR7772026-01-12 19:16

how do you see the Ukraine store? when in a vpn it just shows usd still.

Vicrooloo2026-01-12 19:16

You have to make a new account. Can’t just VPN over

VidGaMeR7772026-01-12 19:18

oh rip, I'm not making a new account after so many years for slightly cheaper prices. thanks tho.

thiirdybirdy2026-01-18 00:47

you can download genshin on epic use vpn while creating acc for ukraine acc, download genshin, my friend paid like i think 60 for the biggest top up?

VidGaMeR7772026-01-18 00:53

Can I still use my current Genshin account and just make a Ukraine epic account?

thiirdybirdy2026-01-18 00:55

You will need to install Genshin on your epic account, so If you have hard drive space, i prefer to install on there since the only reason would be to make your top up purchases on there. you just need to make sure you have your vpn on at all times for epic i believe. But yes just login to your Genshin acc on epic launcher. Also note that you need to have your epic acc from Ukraine which is why the VPN is very important

MNneck2026-01-11 15:54

While I don't know too much about international law and Genshin's TOS, this sounds dangerously close to something called "foreign exchange fraud", so you should NOT try this.

luciluci55622026-01-11 16:22

It's not forex fraud, but rather regional price abuse.

Usually when regional prices are exploited so much, companies will remove it and keep the prices same to every region (usually USD based). This fucks over lower income countries and get priced out of the market.

In this case, Hoyo doesn't care because they still got your money.

PEAceDeath14252026-01-11 16:26

Foreign exchange fraud is when you promise high returns on forex trading, its not even close

SanicHegehag2026-01-11 16:11

As a Whale, I just use [LootBar ](https://lootbar.gg/s/5Spt2d). With their coupons (which drop frequently), I spend about $80 per $100 ($108 with taxes if I get it from the PlayStation Market) top up.

I've probably saved $5k+ over the last few years.

PEAceDeath14252026-01-11 16:25

You could be spending 60 with ukrainian price tho. Thats the point of the post - find ppl that actually know and went for the sweetest deal

-perpetuallytired-2026-01-11 16:34

I don't. I pay with the currency I use because I can't be bothered and wouldn't take chances on these and have my account banned.

lostn2026-01-12 03:44

when I tried it with a VPN it defaulted to GBP or some other currency. Didn't work for me.