Is this a rude take on "lazy" players?

One of my friends only ever pulls for who they like in Genshin, and gacha games in general, and doesn't run proper teams at all, then complains about being poor in resources. They never get far in endgame, are too lazy to do events most of the time, and can barely play Genshin for 10 minutes without either saying its too much effort or getting "drained" and ditching the game. I understand the draining part but being too lazy to actually do things and irresponsibly using their wishes to then complain about not being able to get enough resources to pull who they want; it's just so stupid, in my opinion. How can you complain about not being able to do things but refuse to actually put in the effort to get resources?

Don't get me wrong, pulling for your favourites is fine. Pull for whoever you want, but the fact that they run teams like Hyperbloom with a DPS Sucrose, who barely does any damage as is, in modes like Abyss, which is very certain team centered, is so stupid.

Am I just being too practical and expecting them to be like me, who invests in their favourites so they're usable, or do I have a point?

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SanicHegehag2026-01-12 02:17

Most people (and I'm talking about the world at large, and not just Genshin) who complain the most are the primary cause of their own dissatisfaction. Complaining is the easiest path, and that's as far as they take it.

blizg2026-01-12 02:34

I wonder if OP is the primary cause of his own dissatisfaction, since he’s complaining about his friend.

Riersa2026-01-12 02:17

You do have a point, but at the same time just ignore those people, they will always find something new to complain.

Agreeable_Low_74032026-01-12 02:24

yea been doin that an shes not happy, keeps begging to play tcg an asking how to beat abyss when they have some realy good teams but cant be botherd to lvl up skirk past 2

Riersa2026-01-12 02:31

It looks like she just wants your attention.

Agreeable_Low_74032026-01-12 02:45

nah im not the only one, even staged an intervention once for her tcg addiction lol

CristevePeachFan2026-01-12 03:01

**WHAT'S YOUR NING BUILD?**

Fantastic_Stay80592026-01-12 03:17

I've got a decent ning build ngl

Riersa2026-01-12 03:58

I just follow KQM build guide, I rarely try making my own build.

Rex_Lapis_2026-01-12 02:17

Yup, nothing you said is bad its his fault, people do t commit to the game and then expect to get every single reward and then cry, you can see that when any combat event drops. He is lazy thats all just ignore his complaints

Atque123456782026-01-12 02:30

Remember that one namecard combat event and all the crying?

Meanwhile I ditched it as soon as I got my primos, aint worth it, even with my mostly well built teams.

momo65482026-01-12 02:17

I don’t really understand why they’re doing the abyss. I’m too lazy to do much character building or team metas, but I just don’t do endgame content. I play for the questing, exploration, and events. I generally just avoid anything too combat focused.

multistansendhelp2026-01-12 02:24

Same. I haven’t done Abyss past getting free Collei and I don’t bother with IT or SO. If you’re not building, then endgame isn’t going to work.

momo65482026-01-12 02:54

Yep, and there’s soooo much more to do in the game than just grind endgame. Even if I’m “resinless” I always have some quests or exploration on the back burner.

Riersa2026-01-12 02:32

I only did floor 9/10, because it's basically just slightly above average over world difficulty.

bobwuzhere12242026-01-12 02:18

Pull for love never meta.

Agreeable_Low_74032026-01-12 02:23

pull for the meta teams of those you love

issm2026-01-12 02:18

I mean, they're stupid for expecting that a gacha game won't deliberately waste time, but at the end of the day, "getting resources" is literally just the gacha game deliberately wasting your time so that you keep coming back to it.

babangelsin2026-01-12 02:18

Your friend probably just doesn't like the game they are playing, they are in for the gacha dopamine and acquiring of cool splash art JPG. When something doesn't stimulate you, it is very easy to get exhausted and bored doing that thing.

Also call me old-fashioned, but somebody being "lazy" for not committing to a video game is a very funny concept to me. 15 year old me would treat that information as fantasy, and yet it is now the reality we are living in.

Atque123456782026-01-12 02:32

Its especially funny to me, because even some other "real" games, especially older ones are even more grindy than any gacha, mostly JRPGs, well provided you dont exploit some mechanics or something.

The plague of modern walking simulator games where upgrades are rewarded and not earned.

notthatjaded2026-01-12 02:19

If they're complaining to you and they don't want your help and you don't want to hear it...just tell them they're welcome to play the game they want to but you're not interested in hearing their complaints.

Sharlizarda2026-01-12 03:04

This is good advice

You don't have to mean or angry about it, just tell them. It might feel mean, but this is actually how to keep friends in the long run as it stops resentment building up

No_Fortune_3702026-01-12 02:31

one of the best things about pulling for a character to me is the work it takes to get the primos. been grinding exploration and have got 36 wishes am at 68 pity not guaranteed though hopefully i get columbina

Additional_Flan63332026-01-12 03:33

goodluck on columbina!

OmniOnly2026-01-12 02:31

There is probably something more going on. Is genshin more of a distraction for something major.

kissinurmum692026-01-12 02:33

Some people are just desperate for attention, just like the people who make posts complaining about people complaining

Additional_Flan63332026-01-12 03:36

in no way am i attention farming, im just trying to understand if something like that is an insensitive take. nothing more, nothing less.

shadowmanx19892026-01-12 02:40

The game did give them resources. If they dont do the bare minimum to collect it, it's on them.

QWERTYAF12412026-01-12 02:42

No. They're just a noob who expects the game to not only be free but also completely catered to them. That's why people pay so they can slip the hassle with no consequences.

I_choose_imp2026-01-12 02:45

Bad game design should not be blames on players

Unpopular_Outlook2026-01-12 02:46

Do they know they can pay money if they don’t want to put in the time and effort? Because I would just tell them to pay if they don’t want to actually get the resources

Additional_Flan63332026-01-12 03:39

they don't enjoy whaling on games and "paying bullshit amounts of money". they're unemployed too so they wouldn't have money to spend lying around so i understand why they haven't just whaled.

Xc4lib3r2026-01-12 03:19

Them being irresponsible for the wishes speaks major. They’re just addicted to dopamine from gambling and not the game. Tell them to play other gacha games with better pity/reward system instead.

PaulStarhaven2026-01-12 03:20

Eh, that sort likes the characters and not the game. That is a fundamentally different stance from liking and learning the game system. They are probably better off with an AFKRPG, but eh, they're here, might as well deal or ignore.
My deal I mean deadpan "You have to play the game to get the resources" every time they complain about not having enough pulls/ weak characters. It does not help the situation, it's just what I would do.

Historical_Twist99692026-01-12 03:22

Same. 10min per day only. Commission + daily raisin. Only doing abyss, IT and onslaught. Can't bother with events anymore except the windtrace. That one is fun

izanagi612026-01-12 03:30

Normally i would agree wholeheartedly, but genshin also has some rough edges to sand off that would make gathering those resources alot more convenient. My two biggest gripes are custcene skip button and movement outside of battle being ass. Nothing kills my motivation faster than a limited time event cutscene. Especially the ones about characters i have absolutely zero attachment to. Mashing A for five minutes just to play genshin's version of subway surfers or whatever isn't exactly riveting. Regarding exploration, i just don't think there's a reason running and climbing should be as slow and tedious anymore. It made sense in year 1 cause they didn't want people finishing the game as fast. But given the ridiculous size of the game now, there's no reason not to give us more speed. If they ever gave us QoL for these, this game would improve dramatically

white_fish_on_pond2026-01-12 03:33

Actually yes, because these players were here for one game and find another.

Hardly ever a event that i ever did qas worth it, i just like the stories, and overworld quest with light exploration.

I didn't signed up for preadatory practcies. And mind numb grinding.

mahriyo2026-01-12 03:49

I personally disagree with the notion of "effort" and "investing" into my video games. Genshin definitely takes this to the extreme too. Oh yea here is your character congrats but also they are super weak and you gotta level 20 different aspects of their kit, one of which is completely reliant on rng, and btw you only have like 4 goes at actually levelling anything up before we stop you or you pay us money. Enjoy! I love Genshin, but that's stupid and anyone who says otherwise should have more respect for themselves and their time.

But at the same time, understanding the mechanics of a game is part of playing it. If your friend wants to play a game with less hoops to jump, there are a million other games like that they can play instead.

Dawn-Shade2026-01-12 03:49

lol, do we somehow know the same person?

eventually they stopped playing genshin and moved on to another gacha game. we don't really talk about the other games because i never played it but i bet money they have the same complains.

Additional_Flan63332026-01-12 03:57

they still actively play but very rarely, so we probably don't know the same person but wow, it goes to show that it's not just them.

808fisherman2026-01-12 03:59

nothing wrong with playing the game stupidly, whatever works for people, live and let live. The issue is playing the game stupidly and complaining that the game isn't going your way after playing it stupidly.

you're not so much rude for the take as immature for the dynamic. Why would you hang around and call this person friend? Then at the end of it all complain about this person on reddit. If you're in k-12 this is reasonable since you don't have much choice in who you hangout with whether it be classes or recess or lunch hours etc and social boundaries aren't quit as clear if you're on the younger side. Once you're an adult you can choose who you hang with.

starshine_babes2026-01-12 04:02

Players are entitled to play the game as they see fit. Plenty of people only pull for the characters they like and don’t care about meta. Those players also tend to understand that they won’t be able to clear certain content like the Abyss or Stygian unless they’re the kind of stubborn players who will go insane on stats just to play DPS Barbara, which it sounds like your friend isn’t. Genshin has mechanics and team compositions for a reason. They can choose whether to engage with that content or not.

That being said, if your friend is engaging with the game the way they want to and still unable to play for longee than 10 minutes, it sounds like they just don’t enjoy playing gacha games. To which I would then ask…… why are they playing a game they don’t like??? They’re aware they can still engage in the fandom and keep up with the story without playing the game, right?

Real-Contest49142026-01-12 04:20

Not really.

If a player chooses to deliberately ignore a mechanics and understand how to player, they shouldn't complain if things are difficult or don't work out.

From both the devs and the community they are dozens of tools available to help people become better and if you don't really engage in that then you can't really complain.

Like if I go to a gym and lift a few 1 pound weights and then another guy goes and actually follows a routine, steadily works his way up and then lifts 100 weights,i can't complain because I didn't work towards properly getting stronger.

It's simple as that, if they insist on complaining we'll just leave them be, if they refuse to learn then they won't get better.

tuxedocat20182026-01-12 04:26

You have a point but your friend is essentially a casual player. It's OK to be casual but unfortunately they cant accept the situation and are being negative to your detriment. Decisions have consequences so someone who plays routinely and puts time and effort into building will have a much better time playing. If you're annoyed by them doing this often, either set limitations on how much they can whine about it or just talk about something else. Someone who complains too much and not willing to change their own situation can be draining.

BestSiLenZ2026-01-12 04:37

Not taking game seriously is really ok. But whining they want more reward while they do that is annoying. People like that aren't playing game, they just a gambler who want thier token for gambling.