Nod krai may not have been made last minute but it IS filler

So far absolutely no major story progression has happened whatsoever all we really have gotten is some exposition dumps from Nicole

Mavuika still has her gnosis, let’s be honest, the shades aren’t showing up until snezh at the earliest. No way we even get dignified with another ronova eye scene

A region can have heavy amounts of story but still be filler if it doesn’t advance the main story at all and that’s exactly what nod krai is, explaining the story of the game that was already there in lore books but not in the game

No relation to the main story tho

Nod krai is the equivalent of the game’s backstory being explained to us before we enter the actual final story arc

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Pristine_Low41342026-01-13 05:21

Filler but very good storytelling I'm ok pretty much with it, I don't care if it have to relevant main story that much cuz it nearly snezhnaya so the climax could be there

Grouchy_Gap452026-01-13 05:24

"good storytelling"... With fatui being a mere bunch of clowns at bina service, villain with no impact, way too long story with so much festival, yeah right 🙄. Shitty storytelling you mean

takenusername50012026-01-13 06:17

> With fatui being a mere bunch of clowns

and the mask drops

Fabulous_Ground_19832026-01-13 05:25

Wasted a whole damn year, we'd be getting Tsaritsa by now

Fabulous_Ground_19832026-01-13 05:22

Yeah I agree it's filler. There was zero mention of Nod Krai for years. It basically exists to delay Snezhnaya and the end of Genshin's Teyvat chapter.

They could have properly introduced Alice and Varka at anytime during the past 4 years

Lucky-chan2026-01-13 05:22

I'd consider anything labeled as an "Archon Quest" not filler.

Grouchy_Gap452026-01-13 05:26

It's song of the welkin moon quest so yeah it's filler

Lucky-chan2026-01-13 05:33

Sounds like something a member of the FatuiHQ would say.

Grouchy_Gap452026-01-13 05:36

Too bad for you I'm not. And no need to be one to realize the horrendous writing of the "organisation" if you can still call it that. For a region that gathered so much of them in one place, it's the region that managed to destroy every single one of them in the span of few acts

a_gray_sparrow2026-01-13 05:40

Dude says he's not when his post history is visible lol lmao

Lucky-chan2026-01-13 05:41

It's an organization filled with people with their own goals in mind. They're not united. We've known this since the Fatui teaser.

Grouchy_Gap452026-01-13 05:43

It doesn't change anything. They are all badly written. Many of them shouldnt even have been there in the first place. Starting with that little dove. How the hell are you even suppose to take them seriously when all of their head honchos are gone because of bad writing and hoyo habit of pushing the traveler agenda

CoconutxKitten2026-01-13 05:44

You literally have posts there

You’re an awful liar

LiamMorg2026-01-13 05:23

And what is this nebulous "main story", exactly? Is it just the Fatui collecting the Gnosis? If so, Natlan is filler.

Grouchy_Gap452026-01-13 05:26

Yes it is. And if it's the case, natlan is indeed not filler since said gnosis will be collected in natlan region, so natlan story is not filler but it isnt over

Fabulous_Ground_19832026-01-13 05:57

Natlan is not filler, the major story was actually impacted.

So far, Nod Krai got nothing

LivingASlothsLife2026-01-13 05:24

>No relation to the main story tho

I guess Khaenriah and moon lore means nothing now huh

Grouchy_Gap452026-01-13 05:26

We do nothing with it. Having lore without plot progression is filler

Fabulous_Ground_19832026-01-13 05:43

They didn't need to waste a whole year of the game to show us these.

Grouchy_Gap452026-01-13 05:24

I agree it's filler

DI3S_IRAE2026-01-13 05:26

Spaceship? The connection of all previous moon related characters? Hyperborea? Time control? Moon portals? Teyvat borders? Cat ears Arlecchino? Narcizenkreuz? Deshret pillars? Manipulation of past events? Durin? Colors out of Space??

I'm honestly not sure myself. Last minute meaning 2 years of preparation, too.

Grouchy_Gap452026-01-13 05:29

It's filler since we do nothing with what you mentioned besides exposing it. It doesn't drive the main plot forward, which is Tsaritsa collecting gnosis to rebel against celestia and traveler finding his sibling. It just gives intel on the fatui writing, and oh boy is it disastrous

DI3S_IRAE2026-01-13 05:53

I think this plot was already dispersed and got new meanings back in Sumeru and Fontaine, at least to me.

Ever since the sibling told us to "reach the end of our story", finding the other Sibling lost half of the importance.

Plus NK had our whole interaction with fake sibling, showing what the traveler is capable of doing,which also kinda made they question their actions. It was a very important step that showed made them question, 'what if the true sibling changed like that?', right?

Tsaritsa collecting Gnosis for... Something. We still don't know the true motivation behind it all, plus Mav keeping her Gnosis and the harbingers all dissolving is quite interesting to how they will reason with the Teyvat border smasher Pyro Archon, without their best agents.

Pierro having a grudge against the shades and Mav using power from one of them will be quite interesting if they connect these dots, I think.

Fabulous_Ground_19832026-01-13 05:51

The spaceship was revealed in A Space and Time for you, it has had little plot relevance in Nod Krai so far

Borders could have been introduced anytime post 5.1 when we saw the false sky.

Durin was already a thing since Simulanka

How is Deshret relevant to the Main arc?

Sandrone talking about Narcizenkreuz was a lore crumb that only activated if you did the WQ. Otherwise, not relevant.

Moon related characters couldve been fit into Snezhnaya's AQ.

Hyperborea is just another ancient civilization that could have been in any WQ

None of these things justified delaying the game a whole year to convey. They did it for money. Nod Krai IS filler.

DI3S_IRAE2026-01-13 05:55

You did not question cat ears Arlecchino so I guess NK is still with relevance.

Fabulous_Ground_19832026-01-13 06:01

Yknow what ill give it that much, cat ears Arlecchino is pretty peak

DI3S_IRAE2026-01-13 19:11

There is grace in agreeing even when we disagree. Despite my jokes, God bless you my friend.

YannFrost2026-01-13 05:27

Here you go

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqbiog1MrNc&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqbiog1MrNc&t)

SimbaSeekingSleep2026-01-13 05:28

They did say Nod Krai would be where they’d tie up some unfinished plot lines. I haven’t really been too invested though, haven’t had much time to really explore, but it seems at least some on the horizon are the Wanderer storyline with Dottore, the Marionnette and Mary Anne storyline from Fontaine, the Knights of Favonious with Varka, Albedo and Durin, and finally seeing Alive and more of the Hexenzirkel. Those are the ones off the top of my head.

It makes sense no major stuff has happened since Nod Krai wasn’t part of the roadmap trailer back when the game came out. Now are they doing a good job tying up those storylines? Depends how invested you are and if you actually have read the previous lore and all. Personally, the Natlan storylines with the previous Pyro Archon(s) and the Dragonlord character were overwhelming mostly with all the different names and location names being so ridiculously long and similar looking.

Edit: 6 day old account… and others have already pointed out OP making various posts like these.

Grouchy_Gap452026-01-13 05:34

I am not invested in nod krai anymore since it keeps wasting all the harbingers who goes in that region one by one, which is remind you, the main plot of the region (or sub region). Honestly can we either go to shneznaya already for a supposedly "real stakes and charismatic archon figure" or go back to natlan to deal with capitano and mavuika gnosis ?

fubukishirou072026-01-13 05:28

Yeah its a filler but compare the nod krai's story to natlan's its way miles ahead honestly. For us lore enjoyers nod krai is heaven to us.

Grouchy_Gap452026-01-13 05:30

For lore enjoyer, not storytelling. Nod krai story is just as shitty as natlan if not more since it's longer for nothing

fubukishirou072026-01-13 05:35

I mean didnt you listen to the dev that with so many plotholes the story has, the introduction of nod krai filled those holes. I mean if you wanted a story that is incomplete then go ahead. But many of us wanted a story that is complete.

Grouchy_Gap452026-01-13 05:38

That's the problem. It didn't fill anything. The OP said it. Mavuika gnosis problem is still in process, fatui are in total disband, we still have to go back in every region to dive deeper into their lore (like later in mondstadt in dorman port)... We didn't progress at all in the plot. We just exposit the lore of each of the cast member of nod krai while doing little to nothing with it

fubukishirou072026-01-13 06:11

I dont know if its me or your just very delusional. The plot is already there from the start and nod krai just progress it already. If you didnt read the books thats on you but for some of use who read the books and lore of genshin the plot of the story is already progressing. Maybe you just understand in razor language.

Dyko_Genshin2026-01-13 05:43

"active in fatuihq" yeah put the dottore in the bag bro 💔

Fabulous_Ground_19832026-01-13 05:55

Natlan was better honestly. I'm not a lore nerd.

Gandalf-er2026-01-13 05:29

Because it's not about progression, it's about patching the loophole of some lores.

Grouchy_Gap452026-01-13 05:39

Of some lore. Visibly not all of it. Since nothing really happened in nod krai, aside ofc every fatui becoming a total clown.

WorstSkilledPlayer2026-01-13 07:20

Username checks out 😂😂😂

Ikses2026-01-13 05:32

its literally called version welkin moon instead of 6.0
yes, its a filler

AlterWanabee2026-01-13 05:35

A post made by a 6-day account?

LOwOJ2026-01-13 05:43

agenda posting before the patch.. you love to see it.

AlterWanabee2026-01-13 05:43

A patch never starts without some agenda posting by a burner account with hidden history.

Riersa2026-01-13 05:44

I have seen like 5-6 post from this account in the last 24 hour, and all of them are nonsense.

Spieds2026-01-13 11:43

Only 5-6? I think they're over 10 at this point. And I feel like they do it daily. Truly must be one miserable life if that's how you spend your free time constantly

Dyko_Genshin2026-01-13 05:39

The way I see it, what we're getting is different and maybe better than what we usually get. Yes other regions cause direct story progression, but ive always felt kinda blueballed by other region due to the lack of addressing the big parts of the lore.

With nod krai we got (and will get more in 6.3) to know about the spaceship, dottore finally reveals himself, Alice and Nicole showing up, duron, varka, just these characters with so much buildup showing up feels like years of waiting has been worth it.

LOwOJ2026-01-13 05:40

if nod krai is a filler then the previous Regional AQ are much more a Filler lol.. nod krai literally has more quest to flesh out the story tha any other nations.

shadowmanx19892026-01-13 06:10

So you say a story which, if we skip we suddenly go to Snezhnaya and see they suddenly dont have No 2 and No 3 Harbringer (potentialy another one) at their HQ, is a filler?

I guess filler got a whole new meaning now

issm2026-01-13 06:44

> we suddenly go to Snezhnaya and see they suddenly dont have No 2 and No 3 Harbringer (potentialy another one)

That's only an issue if there's reason to expect all of the Harbingers to normally be there which... there isn't. You're also assuming that Snezhnaya's story is complete and immutable, and there's no way Mihoyo could rewrite it to include or exclude a few characters.

But certainly, Nod Krai isn't a filler.

Calling it a filler would imply that there's an overall narrative that it's filling a gap in, which isn't the case.

Genshin's story isn't structured as one big unified story. It's a series of barely connected short stories. If anything relevant happens in Snezhnaya or later, I'm sure Mihoyo will just exposition dump a tl;dr of the relevant information. The way the game is, with a regional story released once a year, and an update to the Dain questline once a year, they'd almost kind of have to anyways.

Inserting a story in between what you were originally planning to do to fill in some plot holes isn't inserting a filler arc, it's just inserting another short story.

Actually, with Dain showing up in the actual archon quest this time, I wouldn't be surprised if Nod Krai wasn't intended to just be the Dain quest for the Snezhnaya arc, but that ended up being so long they felt the need to expand it to an entire region.

shadowmanx19892026-01-13 06:59

\>That's only an issue if there's reason to expect all of the Harbingers to normally be there which... there isn't

I think it should be what we expected though, since we travelled almost all of Teyvat with the only place left is Snezhnaya (if we exclude Nodkrai as a so-called "filler"). With the mysterious on-going Project Stuzha and Snezhnaya having most of the Gnoses, I doubt the Harbringers would go anywhere else except gathering their forces preparing for war with the Celestial.

issm2026-01-13 07:38

> I doubt the Harbringers would go anywhere else except gathering their forces preparing for war with the Celestial.

Or being sent out to do preparation work, or cleaning up loose ends elsewhere, etc., etc.

They could be absent for any number of reasons.

randomsnarfle2026-01-13 06:16

Nod-krai is literally the first time we have come face to face with a sinner, arguably one of the most important antagonists in Genshin's overarching story given their connections to Khaenri'ah, Dainsleif, and our sibling, and their role in causing the cataclysm, which makes them indirectly responsible for most of the conflicts we've seen in every archon quest so far. How can you argue it's filler? Just because Columbina doesn't have a gnosis? The Fatui getting the gnosis has never been been the focus of any archon quest aside from Liyue, they just all end with it. Sometimes even off-screen (Fontaine) or in cutscene the Traveler plays no role in (Sumeru).

Filler is content you can skip without changing the story. I would argue that so far, Nod-krai is among the least skippable archon quests. You don't have you enjoy it if you don't like the story, but that doesn't make it filler.

No-Piano-9872026-01-13 06:34

Don't feed the troll.

Eggyolk572026-01-13 07:45

you and i have VERY different definitions of "filler" and "main story"

Xirtie2026-01-13 11:18

This is a terrible attempt at bait.

Spieds2026-01-13 11:45

"...">"report">"Spam">"excessive posting or commenting in the community"

the guy just spams post, what feels like, every 2 hours at this point