Top 3 Lowest Cost Dire Clears for Stygian Onslaught 6.2
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tracer4b2026-01-13 05:50
The Lv95 Mavuika run was done before she got a 20 Atk% buff from Theater. It would definitely have been possible without the Lv95, but this is how it ended up so
The Aether (Geo) run is basically a variant of the Zhongli collision dmg cheese from last cycle, except we don't need Zhongli or Jean this time. Since fall damage is so readily available, I didn't include all the other runs where fall damage (or collision dmg etc.) made up over 50% of the damage contribution. Really you could've put Jean + Amber + Zhongli/GeoMC + your favourite character and put them on the board.
The NGA collection post also has a 15 seconds fall damage Jean + Amber (1 cost) against iktomisaurus, but it requires a bannable fps unlocker to achieve. Under the standard 60 fps on PC, the max fall damage is less than 1.6M, and it won't be enough to kill it with a single Jean's skill, so you have to wait another 60 seconds to let the iktomisaurus to fly again, and the final clear time is around 80 seconds. If you use a fps unlocker and set to very high fps (like 600+), the fall damage could reach 2M+, enough to kill it under 20 seconds. Using such tools will trigger the server's anti-cheat and kick your account off line within minutes.
The collision trick with geo MC/Zhongli are completely legitimate and does not require any third party tool.
OrbitalSong2026-01-13 06:17
What's the relation between fps and fall damage?
I'm always kind of mystified by what a player needs to be thinking about in Genshin to order to optimize fall damage. Like the [Wiki](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Fall_DMG) has a formula for it, but fps certainly doesn't show up in there. It must be part of velocity, but then that's just leaving the important part unsaid, since we then need to understand what optimizes velocity.
pzlama3332026-01-13 06:58
At higher fps, Jean's skill can throw the boss to the ground at higher speed.
WhooooCares2026-01-13 05:51
Yoimiya at #3 for the Iktomisaurus is Justice.
DanielDKXD2026-01-13 07:00
5 out of the 8 teams running iansan chev wheelchair :sob:
but very happy to see a yoi clear
ChampioN-One-42502026-01-13 09:17
When did Iansan Chev become wheelchair lol?!
OrbitalSong2026-01-13 09:28
Didn't you hear? Apparently every set of synergistic off-fielders now gets the derogatory wheelchair label. Even when they're supports and not sub-DPSs it turns out.
ChampioN-One-42502026-01-13 09:30
Which is completely ridiculous imo. It shouldn't be labelled as a wheelchair when the character actually synergizes well with the team.
IS_Mythix2026-01-13 11:25
Can we just ban the word “wheelchair” from now on
awesomegamer9192026-01-13 11:28
Non-sub dps supports are almost never a wheelchair, a wheelchair is something like Fischl Durin Bennet where the baseline dps is high enough that the other characters matter a lot less, or the upcoming Columbina Ineffa, the closes to a pure support wheelchair is Xianyun Bennet Citlali since Xianyun gives a ton of effective MV and Bennet Citlali allows you to reliably melt plunges.
DigiAirship2026-01-13 11:55
Does Nahida, Kuki, Yelan count as a wheelchair? I remember a lot of characters were unironically better by adding them to the hyperbloom team back in the day.
BobbyWibowo2026-01-13 21:01
pretty sure the idea is that a wheelchair only has 2 wheels, but it's an internet term so i dunno really
WisconsinWintergreen2026-01-13 19:46
That is not a wheelchair because Iansan and Chev are doing almost zero damage and it is the on-fielder who is contributing the majority.
ghoraaa2026-01-13 10:17
me and my friend thought the bird bosses are relatively easy in fearless, we both cleared it with some scuffed yoimiya team, i did it with yoimiya emilie albedo and durin all c0r0
until last night, where i had to clear it on other people account, maigod i was STRUGGLING, i spent like 4 hours until i eventually gave up and go with scuffed jean cheese comp, it was already 4 am and i dont know how to cheese with jean, so i just did small cheese where jean only did like extra 400k damage slam per flight, and still had to play the boss after each flight
anyway, at this point, i realized that, maybe the boss isn't as easy as i thought, and yoimiya was unironically a really good pick, felt quite vindicated when seeing this list lol
Ke5_Jun2026-01-13 19:38
Yoimiya is good vs the boss because she is ranged pyro NA spammer. Basically no other pyro character does this except PMC during Gosoythoth fight (which you obviously can’t use in Stygian). Durin also auto targets the boss which is why he is the actual intended pick for this boss alongside Venti.
So you can just keep the DPS going despite the Iktomisaur flying around all over the place and out of range of meelee units.
Lyney **would** be good if not for the fact his CAs are way too slow and he can’t dodge easily while charging them up. His burst also isn’t like Amber’s who can apply a ton of pyro to break the shield.
I also did a Yoimiya clear on my alt, but because I needed Chev/Durin/Fischl for the Field Generator I wasn’t able to log her in my final clear (I also used Jean cheese).
peppapony2026-01-13 06:25
I have c6 gaming and Xianyun but I just can't get my gaming to do the damage.
I wish they made more 4* like Gaming, where at c6 they can clear hardest content but with good play and builds
shre32932026-01-13 07:11
depending on who else you have, xianyun might not be his bis.
peppapony2026-01-13 07:36
Yeah, I'm missing Iansan, seems like Iansan has done some great training work on our lion dancer
awesomegamer9192026-01-13 11:31
Razer is right on the edge of being able to do endgame content, if the content lines up then his Chev teams are reasonably competitive, Sethos is also up there, and PMC can be brute forced to clear some content.
1Cealus2026-01-13 06:33
Interesting that mav did the best vs baptist.
Also some people were saying arle was better than mav vs generator at low cost(couldn't verify since both of mine were c2+ lol) but i guess that's not true if you know higher end mav combos
tracer4b2026-01-13 12:05
This "higher end Mavuika combo" is actually getting off the bike and doing claymore plunges infused with Pyro lmao
1Cealus2026-01-13 12:08
Wait actually? I thought people were doing cdcdcd OL cancels and fitting it within the buff window after a plunge. Haven’t seen the video since Ive been in work
So they’re just normal plunging and since mav has her q + good steroids she’s the best one here?
This one is more normal doing bike plunge + combos. https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/s/vFk25vvvFL
Educational_Lion_9442026-01-13 16:07
her e is also off field damage and can trigger ororon passive leading to less field time needed on the electro character (some from fischl to no on ororon)
nghigaxx2026-01-13 16:46
I mean arle is only 2 sec slower (112), and there's a lot more ppl try-harding mav compares to arle, it's just a number game to make the extra few sec. And again arle is better for pretty much everyone, plunge N2 is a lot easier than dash cancel every plunge
1Cealus2026-01-13 16:53
Not true on that last part, the mav clears are just her doing bikeless plunges. Easiest thing in the world and unlike arle she can be healed
nghigaxx2026-01-13 17:00
how do you think you can jump right after plunging to cancel the plunge animation and also the hit lag? you dash. That's the dash cancel i'm talking about. Just check the video, I don't even need to watch to know mav's stamina gonna be red. To plunge faster you have to dash
1Cealus2026-01-13 17:05
Arle still dash cancels her plunge though. Thats on top of not being able to heal, i personally did runs on both my arle and mav and my arle died a LOT.
nghigaxx2026-01-13 17:10
the normal already cancel it for you no? so you dont have to with arle since her best combo is plunge N2 anyways, while for mavs it keep plunging thats why you need to dash. Also arle best 0 cost weap give atk% that get diluted with the buff, while SS give a bunch of dmg% which is perfect for a 600% atk buff.
markcan_killua2026-01-13 06:36
gaming and yoimiya meta in this day and age? we love to see it
DigiAirship2026-01-13 06:55
Why Charlotte in the Skirk team against the baptist? Purely to help break the water shield faster? But then, why Charlotte over Citlali?
retiredfplplayer2026-01-13 06:59
Maybe cost maxxing
DigiAirship2026-01-13 07:03
Oh, right. This is the lowest cost clears, not necessarily the fastest clears. I get it now.
tracer4b2026-01-13 09:49
Charlotte frontload Cryo app is actually really strong and probably better than Citlali, that said Citlali will definitely be better here overall but then it’s +1 cost
pookin_out2026-01-13 06:58
very fun stygian, I managed to do a 2 cost dire baptist and 1 cost dire field generator myself
Weak-Association62572026-01-13 07:01
It’s 2026 and people still consider C6 4* a 0 cost
Nunu56172026-01-13 07:11
Yeah everyone knows it’s hard to get for newer 4stars. But we stick with it for formality sake
saberjun2026-01-13 07:12
It’s 2026 and people still consider C6 4\* a 0 cost not fair
Arc-D2026-01-13 09:59
No one considers it unfair, its just useless to us who want to clear dire with actual low 'cost' investment
I saw multiple 3rd boss clears with mav cit xilo benny and thought 'hey, i can replace xilo with kaz and replicate this'. And replicate i did. Same for 1st boss skirt team with shenhe>cit.
Cant do shit for the c6 4* though, their best replacement is themselves at lower cons, which just isnt enough. Them at c6 is more than a mainstat of increase ffs.
I also wanna go on a tangent and bemoan varesuh needing the two 4* to be relevant. It has screwed up banner rateups and other charas just have significantly weaker rateups lmao. Hopefully no future 5* is reliant on not just one, but two c6 4*. 250 pulls is no joke, you gotta spend 35% of pulls we get in a f2p cycle to get c6 4* lmao
saberjun2026-01-13 10:44
You wanna clear dire? That’s not the attitude of pursuing dire clear. Devoted people don’t have the time to complain like that (complaints does nothing) but to seek every opportunity/possibility of new ideas. You don’t sound like that. You are just acting like that
Arc-D2026-01-13 11:54
as i said, i already cleared dire as f2p. I cleared with teams that i saw no one clear with before me so im alright with complaining.
Its like mav with trooper next patch- players doing combos poorly will still get it because of c6 chevy and iansan
Souvik_Dutta2026-01-13 07:18
The entire cost system is a useless metric overall for standard accounts who want to clear dire. It's just a niche speedrun category.
Using r5 hook and consider it 0 cost where using wolf Gravestone will be 1 cost.
Then there is constellation abuse which is considered 1 cost where a C2 5* dps alone(with 4stars) can out dps a full C0 R1 team of 8 cost using only 2 cost. ( This cycle SO was easy so it was not used)
tracer4b2026-01-13 09:47
The 4\* thing has been discussed to death and I do agree with it but why is it invalid for the single C2 to outperform the full C0 R1 team? Cons cost the same to pull than new characters
Souvik_Dutta2026-01-13 09:57
Most people will go for 3 C0 5 stars rather than pulling a C2 to cover all types of scenarios.
The low cost speed runners generally have all characters C2 and use the ones required for the cycle with other 4 star showing low cost run. (We have seen this in previous cycles)
tracer4b2026-01-13 12:03
They don't, usually they borrow each other's accounts.
Pulling a C2 5* dps to brute force through checks is a valid solution the same as pulling for three different C0 5\*s. There's no point calling it "abuse" if it actually works to clear the hardest content, which it does
Souvik_Dutta2026-01-13 12:22
> useless metrics for standard accounts who are looking to clear dire. it's just a niche speedrun category.
Pulling a C2 character is not a valid solution for most accounts as when the cycle changes and your character is not suitable for the stage (you also have less characters overall) forget about dire you will have difficulty clearing fearless.
I don't have any issue with the speedruns and speedrunners themselves.Within the rules of the speedrun they are doing the best. What I'm saying it doesn't translate to people who are looking to clear dire. So unless there is a change in cost calculation it's not helpful to a broader audience. The entire point of which costs what is useless(until it reflects general accounts) as rules can be made anything for a speedrun category. (4 star characters and weapons are not free as well they require pulls and specially the banner weapons are harder to get than 5 stars)
narium2026-01-13 18:22
How often has Mavuika not appeared since Stygian released?
pdmt2432026-01-13 18:42
if you are looking to clear Dire, at the very least you have to put some investment in, whether via Cons (pulls) or cracked artifacts and skills (time) lol
and Dire is definitely not for a "broader audience" lol, it's the highest level of endgame
Souvik_Dutta2026-01-13 18:56
Broader audience in the sense who are looking to clear dire.
Cons are not always required for dire clear. There are plenty of people clearing Dire with C0R1 teams which are actually the "low cost" runs that can help people clear using similar teams. Not this misleading speedrun category. Getting a R1 weapon is way easier than r5 serpent spine/hook or any other BP/banner exclusives.
pdmt2432026-01-13 19:02
not always required, but it is a way to do so lol
and I don't get how getting a R1 is easier than r5 battle pass weapons when they're guaranteed once you pay and it's every patch, while R1 has the constraints of being non-guaranteed or you may not have enough pulls for guaranteed (usually you pull characters first), and it may take a while for rerun lol
Souvik_Dutta2026-01-13 20:20
"Low cost" implies - people who don't spend much on the game specifically F2P/welkin players.
Now if you look at F2P/ welkin players very few go for battle pass or constellation. Mostly they pull for C0 or at most R1.
tracer4b2026-01-14 01:46
I think you are really underestimating the power of modern C2s as well as overestimating how restrictive each boss is. Not every boss is a Cryo bot which is both an HP sponge and severely punishing for not following the recommended archetype.
Having enough damage on your carry so you can power through the restriction, or being able to add characters to your team that break the mechanic while still having enough damage to clear, is also a strategy that works. Every cycle you hear about Mavuika and Skirk brute forcing anything but that’s mainly because they have the power to do that at C0. If you get your carry to say C2 and your damage matches that, then it’s the same idea.
And indeed there are lots of clears with C2 Kinich, C2 Varesa etc on a lot of the dire bosses so far, that I can’t show here bc it doesn’t match this category
No-Tonight31322026-01-14 04:19
you are not clearing with only 3 c0 5 star type teams unless you pull every single new character which is just stupid .
and that certainly does not " cover all types of scenarios "
Pulling a broken c2 pretty much guarantees 1/3 can be brut forced with sufficient skills. And if you are lucky it might even be a better if there is a good 4 star on the banner .
Akikala2026-01-13 15:58
Yep, the "cost" system is probably the most flawed system people actively follow that I've seen in recent memory.
It is ONLY useful for speedrunning categorization because there is not other realistic standard to set or follow (or no one has tried to successfully make one at least). But if you're not speedrunning and specifically competing with other speedrunners using that system, it's literally a worthless system to follow and to talk about.
Titanium702026-01-13 20:10
Even better Level 95 is apparently free as well! :D
RPA2362026-01-13 07:06
If you can do Mavuika's advanced combos, her overload team is better than her melt team at lower levels of investment. The overload team has appeared far more frequently than the melt team in the low-cost leaderboards for Stygian, and it's arguably better in Abyss as well because of multi-wave. You can make the case that Mavuika overload is the best team in the game right now since it's so strong but doesn't take any heavily contested supports (Iansan and Chev are obviously very good but niche, and no one uses Ororon except Mavuika). I honestly wouldn't bother with melt unless Citlali is C2.
Grouchy_Gap452026-01-13 07:10
Cause it's easier to play and more braindead when you master the combos. That's the thing with mavuika, once you learned her combos you can't help but wanting to spam it everytime so people dont want to use melt that require you to time said combos. So instead the choose to further invest their mavuika to play her OL more often. And when they have the chance of playing against a hydro or cryo infused enemy, now the decide to play melt, because they can just spam the combo non stop
nghigaxx2026-01-13 08:19
no its not lol, its just lower cost (1 vs 2) so it go over the melt team every time when ranking runs, hence all the people going for the record spend more times doing the 1 cost clear rather than 2 cost
FloppyFish0002026-01-13 09:25
A 2 cost overload team is the same or better than 2 cost melt team too
IllustratorLast12812026-01-13 09:30
2 cost overload is mavuika c0r1 vs a c0r0 mavuika and weapons are in general just a worse investment in the long run
FloppyFish0002026-01-13 09:32
Yeah but its still about equal to a 2 cost melt team. Ideally ofc you go for c2 mavuika, but thats not what the discussion is about
nghigaxx2026-01-13 16:12
and a c6 4 stars on banner has an average 242 roll, equal to a c2 5 stars
FloppyFish0002026-01-13 16:14
Yes because you have to pull the 4* on exactly 1 banner and cant get them otherwise
nghigaxx2026-01-13 16:41
even if you spread them out it still equal to 1 5 stars, and not like they will be on the banner of chars you actually want. Even at 2 cost it wouldn't even be better since you are just playing c0r1 mav, melt let you make use of em substats as well so the more invested your artifact is the stronger it get compares to OL.
Also another reason you see OL Mavuika more so far is because there's a lot of shield enemies, and OL are most of the time better due to ororon. The fact that last season frost op has a shield that take dmg but specifically non reaction dmg only for example.
FloppyFish0002026-01-13 16:44
If you take last stygian you should know that overload did better against the lightkeeper as well (who doesnt have shields or anything preventing melt). And that wasnt a 1 cost clear, so you couldve played melt, but it just doesnt beat overload at low cost.
Also 4 stars arent comparable with 5 stars at all. If i wanted to pull varesa and xianyun, then there would be a decent chance at getting both c6 chevreuse and c6 iansan, despite not going for either of them specifically. Thats not the case with 5*s, thats why they arent comparable at all
nghigaxx2026-01-13 16:53
apart from the fact that OL let you stun him (the lie down animation) so that he doesn't teleporting everywhere?
Again, that is assuming you want to get varesa and xianyun, what happen when you don't. Apart from the shop 4 stars, other 4 stars are finnicky enough that getting them c6 usually mean 1 5\*.
tracer4b2026-01-13 09:44
A big part of it is also that you just haven’t been able to play the melt teams in Stygian even if you could bring Mavuika. Apart from the first cycle where Tulpa wanted you to bring Cryo
RPA2362026-01-13 10:01
The funny thing about that is the lowest cost team that beat Tulpa still ended up being Mavuika overload.
tracer4b2026-01-13 12:04
And it was before the advanced combos were discovered too, in 5.7 we were still doing CDN1.
If Tulpa reruns like Shocktrooper it better get ready to catch some improved hands
LetMetOucHyOURasS2026-01-13 07:30
The iktomisaurus kinda funny
Not only low cost, you also don't need to pull lol.
gsiaf2026-01-13 08:41
95 lvl mavuika is 9 cost(1 mav + 7 for c6 someone and + 1 for starglitter
Dougline2026-01-13 09:07
I have Skirk premium team (Escoffier C0R1, Furina C2R1, Shenhe C1R1, Skirk C0R1), but even if change their sets to get fucking 250% ER Escoffier (fav), 184% ER Furina (freedom sworn), 260% ER Shenhe (fav) and yet I still can't beat this MF at 1st floor...
The rotations and CDs simply don't align at all, even funneling all the energy, avoiding his electro energy steal hits etc, but the fucking bursts simply don't align with a good time to unleash Skirk's full combo or at least her burst fully buffed.
And my Nefer even with Lauma C1, simply can't do shit against him without Nahida.
I wish that the MF who thought it was a good idea to put a boss that has 3 ELEMENTAL SHIELDS to break that CAN'T PROC FAV on SO, I wish from the bottom of my soul that this MF stub his little toe at the corner of his bed, damned closed-eye rice eater.
FloppyFish0002026-01-13 09:28
You have to adjust your rotation based on the shields, there are probably guides you can look up to copy from, its part of the fun
Arc-D2026-01-13 10:02
>184% ER Furina (freedom sworn)
do one run with fav here. The other two dont need nearly that much er but its ok.
>damned closed-eye rice eater.
thats not nice. Maybe your eyes are closed too because you should be doing it first try
Dougline2026-01-13 10:38
Favs don't even proc over shields, so it would be a waste anyways on Furina and yes, they need as much ER as possible, otherwise even funneling particles, they won't have enough energy to burst before the Pyro shield, specially Escoffier.
Anyways, it's over already, so this MF can go fuck himself back into Abyss.
Arc-D2026-01-13 10:43
I did it with your team but less 5* weapons and no cons. You need to fav proc between shields. I was getting burst already on electro shield lol
awesomegamer9192026-01-13 11:33
The Baptist doesn’t shield right at the start of content, if you’re quick you can absolutely proc multiple fav weapons before he shields up.
FWIW I cleared Fearless comfortably with a Neuv Hyperbloom and Dire with Mona Skik Premium.
Dougline2026-01-13 12:30
I did, even Skirk's skill were used + 2 fav procs funneled to Furina before he got his first electro shield up and yet, it wasn't enough to recharge all their bursts in time.
Simoscivi2026-01-13 11:17
Sorry to disappoint you. But Furina REALLY needs at least 200% ER AND fav sword on stygian.
LiDragonLo2026-01-13 09:12
I remember someone telling me the baptist shills skirk more than it does nefer. Yet the pics u shared shows otherwise
tracer4b2026-01-13 09:42
Skirk is not as good at pushing cost down, her 4*s are weaker and her “full team” is already three 5\*s compared to two for Nefer
LiDragonLo2026-01-13 10:10
I'm also talking abt the fastest time clears as well
awesomegamer9192026-01-13 11:37
Skirk gets stuck on the hydro shield, even with Ayaka it takes a moment to clear.
ChampioN-One-42502026-01-13 09:15
Yoimiya my beloved. I too cleared the 2nd boss with Yoimiya but it was at fearless difficulty. Still feels really good to use my favorite characters in endgame.
Brilliant_Slide29992026-01-13 09:58
Imo cost system needs some corrections since time they started releasing more op 4 stars. Everyone knows how hard is it to get newer 4 star to c6 (or even just get c0/first power spike cons), that's already around 1 cost in terms of spent pulls if you get lucky, or even 2-3+ if not. They are also very op, like stronger than 70-80% of legendaries, coupled with their price that shouldn't be 0 cost. But anyway it's up to speedrun community to decide, if they're satisfied with their current system - that's ok. It's just funny to see how all c6 iansan, chevreuse and ororon team is considered 0 cost, while getting something like skirk premium team is actually easier and cheaper, and it's a 3 cost (not counting skirk).
Simoscivi2026-01-13 11:13
Probably the only dire stygian onslaught that will ever be clearable at only 2 cost across the board.
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The Aether (Geo) run is basically a variant of the Zhongli collision dmg cheese from last cycle, except we don't need Zhongli or Jean this time. Since fall damage is so readily available, I didn't include all the other runs where fall damage (or collision dmg etc.) made up over 50% of the damage contribution. Really you could've put Jean + Amber + Zhongli/GeoMC + your favourite character and put them on the board.
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Iniquitous Baptist: Resonant Wrath (10.9m HP) -
1. Mavuika (1 + Lv95) - Csw_伟 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1FgiMBLEwB/
2. Nefer (2) - 木村拓冶 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1qDqHBEEXV/
3. Skirk (3) - 黑の辉 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1vciEBwEY3/
Battle-Hardened Iktomisaurus: Frostbound Resolve (7.97m HP) -
1. Aether (Geo) (0) - 智乃不吃芹菜_ https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1iKvzBsEEb/
2. Venti (1) - JX67 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1CBqyBREsV/
3. Yoimiya (1 + Lv95) - 怀念个锤子 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV16bBgBoESw/
Experimental Field Generator: Extreme Potential (23.0m HP) -
1. Gaming (0) - 漪棘 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1R1B2BQEZ9/
2. Varesa (1) - MeiosisQWQ https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1PpmsBhEjR/
3. Mavuika (1) - CHiwenKi https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1q6vxB9EUx/
The collision trick with geo MC/Zhongli are completely legitimate and does not require any third party tool.
I'm always kind of mystified by what a player needs to be thinking about in Genshin to order to optimize fall damage. Like the [Wiki](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Fall_DMG) has a formula for it, but fps certainly doesn't show up in there. It must be part of velocity, but then that's just leaving the important part unsaid, since we then need to understand what optimizes velocity.
but very happy to see a yoi clear
until last night, where i had to clear it on other people account, maigod i was STRUGGLING, i spent like 4 hours until i eventually gave up and go with scuffed jean cheese comp, it was already 4 am and i dont know how to cheese with jean, so i just did small cheese where jean only did like extra 400k damage slam per flight, and still had to play the boss after each flight
anyway, at this point, i realized that, maybe the boss isn't as easy as i thought, and yoimiya was unironically a really good pick, felt quite vindicated when seeing this list lol
So you can just keep the DPS going despite the Iktomisaur flying around all over the place and out of range of meelee units.
Lyney **would** be good if not for the fact his CAs are way too slow and he can’t dodge easily while charging them up. His burst also isn’t like Amber’s who can apply a ton of pyro to break the shield.
I also did a Yoimiya clear on my alt, but because I needed Chev/Durin/Fischl for the Field Generator I wasn’t able to log her in my final clear (I also used Jean cheese).
I wish they made more 4* like Gaming, where at c6 they can clear hardest content but with good play and builds
Also some people were saying arle was better than mav vs generator at low cost(couldn't verify since both of mine were c2+ lol) but i guess that's not true if you know higher end mav combos
So they’re just normal plunging and since mav has her q + good steroids she’s the best one here?
This one is more normal doing bike plunge + combos. https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/s/vFk25vvvFL
I saw multiple 3rd boss clears with mav cit xilo benny and thought 'hey, i can replace xilo with kaz and replicate this'. And replicate i did. Same for 1st boss skirt team with shenhe>cit.
Cant do shit for the c6 4* though, their best replacement is themselves at lower cons, which just isnt enough. Them at c6 is more than a mainstat of increase ffs.
I also wanna go on a tangent and bemoan varesuh needing the two 4* to be relevant. It has screwed up banner rateups and other charas just have significantly weaker rateups lmao. Hopefully no future 5* is reliant on not just one, but two c6 4*. 250 pulls is no joke, you gotta spend 35% of pulls we get in a f2p cycle to get c6 4* lmao
Its like mav with trooper next patch- players doing combos poorly will still get it because of c6 chevy and iansan
Using r5 hook and consider it 0 cost where using wolf Gravestone will be 1 cost.
Then there is constellation abuse which is considered 1 cost where a C2 5* dps alone(with 4stars) can out dps a full C0 R1 team of 8 cost using only 2 cost. ( This cycle SO was easy so it was not used)
The low cost speed runners generally have all characters C2 and use the ones required for the cycle with other 4 star showing low cost run. (We have seen this in previous cycles)
Pulling a C2 5* dps to brute force through checks is a valid solution the same as pulling for three different C0 5\*s. There's no point calling it "abuse" if it actually works to clear the hardest content, which it does
Pulling a C2 character is not a valid solution for most accounts as when the cycle changes and your character is not suitable for the stage (you also have less characters overall) forget about dire you will have difficulty clearing fearless.
I don't have any issue with the speedruns and speedrunners themselves.Within the rules of the speedrun they are doing the best. What I'm saying it doesn't translate to people who are looking to clear dire. So unless there is a change in cost calculation it's not helpful to a broader audience. The entire point of which costs what is useless(until it reflects general accounts) as rules can be made anything for a speedrun category. (4 star characters and weapons are not free as well they require pulls and specially the banner weapons are harder to get than 5 stars)
and Dire is definitely not for a "broader audience" lol, it's the highest level of endgame
Cons are not always required for dire clear. There are plenty of people clearing Dire with C0R1 teams which are actually the "low cost" runs that can help people clear using similar teams. Not this misleading speedrun category. Getting a R1 weapon is way easier than r5 serpent spine/hook or any other BP/banner exclusives.
and I don't get how getting a R1 is easier than r5 battle pass weapons when they're guaranteed once you pay and it's every patch, while R1 has the constraints of being non-guaranteed or you may not have enough pulls for guaranteed (usually you pull characters first), and it may take a while for rerun lol
Now if you look at F2P/ welkin players very few go for battle pass or constellation. Mostly they pull for C0 or at most R1.
Having enough damage on your carry so you can power through the restriction, or being able to add characters to your team that break the mechanic while still having enough damage to clear, is also a strategy that works. Every cycle you hear about Mavuika and Skirk brute forcing anything but that’s mainly because they have the power to do that at C0. If you get your carry to say C2 and your damage matches that, then it’s the same idea.
And indeed there are lots of clears with C2 Kinich, C2 Varesa etc on a lot of the dire bosses so far, that I can’t show here bc it doesn’t match this category
and that certainly does not " cover all types of scenarios "
Pulling a broken c2 pretty much guarantees 1/3 can be brut forced with sufficient skills. And if you are lucky it might even be a better if there is a good 4 star on the banner .
It is ONLY useful for speedrunning categorization because there is not other realistic standard to set or follow (or no one has tried to successfully make one at least). But if you're not speedrunning and specifically competing with other speedrunners using that system, it's literally a worthless system to follow and to talk about.
Also another reason you see OL Mavuika more so far is because there's a lot of shield enemies, and OL are most of the time better due to ororon. The fact that last season frost op has a shield that take dmg but specifically non reaction dmg only for example.
Also 4 stars arent comparable with 5 stars at all. If i wanted to pull varesa and xianyun, then there would be a decent chance at getting both c6 chevreuse and c6 iansan, despite not going for either of them specifically. Thats not the case with 5*s, thats why they arent comparable at all
Again, that is assuming you want to get varesa and xianyun, what happen when you don't. Apart from the shop 4 stars, other 4 stars are finnicky enough that getting them c6 usually mean 1 5\*.
If Tulpa reruns like Shocktrooper it better get ready to catch some improved hands
Not only low cost, you also don't need to pull lol.
The rotations and CDs simply don't align at all, even funneling all the energy, avoiding his electro energy steal hits etc, but the fucking bursts simply don't align with a good time to unleash Skirk's full combo or at least her burst fully buffed.
And my Nefer even with Lauma C1, simply can't do shit against him without Nahida.
I wish that the MF who thought it was a good idea to put a boss that has 3 ELEMENTAL SHIELDS to break that CAN'T PROC FAV on SO, I wish from the bottom of my soul that this MF stub his little toe at the corner of his bed, damned closed-eye rice eater.
do one run with fav here. The other two dont need nearly that much er but its ok.
>damned closed-eye rice eater.
thats not nice. Maybe your eyes are closed too because you should be doing it first try
Anyways, it's over already, so this MF can go fuck himself back into Abyss.
FWIW I cleared Fearless comfortably with a Neuv Hyperbloom and Dire with Mona Skik Premium.
Come on, knock Mav out of a boss for once :)