OUR FRONTLINE SOLDIERS

Let's take a look at Nod-Krai's vanguard warriors.

Blasphemy against death? Sure, why not

Heretic of the false moon? They'll be there

Other nations' militaries QUIVER at the thought of going against them

Commentaires

Salter_KingofBorgors2026-01-14 22:17

Honestly I think they took the criticism thay Hydro Traveler was doing absolutely nothing against Rerir and learned from it

Lazy-Traffic53462026-01-14 22:59

I hope you don't think they make new patch right every 6 weeks and change it depending on people reaction

Salter_KingofBorgors2026-01-15 00:03

Thats exactly why I think they changed it. It was so out of nowhere. 'Oh here have way better hydro application'. Definitely something they fixed last minute

Perfect_Ad83932026-01-15 01:01

Yeah like that is such an easy change that has no narrative impact, it wouldn't take months or years of planning for that change to be made. Of course, it may not have been player reactions that made them add it, maybe they just realized it themselves and made the change.

Salter_KingofBorgors2026-01-15 01:01

Thats fair.

herminihildo2026-01-15 04:09

Pretty sure the internal testers bitched and moaned about it during the Rerir fight testing.

Nuka-Crapola2026-01-15 10:50

If they didn’t, it can only mean they dropped that fight untested, because… yeah. It wasn’t some obscure interaction only one team had, or something that didn’t matter on lower difficulties against the exact same enemies, or anything else that one could imagine being missed in testing because QA didn’t think they had to do *every possible combination* of characters/multipliers/etc. and it turns out they did.

It was a fixed difficulty encounter with a fixed party. Everyone saw the issue.

Lazy-Traffic53462026-01-15 11:31

You getting double attack only at the end of act 8

SecretSpectre112026-01-14 22:33

"Lend me some hydro, Aino, this is a base abyss monster we're up against!"

bob_is_best2026-01-15 02:00

Aino being the backbone of all the dps is insane (for f2ps anyway)

thisbigdiamond2026-01-15 03:14

plus her being the only other hydro NK character means if u wanna have 2 nod krai dps she's gunna have to go on one of them.

MaleQueef2026-01-15 13:12

Insane as well since that means they can still milk out one more hydro character to compete for Aino.

A full lunar abyss shilling and you still need Aino preferably for ease of team comps.

Kaiel14122026-01-14 23:11

I wish the devs forgot to remove Aino's burst from HMC and called it a day

its not like players are actually using HMC anyway

Oapekay2026-01-15 00:20

Honestly if HMC kept the duck, I’d probably use them, and I never use any Traveler, let alone Hydro. That felt like very comfortable Hydro application.

floricel_1122026-01-15 09:47

I personally like alternating between geo, dendro and pyro travelers. They all feel really nice to use.

I'd probably use anemo too if I didn't already have too many anemos

AmethystMoon4202026-01-15 12:28

The HMC during Dottore's story fight was so cool too! I wish we got that afterwards 🥲 It had the hydro slashes (like how PMC does during the Gosoythoth weekly) and a fast-paced multi-hit skill that's way better than what we have now.

caucassius2026-01-15 00:52

can I keep cool your jet ducky for my hydro mc pretty please?

Icy-Manufacturer73192026-01-15 03:03

too op... move other character burst to skill and got no cooldown🤣

Korbiter2026-01-15 01:03

Okay, but the kid, at like 12 years old (at most) constfucted freaking STONEHENGE for $2.99 and a pop tart.

Like she alone could build several weapons of mass destruction by the time she's 18, throwing the entire continent into never ending war from Kuuvakhi powered Gleipnirs and Natlan Source Engine-d Super Fighters

Luster-Purge2026-01-15 03:10

For those confused, this referring to Ace Combat 7 where an array of gigantic railguns were built to shoot a meteor (and in the game takes down a flying Metal Gear) and not the ancient sundial in Europe.

Chikapu_Sempaii2026-01-15 05:55

God, I love the Stonehenge mission.

Korbiter2026-01-15 06:10

*Which* Stonehenge Mission

Edit: oops, OP said AC7, so it'll be Stonehenge Defensive
Tbf, All missions with Stonehenge are awesome

floricel_1122026-01-15 09:50

Stonehenge first appeared in Ace combat 4. Play or watch Ace combat 4. It has a base capable of bringing down meteors as its final mission

Asleep_Weekend42662026-01-15 06:53

Since I watched Elemental Warfare, I would be interested to see Ace Pilot Furina and her Rafale against Mihaly Dumitru Margarita Corneliu Leopold Blanka Carol Aeon Ignatius Rafael Maria Niketas A. Shilage.

Korbiter2026-01-15 07:12

....why do I hear ***Latin*** music???

Asleep_Weekend42662026-01-15 07:19

I-Is it in the sky? Oh.. oh fuck... IT'S IN THE DAMN SEA!

Asleep_Weekend42662026-01-15 07:20

ALL C.R.I.G (Elemental Warfare) UNITS TRACK THAT DAMN SUB DOWN!

Asleep_Weekend42662026-01-15 06:54

Nah, I feel like Aino's weapon is like Estovakia's Chandelier to me since one cannon.

*Ages pass..*

*Snow falls...*

Korbiter2026-01-15 07:11

But Chandelier is fixed to its platform, and its the platform that moves.

The Nasha Town cannon is turreted, and it serves the same role as Stonehenge storywise as well (originally designed for beneficial purposes, co-opted for neferious ones)

m_reigl2026-01-15 09:15

... I think this is the one situation where spelling is important, nefarious purposes (doing evil) and neferious purposes (blasting people who are mean to Jahoda) are different things.

floricel_1122026-01-15 09:51

Not exactly "Stonehenge". More like an 8th of it and magic powered instead of the beautiful science of railguns (my beloved)

Cocogoat_Main2026-01-15 01:31

CYJ-DUCKY MENTIONED
# LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

KaedeP_222026-01-15 04:12

Mfw Aino-bot is needed because hydro traveler simply suck balls. I'll never understand fontaine writers and combat designers.

San-Kyu2026-01-15 04:37

For as low effort HSR is when it comes to presentation (it's probably in its Inazuma period), I absolutely love that their MC is basically one of the top meta options starting from their 2nd form/element (we're at the 4th, with the 5th coming in the next 1-2 updates) .

Like you have several 5* characters there whose biggest pull argument at times is just "they free up the slot so your Trailblazer can be x form on another team". They don't have a dedicated DPS form yet, they've always been supports with some damage potential, but the functional meta equivalent of HSR's TB is roughly Citlali for Mavuika, Esc9 for Skirk, or Lauma for Nefer, they're that good. I wish the Traveler was up to the same levels of in-game power.

BladeSingularity2026-01-15 05:16

Meanwhile I’m over here refusing to take my TB off of Harmony (for my Firefly team) even though Remembrance is arguably broken as all hell. And we’ll see how strong the new path version will be… if it’s as good as the last one, I’m gonna be in trouble.

GeneralZhukov2026-01-15 10:10

Its a give and take because HSR also releases 2 banners per patch and atp most if not all of the 4\*s and old or standard banner units have been entirely phased out of the meta, and newer ones *will* eventually get phased out. Plus LCs are far more of an upgrade in HSR than they are in Genshin. Plus no Fav.

They ***need*** to give out a good welfare unit once in a while or more casual f2p players that don't do any research and plan pulls will struggle a bit too much for player retention.

In Genshin, your welfare units are Bennett/Sucrose/Xingqiu/Fischl. Old as fuck so a lot of people will have them maxed. Pretty common on banners. In the monthly shop. Top of the meta outside of XQ. Thats the f2p lifeline--the TB equivalent in that sense. Shittier welfare units, but your first batch of supports are still top of the meta 5 years in vs strong welfare units that just end up power crept anyway; Ratio was also free and strong at the time remember?

There's no real difference. Every successful gacha system is meticulously designed to keep the standard f2p player that wants to do well enough in end game *just* strong enough to make them feel like pulling one more unit/constellation will push them over the edge, while not making the free shit so strong that they feel no incentive to pull. And, well HSR and Genshin are both undeniably successful.

I will say, the shitty welfare units in Genshin are at least valuable cheerleaders in IT. Auto equip an unleveled Scrolls set on your free C0 Kachina, maybe give her a Fav lance, and she's already at 95% power + is a decent pull if you get her from a companion card. I kind of wish one of HSR's 3 endgame modes made the increasing number of worthless fodder units useful the way IT does. Do we need 3 (AA gives no pulls so I don't count it as a real mode, its just a for-fun thing to me) different flavors of "AV manipulation, the gamemode?" Idk I'd prefer some variant of CW that replaces PF, which is sort of...just shitty lol. MoC is the vanilla, AS gets all the new boss mechanics that vary from interesting (1v1 Hoolay) to egregious shill, PF is just lame. They throw the Ruan Mei Beetle or the brainrot monkeys in MoC whenever they're shilling an AoE unit anyway.

New-Button-24432026-01-16 07:39

not that i disagree with all of this, but pretty much most of my Genshin characters are also useless fodder. people always bring up Bennett/XQ/Fischl/Sucrose and yeah they're great, but pretty much everyone that surrounds them and released within the next 2 years are next to useless for me.

even in the most recent IT where my roster is strongest (pyro/hydro/electro) out of the entire selection, my older units (Raiden, Yae, Ayato, Keqing, Childe, Yoi, Diluc) all pretty much just sat as a 4th slot deadweight while my actually viable units carry them with a 3 man comp (Hu Tao, Varesa, post-buff Venti, Mualani, Neuvi) or even a 1 man comp in Neuvi's sense.

IT doesn't make me feel like my characters are being used, it makes me realize how many of them are absolute dead weight that i only bring on because the theater requires me to have 4 units at all times. it's pyro season and i didn't even bring my triple crowned Xinyan because she's just worthless. the trial Mavuika did the highest damage in the entire IT because powercreep on her level is just insane compared to my relatively okay investment units.

like do i think IT is a better use of old characters than the likes of CW? yeah, cause if i didn't have my characters in CW i would just get to use a trial version anyway. they suck, and because it's not a real endgame mode i don't really lose anything even if they do, but is that so much worse than IT when im just dragging them along for the ride because the mode is made so easy due to it being made with non-standard team comps in mind?

aebinafan2026-01-15 05:12

We were robbed lmaoz. THat hydro traveller kit in the final battle and burst animation, like wtf they were thinking when making it temporary, i would take that hydro traveller and burst animation over what we got any day. 🤦

S_Demon2026-01-15 10:29

I thought the final buff Bina gives us may update HMC too. Welp.

Lorellya2026-01-15 05:37

Stupid ahh dogahh hydro MC forced ahh, thank you so much Aino for the ducky thing, the real mc.

Malixhous2026-01-15 06:26

"Oopy Goopy, General Munckin Man, Lil Jim Bob, and Larry" ahh line up right there

Royal_empress_azu2026-01-15 07:08

They really stood on business until the tend.

beratbayram2026-01-15 09:51

Aino effortlessly carried

Adventurous_Cash_6352026-01-15 11:03

Yeah I was talking to a friend how Varka is such an idiot. He sends the hot girls to the front while he stays back doing nothing. Such a fake.

Bashoopa2026-01-15 14:29

I laughed out loud when I got to that part. Hydro Traveler being so useless as an applicator that they had to give them a robot to not feel like deadweight was hilarious.

I'm glad! I guess there was enough backlash from the Rerir fight for them to change things.