Dottore is also a lore skipper. If he played any world quests, he would have seen this coming a mile away.
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Tschmelz2026-01-14 23:47
For such an intelligent guy, he sure is an idiot.
WootzieDerp2026-01-15 03:31
To be fair, Dottore didn't give a shit about Traveller backstabbing him. He was so far up his ass, he thought he was invincible at that point.
Rain-Maker332026-01-15 04:12
Yeah, he is aware of emotions and the bonds between people but he would rather be willfully ignorant of what they mean to people than acknowledge their weight.
IlliasTallin2026-01-15 06:21
Because to him self-reliance is paramount. You are nothing if you cant earn your achievements on your own.
nanimeanswhat2026-01-15 09:45
If my parents named me heretic and everyone treated me as an outcast I would also rely on myself only.
einUbermensch2026-01-15 00:18
Specifically his understanding of people is ... uh ... "flawed". He sincerely beliefs that if a transaction has the most value everyone will always choose it. I'm not sure if psychopath or Sociopath describes him best but his whole world view is based on it so for him it was "obvious" the Traveler would accept because he offers the most value. That he is a murderous and amoral douche while our Traveler is ... not, which might be kinda a damper on his plan, is not something he really considered it seems ... or thought so foolish he disregarded it because in his mind "the great descender wouldn't be so foolish".
At least that is how I understood it.
Stormer23452026-01-15 01:45
He seems to represent a form of egoism. His worldview seems to be shaped by Max Stirner’s ethical egoism, and the way he acts towards the Traveller seems to be motivated by that along with psychological egoism.
Adomics2026-01-15 02:15
He understood moral aspect, and tried to persuade the Traveller into abandoning his morals, or give him time to abandon them. Anyway, it could theoretically work in like, a few years at least, don't know why he thought the Travelled is gonna abandon them in 10 seconds.
RipBitter47012026-01-15 05:03
tbf time move different in his dome, i think he is planning to trap traveler indefinitely until they agree with him
AncientAd49962026-01-15 05:43
That too. I distinctly remembered that there was 1 point where Traveler was blacked out for just a couple scenes, but then it's revealed he suspended then for an entire month???
The representation seemed fast, but Dottore might've actually been taking his sweet time with us narratively
Kidkaboom12026-01-15 06:53
It could also be he just plain lied. He'd do that kind of thing.
lleeiiiizzii2026-01-15 02:56
I think it's the latter. He definitely understands that normal people consider moral and emotional aspects on top of pure transactional benefits. But he just doesn't care at all and thinks it's beneath the more "advanced" beings such as himself and the traveler. So he wanted to "intellectually" persuade us to abandon the lowly human attachments.
Nuka-Crapola2026-01-15 04:51
Yeah, that’s my take too… which, if we’re sticking to outdated psychological terms, would fall firmly under “sociopath”. As my old psych professor put it: “Psychopaths get a worse reputation, because when they make the news it’s for more dramatic crime. But sociopaths are more dangerous, because they know how to play the game, and it *is* just a game to them, so you won’t notice them until it’s too late.”
I mean, obviously that quote doesn’t fully apply to Dottore since he’s given up on “playing the game”. But he’s too good of a manipulator to say her doesn’t *understand* it, which is what the dividing line was.
lleeiiiizzii2026-01-15 05:40
Yeah he's definitely manipulative. I'm surprised they wrote him as such an outwardly sociopathic villain (I only completedthe first of the two archon quests btw). Just a few days ago I was debating with someone who insisted that the game needs to be explicit about good and wrong and we should judge the gods; saying they have a different moral standards don't cut it etc etc. Now Dottore himself is debating the question with me (or telling me) again lol.
Amaterrasu9992026-01-17 22:11
Sociopathy and psychopathy are sides of a one coin. The coin is a Antisocial personality disorder. It's modern diagnosis.
Overall_Astronaut_332026-01-15 17:04
Even if you see it from purely transactional side, working with Dottore is far from being healthy for you, you don't "work with" or even "work for" Dottore, you are his experiment, his petri dish, his variables, he is going to dump you when you are out of use for him, just look at his subordinate, which is why i laugh when he equate working with him like working the Captain, Arlecchino or even Sandrone.
him trying to play into his preceived Traveler's recklesness and trying to manipulate Traveler to abandon his own journey, cease his tedious process and struggle while saying he can reunite him immediately with his sister is the second funniest to me, i really want Traveler to call on his bullsh*t especially since for a researcher like him, process is everything, all scientifics breakthrough are coming from long and tedious process, making hypothesis, counting all variables, preparing and conducting experiments based on said variables and making an observation of the result, him trying to stop Traveler's own process is him saying Traveler should handed over all of the process to him for doing his bidding.
Korbiter2026-01-15 03:06
Yeag, he literally thought it would be a conversation 'from one lonely god to another'.
He didn't think the Traveler would be bound down by simple tribal desires and mentality. And when Dottore started to realize, he *actually* believed he could 'fix us' of that.
TetraNeuron2026-01-15 11:23
Dottore looking at Traveller: I can fix them
Alrubirea2026-01-15 05:04
In my own view, I think Dottore is just really desperate lol (Okay but I see a merit to what youre saying)
IlliasTallin2026-01-15 06:19
More Sociopath than psychopath. As the traveler noted several times, Dottore is actually right about a lot of things which would exempt him from the term psychopath.
Dottore sees things in terms of "worth/value/etc" which is spot on for how sociopaths tend to view relationships.
Overall_Astronaut_332026-01-15 17:04
Even if you see it from purely transactional side, working with Dottore is far from being healthy for you, you don't "work with" or even "work for" Dottore, you are his experiment, his petri dish, his variables, he is going to dump you when you are out of use for him, just look at his subordinate, which is why i laugh when he equate working with him like working the Captain, Arlecchino or even Sandrone.
him trying to play into his preceived Traveler's recklesness and trying to manipulate Traveler to abandon his own journey, cease his tedious process and struggle while saying he can reunite him immediately with his sister is the second funniest to me, i really want Traveler to call on his bullsh*t especially since for a researcher like him, process is everything, all scientifics breakthrough are coming from long and tedious process, making hypothesis, counting all variables, preparing and conducting experiments based on said variables and making an observation of the result, him trying to stop Traveler's own process is him saying Traveler should handed over all of the process to him for doing his bidding.
Electronic_Grass_1412026-01-15 20:27
And the ultimate irony is that if he acted like a normal human being, he would have gotten what he wanted.
Columbina was attached to Dottore, if she had sympathies with her he could have created the artificial moon and become a God, with Columbina happy with her Frost Moon.
But no, he went full psychopath.
I liked how they cooked in this AQ.
Amaterrasu9992026-01-17 22:10
Same
CapableTear17642026-01-15 02:50
Dottore after finding out about what Traveller did in the Jeht quests: ...my calculations may have been off...
BulbasaurTreecko2026-01-15 05:50
Dottore: Wouldn’t you love to be able to kill people whenever you want?
Traveler: Who says I can’t already?
HeroDeleterA2026-01-15 07:35
"Been there. Done that. And I was just doing side quests. You haven't seen me locked in face to face for the main quests yet."
Erulogos2026-01-15 09:36
Traveler: I do kill people whenever I want, the world is just lucky I don't often find it worth the effort.
hardy_832026-01-16 02:38
Traveller: You know how many cursed Khaenri'ans I've killed just for their trinkets? Knowing that they were all human and many are children!?
Mad_Kitten2026-01-15 09:08
"The risk I took was calculated"
ItsWithAQsir2026-01-15 19:14
"But apparently I'm bad at math, explains why I'm a Sumeru dropout"
komandos452026-01-15 11:49
Well term Hero is quite fluid, and isn't invalidated by slaughtering whole tribe.
You can be a hero for someone while at same time breaking all Geneva convention
Ladies_Pls_DM_nudes2026-01-15 12:07
Didn't we wipe out an entire clan for shits and giggles in inazuma? Like those Iwakura chumps?
DungeonEnvy2026-01-15 17:53
For shits and giggles? They attacked US first
And, they had primogems. Completely justified extermination campaign
afflictushydrus2026-01-15 12:54
"Having a will that rivals the world" may or may not equate to "I don't really mind butchering the whole world"
masternieva6662026-01-15 15:12
Yeah Traveller is a good boy in archon quest but when it comes to story quest we are a fuck up individual. If i remember we even kill a entire clan in Inazuma and in Sumeru for primo
cjcduck172026-01-15 03:07
Traveler: “I’ve killed people for less, you don’t know SHIT”
PuffinRex2026-01-15 06:16
"I hunted down and erased an entire bloodline in inazuma for 20 primogems."
floricel_1122026-01-15 09:40
"I helped a fontainian woman lead her father into the woods to kill him"
Ishigami_Kirya_9172026-01-15 11:37
Wait, what WQ is this? It's been a while since I've done Fontaine stuff
floricel_1122026-01-15 12:11
The Leroy quest line. The woman's name is Autumn
Ishigami_Kirya_9172026-01-15 13:08
Ah now I remember. I picked the option to have him killed the moment it showed up. That man was really a horrible dude
mlodydziad4202026-01-15 09:53
Imagine if Dottore broke the 4th wall and just offered 160000 primos. Traveler would fold in no time
AstarothTheJudge2026-01-15 11:37
That's how pantalone Will try to break us
utsu312026-01-15 03:08
This line of the traveler is so corny bro. He really thought it would sound tuff or something.
"Guess I'm no hero"
- Accomplice in the end of the Tanit and good friend of groomers and colonizers btw
Murky_Blueberry26172026-01-15 04:25
Traveller's been corny. They were better when they did'nt speak at all
TheFool062026-01-15 04:44
That's the point right? the Traveler is not a hero.
utsu312026-01-15 13:10
Yeah he just brought it in such a cringe way.
Like "guess I'm no hero" yeah no shit dude it took you long enough to figure that out. Like wdym guess???
aebinafan2026-01-15 04:57
Is this slander ?? If then ok but are you just gonna ignore that tanit tribe tried to kill him like 20 times in desert?? And even then traveller tried to reason with them before they went after jeht and whole tribe attacked traveller when he confronted them about it. That is literally forcing hands.
He was not the one begging dottore to join his side lmao. If anything dottore fangirling over him was more cringe. Traveller just gave answered him a language that he understands the most after denying him like 200 times over months period.
ShikikanSpineal2026-01-15 03:26
For someone who yaps soo much ,dottore says surprisingly little,
" basically im bored , everything is beneath me"
Rain-Maker332026-01-15 04:09
Also, "I am so special. Treat me like it!!!! Wahh!!"
HarbingerOfGachaHell2026-01-15 07:58
Really hope Tsaritsa to give him a humble pill.
floricel_1122026-01-15 09:40
How far into the quest are you?
Feen1842026-01-15 04:35
This is how I felt the entire quest bro kidnaps us to do nothing but brag hey look I’m a god now.
Not to mention the massive pick me energy he kept giving of the entire quest
renhiyama2026-01-15 07:02
"whatever columbina can do, I can do better!"
TetraNeuron2026-01-15 11:23
Traveller: Turn into a cute girl, now!
renhiyama2026-01-15 11:26
I can give you even better girls, just join me on my path to godhood, and my new universe will be for yours to weave. Come traveller, join my side.
Lubinski642026-01-15 11:48
[Like that legendary discord conversation](https://youtu.be/s1U3wbCthlI?si=HHyw_qMrBiIK6qaT)
Ashk0p052026-01-15 13:02
In his boss fight, he basically turns into a yandere after trapping the gang in his dimension.
Amaterrasu9992026-01-17 22:12
Same
lawlianne2026-01-15 03:41
The real Dottore already left and is bing chilling under another tree. This clueless one we fought was just one of his god experiments he wanted to see flourish on their own.
Matty1Ben2026-01-15 04:55
true that, i fear the day he scorches irminsul..I'll be up in arms against him to protect Nahida at the very least
Ulti-Wolf2026-01-15 06:31
Honestly, as someone who wants to see more of this jackass doing horrendous shit, I like this idea. I'd like Dottore being a reoccurring threat, at least to get more lore out of him
R_N_G_G2026-01-15 08:44
I don’t see how at bare minimum he didn’t have control over space and didn’t make a clone or two. “Clones are an expensive and time consuming process “ bro had an abundance of both of those.
Kaiel14122026-01-15 04:02
all he had to do is offer primos
Rare_Marionberry7822026-01-15 04:21
Actually, was it ever explained why the Doctor insist the traveller join him? What was his purpose for spending that much time negotiating with us and giving us 2 chances before snapping his fingers?
_DestroyerX2026-01-15 04:30
He probably wanted the Descender’s natural trait to defy fate. Despite having the trilunar authority, he’s still bounded by Teyvat’s fate.
Or he wanted the knowledge of other worlds. He did say a scholar would get tired of studying everything in Teyvat or something along those lines.
masternieva6662026-01-15 07:35
Yeah Dottore might want a descender as a allie since they are not affected by irminsul maybe this is where Dottore will decide its tome to burn the irminsul.
TetraNeuron2026-01-15 11:26
I think they wanted Traveller's body to safely contain the moon marrows
* They were doing animal x human body swaps. Probably testing if swaps can survive if there is a huge power difference, i.e. a Descender x Puppet swap
* Traveller's body can contain the moon marrow no issues
* Dottore's segments/puppets are based on Scaramouche, who does have canon limits - Scaramouche cried when Ei originally tried putting the Electro Gnosis in him, so he probably can't contain a Moon Marrow without discomfort
pontus5552026-01-15 14:18
Thats..... actual lunacy, which makes it a very possible theory.
TheFool062026-01-15 04:47
He wants the Descender Perk being not bound by fate because Dottore even with the power or the moons is still bound by Teyvat's Rule, Law, & Fate.
Rare_Marionberry7822026-01-15 04:52
Ah I see, thanks
aebinafan2026-01-15 05:01
Dottore is trying to create and become a god of new world. But any world or civilization is doomed to die without a descender, therefore he tried to recruit a descender in advance so his project won't hit a roadblock. That's all.
Rene and allain also tried to create the world formula but everytime they calculated it resulted in total destruction that was until Rene added a descender to equation( he tried to became a descender but was defeated by traveller). That's the same reason sandrone jumped to save him too. Her world formula also required a descender, if he is dead, both plans won't work.
Rare_Marionberry7822026-01-15 09:49
Great explanation thank you 🙏🏻
masternieva6662026-01-15 15:16
I wonder if he wants traveller dna so he can create a segment with similar body compositions as the travellers so he can live for a long time .
RipBitter47012026-01-15 05:05
bruh you might be the reason why shaoji wrote Charmony doves and Allegory of the Cave in HSR
Icy-Complaint31262026-01-15 05:05
The experiment he does is swaping soul to another body. Imo he want a Descender body to overcome fate itself.
survivorr123_2026-01-15 05:38
well, as stated previously in narzissenkreuz quests and by sandrone in the current one, a descender is required to change the worlds fate, and was a crucial part of the world formula, dottore most likely knew this,
the other thing is that he just wanted to see what a descender would be capable of with access to such power, villian trying to persuade the mc to get more powerful together and rule the world is pretty common in movies
floricel_1122026-01-15 09:43
He said something along the lines of "I know that one day I'll grow bored of Teyvat", so my best guess is he wanted the traveler for their ship and knowledge of other worlds
Lubinski642026-01-15 11:51
For study, like Columbina and Wanderer before.
herminihildo2026-01-15 04:27
Varka: College dropout, amirite?
Flimsy-Writer602026-01-15 06:55
"Insert Chad and Soyjack meme"
afflictushydrus2026-01-15 12:54
Imaging dropping out of college and still having the balls to call yourself a doctor
TrainPregnator2026-01-15 16:01
Fake it till you make it
Johnkovan_Jones2026-01-15 04:41
Mofo dumped all his stats in intelligence but zero in wisdom.
IlliasTallin2026-01-15 06:23
No points in Charisma either
pontus5552026-01-15 13:58
I mean, he has to have at least 1 or 2 points in it.
Otherwise, what else could explain the Dottore Glazers in r/FatuiHQ?
IlliasTallin2026-01-15 15:44
In their own words, Dottore was their "last hope" for the Fatui to remain badass and relevant to the plot.
KineticKurt2026-01-15 04:43
Traveler can be Moral Gray, if not Morally Light Gray; Rosaria may possibly be gray, while Arlecchino is pretty much dark gray
AlkaliPineapple2026-01-15 06:39
A hero can be good and do bad things at the same time. Traveler is much more of a do gooder than just "morally light grey". Their worse acts are done in empathy of another person or in self defense.
floricel_1122026-01-15 09:41
You can help a woman lead her father into the woods to kill him, not stop it and just walk away from it
Infernalkrappa2026-01-15 15:10
That questline was pretty wild but interesting ngl
imbusthul2026-01-15 04:47
I think this Dottore is the one with the most ego. He definitely made some segments
coffeeaddictfromcebu2026-01-15 04:53
Considering the things we've done to Bennett as a "ritual" to get our limited 5-star like jumping off Bartobas' statue, then yes, we are not heroes.
AceAzzemen2026-01-15 04:56
I was actually surprised he got angry, for all his talk about him being more mature than that and our attack seemed to be more of an inconvenience than threat at the time
BigBoss828912026-01-15 06:11
Because we proved him wrong. That simple. He thinks he got everyone figured out because he's such genius and everything he did turned out exactly what he expected. That is of course until he made the mistake of pissing the traveler. For all his genius, he forgot the one fundamental thing that humanity will do to great lengths, a reason to fight...or hate. And he gave the traveler one. A descender, a being capable of defying the fate of any world or it's inhabitants that they come across. His godhood means nothing to such a being and said being absolutely hates your guts and will do everything end you.
PhotojournalistJust72026-01-15 09:14
yeah,those kind of people tend to bite off more than they can chew for example:signiora in inazuma quest.
tanama_2026-01-15 15:30
For all that Dottore trieas to present himself as someone with a utilitarian view of the world and who's cracked down on the fact that all humans are inherently motivated by egoism, he's actually a deeply emotional chud himself lol. He spends the whole time basically begging the Traveler to join him and invoking this "I can do everything better than your allies so come with me" vibe. He was mad because in being caught up with his delusions of grandeur finally being fulfilled through artificial godhood, he forgot the Traveler's moral code and love for those he calls friends supercedes whatever Hannibal-rant Dottore thought he had going on
TANKER_SQUAD2026-01-15 05:12
Dude can't even stay in school, of course he's a lore skipper.
Confident_River_35832026-01-15 05:56
Honestly, this feels spot on. So much of this was already laid out in world quests and background lore, so if you were paying attention, it wasn’t hard to see coming. It just hits harder when it finally plays out on screen.
Doodle_Army_362026-01-15 07:58
We are not gonna ignore the near extinction of local wildlife in every region the traveller has visited? Coincidence? I think not!
Efficient-Ad80842026-01-15 08:13
Off topic
Please help! Dottore domain is not showing for me. Also the quick play is not showing.
floricel_1122026-01-15 09:45
If you did the archon quests, what worked for me was to activate the statues. The map illuminated and it revealed Dottore's domain
Aackland2026-01-15 11:41
that was such a cold line, I loved it
AmethystMoon4202026-01-15 12:24
Me during this whole quest: "DOTTORE DOESNT KNOW ABOUT THE IWAKURA CLAN"
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At least that is how I understood it.
The representation seemed fast, but Dottore might've actually been taking his sweet time with us narratively
I mean, obviously that quote doesn’t fully apply to Dottore since he’s given up on “playing the game”. But he’s too good of a manipulator to say her doesn’t *understand* it, which is what the dividing line was.
him trying to play into his preceived Traveler's recklesness and trying to manipulate Traveler to abandon his own journey, cease his tedious process and struggle while saying he can reunite him immediately with his sister is the second funniest to me, i really want Traveler to call on his bullsh*t especially since for a researcher like him, process is everything, all scientifics breakthrough are coming from long and tedious process, making hypothesis, counting all variables, preparing and conducting experiments based on said variables and making an observation of the result, him trying to stop Traveler's own process is him saying Traveler should handed over all of the process to him for doing his bidding.
He didn't think the Traveler would be bound down by simple tribal desires and mentality. And when Dottore started to realize, he *actually* believed he could 'fix us' of that.
Dottore sees things in terms of "worth/value/etc" which is spot on for how sociopaths tend to view relationships.
him trying to play into his preceived Traveler's recklesness and trying to manipulate Traveler to abandon his own journey, cease his tedious process and struggle while saying he can reunite him immediately with his sister is the second funniest to me, i really want Traveler to call on his bullsh*t especially since for a researcher like him, process is everything, all scientifics breakthrough are coming from long and tedious process, making hypothesis, counting all variables, preparing and conducting experiments based on said variables and making an observation of the result, him trying to stop Traveler's own process is him saying Traveler should handed over all of the process to him for doing his bidding.
Columbina was attached to Dottore, if she had sympathies with her he could have created the artificial moon and become a God, with Columbina happy with her Frost Moon.
But no, he went full psychopath.
I liked how they cooked in this AQ.
Traveler: Who says I can’t already?
You can be a hero for someone while at same time breaking all Geneva convention
And, they had primogems. Completely justified extermination campaign
"Guess I'm no hero"
- Accomplice in the end of the Tanit and good friend of groomers and colonizers btw
Like "guess I'm no hero" yeah no shit dude it took you long enough to figure that out. Like wdym guess???
He was not the one begging dottore to join his side lmao. If anything dottore fangirling over him was more cringe. Traveller just gave answered him a language that he understands the most after denying him like 200 times over months period.
" basically im bored , everything is beneath me"
Not to mention the massive pick me energy he kept giving of the entire quest
Or he wanted the knowledge of other worlds. He did say a scholar would get tired of studying everything in Teyvat or something along those lines.
* They were doing animal x human body swaps. Probably testing if swaps can survive if there is a huge power difference, i.e. a Descender x Puppet swap
* Traveller's body can contain the moon marrow no issues
* Dottore's segments/puppets are based on Scaramouche, who does have canon limits - Scaramouche cried when Ei originally tried putting the Electro Gnosis in him, so he probably can't contain a Moon Marrow without discomfort
Rene and allain also tried to create the world formula but everytime they calculated it resulted in total destruction that was until Rene added a descender to equation( he tried to became a descender but was defeated by traveller). That's the same reason sandrone jumped to save him too. Her world formula also required a descender, if he is dead, both plans won't work.
the other thing is that he just wanted to see what a descender would be capable of with access to such power, villian trying to persuade the mc to get more powerful together and rule the world is pretty common in movies
Otherwise, what else could explain the Dottore Glazers in r/FatuiHQ?
Please help! Dottore domain is not showing for me. Also the quick play is not showing.