Playing through the newest archon quests had me thinking

The way I would have fallen for the manipulation hook, line, and sinker… Traveler is lucky to have a moral compass and the endurance to keep putting up with Teyvat’s nonsense, since I’d already be so tired of it. Why not join the crazy guy? Why not become a god?

This is how he gets ya

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sugarfreen0z2026-01-15 11:28

one of way to make a villain great is to make them a valid point that even the mc couldn't disagree, he almost did good job at sowing doubt to traveler too and he wasn't wrong at the time, he can do better anything columbina do (she can only see small glimpse of the past before, while dottore at that point can warp reality, including possibly of forcing abyss sibling reunite early)

"In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you," - green goblin

Mtebalanazy2026-01-15 21:00

The thing he, just because he can do better than everything columbina can do, doesn’t mean he will actually do it, yes objectively he had the power to make teyvat a better place, but everyone knows he would have turned the whole place into hell, just from what he did in those energy fields, you can tell he’ll pull the kinds of things AM was doing on humanity,

sugarfreen0z2026-01-15 21:39

yep, we've already heard beforehand of how he made his co-workers to mop his mess and even his segments disposed without reconsideration per nahida's deal

rekage992026-01-15 11:28

My interpretation wasn’t him offering you to become a god. Rather, you would have some godlike powers in his experiments.

So if you’re saying you’d agree, you’re agreeing to kill everyone on teyvat and then play second rate god in whatever messed up experiments he decides to do going forward. Then when he’s done with you, or if he gets bored or even makes a mistake like he did during the quest or something, he can just make you sit in a dark void for millions of years if he wants.

You’re agreeing to be a genocidal maniac and a toy for dottore. You’re a weird and shortsighted person if you’d go along with that lol

StickMick012026-01-15 11:34

That's exactly how I saw it. Dottore is a narcissist above and beyond. His ideology is very self centered. Thats how dictators get you to lick their arse.

Good thing with how they wrote him. He was a very believable and realistic villain.

RipBitter47012026-01-15 12:07

that require to have reading comprehension **and** capability of thinking the long-term consequence of a deal made to a person like dottore, which frankly something not many in this site to have.

his term of deals doesn't even require you to have moral compass, thinking it a bit more you would realize that his deals only benefit dottore since in hypothetical case you accept his offer then everything and anything quite simply in his hands alone.

traveler would hold no leverage if their ran out of their use and if dottore bored from his grand experiment then nothing could stop dottore to dispose/leave traveler alone in darkness or world that have been hollowed from his grand experiment. only dottore simp would actually willing to accept his deal

Nmerejilla2026-01-15 11:50

Fr. I kinda get what Dottoremains are on now. Kinda

liccaX42S2026-01-15 11:51

It just reminds me of how people fall into all sorts of extremist pipelines. Characters like him will spout all sorts of crazy shit, do all sorts of evil acts (torturing Collei) but he makes one good point, even if it's so mundane and obvious and suddenly, people go crazy into thinking he actually "makes sense".

whenthebirdsfall2026-01-15 12:01

Still a little piece of garbage though.

Shahadem2026-01-15 13:01

And what was this great point?

A manipulative liar does nothing but lie.

Obvious-Childhood9102026-01-15 13:15

I was fairly convinced by the dialogues but looking at the entire picture, I knew he would've just used Traveler once and threw him into the Abyss after that

MiniMages2026-01-15 13:25

I really didn't find Dottore all that great. He's portrayed to be a maniacal genius but a great villian is not in my books.

He prattled on and on about how we would become a god and do more experiment. The player is given the impression that Dottore will become omnipotent and omnicient. But none of that happens even when Dottore gains all of the powers he wanted.

He was soo up his own arse believing he is the only one that is right becuase of how smart he is, yet failed to understand why the Traveller rejected him, why Columbina rejected him etc...

I am not talking about flaws in the character Dottore but the mistakes the writers made while writting Dottore.

Heck, he brags multiple time that he always gives everyone one chance, but he breaks that rule after giving the whole monologue about it. He had access to the primordial powers of Teyvat and all he did was run experiments while the Traveller and Co planned against him. He was also easily fooled by Sandrone with her world formula.

He was setup to be great, the whole Nod Krai story was revealed to be everyone dancing on his palm while he secretly made preparations for his master plan. Putting Rerir together, weakening Columbina, almost catching Bina, getting the two moon marrow. All of that was amazing and showed why you should fear him. But this patch he was just meh. He literally did nothing. Sat back and waited for the traveller and Co to come up with a counter plan.

To me Dottore was a villian but a cliched villian that thought he was great.

Mtebalanazy2026-01-15 13:50

It actually makes sense, he wasn’t unaware of what’s happening, he was just too up his own ass to even think about the possibility that he was fooled, he was too drunk on his own power thinking he was an actual god

When in reality he wouldn’t stand a chance against the big shots

I honestly thought the reason why he was playing Darth Vador on us was because he needed the power of a descender, even the moon goddesses were no match for the heavenly principles

So even with that power he got, dottore would still get dog walked by Phanes

MiniMages2026-01-15 16:18

I thuoght that too, and he showed he had the means to separate all of them. But he only uses his teleportation powers once on the Traveller and then "nope, won't use this broken power any more".

He could have captured the traveller all over again and studied them, torture them, try to break them. Instead he decided to monologue.

Didn't know talk-no-jutsu can be used to lose as well.

Mtebalanazy2026-01-15 20:57

He did that because he thought he already won, he literally gave us time before making his move as an experiment to see what we’ll do, he thinks he’s soo smart and that why he makes the mistake all smart characters make, they think they know everything, and that everyone else is soo stupid, he was soo high on power that they caught his ass lacking

Mtebalanazy2026-01-15 13:42

The thing is, Dottore was 100% lying and absolutely lacking in self awareness,

he talks about a world without struggle yet also turned people into animals

that man had absolutely ZERO good intentions with that power,

Capital-Trainer37932026-01-15 13:43

You actually forget that that Dottore is a pathological liar. Also by going with his deal you sign the contract to get willingly experimented on turn into his toy. Eventually when you no longer interest him. He will throw you awat.

Yeah anyone would pass.

Arkenstar2026-01-15 13:59

Thats not a "great point", youre just easy to manipulate.

bookgrinder2026-01-15 14:27

I don't think what he said in the quest is convincing. He basically want to make the traveler into his minion, and we saw what he did to his soldiers. Ain't nobody sane would agree to that.