Reminder that the devs confirmed that this is an event that will happen in the far future.
I died in nod’krai, but I didn’t die is nod’krai
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garry_the_larry2026-01-16 02:02
I believe the interview was during the Fontaine patches
garry_the_larry2026-01-16 02:02
*minor spelling mistake
esztersunday2026-01-16 02:03
How old is the info? Maybe things have changed.
garry_the_larry2026-01-16 02:06
This is such a big plot point to just throw away. (It’s been foreshadowed with arlecchinos flames)
Plus our sibling needs to get rid of irmunsul if they want to probably make new leylines without getting stoped by the heavenly principles
Plus burning down irmunsul would be a great way to start a war with the HB and shades
esztersunday2026-01-16 02:08
"without getting stoped by the heavenly principles"
At this point in the story, I am suspecting HP to be dead.
GigaEel2026-01-16 02:12
Plot twist: he/she died while we were sleeping for 500 years. That's why we "woke up"
takenusername50012026-01-16 02:16
would the rules they implemented continue after they died? would the shades not notice if they were dead?
mommysanalservant2026-01-16 03:26
Who says the shades didn't notice? A few times it's been subtly brought up that the HP haven't been enforcing their rules in a few instances they normally would have. They might be too busy maintaining their own authorities and the Heavenly Principles general distribution of power to interfere with every little instance of sacrilege. Dottore getting interfered with was in response to an existential threat as opposed to some minor heresy. Would also explain why Asmodeus either went and fucked off or turned herself into Paimon. I doubt she'd have been able to if she was still affected by Phanes's direct authority.
Seifty_First2026-01-16 03:53
Asmoday* also what a username..
OweTheHughManatee2026-01-16 03:32
I've been thinking this too. It would be sick if we eventually went to celestia and it's just a rundown ruins.
LOwOJ2026-01-16 02:08
2 years a go .. so yeah this is still happening.
Seraph1992026-01-16 02:12
They recently confirmed the timelines for working on the main story... they were writing Nod Krai when Sumeru was dropping, so literally while they were writing the current story, they were also dropping the vision of Irminsul burning as an event that WOULD happen in the future.
If they had changed plans, we would not have seen Irminsul burn. Everything is planned way in advance
LiDragonLo2026-01-16 02:25
It did change -_-
LiDragonLo2026-01-16 02:24
Bc it did. The interview every1 brings up has them say its been reworked
cyncitie172026-01-16 08:09
i cant find it but there was a reliable leaker that confirmed irminsul will still burn just not yet, this was about a month ago?
Sad-Bowl-83742026-01-16 02:14
Why would the devs spoil such a big event?
SecondAegis2026-01-16 03:17
Ever heard of foreshadowing?
SecurityOdd48612026-01-16 03:42
It's not foreshadowing when they come out and outright say that It's gonna happen
KazuChuu2026-01-16 04:37
Its probably because to make the community know that the burning tree thing is a glimpse teaser, not a retcon
DeyUrban2026-01-16 09:07
Because stories are not just about the destinations, they're about the journey. This just shifts the mystery: The question is not whether Irminsul will burn or not, it is a question of *why* and *when?*
LivingASlothsLife2026-01-16 02:15
Glitch at the end of the AQ feels like its hinting Dottore ain't gone for good so yea possibly
YeetaIta2026-01-16 03:52
You might be onto something
BulbasaurTreecko2026-01-16 04:26
the way I see it, what would Dottore—known for having many segments that he was made to kill off by Nahida—do with unlimited power and the ability to create life at a whim? One of those Hollow looking bubbles could have been a whole cloning factory replenishing his stock.
Not to mention he was teleporting all over the place earlier (although he might have been unable to at the end since we took his marrows)
Sweaty_Molasses_38992026-01-16 07:24
The fact that the one single bubble Albedo and Durin went into is Dottore experimenting with swapping souls is pretty telling honestly.
Cognitive_Miser-1432026-01-16 06:41
someone decoded the morse code in the end too,
nvm, it was fake
Supreme-Machine-V22026-01-16 10:10
It's not fake if you believe hard enough.
It's real goat will be back
Cognitive_Miser-1432026-01-16 12:34
no need to believe,
He **will** come back,
the effect itself is enough, top borders have that dottore tech effect veins, but the morse code part was fake atleast
JAntaresN2026-01-16 02:15
He is def alive. I wont put it past this guy to make a clone of himself to go Irmdrisul while he takes care of “loose ends” on the surface.
No-Telephone7302026-01-16 03:05
well all think he died for sure because he removed all his clone on sumeru AQ but who said he doesn't make more after that ? bro creative artificial moon marrow im sure he can make another clone easly.
joblessandsuicidal2026-01-16 02:17
Well of course this will happen cos the story will be fire
Utharion_2026-01-16 05:35
r/ThanksCyno
LiDragonLo2026-01-16 02:26
Look at these copers thinking it'll happen
Sea-Garbage-54862026-01-16 03:31
Well because it's the writer themselves who assure that.
LiDragonLo2026-01-16 04:07
Writer themself said it changed -_-
FlameDragoon9332026-01-16 05:31
where? like, drop the link.
BeeSecret2026-01-16 02:28
Almost thought that was World of Warcraft's world tree Teldrassil burning
Rare_Marionberry7822026-01-16 04:27
We even have our own Lich King in the hibernation phase right now.
pzlama3332026-01-16 02:35
My theory: When Dottore sees Wanderer, he realizes that even with the power of three moons, he is still bond to Irminsul and laws of Teyvat, and he cannot ascend to the same level of the Traveler/Descendant. Combined the double endings and the glitch effects, he must hide something and I don't believe he is dead. He may just create another segment to fight us, and his own body just collects data. He may be preparing to burn Irminsul some day sooner or later.
weissberv2026-01-16 06:25
It would actually be funny if he just does a Seymour from Final Fantasy X. >!You kill him and think that he is finally dead for the x-th time but he just keeps coming back to fuck with you.!<
Glyglyphy2026-01-16 07:13
Now I imagine that wedding scene but with Dottore 🤣
znapple2026-01-16 07:48
His whole battle was very Seymour coded and it felt like Deja vu
Glitchykins82026-01-16 08:51
Uugghhh god noooo
scarletfloof2026-01-18 18:07
He’ll likely realize Wanderer is similar to his segments and make the connection that something was deleted from his memories
Theemperorofbricks2026-01-16 02:47
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Known_Personality1432026-01-16 02:55
There is no hidden message
Tschmelz2026-01-16 02:50
Reminder that all we have is an image of Dottore before a burning tree. We have zero context for it, and it’s perfectly possible it doesn’t happen in reality. You know, because there’s a hyper intelligent Archon with power over dreams that’s connected to said tree.
It’ll just be more evidence that Dottore is a fraud.
Sea-Garbage-54862026-01-16 03:23
Well that's the thing, your statement is similar to what is asked to the devs, if it's just a symbolism, a retcon, or it doesn't really happen at all. But the writer themselves confirmed IT WAS NOT. Dottore's burning of Irminsul will happen in the future as they answer.
That interview was during Fontaine patch and remember just this last fes they stated that most of their pipelines happens with 2 years- at least 18 months in advance.
Tschmelz2026-01-16 03:32
Yes yes, the “devs said it will totally happen” in an interview. Here’s the thing, devs generally don’t want to flat out spoil plots in advance. So you can’t actually trust what they’re saying for future plot points, because there’s always a twist, or they’re flat out lying.
For an example, before Arkham Knight released, people guessed that the Arkham Knight was Jason Todd. People asked Rocksteady, “hey, is Arkham Knight Jason Todd?” and they said “no, the Arkham Knight is not Jason Todd.”
Guess who the Arkham Knight was?
Sea-Garbage-54862026-01-16 03:36
Guess what, are they the same devs? Or even the same project? FYI some story points in GI got spoiled literally years in advance even months even some keypoint stories and the devs themselves do little about it, in fact from past experiences they themselves hint at future stories.
Tschmelz2026-01-16 03:42
There’s a difference between spoiling through data mining or leaks or whatever, and the devs tipping their entire hand willingly in an interview. The fact that you can’t seem to recognize that is just silly.
FlameDragoon9332026-01-16 05:29
> devs generally don’t want to flat out spoil plots in advance.
if they don't want to confirm this scene, they'd just dodge the question. plenty of devs did that, for example in Megaman X when asked if certain characters are reincarnations/clone/etc of Dr. Wily, Inafune just said he'll leave it to our imagination.
Them confirming this is a future event is *not* an attempt to not spoil. If anything, it's the opposite.
Now, could the plan have been changed? It is possible. But that's a separate topic.
Eepydeepysleepy2026-01-16 03:00
At this point I think that's just a random tree he burnt one day😭😭. Seriously I like him as a villain but there's so many more people in Teyvat (and outside of it) to fight against that I wonder what their plans with Dottore are. I don't see him as a late-game boss after this last AQ and I fear it could make him loose his appeal if he's just going to keep evading death like a cockroach.
Sea-Garbage-54862026-01-16 03:26
It's up to the devs. And asking, what do you think of the glitch at the 2nd (redundant) ending card in AQ means? Also why do you think in last acts of Luna Quest they keep on bringing up that Sumeru (specifically) needs to prepare, not once but every quest they keep telling us that.
PS. Once again, that's the writer themselves answered literally. Dottore's Irminsul burning will happen, not symbolism, not retcon, but a future event.
LiIIium2026-01-16 03:39
Absolutely.
Eepydeepysleepy2026-01-16 14:09
I think it's quite clear that he'll be back one way or another. It's weird because he supposedly destroyed all of his segments so his current body should've survived somehow.
My guess is that he's going to ally with the sibling and the abyss order. He's the kind of guy who, after loosing everything, would turn to the abyss for power like a last resort. The abyss has a history of influencing people when they're on their lowest point.
I think he'll come back as a "minor" villain working for the twin and hopefully be betrayed by them, I can't think of a better ending for someone like him.
Ps: I almost forgot, all of this would happen in Sumeru since the abyss sibling also has interest in rewriting/destroying irminsul with the loom of fate and all that.
DrakeNorris2026-01-16 04:38
Wasn't that scene happening in seniors funeral? That was the implication right? So this should have happened in the past already, not the future? I dunno honestly it feels like this scene just contradicts the info we have nowadays. Maybe it was meant metaphorically or just isn't canon anymore or something. Otherwise either the funeral itself is in the future, which also doesn't make sense. Or detorre was referencing to his other segment being busy in the future even though he was answering a question about their current whereabouts? It just doesn't make sense to me honestly. I'm not super deep into the lore so maybe there's a way to square this round hole, but to me, it makes no sense.
BlackTemplarKNB2026-01-16 05:12
With moon power dottore made another clone of himself probably.
GGG1002026-01-16 05:57
The devs also said that Varka would be the first character we meet in Nod Krai, yet look what actually happened. People need to learn that plans change all the time, and that’s especially true for a gacha that’s been going on for years.
dolos992026-01-16 06:11
That’s just a cutout of Dottore that someone put up
Terrorbalrog2026-01-16 07:03
Devs also recently said that characters kit is what it is because of the lore, they didn't said lore reasons of why Durin can't fly tho, so I would take anything they say on random conventions with the grain of salt.
Natural_Ad15302026-01-16 09:34
Nah bro, that's just Sylvanas burning Teldrassil.
TaiAnej2026-01-16 09:54
It could always be a retcon. Or just a carrot on a stick situation. Where you keep playing because you want to see how it goes, but it never actually happens, or it ends up being completely different. Fatui fans are already very familiar with this lol. Kind of like how Capitano was so hyped as the first harbinger for years, only to do jack shit and 'die' after actually appearing in the story. Now they're keeping him there so you still have hope, but they'll never actually do anything with him. Or how they made everyone think that Columbina was mysterious, dangerous and unnerving (like c'mon, you have to be really messed up to make *Childe*, of all people, hesitant), only to make her a basic sob story waifu with none of those traits. Shit changes and retcons happen, they're more worried about selling characters than writing a good story, so it's no wonder.
esztersunday2026-01-16 13:17
I thought for years Columbina was going to be an angel because of the wings.
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Plus our sibling needs to get rid of irmunsul if they want to probably make new leylines without getting stoped by the heavenly principles
Plus burning down irmunsul would be a great way to start a war with the HB and shades
At this point in the story, I am suspecting HP to be dead.
If they had changed plans, we would not have seen Irminsul burn. Everything is planned way in advance
Not to mention he was teleporting all over the place earlier (although he might have been unable to at the end since we took his marrows)
nvm, it was fake
It's real goat will be back
He **will** come back,
the effect itself is enough, top borders have that dottore tech effect veins, but the morse code part was fake atleast
It’ll just be more evidence that Dottore is a fraud.
That interview was during Fontaine patch and remember just this last fes they stated that most of their pipelines happens with 2 years- at least 18 months in advance.
For an example, before Arkham Knight released, people guessed that the Arkham Knight was Jason Todd. People asked Rocksteady, “hey, is Arkham Knight Jason Todd?” and they said “no, the Arkham Knight is not Jason Todd.”
Guess who the Arkham Knight was?
if they don't want to confirm this scene, they'd just dodge the question. plenty of devs did that, for example in Megaman X when asked if certain characters are reincarnations/clone/etc of Dr. Wily, Inafune just said he'll leave it to our imagination.
Them confirming this is a future event is *not* an attempt to not spoil. If anything, it's the opposite.
Now, could the plan have been changed? It is possible. But that's a separate topic.
PS. Once again, that's the writer themselves answered literally. Dottore's Irminsul burning will happen, not symbolism, not retcon, but a future event.
My guess is that he's going to ally with the sibling and the abyss order. He's the kind of guy who, after loosing everything, would turn to the abyss for power like a last resort. The abyss has a history of influencing people when they're on their lowest point.
I think he'll come back as a "minor" villain working for the twin and hopefully be betrayed by them, I can't think of a better ending for someone like him.
Ps: I almost forgot, all of this would happen in Sumeru since the abyss sibling also has interest in rewriting/destroying irminsul with the loom of fate and all that.