What would it take for the Heavenly Principles to wake up at this point

LIKE AM I CRAZY OR DID DOTTORE LITERALLY TEAR OPEN THE FALSE SKY IN HIS FINAL FIGHT HOW ARE THE HEAVENLY PRINCIPLES STILL ASLEEP

If this wasn’t enough them im genuinely scared for what’s gonna happen towards the end of the story in order for them to wake up.

Either that or we’re gonna see the repercussions of what Dottore did during the Luna Patches only

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Successful_Pen_29902026-01-16 10:05

You think by now they will drop a nail or two pretty sure it was mentioned there like super paranoid or something about someone getting to much power to override their authority

Costyn172026-01-16 10:06

Remember fate is a thing? Likely this situation was known to resolve itself, so no need for intervention.

The Heavenly Principles will probably wake up when the Traveler goes off script in a way that would require intervention.

PolskiStalker2026-01-16 11:57

I'm lost.

So Teyvat's fate accounts for the Traveler? If so, how can he ever do something off-script?

Costyn172026-01-16 14:44

It doesn't account for him, but what he's changing so far doesn't seem to change the main outcome, just the way to reach it.

Let's say the Traveler saves random people fated to die that didn't broke any rule of HP. The Traveler went off script, but not in a way that would anger HP.

Edit: For all we know, Dottore was fated to fail, and the Traveler's intervention just made him get closer to his goal before failing.

PolskiStalker2026-01-16 15:18

So everything we did was either insignificant or fated to somehow happen even without us?

Who would defeat false god Scara in Sumeru for one. I feel like a lot, even big things that happened were very much influenced one way or another, by actions of Traveler.

How would Fatui get Electro Gnosis without us? What would have to happen for Inazuma to get to current state.

Or are state of a nation and existence of god Scara insignificant?

Costyn172026-01-16 15:41

Insignificant for beings that are above the gods, not for normal people.

What the Traveler really changed is how many people died along the way, and the war in Natlan was the best example of this because we actually have access to alternative events.

The war is always won, as it was fated, but how many people die in the process is determined by the Traveler's actions.

markcan_killua2026-01-16 10:07

atp the only way to wake them up is to directly attack them which is what im guessing the tsaritsa is planning to do

Sky_striker_Raye2026-01-16 10:13

Imo, open the false sky could either mean so much or so litte, because how did we know how many false skies are above the teyvat? Also i dont remember how much the 4 shades care about the moon power. So i think logically, they have enough reason to not interfere.

YannFrost2026-01-16 10:39

In my personal belief. Heavenly Principle is actually dead. It is like a Fromsoft where King Allant and King Vendrick are basically dead/ nothing compared their former selves.

Or basically asleep and we have to wake them up to fight. But they are a fraction of their former selves.

And the Shades are only doing their job to keep the illusion of the Heavenly Principle being alive. As Ronova need to keep the curse up no matter what, because they have to keep the illusion of everything is okay, like Gwyndolin keeping Anor Londo's illusion alive...

I play a lot of Fromsoft games.

DragonlordSyed5782026-01-17 06:59

Honestly with how many Dark Souls parallels Genshin's deep lore has with how Heavenly Principles took over Teyvat there hate for the Abyss and they're tyranny and all that. It would be really cool if that was the case and the finality boss was HP's zombie.

LeagueOfHurricane2026-01-16 10:39

I don't think they have a choice. Remember that the whole reason the Archon system was created is because their battle with Nibelung caused them to have their functions ruined and can no longer surpress the original order of Teyvat. So it seems that they were very much severely damaged in that battle.

So you have an already weakened HP and then the 2nd biggest disaster of Teyvat occurs, the Cataclysm. I theorize what happened is that they used their remaining power to wipe out Khaenri'ah and that caused them to sleep ever since. They're currently recovering power and can't wake up till they do.

The Shades are weird for not responding though. My guess is that they can't do anything major unless ordered by HP. Ronova tried to do something behind their back before, and was punished for it.

Neospanner2026-01-16 16:22

I think the HP are currently incapable of waking up. They're pretty much in an injury-induced coma, and probably trying to heal or self-repair. The Four Shades are keeping house in the meantime, but are strictly limited in what they can and cannot do. They only intervene when things get REALLY bad, as was the case in Khaenri'ah.