About Traveler's new skin's lore...

(You guys can read the full lore in [here](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/As_Heaven_and_Earth_Are_Made_Anew).)

It's implying that there's something or someone inside the spaceship (or the spaceship itself) other than the twins, who came to tevyat first before the twins. At the end of Luna 4 Act 8, Traveler said the spaceship made a stop near tevyat's planet way before they landed.

This thing could be The Primordial One/Heavenly Principles/First Decender themselves.

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SoC1752026-01-16 12:09

Maybe the opening of the game shows what was a huge misstake

The twins are the bosses of the heavinly principles and that's why they gave the order to not let them leave once they finally arrived.

Because they were waiting for their masters arrival and afraid they might accidentally miss them.

However when that moment finally came the HP were unconcious and the shade was acting on an erroneous interpretation of the order.

Dziadzios2026-01-16 13:06

The opening always felt weird because the two stars flew above modern Mondstadt. Not 500 years ago.

aiyafem2026-01-16 13:33

its probably because the abyss havent reached liyue and mondstadt

PhotojournalistJust72026-01-17 21:35

huh,it seems that HP/(maybe)ship ai gave the order to not let the twins leave the planet,and asmoday took it to the extreme,and basically made then both it's enemies.

UpperSupermarket59332026-01-16 12:34

Space Grok vs Dragon Frauds is the new lore theory

Artistic_Cable62182026-01-16 12:55

For fun, we'll add another theory. Paimon is the ship's AI that was damaged after landing and was recreated by Primodial One. Since he was the last one to interact with the ship.

Artistic_Cable62182026-01-16 12:50

this is POV from space ship AI. I don't rally think it is a PO, but it maybe has some connection

InitialBeat242026-01-16 13:31

Might be the voyager, who instigated the war of funerary flame which nibelung soon joined. But not too sure tho

EverlastingWinter232026-01-16 22:18

But the voyager’s kind aren’t allowed to interfere with the fates of worlds like the Traveller are.

Lucky-chan2026-01-16 14:13

I don't think it's possible. If the Heavenly Principles is the spaceship's AI (there's the mention of an idea association module), what could have been the egg from which it was born? There's also the matter of the eggshell that was used to create the firmament. Although I don't know if the eggshell makes up the entirety of the firmament or only partially, the material would have to be pretty big to have covered the planet.

The Heavenly Principles could still have been an AI though based on the red digital effects seen on the false sky and the fact that Naberius and Rhinedottir are surrounded by digital effects.

ImmuniMalo2026-01-16 18:51

those could be only interpretations based on myths.
But it's hard not to connect the fact that the spaceship had the power to terraform and colonize, and then we have the heavenly principles that terraformed and colonized.
The heavenly principles "created" the humans on teyvat -> the ship had genetic vault of humans.

Lucky-chan2026-01-17 03:13

To me, it seems weird that the HP, if it were the spaceship's AI, did not welcome the twins to Teyvat when they landed. The Traveler is treated as an outlander at the beginning of the game, and their powers are also suppressed.

And if the HP decided to go to Teyvat, how did the spaceship still function while the twins were traveling in space? And HP supposedly was the one who hid it.

I also don't think the egg and eggshell were interpretations based on myths as "eggshell" was mentioned in this artifact.

**Moonlit Offering's Parting Light**
>The Lord of the World within the eggshell drew a false veil to shut out the true, bedeviled skies,
Obscuring dread that once robbed kings of sleep, even those who held dominion over beasts.

Former-Database55372026-01-17 05:35

It could be following its code, we don't know yet also the HP has never kicked us out directly it was Asmoday, and the Shades, the HP never really stopped us directly, in Khaneria'ah sure but you could make an argument that PO was following its orders to ensure Teyvat remains habitable against the Abyss (since that was literally the whole point of Khaenria'ah some dudes tampered with Abyss magic and it activated the system to clear it out)

but the question is why it didn't recognize traveler? Hmm... I suppose exposure to the Abyss, the fight with the dragons damaged its system

ImmuniMalo2026-01-17 17:40

well, it's pretty clear that the heavenly principles are not active right now.
As for the ship... there are some corrupted files in there.
Who knows what actually happened.

Neospanner2026-01-16 15:40

The ship's AI MIGHT be the Heavenly Principles. I've been convinced for ages that HP is an AI of some kind, piloting an ark bearing the seeds of humanity from a likely destroyed home world.

But one thing that doesn't really make sense is that if it decided that Teyvat was the place it'd put down roots and start its human repopulation mission, why did the Twins' spaceship continue on its journey?

Also, what was the Twins' role in this? Why did the ship need grown humans on board (rather than just banks of genetic material) if they were spending most or all of their time asleep?

Former-Database55372026-01-17 05:38

Probably whoever created the ship was relatives to the twins and wanted to protect them, think of Griseo.

D-Loyal2026-01-18 06:08

My guess was the AI knew it'd take a LONG time for the planet to be habitable (They ship flew off for thousands of years before returning/being called back). And the Twins were likely the last remaining/eligible survivors of their planet so they'd go with it. Likely supposed to oversee the seeding of life. If the ship found anouther viable planet, that's good, if not, the then Phanes would be working on Teyat.

Given the twins character story saying 'for you will ascend', my guess is the AI/HP was creating the world to be habitable, then called back the ship with the Twins inside when it was ready and they'd be the official rulers. But they were thousands of years out and stuff with the Abyss happened, HP fell asleep/had its functions ruined and couldn't greet the Twins.

If the Heavenly Principles is their ships AI it'd make Khaenri'ah all the more tragic. With the Vinster King exploiting the Abyss Twin for who knows how long... for the Heavenly Principles, the destruction of Khaenri'ah would've been personal then.

Proper-Apartment-4282026-01-20 16:17

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Costyn172026-01-16 17:03

I doubt the First Descender came from the siblings' spaceship because then it wouldn't really make sense how only one sibling is a descender.

If HP is something from their ship, shouldn't both siblings be regarded as a descender for the rules established by HP?

Standard_Map_76182026-01-16 21:30

Wasn’t it implied that the abyss sibling came down on the first pass? Maybe they got rewritten and lost their memories when the ship’s AI became HP and started its plan?

Hopeful_Ad16092026-01-16 21:31

Being a foreign being from Teyvat doesn't make one a Descender. The one that is the best we have is "Having a will that rivals the world".

The AI having those kind of feelings and will while also having the power to easily terraform a planet does give it a proper candidacy for descenderhood.

Maybe the sibling didn't obtain the necessary qualities to be called as one.

Costyn172026-01-16 22:42

The line of thought was that if HP is a terraforming AI that established the new rules, it should be able to grant full access over the new system to both its owners.

Hopeful_Ad16092026-01-16 23:45

Ah so that's what you meant. The title of Descender isn't really a full access or anything it's a classification, a title that indicates a being that in some way can change the world.

The rules of Teyvat are for it's denizens and non Descenders. Being a descender is not a permission or a state within the rules it is specifically outside of them or even rejected by the rules altogether if we can take to conjecture about the line from Columbina that the traveller is being suppressed by the world.

As for the system made by Phanes it still not fully uncovered. We still have a lot of stuff to find out.

kontis2026-01-18 13:30

Sibling was basically reborn, so they became a citizen of Teyvat.

It's still possible that the "original version" of Sibling was one of the descenders.

Nahida's explanation even has weird inconclusive phrases that more or less prepare the ground for that.

Nil_A_Eleftheria2026-01-18 01:05

I don't think the Twin's ship AI is the HP. It's said that the HP put the ship in the Frost Moon to begin with, to hide it/because it was "incompatible with Teyvat".

Now I think what the HP could be is an earlier AI, with its own passengers. And that it put the ship on the Frost Moon because it had already "claimed" Teyvat, and a different pioneer vessel would be a problem for it. Now that's just a theory on the little amount of information we have.

I just don't think the Twin's ship AI = the Heavenly Principles. Since nothing about the outfit description really pointed towards that direct connection. And well, it wouldn't make much sense for the Ship's AI to be doing what it did to the Twins, and why the ship itself is hidden on the Frost Moon.

And logically speaking (since it's an AI and all), if it was the HP, you'd think it'd inform the Shades about the Twins so that what Asmoday did to the Twins at the beginning of the game wouldn't happen.

So yeah, my current thought:
- Twin's Ship AI, *not* the Heavenly Principles
- Another, different AI that arrived earlier, *could* be the Heavenly Principles

Nil_A_Eleftheria2026-01-18 01:08

The outfit description just read like a description of what the ship was doing, how the Twins were just hibernating inside it, and how it was looking for suitable planets and worlds that had "potential" to last a long time before destruction. Introducing the concept of the *pioneer vessels* and their capabilities in terraforming, etc. I don't think it was meant to imply that the AI itself was HP, but that HP could be one of such AI, or something similar maybe.