In act 7 Dottore was able to put Traveler to sleep for a month but in Act 6 Traveler could move in time stop. Traveller should be immune to time manipulation and I don't think the game explains why Dottore could do that
I'm assuming the "targeting" of the effect is what made the difference. In act 6, Dottore put "Teyvat" in time-stop, which didn't work on the Traveler because they are not intrinsically linked to Teyvat. But in act 7, he specifically targeted only the Traveler with a time dilation effect.
HIkaUri2026-01-16 21:00
It seems to me that the Doctor did not manipulate time in any way, but manipulated the Traveler's sensations.
HumsterMKI2026-01-16 21:04
You forgot that Dottore already put the Traveler to sleep once in Sumeru already.
Jolyne_Best_JoJo2026-01-16 21:35
That was by using a specific device on them, while this time was using the power of the moons which the Traveler previously showed immunity to, they kinda got nothing to do with each other.
ReaperofDeath2016-192026-01-17 16:58
It was likely an infrasonic device
KuShiroi2026-01-16 21:55
Maybe it's because he had 3 moon marrows in act 7 instead of 2 in act 6 even if one is artificial.
OrdinaryAnalysis59862026-01-18 15:27
Well, he literally had the 3 moons in the previous patch that being columbina inside the cage and look how that turned out, he failed to restrain the traveler because of his descender status
So somehow he's just able to do that on what was stated/ implied to be impossible in the current patch?
It just doesn't make any sense
You could argue that he just manipulated the traveler's senses, but that still through the power of the trilune and yet moons are still part of teyvat, whose rules don't apply to descenders
KuShiroi2026-01-18 15:48
Maybe just because he put Columbina in a cage didn't mean he took her power right away. If he had, she wouldn't be able to open the gate and escaped.
Shahadem2026-01-17 01:16
It is just bad writing by writers who constantly disrespect the play by disrespecting their character.
OrdinaryAnalysis59862026-01-18 15:28
The downvote is crazy ngl
Lunamkardas2026-01-17 04:35
......I mean.... Dottore in Act 6 had JUST got his hands on those things so he hadn't had any real practice yet.
Act 7 he's had some time and **you just know** he was experimenting like crazy.
peggingwithkokomi692026-01-17 07:58
it was weird at first for me too, but he already captured us before so it would make sense for his powers to interact with us, we even got trapped at the start of the game by asmodei.
He said before he isn't interested in fooling us with mind tricks but i still can't find a way to explain how the mechanism works
Advendra2026-01-17 13:13
Dottore clearly says he needs finese to control the time-related ability. Also different situation, different control of power he can do.
It's like asking, why Dottore not just stop the time of the whole world then?
Katsuy82026-01-18 00:03
Im assuming its because he stopped time for all of teyvat, probably affecting irminsul by this, and since the traveler is a descender, he wasnt affected by it, not to mention he only had two moon marrows. In act 7 he had the artificial third one and had placed the traveler into his experimental field, which is probably why he could affect the traveler with his powers there, this could be backed up with the fact that he said he had been asleep for a month but it seems like outside the experimental field not much time had passed (at least i think so, because i dont remember them saying they were looking for a month or anything like that) so that means the experimental fields held rules different to teyvat itself
OrdinaryAnalysis59862026-01-18 15:42
Again he had the 3 moons with columbina serving as one and him needing to capture her proves that, this is also proven when columbina jumped into the moongate, and making dottore's control over the moons unstable that's why he can't handle the iridescent moon's power when columbina is gone.
Also if the fields had different rules from teyvat, that just won't make any sense due to the fact that they're created using the power of the moons and pure light energy from the light realm to which the traveler is immune and have high affinity with their previous power wing that of light. Traveler should be in theory immune to its effects, but we didn't see that happen in the current patch and what happened is highly contradictory to the games lore and statement
And even if you could argue that dottore manipulated only a singular person or just the traveler's senses, it won't still make sense given the fact that he's using the power of the moons all which came from teyvat.
As for dottore not being used to his newly found power, yeah it just make sense for him to not be accurate at first, still it begs the question, how can he do that to a descender???
Ngl, I think it's bs and inconsistency here.
Katsuy82026-01-18 16:11
The three moons were in the same place, thats true, but he only had two moon marrows in his power which he could manipulate freely thanks to columbina being there too, but he didnt have the trilunar power there, because he wasnt really using the frostmoon marrow as he didnt have access to it
Also, you say that he shouldnt have affected the traveler using the power of the three moons that come from teyvat, but columbina herself used that same power to lift restrictions placed upon the traveler's innate powers, which means someone used a power similar to the trilunar authority to place those restrictions in the first place
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So somehow he's just able to do that on what was stated/ implied to be impossible in the current patch?
It just doesn't make any sense
You could argue that he just manipulated the traveler's senses, but that still through the power of the trilune and yet moons are still part of teyvat, whose rules don't apply to descenders
Act 7 he's had some time and **you just know** he was experimenting like crazy.
He said before he isn't interested in fooling us with mind tricks but i still can't find a way to explain how the mechanism works
It's like asking, why Dottore not just stop the time of the whole world then?
Also if the fields had different rules from teyvat, that just won't make any sense due to the fact that they're created using the power of the moons and pure light energy from the light realm to which the traveler is immune and have high affinity with their previous power wing that of light. Traveler should be in theory immune to its effects, but we didn't see that happen in the current patch and what happened is highly contradictory to the games lore and statement
And even if you could argue that dottore manipulated only a singular person or just the traveler's senses, it won't still make sense given the fact that he's using the power of the moons all which came from teyvat.
As for dottore not being used to his newly found power, yeah it just make sense for him to not be accurate at first, still it begs the question, how can he do that to a descender???
Ngl, I think it's bs and inconsistency here.
Also, you say that he shouldnt have affected the traveler using the power of the three moons that come from teyvat, but columbina herself used that same power to lift restrictions placed upon the traveler's innate powers, which means someone used a power similar to the trilunar authority to place those restrictions in the first place