Is abyss really possible for f2p?

What I mean is, if you're a f2p, even with a wide box, chances are you won't always be able to 36 stars.
For the first time in my life I was able to get 36 stars. However what it took was premium teams and the abyss's buff dedicated to them.
For example, my Neuvilette usually hitting 35k a hit would never 36 stars, but thanks to the fact my dmg was buffed to around 50k, I got to finish these. As for my second team, I played Columbina, fischl, sucrose and flins, (averaging around the same damage as my c0r0 neuvilette team) and thanks to the perfect abyss buff, managed to get through it.
Basically, if the abyss don't want you to, you won't see the end of it, you might get great results consistently, the lack of margin to upgrade your build quickly becomes an insurmountable barrier forcing you to the only option left to become stronger... The credit card...

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ThePunisher501872026-01-16 22:21

As a f2p I have Bina, flins, ineffa and Nefer. Yes it's possible.

Big_Scarcity_90772026-01-16 22:27

I didn't save and still managed to get every nod krai unit (except durin), so I knew I was going to get 36 stars when I finished building them a little. However not everyone's as lucky as us.

ThePunisher501872026-01-16 22:30

Doesn't change the fact that it's completely possible.

kazuyaminegishi2026-01-16 22:21

There are multiple content creators that clear every abyss rotation with budget teams.

Yes its possible.

Big_Scarcity_90772026-01-16 22:31

Budget absolutely perfect c6 best option weapon (even if not 5 stars) team are not budget teams. I can't afford to pull on every banner and risk sacrificing my pity.

babangelsin2026-01-16 22:32

Yeah I can see how well that is working for you with half-assed stuff like a c0r0 neuv and caving in everytime they release something shiny

Big_Scarcity_90772026-01-16 22:37

You should really try to be less condescending, also, do you know me to assume I didn't try my best to get Neuvilette C1 or R1? Also maybe it was more worth to pull for supports that worked for my whole box rather than a weapon that worked for very few characters? In order to grind, you have ro invest little by little, going all out on 1 team is stupid since you need 2, I'd rather have a wide box and many solid teams but always missing 1 or 2 stars.

babangelsin2026-01-17 05:01

>I didn't try my best to get Neuvilette C1 or R1

That becomes very difficult if you buy into the "you have to keep pulling more characters" bullshit. Otherwise it is extremely easy, you just save your primos.

But please tell me what is stupid and what is meaningful when as a F2P I clear all endgame modes (including Dire previous season) with 0 NK characters, only 1 4.x character and 3 5.x characters, and when you create threads like this one.

kazuyaminegishi2026-01-16 22:45

No, budget being f2p. I dont really give a shit about what you can or cannot do, thats your personal skill issue.

Zajef has an account that is completely f2p with planned out pulls that is both able to clear Abyss and was able to clear the most recent fearless stygian rotation. Zyox and IWinToLose both do full 4 star clears.

Your inability to replicate this is indicative of either your planning or your skill level, but it is not representative of some objective truth about the game.

You asked "is it possible to do as f2p" the answer is yes. If you're asking "is it possible for me Big_Scarcity" then I both don't know and don't care, thats not a very interesting question.

babangelsin2026-01-16 22:22

>I couldn't clear abyss without shilling, so credit card must be the only option

Great take if you ignore the massive stack of players clearing it without lunar characters or spending a dime

urmomismine10072026-01-17 01:35

Is there any clear out there without using ineffa on this abyss ?

babangelsin2026-01-17 05:00

Yes, loads of them.

Ravemst2026-01-16 22:23

Yes it is you just have to be smart with what you have. You might not get 12 stars but you can still clear it.

Big_Scarcity_90772026-01-16 22:32

The whole point is getting 36 stars, of course clearing it is possible 😭🤣

Joe_from_ungvar2026-01-16 22:26

f2p doesnt mean putting less effort

i cant quite do it with only effort, i didnt manage 36 stars until i got Escoffier for my Ayaka team(craftable weapon). so during that patch i did it with shill power but i managed to do it even next time without the buff

Big_Scarcity_90772026-01-16 22:29

I play day and night, most of my zones are 100%, I did every 4 and 5* characters story quest, I clear every event and I never reach 200 resins, what more do you want from me? It's already crazy i manage through all that and still have a life.

Joe_from_ungvar2026-01-16 22:40

getting, planning and building teams over time
not much you can do if you dont have options to pick from to handle a not ideal abyss
you want to somehow manage at least one side, and brute force the other

Big_Scarcity_90772026-01-16 22:48

Unfortunately, I feel my only options is waiting until I get perfect artifacts for my characters, and once they're all built only then will I ever be able to feel joy once more and get my 36 stars.

Joe_from_ungvar2026-01-16 22:51

joy? i managed this time to get 36 stars
i didnt manage last two times. i managed a few before that
and i dont regret anything,

Big_Scarcity_90772026-01-16 22:58

I live for the satisfaction of getting stronger, so yes feeling I hit a GIGANTIC wall is quite an experience killer

lllAryklll2026-01-16 22:28

I f2p end I have 680 pull now,and I have Colombina)I got 36 star always in 1.2+ patch) old player*

Isk4nd4r_rd2026-01-16 22:30

Bro f2p does not mean 4 stars only or bad at the game. If you are smart with your pulls and get meta units with a general long term plan in mind you will 36star. Abyss and SO are mostly the "did you pull the latest character?" check but a strong synergistic teams or good gameplay can bruteforce it to a great degree. However if you are doing waifu pulls and geting old character on reruns you will strugle. But ask yourself, is it worth to pull for meta characters you dont like just to get 1 extra pull worth of primos once a patch? So to answer your question - Yes abyss and SO are definately possible for F2P but - unless your sole reason to play this game is clearing the endgame - you shouldnt be streassing about geting 30-33 stars and not clearing menacing, its a game - have fun with it, noone is there to judge the way you play.

Big_Scarcity_90772026-01-16 22:54

Well to be honest, my main way to have fun in genshin is seeing that the synergies I create get stronger and stronger and planning how to invest in order to better the synergies or get new ones, that and exploration, but yeah my main goal is getting consistently 36 stars, today was by luck, I feel I'm only getting closer but so slowly it feels like nothing's happening, maybe i'm just at this point where i have to bend over and pray for perfect builds, but my builds are already not worth enough to invest anymore and i get more and more things I need to spend resins on in order not to be broke... I watch every guide, take every tip, yet only fail to grow further

payasiaakash2026-01-16 22:33

i still manage to clear it with my pre nod krai teams! mainly chasca and the hyperbloom team

Big_Scarcity_90772026-01-16 22:55

Wait, you're telling me you manage to clear abyss with pre nodkrai hyperbloom? As a f2p? Like not c6 5* or r5 or anything like that?
Edit: I realized you said clear and not get 36 stars, so which of those did you mean

payasiaakash2026-01-17 05:20

yes i mean 36 stars, it was a pain tho, i used nahida/xq/yelan/raiden for hyperbloom team 5 stars at c0 and 4 star at c6.

i tried with lauma as well and it was a breeze

sir_aphim2026-01-16 22:33

100% clearable as f2p. You just have to have decent game knowledge when it come to team drafting and team rotations, actually have properly build characters and be strategic with which characters/weapons you pull for rather than "I love this character" etc etc.

Whales and spenders can play this game as a collect-a-thon and play according to feelings and still clear everything.

F2P (if you want to actually clear end game content) have to play this game as a resource management game and play according to what they have available and what their account needs. (At least up to the point where you have some solid core teams you can use) Then you can divert some of your resources on other characters etc.

Big_Scarcity_90772026-01-16 22:47

It's what i'm doing but since I started the game 5.2, luckily before neuvilette's rerun, and if you count the time it took me to get to a level I could farm artifacts, I only really started optimization in maybe 5.4. My two main teams are getting closer abd closer to the point where even if I hadn't any other characters to invest on, it wouldn't be worth to invest resins into them anyway, hence the reason I feel like an unfair wall was set, investing becomes blurrier as i advance forward. Artifacts feel like they will never get any better, and only constellations or better weapons (that you get by pulling) are reliable options to grow

Rex_Lapis_2026-01-16 22:34

So overall you want to tell us thats you didnt build your characters right and thats the problem ?

Big_Scarcity_90772026-01-16 22:57

They built and all and I also get the most out of them with what I have, but I can't have a c0r0 neuv with an astonishing 300% crit.

Rex_Lapis_2026-01-16 23:02

You rly think everyone who can clear abyss all the time and spent some money on the game has c6 5* units ?

Big_Scarcity_90772026-01-16 23:03

No but they have 5* weapons which is already a big buff, a wider box to fit their needs, etc

WhooooCares2026-01-16 22:49

Too many of you guys use "F2P" like it means a new or casual player. All F2Ps are not the same. Too many causal players don't understand they're casual and can't figure out why they don't get the same results as players that put in effort.

Rex_Lapis_2026-01-16 22:53

Yea, best one is F2P, plays the game from time to time, 70% of map is unexplored, doesnt pull and build units, then cries when they cant finish battle events on lowest difficulty

Big_Scarcity_90772026-01-16 23:01

100% nearly everywhere, every quest are done, do my resins, events and all the content in the game, all that's left is endgame (and anecdotes), if my resins don't make me stronger (even though I don't have enormous margin) it's not my fault, some people assuming i'm casual for some reason when I always am playing the game when I can (and I have a LOT of freetime)

Notkiller2026-01-16 23:09

As an F2P you should have at least one character for each type of playstyle and reactions and you are good.

That way you can do it even if you don't have the best team for it.

For example this Spiral Abyss:

For the 1st side does not matter what you use. Just use your best damaging team.

I literally only had Flins and it made 2nd side very easy and no effort at all.

All you need to do is plan it out to have at least one type of character for specific situations between pulls you want to make it easy.

george1815252026-01-17 00:31

Longtime player, f2p until nod krai. 36* every abyss since 2.8 which was pretty easy with minimal powercreep before Natlan. My account has a huge advantage with the amount of extra resources (primos and resin) compared to newer players.

That said, abyss isn't quite as free now that hyperbloom fell off as a budget team option. But 36* is still much easier to achieve for newer accounts, compared to 12 stellas in IT or fearless SO.

Big_Scarcity_90772026-01-17 00:42

You're right and this is why rn I focus on improving my account for the abyss, I also try my best to get as much stellas as possible even though this gamemode requires more characters than i have, as for SO... I just take my primos and leave... Sometimes tryhard a little but for some reason this mode doesn't interest me

tempoltone2026-01-17 02:34

Part1 use lunar bloom/hyperbloom

Part2 use lunar-charged/electro-charged

lostn2026-01-17 07:41

yes. And you'll see it here and on youtube all the time.

Provided you're not a new player.