So correct me if I'm wrong but..

Columbina feels like she.. does nothing? Especially coming from someone who got lucky with a c2r1 Durin. Columbina just feels completely lackluster in her personal off field damage and supporting capabilities, I have her at c0r1 with 35k hp, 64cr/250cd and she cant even reach 10k per tick? Durin in his light form does at least 30k while his dark has gotten to 200k.

Moving to buffing capabilities.. to be blatantly honest she's barely doing more then Aino, I tested Flins/Ineffa/Bennet/Aino then Columbina in the dps wonderland mode..
~Aino~120k dps
~Columbina~130k dps
So about 10k increase which isnt bad I suppose but definitely isnt amazing.

Then I thought well her other cool thing she does is change any dendro/electro/geo reaction damage to lunar so I tried running a team with c1r2 Alhitham, c2r0 Nahida, Ineffa, and Columbina and he barley hit 50k dps whichhh is an upgrade from his previous team I suppose but still very meh. (Previous team Alhitham/Nahida/Raiden/Zhongli~40kdps)

Sooo I then test Cyno! One team with Durin one with Bina..
-Cyno/Nahida/Durin/Fischl~80k dps
-Cyno/Nahida/Bina/Ineffa~50k dps..

Yall idc if this is seen as complain Impact She's literally the Archon for this region, a "Harbinger", and a flippen Moon Goddess.. BUT SHE CAN'T HIT OVER 10K??.. idk I'm still gonna work on her some more and keep pulling for some more cons in hopes they'll help and I'll test her in some more teams to see if she really pops off anywhere but geeze is she extremely underwhelming (in terms of value). She's pretty and has charisma, uniqueness, nerve, and talent but can she do damage? No. Can she buff? Somewhat. And can she enable other characters to lunar? Idek sometimes it seems like?.. yeah that's it. That's my rant. Thank you.

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thrwway3772026-01-17 00:02

you can't be serious with this shit my dude

SanicHegehag2026-01-17 00:08

Sadly, I think he is.

Lord_Haku6262026-01-17 00:32

I'm dead ass serious! Is all her value in looking pretty and being a minor dps/buff upgrade from aino?? Yes. Comparing her to Durin isnt fair until they are both c2 but everything else yeah.

La-Roca992026-01-17 00:08

A wise Praetor once said

*I often wonder if we are growing as people or in fact, regressing*

This post just confirms it. Mankind is regressing

>Bennet

What the fuck is he doing there

You stand to gain more with Sucrose than with him

zdheis2026-01-17 00:11

First person ever to look at Columbina’s Hydro numbers

DaSpood2026-01-17 00:13

> Especially coming from someone who got lucky with a c2r1 Durin.

You're comparing C2R1 probably fully equipped and levelled Durin to a C0R1 probably 6/8/8 Columbina with a sub-optimal artefact set. And the teams will affect her results too.

> Moving to buffing capabilities.. to be blatantly honest she's barely doing more then Aino

C0 Columbina is equivalent to C6 Aino yes, her value comes from her ability to do damage where Aino does almost litteraly nothing (sub-10k damage per ***rotation*** while Columbina does at least that every second).

> Then I thought well her other cool thing she does is change any dendro/electro/geo reaction damage to lunar

Lunar reactions are bait. People don't understand that. Your Lunar Charge team does negligible damage through the Lunar Charge reaction. Most of the Lunar Charge damage is direct from the kits of Flins and Ineffa (and Columbina). Lunar Bloom does quite litteraly nothing. Lunar Crystalize does about as much as Lunar Charge but considering normal Crystalize does no damage it's the most noticeable improvement.

> I tested Flins/Ineffa/Bennet/Aino then Columbina in the dps wonderland mode..

> so I tried running a team with c1r2 Alhitham, c2r0 Nahida, Ineffa, and Columbina

> Sooo I then test Cyno! One team with Durin one with Bina..

My brother in christ, sorry to break it to you, but you don't know how to build teams, that's your entire problem.

- your Flins team has a dead weight in the form of Benett who contributes nothing. Flins and Ineffa do almost the same amount of damage, Benett cannot buff both, and both already get plenty of attack, but they could use extra EM. That's why people use Sucrose, with the proper set and weapon.

- your Alhaitham team is not a team for Columbina. Columbina wants bloom teams, and she wants to be the DPS for those. And even then, her Bloom multipliers are the lowest because they are balanced assuming Lauma's burst will more than triple their damage.

- Your Cyno team is the same, it's not a team for Columbina at all. What Lunar reaction are you trying to get here, Lunar Aggravate ? And despite all of that you're only losing 30k dps to a Durin with 2 constellations more (because guess what, Durin is also not made for this team).

A proper flins team with Columbina, assuming everyone is C0R0, can reach over 140k. A somewhat synergistic team with both Columbina and Ineffa at C0R0 can reach over 100k. From what I've seen, a C0R0 (P.Amber) Columbina has her skill hit for about 50k in a Lunar Charge setup. Consider that if your numbers are significantly lower, you're doing something wrong. Whether it's team building, artefact sets, rotations, talent levelling, etc.

Lord_Haku6262026-01-17 00:40

Yeah.. I suppose the Alhitham and Cyno teams don't make much sense actually and the comparison so c2 Durin isnt fair but aside from that Idk why I'm not seeing that 50k from her.. she seriously cannot hit over 10k no matter what team she is in she has good hp, cr, and cd but ig I just need more?

Admiral_Axe2026-01-17 01:14

You keep looking at her hydro aoe numbers. Her hydro aoe is not her source of damage. Its just to apply hydro for her teams. Even in a team with furina yiu will barely scratch 20k hits with that.

Her real damage is her contribution to the team wide calculation of lunar reactions and her big E dieect lunar damage hits which are either lunar charged, lunar bloom or lunar crystal based on your teams damage types.

Those should hit every 6 seconds btw and easily do over 100k crits with c0r1 (except bloom, that one deals 5 small hits instead of a single big one but they add up to roughly the same as the single hits from crystal and charged)

OverallReplacement492026-01-17 00:16

Her offield dmg suck, like big time, the only time when you will feel your invest worth is Columbina main dps in a lunar bloom team with Lauma, that’s when she’s on par with other dps, otherwise as sub dps she has terrible dmg

frostN0VA2026-01-17 00:22

Days like these makes you miss Physical being a thing in Genshin.

No need to think of anything, just press button and smash...

Lord_Haku6262026-01-17 00:24

Okay all of you are saying alot except for what she CAN do like literally... WHAT DOES SHE DO?! Is all her value purely in that minor dps and buff upgrade from aino???

I admit comparing her to Durin was wrong but I'll compare again if I get c2 Columbina as well.

Lord_Haku6262026-01-17 00:27

And yall I get it Bennet aint the best for Flins but Succrose isn't built yet and I'm building so many other characters atm plus his team is popping off without her for now..

CoconutxKitten2026-01-17 06:38

The point is that you can’t use a sub optimal team & complain about it

Bennett doesn’t belong in these teams. Ironically, when people DO put a pyro unit with Flins, it’s Durin

Lord_Haku6262026-01-17 06:52

?? You seemed to have missed the point 😅 I never complained about Flins team... but I'll say it again I know Bennet isn't that good in this team BUT he is built and that is convenient.

TrusterK2026-01-21 13:26

A built Bennet does less for that team than a Sucrose with whatever artifacts you have rn

Ifalna_Shayoko2026-01-17 00:52

My man here acting as if having a C6 4\* is some kind of GOD given right....

Getting her to C6 is pure RNG. So yeah Bina is a reliable way of getting that.

On top of that, I think Bina not roflcopter powercreeping everyone before her is a GOOD thing for the game.

htp-di-nsw2026-01-17 00:39

I don't really like Columbina as a character (her voice drives me nuts) but she's the greatest QoL character I have experienced in a long time. I haven't done any testing, I don't really care about specific DPS numbers, but Columbina provides:

- skill based hydro application so you don't need to care about energy during the 99% of the game your spend in the overworld
- that follows you rather than being in a static position
- with a cooldown shorter than its generous duration
- that is large enough that you don't need to hug the enemy
- and it doesn't drain your party's health to do it

This could deal zero damage and I would still be thrilled to have her.

Lord_Haku6262026-01-17 00:45

Xingqiu was one of the first characters I ever built and I recently got Yelan.. I've never struggled with hydro application and honestly Xingqiu still feels the most comfortable for application in most cases. If anything I'm having trouble adjusting to to ring being within melee distance.

htp-di-nsw2026-01-17 01:05

I hate Xinqiu because you either need to hug the enemies or deal with energy and use a burst.

I like Yelan a lot better because I have C1 to reduce her energy issues, but...I hate dealing with energy so much.

Columbina is going to make my Nefer team function in Stygian Onslaught, for example, and that's awesome.

Shahadem2026-01-17 00:43

Columbina increases the damage dealt by other characters.

Her personal damage as an onfielder if built for that role can also be pretty good.

SecyaDenali2026-01-17 01:24

At a baseline I can understand. Like i know Lauma and Ineffa have kind of absurd solitiary value (Ineffa is an atk scaler out of all things lol).

Its just that Bina objectively does more than 0 dps for NK teams that alone pushes out in front of everybody not named Mavuika.

Aino is mega slept on (so is diona btw). Like uber slept on. Free hydro with no energy diff, EM buff at c1 , extra hit at c2 is vital. C6 Aino legit can be a better buffer but thats a more hypercarry playstyle (where you short Ineffa and buff Flins for example). And will always have a place in the game if an account has 2 NK setups.

Also with Bina and Ineffa, Electro/hydro/pyro or Geo is actually the way to go (Geo is fantastic for both as sec bis). Too many cooks spoil the food so to speak and dendro really likes to take over. Durin, Sucrose should be better for Bina and Ineffa

Also your comparing a c2 character to a c0. I mean ill be real C0 Furina aint the best thing in the game. I use her alot and i do think shes massively overrated. Ineffa just kind of solves everything while not overbearingly wanted as a forefront to build upon.

SilverGeekly2026-01-17 05:57

she does do something. the issue is just you are not using her correctly/expecting the wrong things.

she is not a hydro subdps, firstly. her damage comes through lunar damage conversion

secondly, she is always meant to be paired with another lunar character. specifically, with either ineffa or *especially* lauma for bloom, since lunar bloom does nothing on its own.