Childe is the last Man amongst the Harbingers with any meaningful combat power

Confirmed combat power, mind you (lets not speculate on Pierro just yet, but he's likely to be stronger), and he's also shot up to being the 2nd strongest, though not by Merit and more due to attrition and casualties.

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Then-Network-68612026-01-17 09:11

No point in making speculations, all harbingers have much higher strength compared to mortals,Venti said that in the very first chapter, so lets not judge Pulcinella or Pantalone before we even meet them

But I welcome HIMjax glaze tho, my Goat

Clouds_Hide_The_Moon2026-01-17 09:12

Pantalone has no vision or notable reputation for combat and is a banker first.

Pulcinella is implied to be a highly skilled politician rather than a fighter.

Then-Network-68612026-01-17 09:14

Vision isnt the only source of power at this point, lets be real. Even Childes strongest source of strength is from abyss, not his vision

We dont know 99% things about them yet so I wont judge.

Chainiyprelord2026-01-17 09:19

eh, we have enough characters who don't give a fuck about visions and still have power, and don't forget delusions

Pulcinella is fae, and very old one, although I don't know anything about them

kujah_0h2026-01-17 09:28

He's probably from the old Nobility that ruled the region in ages past, but he's implied to be more of politician than anything. I think he'll also just have powerful minions or tools at his disposal. It can either be Childe's family or the Hearth as hostages so neither Childe nor Arle can help us again.

That way, he'll also be the first Harbinger to take up a more typical villain with goons archetype. It would make less sense to make him a playable character..

Pantalone will, at most be, iron man, but's hes not a tech guy. Just a banker.

kujah_0h2026-01-17 09:19

That why I put "confirmed" combat power.

Im wondering if Nod Krai will be the last time we'll be enemies with the Fatui since we're buddies with the remaining.

The guy below also has a good point. Who do we fight from here?

Then-Network-68612026-01-17 09:28

I have a feeling after going to Snezhnaya if traveler comes to know of the Tsaritsa's motives he will actually join as the 10th harbinger. Fatui has always felt like a morally grey organization rather than a full on evil antagonistic faction to me.

Also Sandrone is ranked 7th, but she herself doesn't have much combat skills, rather she has high intelligence, she fights with Pulonia, that makes me think Fatui harbingers arent really ranked with just personal strength. Pantalone and Pulcinella could be the same, Pantalone has the power of money and Pulcinella has the power of politics which they can use against us lol

Clouds_Hide_The_Moon2026-01-17 09:15

Actually curious on what to do from here.

Half of the remaining Fatui are our friends now and I doubt Genshin is gonna have us fight the Tsaritsa since they've been dripping some crumbs here and there to show that she isn't gonna be a bad guy.

And with no extra terrestrial enemies revealed even toward the end of the Nod Krai chapters. What are we supposed to do from here? Fight Phanes right away?

Zesty_Crouton2026-01-17 09:22

Fight the Sinners, obviously. That's why they were introduced.

Snezhnaya seems like the optimal place to have us meet Hroptitir. Not that he has any direct connection to that country or the Cryo archon, but he does have a rivalry with Pierro, who we'll likely meet there, so I can easily see him being the big bad of that region.

Though, honestly, I don't see why other Harbingers can't still be our enemies. Like Pierro still gives big bad vibes, and Pantallone at least still seems like a plausible villain - albeit not a particularly threatening one at this point in time. And I don't believe we've seen the last of the Doctor either.

But yeah. Sinners are the new focus here, and they have been since Nod Krai started. We've moved from Archons and Harbingers being the big boys to Sinners and Shades. Assuming we go to Khaenhri'ah next after Snez, Vidolfrnir seems like the likely big bad, though I could also see Surtalogi possibly returning. Then I imagine Shades and the HP will be our challenge in the endgame.

kujah_0h2026-01-17 09:37

The Sinners are of the Abyss, but Genshin has already made them a not totally antagonistic faction. Skirk was made to humanize elements of the Abyss and Surtalogi was made to be more honorbound among the sinners. Rerir has also been made out to be a tame guy bar the insanity.

And with Alice being pretty swell, Rhinedottir's probably not gonna be too evil to be unredeemable. She'll just be... Eccentric... Or whatever Genshin will come up with.

The HP are more likely candidates. The shades are too compromised and involved with playable/friendly characters to be permanent villains. Capitano is holding up Ronova whilst Time and Space are tied closely to Columbina. Life is 100% gpnna ge Rhinedottir's enemy, which makes Rhinedottir an ally.

-Naver-2026-01-17 09:21

Harbingers have become a joke tbh. Just can't take them seriously anymore as antagonists.

The_Lone_Wanderer_042026-01-17 09:33

I hope your joking seing as how Dottore was just the biggest threat Teyvat has seen in a long time, and I highly doubt we are done with him.

Prestigious_East_5132026-01-17 09:40

Well maybe that's Dottore by himself, the rest of the Fatui Harbingers are in a strange spot where we're either cordial, indifferent, or just uninitiated with any of them. Even then, Dottore probably shouldn't be lumped with the rest of them as far as alignment goes now.

The_Lone_Wanderer_042026-01-17 10:31

Wouldn't count him out yet, he is slimy and not only is there a pyro Gnosis to be gotten but a irmunsul to burn.

He might very well worm himself back into the Fatui before the end for Snezhnia, we don't know the future and there are still 4 Harbingers we have not dealt with yet including the leader of the Harbingers Pierro.

clfr65152026-01-17 09:29

You don't know that. The Regrator might have a rocket punch. The Rooster might be able to shoot beams form his nose. The possibilities are infinite.

But in the end, the true victor will be Paimon. Once she graduates from the Akademiya, she will have surpassed the Doctor and will become the true #1 of the Eleven Fatui Harbingers.

Childebag2026-01-17 10:09

Just wait until we see Pulcinella absolutely ripped (one shotting everything) and Pantalone summoning all of Teyvat's Mora on Traveler's head.