Who is able to win an argument against him

He seems unbeatable with words. Maybe you can find the best insult, but he seems doesn't care about anything except him and the knowledge. He seems a Sheldon Cooper, but with 0% clumsiness and 0 weakness. I can't see how can someone offend him, or make him really angry.

For now I can see only Albedo, Flins and Ayato on pair with him (Im sure Im forgetting someone). For Ayato, tbh they showed so little about him, that I don't know what saying. And Albedo, he seems having the "he is too much great to be damaged" aura character. And Flins, probably is my pick

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Karandeep_2026-01-17 16:28

I don't think anybody in Teyvat is as smart as him. I’ll go as far as to say that he is on par with Dottore in terms of smartness. We should be grateful he’s on our side because I believe he is smart enough to find the truth of Teyvat within a week. Who knows, he might be Hroptatyr in disguise.

Perfect_Increase87922026-01-17 18:23

You are fr?

Karandeep_2026-01-17 19:30

For what? Exactly...

LiDragonLo2026-01-17 20:29

Nahida says hi

vglisten2026-01-17 23:00

Dottore is probably 60 IQ above Haitham vro

Karandeep_2026-01-18 04:54

I mean, we never really see Haitham taking things that seriously, yet he’s still achieved great feats in terms of intelligence. So who knows how smart he would be if he actually took things “seriously”?
It could be that he always gives his all, but just acts like he doesn’t give a f—. Who knows? He may or may not be as smart as Dottore. This is just speculation—it can’t be proven true or false unless we actually see them in the same room, arguing with each other or having some kind of direct interaction.
This is just a fun little speculation. I don’t know why people dislike it so much… but I guess this is Reddit for you.

Pale-Exercise-57402026-01-17 16:51

Nahida. . . Right? Or is pitting gods/dragons on him, cheating?

Vegetto_ssj2026-01-17 21:22

I think is easy make Nahida sad (I didn't mean an intellectual discussion, but arguing.

Crymsyn_Moon2026-01-17 16:52

Itto. Winning an argument with a genius is difficult. Winning an argument with an idiot is impossible.

Prestigious_East_5132026-01-17 16:54

Itto will drag him down to his level and beat him with experience

Vegetto_ssj2026-01-17 21:30

This happened with Yelan in Xiao's event. But also Yelan made Itto angry enough to make him leave the words to passing to hands (so both lost)

Vegetto_ssj2026-01-17 21:21

I already thought about him, but Alhaitham is enough smart to know if leave or not (yes technically is a lose, but doesn't do the Itto's game).

And this: if yall did Xiao limited event, we saw Itto get seriously angry for the first arguing with Yelan. That was refreshing (and he was so "strong" that make also Yelan angry😂).
And Itto and Yelan both they lost because from words they wanted to pass to hands (so a lose)

Illustrious_Kiwi55182026-01-17 16:56

Razor

FlameDragoon9332026-01-17 17:27

Columbina and Traveler. Because [newest AQ spoiler] >!they know Teyvat is round, while Alhaitham still thinks it's flat!<

what-the-helll2026-01-17 21:26

Does Alhaitham really think that?

FlameDragoon9332026-01-18 04:33

Yes, it's on one of the message boards in Sumeru.

Though to be fair, it seems people in general still thinks Teyvat is flat. There's an Akademiya NPC who says he has a "revolutionary idea" that the world is round. If that was 'revolutionary', it means the general populace currently don't think that way.

Knight99102026-01-17 23:35

I find this hilarious, though, because like... in reality, Teyvat is literally flat. Like, the game world is flat. I can see Inazuma from Mondstadt when the curve should make that impossible. (No, really, look out from Mondstadt, you can see the glow of the Grand Narukami Shrine.)

Khrysor2026-01-18 06:00

Just because you know something doesn't mean you can win an argument against them.

Full-Kitchen-65622026-01-17 18:23

Hmm a great question the obvious one could be nahida here since she is the godess of wisdom and other than her ineffa if aino can ti ker her joking system maybe she can tinker the argument one too

UnderstandingLow16192026-01-17 18:39

He would lose to Nicole's yapping.

Only Varka can win over this OP cute little demon girl.

avyssalea2026-01-17 19:06

he can't win, he just doesn't mind losing to her

UnderstandingLow16192026-01-17 18:46

Joke aside, to win against him, it’s not about insulting him or using knowledge.
If he would only argue only when he's so sure. And if he isn't sure, he wouldn’t argue in the first place. So, theoretically, he would never lose.
The only way to win is to make him give up.
Men like this, cool and confident, often have weak spots for teasing-type women like Yae or Alice, for example. It's not like he can't win. But these type of women just won't lose.

Vegetto_ssj2026-01-17 21:26

>If he would only argue only when he's so sure. And if he isn't sure, he wouldn’t argue in the first place. So, theoretically, he would never lose.

You rrad my mind.

>Yae or Alice... But these type of women just won't lose.

Winning vs Yae isn't hard. I think we already saw her a little frustrated. And for Alice, I think that is enough touch Klee to make her lose the mind (My fault, I haven't been clear; with "Winning and argument" I mean also make the opponent lose the mind)

TheFicSnowFlake2026-01-17 19:06

I will have to give this one to Kaveh. Alhaitham strikes me like the kind of person you need to win the war against him, not the fight. Power of will and perseverance, fighting for what you believe in while proving that your choices and opinions are truly yours and not out of stupidity and ignorance. In a way, I think Kaveh has already won at least once.

Gregamonster2026-01-17 20:20

It's impossible to "beat" Alhathiam in an argument, because like everyone who understands how to think critically he'll change sides when presented a compelling and logically sound case.

The only two options are he's right from the start, or you convince him to change sides and *he's still right.*

There is no scenario in which he's wrong, thus it's impossible for him to lose.

Vegetto_ssj2026-01-17 21:29

What I think too (and a reason why I like Alhaitham). But I also think is hard make Flins angry in a discussion

thisbigdiamond2026-01-17 22:29

madam herta

MonochroMayhem2026-01-17 22:56

I’m not sure if winning an argument would work, but Alhaitham and Cyno likely could go at arguing for hours without either of them losing their minds. Endurance wise, Cyno is evenly matched. In terms of volume of knowledge, Zhongli perhaps? In terms of managing to beat him in games of logic? If only I could see Nefer try, genuinely curious to see how she fares.

ion4772026-01-17 23:20

No one honestly because if he realises he's losing the argument I imagine he would just say "this debate is pointless" or something and walk away.

Knight99102026-01-17 23:37

Please. Phoenix Wright would present his attorney badge as evidence, slap the desk, and shout "TAKE THAT!" and it'd all be over. RIP Alhaitham.

smoqingmabluntbitch2026-01-17 23:48

Definitely Ajaw

thwrlsgenshin2026-01-18 00:33

Lesser Lord Kusanali, easy.

miltonbimowitz2026-01-18 02:43

Many, many people that he’s narratively not allowed to meet.

xd_ZelnikM2026-01-18 12:47

Zhongli, Albedo, Neuvillette and him would have a 10 hour long debate, before Hu Tao, Durin, Sigwinne and Kaveh all drag them back to their respective "homes*

Luna_MariaHawke2026-01-20 12:59

I´m getting the popcorn!

MagnanimousGoat2026-01-18 21:37

His ability to win an argument depends on the ability of the person writing his dialogue to also control the dialogue of everyone he engages with.

Since his writer wouldn't be able to do that with me, it would depend entirely on that writer's ability to form cogent arguments in realtime.

But really I can just hit Alt-F4 and shut down any argument he makes.

Admirable-Marsupial32026-01-19 20:29

Klee. Could he win? Sure. Is he smart to enough to know that taking the risk of making her cry, isnt worth winning the argument? Also yes.

Uzu1292026-01-20 14:16

Perhaps Ineffa, robot vs human

Konomiru2026-01-21 14:55

Alice, nichol, flinns, columbina, dain, rhindotter, wanderer, albeido, nefer, furazan, Ineffa if she had her original part/personality, raiden Ei.

Alheitham is book smart but he doesn't do any research himself as much as uses existing knowledge within sumeru's academia which wanderer has pointed out has alot of either wrong or outated information. Just by virtue of age and curiosity, most of the older cast would know more than him.

Fischl and cacucu could win any debate bs him via yapping....also the fact fischl subconsciously discovered the secret to creating life...she's clearly smarter than just somone cosplaying.

Vegetto_ssj2026-01-21 16:09

When I talk about argument, I didn't mean mainly knowledge discussions (I don't know how to say it in eng)...war of words?

I think Alhaitham can emotionally beat most of the name your meant: Alice just touching her kid, but tbh, I want to see her more in-game, not just as cool master. Nicole...she seems sensible. My sensation is that with the right words you can emotionally hurt her (just my sensation, Im not a real lore guy).

Wanderer, Faruzan are Fischl aren't so hard to make them losing the calm. (Fischl isn't stupid, but not either a genius, for me)

Columbina I didn't do all her sidequests. Tbh, I feel I didn't see enough of her, just ppl that treat her very well, and only Sandrone, that is her ragebaiting toy.

I won't talk about Rhin until we see her in-game, where often Genshin shows hidden sides of characters.

Nefer is cool, Genshin portrayed her on pair min. with Yelan, BUT Yelan lost arguments vs ITTO (not lost, draw, because both got so angry that left the words and wanted to use the hands, and for me this is as losing). While she appeared a bit annoyed by Lauma, not so much to makes lose her composure. Need to see how long she can resist to possible provocations from Alhaitham (he doesn't care about what ppl think about him. We never see him angry if im not wrong)

Tbh, Raiden Ei doesn't seem so good in arguments and provocations, I mean, Yae is surely stronger than her from this point

Dain seemed chad initially, but during the Genshin story we saw him more "fragile". Im not enough sure to exclude him tho.

Flins and Albedo were already my pick, both made to not never appeared defeated in this sense