How to ruin 10/10 story with single decision

You kill Sandone who sacrificed for Traveler to buy time - ok.

Then you make epic battle - ok

Scene where Columbina looks at dead body of Sandrone - ok

In this moment you as a person are strugling emotionaly, can someone confirm she is really dead? Can we help her? Is it really over? We have Moon Goddess, we have Genius inventor Aino. What is the next scene? Are we crying?

And we got timeskip few days - ok

WE GET A SCENE OF WAKING UP, EATING, PAIMON BURPING.

At this point you want to know what happened as soon as possible right? Traveler looks fine just tired, it looks like Sandrone is all right or in coma otherwise traveler would be quite down that someone sacrificed for him right? So you as a player only care about this specific info.

Then a scene with League, and then another with Nicole, still no info about Sandrone.

So you are stressed with another scene where Wanderer with Arle finaly confirm to you that she is dead. You are shocked as a player. One of the best characters is killed and there is NO PROPER FAREWELL SCENES!! NO CHARACTER REACTIONS!!! NOTHING!! Just a simple one sentence that Columbina stayed with her body few days!? SORRY WHAT?? You are building whole story with lovely character interactions and now you suddenly don't bother to let me properly mourn character who sacrificed for me?

Then Paimon goes ooooo you gonna finaly learn about your ship! I DON'T CARE ABOUT SHIP RIGHT NOW! Best girl just died and story does not show anything related to that! Such important event took place entirely off screen!! And now I am disconnected from the story.

This is one of the biggest storytelling failures of entire time.

If you kill character who died for us you either let us say goodbye to it by properly establishing its death with some scenes or make some kind of massive foreshadowing that this character will be back in future to not makes us worry. Here Sandrone was treated like not important unneeded character. Nobody was shown to care for her death so that player would resonate. WHY?! You had time to include some scenes with random NPCs about some bullshit but character reactions to Sandrone death?

This destroyed the rest of the story for me. Up until timeskip it was 10/10.

After Sandrone death 3/10 max.

Massive L.

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Slush_Magic2026-01-17 20:31

lmao

_InVerso_2026-01-17 20:33

Paimon burping after Sandrone death. Massive Genshin lore allert.

ikkekun2026-01-17 20:33

she a bot, she just can just be repaired

La-Roca992026-01-17 20:34

First time actively showing blood and playable character death on the screen is seemingly not enough

And then people wonder what else would be required to actively get people to enjoy something they dislike so intensely that they must find a flaw anywhere

Hell, Columbina got in and went to her as soon as she could just to hug her lifeless husk

Moreover, on her Friendship 4 dialogue, she literally express she >!actively tried to bring her back from the dead with her new powers and failed!<

And you have the entire dialogue with Arlecchino at the port of her belongings remaining at the House of the Hearth, except her diary that she wanted you to have and not Columbina

Like what else could they actively show on your screen to confirm you that she is completely and utterly irreversively dead until we return to Fontaine

_InVerso_2026-01-17 20:37

Columbina hugs dead Sandrone.
Next scene Paimon burping. 10/10 storytelling.

La-Roca992026-01-17 20:43

So you skipped over the rest of the story on your literal screen just cause Paimon "burped" once.

10/10 reading comprehension

_InVerso_2026-01-17 20:45

What?? No! It was stupid and not fair that next scene after Columbina hugging dead Sandrone was some timeskip and no emotional reactions of characters to her death.

La-Roca992026-01-17 20:48

Her final wish: Arlecchino, dont tell anyone else except the Traveller

You: I will ignore that

The_Great_Ravioli2026-01-17 20:49

If you paid attention, you would know there are a dozen hints of Sandrone not being dead, which means a emotional funeral or farewell would be utterly pointless, you hyperclown.

_InVerso_2026-01-17 20:53

Can you please tell me at least one such hint after her death scene and BEFORE Arle and Wanderer confirm to you she is dead?

The_Great_Ravioli2026-01-17 21:00

Lmao. Nice try dork, but moving the goalposts to an oddly specific location wont work on me.

And I still made that goal, because the facts that she is a puppet, and there WASN'T an emotional farewell for such a prominent character exists. Any normal person would know something was up, but not you.

Big_Shower_75612026-01-17 20:55

It’s okay if you don’t like the choice, but it’s called a tension break. It’s to relieve the tension or stress people might be feeling with a moment of levity. It’s a specific choice to keep the tone from getting too heavy. Personally, I didn’t care because they spent a good amount of time talking about her friendship with Bina and watching Columbina feel sad and I’m sorry but in comparison with a lot of the people present, she wasn’t that important to the story or to our character. We, as the travelers, don’t have a big emotional connection to Sandrone. Her big connection and importance was to Columbina, not us. I was expecting her to die from the start because she’s the best choice. She didn’t have a design that looked playable (maybe one day I’ll be proven wrong here but I was right about signora’s design) so I didn’t expect her to become a playable character who all get more attention. She’s low ranking Fatui without a bunch of known connection to the deeper lore such as the Captain, Piero, Childe, Arrlechino, etc. she didn’t hold that significant a role in Nod Krai society that isn’t easily replaceable (she ran tha fatui experiment, half the fatui are frickin scientists) as opposed to Lauma or Nefer who have distinct hard to fill roles and again, confirmed playable.

Like it was obvious they were going to kill sandrone, it’s meant to be sad for Columbina more than us

WorstSkilledPlayer2026-01-17 20:43

Good job at not understanding the point the OP tried to make. You are a prime example of "Genshin/gatcha players can't/don't/don't want to read", bro 😂

La-Roca992026-01-17 20:51

> Then a scene with League, and then another with Nicole, still no info about Sandrone.

>Game shows off that she asked specifically to not have anyone else know about her passing, specially not Columbina, Game shows off her dead husk thrown away by Dottore, with on screen blood included

What exactly is OP point?

If it were the "Paimonhater guy" then there would be a point

All this thread is for is specifically skipping over blatantly been told about it, and then complaining about it not been specifically told more about it

DevolayS2026-01-17 21:53

You can't even write the word "gacha" properly... It's not "gatcha", the word comes from Japanese "gachapon", there's no "t" in it.

The_Great_Ravioli2026-01-17 20:34

Genshin players once again failing at reading comprehension.

WorstSkilledPlayer2026-01-17 20:44

You are another example of this, dude 😂😂😂.

ImNotTiredOfWinning2026-01-17 20:34

ngl, I kind of felt the same way. Not to the level of this post, but a little disappointed they couldn't have even huddled around her body and mourned a bit, maybe even dropped a tear or to for her.

_InVerso_2026-01-17 20:37

Exacly this. Such important character treated without any feels.

esztersunday2026-01-17 20:35

She had a robot body, her core was sent to Fontaine, she will most likely get a new body.

In the quest we have seen Wanderer/ Hat Guy 'stay alive' without his core. Ineffa's core was saved after hundreds of years, and got a new body by Aino.

takenusername50012026-01-17 20:38

The lack of care shown by the traveler after it happened solidified she's coming back

_InVerso_2026-01-17 20:40

The lack of care for this situation was really not good storytelling im this case.

LivingASlothsLife2026-01-17 20:40

I mean, I was initially disappointed a little that we missed the really emotional side of Sandrones passing. But to say it ruined the whole thing is silly. Besides they left room for her to come back, plenty of emotional stuff can be saved for then.

Let's say they did include a very heavy and emotional scene, if they bring her back which is likely, then people would say that the emotional scene is for nothing and completely devalued

clown_20612026-01-17 20:43

Either this is a rage bait post or op lokey is stupid af ( r word will get me banned ).

I think after sandrone died bro just straight up skipped everything else and expected tony stark like funeral at the end. Did you even pay attention ? Columbina was on her body for a long ass time, they literally had a talk later saying how arlecchino is not "telling" others about sandrone and is respecting her final wish and if you are even more desperate you can go and read the book which we got from arlecchino which ( at the last page ) implies sandrone has already created a backup so she is returning. And did i mention ? she's a fkng robot ofc she will be back.

7.5/10 rage bait. Made me type a few sentences.

Ravemst2026-01-17 20:44

Looks like someone missed some hints/foreshadowing if you truly think she's dead. As smart as she is you really think she wouldn't have a plan B also you don't seem to understand what comic relief is and it's importance in some storytelling.

atlasmothz2026-01-17 20:47

i'm not fond of the switch we got, but im certain sandrone isn't dead. major plotpoints in this quest were of death being defied and nod-krai has put a spotlight on robot cores being damaged but brought back so im hoping she will be playable! it didn't go as far as to ruin the story for me, it was just rather disappointing

IgnoringClass2026-01-17 21:18

You cannot possibly be serious with a post this unhinged, and if for some reason you are you need to get a grip and go outside.

_InVerso_2026-01-17 21:21

Thank you for your care. I am training regularly outside everyday so no worries here. I just think that if a story makes a scene for Sandrone that she is part of the "friends" group then they will also make a scene of characters mourning such a friends death instead of timeskip.

Bigslam19932026-01-17 22:01

She'll be back with a new body, I bet. I just hope they keep her personality the same, she's the first proper tsundere this game has (not counting Diona, she's just dumb)

_InVerso_2026-01-17 22:04

It was kinda sad than we did not have any dramatic scene regarding everyone reaction to her death.. especialy Columbina. I also hope her personality and memories stay the same.

frostN0VA2026-01-17 22:05

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_InVerso_2026-01-17 22:08

You mean ENG dub? Don't worry I use JP. Always masterpiece. Always top tier voice acting. Columbina is music to the ears.

frostN0VA2026-01-17 22:09

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_InVerso_2026-01-17 22:11

The point was that after Dramatic Death scene we got timeskip with Traveler and Paimon eating their full happy, goofy etc which seemed very out of place in this situation.

frostN0VA2026-01-17 22:17

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_InVerso_2026-01-17 22:23

My implication was that instead of seeing some characters mourning her death we get shown stupid breakfast scene.

It is not a matter of Sandrone coming back. It is a matter of not showing any reactions to her death.

frostN0VA2026-01-17 22:30

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_InVerso_2026-01-17 22:35

This story specificaly showed us the bonding, the reactions, multiple "family" "friends" "part of the team" moments. It was like a main theme. Yet after said "friend" died they showed this event aside with a swipe. If this a "technique" then I really hope we will never see such a failure of execution again. It threw all the previous friendship buildup out of window. Narrative treated her like a machine she is. Which is just sad.

G_Riel_2026-01-17 22:34

To be honest, I quite agree. They probably didn't want to make it super emotional because she'll be playable, but I didn't like it.

Well, I disliked other things too, but anyway.

_InVerso_2026-01-17 22:38

Which is sad because main theme was her being part of "friends" "gang". And when said friend died, the narrative treated her like a machine she was.

Powerful-Insect-48672026-01-17 23:15

Sandrone just got Furina treatment tho, nothing new here

Czzavarsh2026-01-18 00:57

Didn't completely ruin it per se, but it was definitely weird how the quest just glossed over Sandrone's death. Then again, it might have been for a reason, we'll see.

Xirtie2026-01-18 06:36

No, it didn't ruined the whole thing.

And there's foreshadowing she'll be back too.

Arnimon2026-01-18 14:16

I might be interpreting things differently, but wasn’t it already foreshadowed that Sandrone will return? It’s not stated outright, but that was very much my impression—especially from the instructions given to Arlecchino. Spending a lot of time grieving her would feel incredibly cheap if she’s coming back later.

I did initially think they should have spent a little bit of time on it anyway, though. For example, showing Columbina grieving for a few seconds in a black and white cutscene or something like that. I think that would be better than just telling us. But if I interpreted what I consider foreshadowing correctly, that becomes a very, very minor nitpick.

_InVerso_2026-01-18 14:18

Maybe it's just me but I really found it very...sad that we did not mourn her death. It felt brushed aside for me. I quite bonded with Sandrone during quest. Hope she will return.

Arnimon2026-01-18 14:29

I can understand that!

I also think you would get more sympathy if you had written your point in a calmer manner, since your post comes off as very rant-y and your argument seems to drown in that.

Sandrone was amazing in the quest. She'll return, or else the glossing over would feel very weird.

_InVerso_2026-01-18 14:40

No worries. Being impulsive sometimes is well...part of life.
Thanks for being understanding.

Firm_Breakfast7972026-01-19 17:17

Being overwhelmed by emotions to the point of losing the ability to think lmao. The wording is also wrong; she was never "dead," she was just "broken." And you mean you want to hold a formal funeral for a "broken" robot? Hell nahh. Besides, Columbina mourning her is enough, and since when did Traveller and Sandrone become SO close that he/she HAVE to be sad while knowing she can be repaired?
By the way, her "be destroyed" was clearly part of the plan, and clearly nobody was surprised by that.

_InVerso_2026-01-19 17:25

There is so much wrong with your post. Traveler had every reason to be sad as he was the one who should be dead but Sandrone saved him with his body.
No, her destruction was not a "plan" only a consequence. Everyone was suprised by that. She was not treated as robot/machine but as a friend. It just story lacked with showing proper character reactions to her death.

Firm_Breakfast7972026-01-19 17:36

Let me reiterate, it's not "dead," it's "broken." If your thinking ability is limited, I won't argue further. You can say it's a slight lack of presentation, that's fine, but to say it ruins the whole story is HELL NAH.
Calling her "best girl" only shows that you're simply being controlled by emotion and that your opinions are no longer valid.
And don't you wonder why nobody agrees with you?

_InVerso_2026-01-19 17:41

Lol since when opinion is "valid"? Opinion is just that a reflection of someone thoughts, yes it can be influenced by emotions but they don't make it valid just because not many people agree. Also my post is not looking for approval of people. It only shows that there are some like me who find it not good storytelling to show random NPC conversation about stupid thing instead of characters mourning their so called friend. Just that.