Skork does not concern herself about lunar reactions

Catalyst = TTDS Bot

Tenacity doesn't stack right?

Huh? People use Mualani on Skirk teams?

mualani is the best 4th slot though since she also holds scroll

I still prefer using my Shenhe. Esp since I got a free C1.

Mualani last slot on Skirk teams is so comfortable compared to her normal play style it's ironic.

She can trigger ttds very easily. Citlali can't, because you have to swap to the TTDS support just before Skirk which means enemy will always have cryo aura. TTDS actually gives her a stat she wants, and burst hits kinda hard because all the buffs are team wide. Hydro is also preferable since resonance. Not to mention she generates crazy amounts of particles with just a skill and fast normal so Furina needs basically no ER.

Part of the advantage of Mualani is the lack of off field hydro blocking cryo resonance. Plus Cinder City.

Columbina is still okay for skirk since the 4th slot options are all quite similar but as you say she can run tenacity whilst having overlap being a hydro catalyst but they’re mostly good for different reasons.

In summary:

Both: give hydro resonance, a bit of damage (though neither is making full use of their kits or usual damage) and both are hp scalers who can hold thrilling tales.

Columbina has extra hydro application and tenacity.

Mualani has better cryo resonance uptime and cinder city.

I’d give the edge to Mualani personally since her damage can easily be fontloaded around immunity phases and she’s essentially the version 5 version of sub-dps Navia, just swapping on and dropping 1 or 2 big hits of damage. Plus Skirk has burst mode so if you need hydro for whatever reason or have a pyro imbued enemy you can vape against, you can give Mualani the field time instead and still get a lot of skirk’s damage out. And if you have both, Mualani is probably available to sit in a Skirk team whilst Columbina is under a LOT of demand right now and probably won’t be available for Skirk’s team until we move away from lunar shill. Even without lunar carries, just having Columbina enable some lunar reactions for a non lunar dps or enabling a lunar wheelchair could help with enemy mechanics.

Why not just use mona then. Tenacity + TTDS carrier + omen buff.

I like Yelan just because I like the NA playstyle

I really hadnt considered mualani for a Skirk team... whats the rotation like?

but the vibe tho...

She deals similar talent damage to yelan + she can use ttds
So yeah, she's kinda competitive with yelan in skirk teams

If I believe hard enough, they will work together eventually. 100% trust.

less app = better since cryo resonance

The circle on the back would look lovely on Skork

TTDS + Tenacity set (although Furina can hold Tenacity too), no burst animation (because her burst only buffs Lunar dmg so you don’t use it) which is an upside vs Yelan, longer lasting skill (25s duration 17s cooldown, so 100% uptime), and does more dmg than Xingqiu (especially since she doesn’t have ER needs in a Skirk team so she can build full offense), plus Skirk teams don’t really need his higher application since Furina is already on the team and you only need occasional hydro to keep enemies frozen (and against bosses freeze is irrelevant and sometimes even detrimental).

There’s a reason Dahlia is good for Skirk despite his application being garbage; he provides two things Skirk would care about - atk speed and stagger resistance. His low application is irrelevant specifically for Skirk, which is why he’s bad most elsewhere but good with Skirk.

It will prob never come lol

Lunar Swirl When?

Skirk never left, her optimized walk cancel combos are 25% better than regular Skirk NA

Cryo needs it a lot too. Outside of Skirk teams it’s a really weak element with not much options other than forward melt teams. I guess they’re leaving that for Snezhnaya

It's weird but it looks like it won't happen unless they update Bina's kit every time. No pyro/cryo characters with moon wheels I guess.

there is 1:
3 lunar reactions, as many as the moons

One would think the Frost Moon would allow Lunar Frost.

My guess is Freeze/cryo buffer will be Tsaritsa next version so they wouldnt wanna clash 2 hyped units back to back. As for Lunar melt/Vape, my guess is its already strong and its better for hoyo to not give mavuika players another buff.

Money wise its good for em to make columbina niche so next version they can pwc the current mechanics(lunar) to promote the new mechanics (something related to cryo).

Well, the Pink haired new character that was with the siloets should be for that

Wait until Nicole and Alice release

Its selective emphasis. Cherveruse is the overload user. Lauma is the bloom buffer. Escoffier is the freezer buffer. Ineffa is the eleectro-charge buffer. Columbina is the bloom/electro-charge/lunar-crystalize buffer. For emphasis, she's the only offensive geo unit out of geo reactions.

My guess is the new cryo region will focus on buffing freeze/shatter reactions

There's no Lunar Vaporize because they don't want to buff Mavuika even more than she already is.

As for Freeze and Swirl... yeah, I have no idea.

lunar freeze: they dont wanna give cryo any buff before Snezhnaya.

lunar vaporize: they don't wanna buff Mavuika any more than she already is.

I'm not saying these are good reasons. But it's not "absolute zero reason"

Currently Lunar Reactions are all transformative, which vape isn’t, so I can accept there not being a Lunar Vape. Vape also has a decent place in the meta already (and has been a meta reaction since launch), so it doesn’t “need buffs”.

Amongst the transformative reactions left out, we have Overload, Quicken, Superconduct, Shatter, and Burning. And then there’s frozen which shatter requires to trigger. We can cross burning and overload out because even if they didn’t get buffs to the reactions per se, they do have their dedicated teams centered around using the reaction (Chevreuse teams and Emilie/Kinich teams).

That really only leaves cryo reactions + quicken. And since Snezhnaya is coming next, my hope is that they left out Lunar-Freeze because they’re gonna do something with cryo reactions in Snezhnaya. I’m also still coping that Rimegrass is gonna be a thing, and that will help quicken teams out a lot as quicken + rimegrass will help out all three of the elements involved.

Lunar Swirl really was a missed opportunity though. If Hoyo weren’t so insistent on only 5-stars enabling Lunar reactions, we could’ve had a Lunar Swirl character (though that possibly opens up room for a standard anemo from NK in the future, but that’s a long ways off).

Lunar reactions boost meta that was dying. Geo, plain bloom (Nilou etc) and electro+hydro (No, ororon himself is not a great boost). Other meta had been balanced before like Electro + Pyro with Chevreuse or Freeze with Skirk and Escoffier.

I think that only reactions which didn't deal A LOT of dmg (or have good characters for that particular reaction) get their lunar variants. Like most ppl didn't concern themselves with electro charged teams until lunar charged became a thing. Same with bloom cuz nilou wasnt meta (except for her release duration) until Lauma came out and buffed it like crazy. I have nothing to say about lunar crystallize cuz it's self explanatory. Freeze already has skirk and Escoffee and Vape is already a really powerful reaction so I have really low expectations for them to get lunar variants.
I can see swirl getting a lunar variant but I still have low expectations for it idk why.

Probably because skirk and mavuika exist already, they already do good enough dmg, no need to buff it even more

>absolute zero

>Freeze reaction

Heh... science joke.

My pet theory is that the original intent was for Columbina to be a Cryo character and the Lunar reactions to be Cryo-based but that never wound up happening. So that's why there's Lunar Bloom (Cryo doesn't react at all with Dendro), Lunar Charged (Superconduct is a bad reaction that literally nobody outside of maybe Eula uses), and Lunar Crystallise (Crystallise in itself is a pretty poor reaction regardless of the other element). Given that she's the Goddess of the Frost Moon, it makes a lot more sense for her to be a Cryo character than a Hydro character. But perhaps they thought that between Skirk and the Tsaritsa they were having too many lore-vital Cryo characters in a relatively short time frame.

Hoyo constantly chooses lore over practicality or fun. there are three moon authorities and hence only three lunar reactions. meh

yes lets have lunar vape so mavuika can hit 300k dps

they need to have something for tsaritsa

I think the real issue isn't the fact that there are three types, but the fact that each "reaction" has basically one single team with slight variations/ cope versions

it's not like dendro where you could build and fit many characters into hyperbloom/aggravate teams.

lunar charged is basically the way flins/ineffa deal their damage (if instead of being lunarcharged talent damage ineffa would just say her talent ignores def and deals x times damage would anything change?)

lunar cristalised is different, but in the end is just something you add to zibai s dmg not something you incorporate/build a team around

and lunar bloom is straight up lauma/neffer need this resource to use their abilities (like a worse version of kinitch/navia)

I’ve been running Dahlia since the banner they released on. He’s such a great comfort character. I’d rather relax behind his shield than have maybe 10-15% more damage. I figure a lot of people who went hard on the skirk banner got pretty high cons of him if not c6.

Is C2R1 Yelan better or C6 Dahlia better?

Lmao I just noticed it

Let’s call her… Red Zibai, with her… “eccentric” behaviors.

I'll like whatever it is you're smoking

Varka skip button broke, so Nahida and Nicole are assaulting him with lore yapping

Varka tried to escape lore yap by blacking out.

Nahida "you're in MY domain(dream) now" and he's currently in samsara of lore yap with Nicole.

Sparkle probably hack in there from the side just for lulz.

Varka being dominated by T-pose is hilarious