His failure is his own fault

What was the point of Dottore opening the false sky firmament? Without opening the firmament, it would be difficult for Varka and Arlecchino to pull down the frost moon, hence reviving Columbina.

Maybe I missed it in a dialogue somewhere, but that's quite a dumb reason to lose.

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Melodic-Historian3702026-01-18 16:30

He didn't lose though.

aenthovan2026-01-18 16:37

Right, it's about the glitches at the end of AQ, right? Kinda lame if he always has his kage bunshin tho

Tschmelz2026-01-18 16:53

He 100% lost. Just because he probably managed to get away, doesn’t change the fact that he got his ass kicked.

Ke5_Jun2026-01-18 17:23

Surviving the fight doesn’t mean he didn’t lose it. He 100% lost the battle because of his massive ego and multiple attempts to sway the Traveler to his side. Even though he was easily more powerful than us, he still lost the fight and it’s his own fault; he got too confident.

Hojuma2026-01-18 16:33

I assumed they could still pull and it was their original plan. I don't think they went with that plan on the spot after seeing Dottore open up the sky.

aenthovan2026-01-18 16:36

It would probably be very very hard to break the firmament tho, just saying he was nerfed really hard during the final fight. He could've killed everyone or just teleport everyone to separate places like dragonspine or natlan's volcano.

But that's how OP characters are usually treated at arc's end, they got lobotomized so we can defeat them

MiniMages2026-01-18 16:44

He could only teleport people to spaces he controlled. He did not have the power to send anyone anywhere he wanted.

Edit: Dottore was also aura farming when he opens the firmament. It was a way of him trying to demonstrate how much power he has gained. Even the Archons are not allowed to pierce the false sky (Mauvika mentions she will be punished for doing so at the end of the war).

aenthovan2026-01-18 16:50

Right, I thought he control space and time... I thought Tri-Lunar authority is similar with the 4 shades

Righteous_Might2026-01-18 17:11

He was in a process of overriding Teyvat authority (with the hollow-esque domain), simply having the power does not mean the shades lost their authority completely (not yet at least). That is why he can only control spaces that are already corrupted with his power. Yes, he lost in part due to his massive ego and superiority complex, though not completely with what the ending glitch imply (it has Dottore tech motif all over it).

Weaponmaster4702026-01-18 16:44

Nah, Nicole was chill before it and was more concerned with teasing and showing off to the "humans". Seer Angel Witch had a trick up her sleeves regardless of what happened.

Hojuma2026-01-18 16:58

>It would probably be very very hard to break the firmament tho

That's just your assumption. We don't really know since we never saw them do it without the tear in the sky.

Also, I don't think we defeated him.

htp-di-nsw2026-01-18 17:12

> It would probably be very very hard to break the firmament tho

They literally broke through the firmament with the moon during the AQ. He closed it on them by the end and they kept pulling. The firmament never stopped them from pulling the moon.

Vaiolette-Westover2026-01-18 18:31

No he can't. You're making up reasons to justify your assumption when it's you that just doesn't understand the basic mechanics of his power

fiersome082026-01-18 16:41

As an additional final boss aura point

aenthovan2026-01-18 16:44

Tru dat, he was just aura farming

the-foxwolf2026-01-18 16:59

I legit don't put it past him. Genuinely believe he'd do it *just* to show off.

Traditional_Elk20462026-01-18 16:46

Pulling down the moon was already their plan, they didn't do it just because Dottore opened the false sky. The should be able to do it regardless

Vasiliy_FE2026-01-18 16:59

He did close it when he understood what they were doing, but the moon broke through anyway.

aenthovan2026-01-18 16:59

Oh I must have missed it then

Nmerejilla2026-01-18 17:02

Absolutely no reason to do it. Just to show his godly powers. He also could've just dropped them from the sky

Vaiolette-Westover2026-01-18 18:34

Columbina literally doesn't the entire nod Krai explaining how the false sky blocks her connection to the moon beyond the false sky.

Him opening the sky thus enhances the connection.

I can honestly see why they paimonsplain things at this rate.

TheBirdNamedSparrow2026-01-18 17:19

Well we still don't know exactly what his experiment was

Z4D02026-01-18 17:25

he didn't lose, if he did it was plot hole, he literally stopped the time in the last act and we had the glitch at the end of the quest so he probably "Lost" on purpose for some reason, he could have ended the fight way earlier and when i was right before going to sleep i remember seeing a post on twitter showing that he literally helps us in the fight if he follow his instructions so thats just more evidence about dottore losing on purpose

Unique-Recognition972026-01-18 18:10

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Artistic_Cable62182026-01-19 13:55

«clearly saw Sandrone’s device and let it be on the ground» this device was broken

SeparateBumblebee5462026-01-18 17:59

he opened up the firmament to throw those moon pillars from outside teyvat! a lot of his attacks are originating from the tear he opened, so i assumed he was channeling the power of the 3 moon remnants floating in space through that tear

Vaiolette-Westover2026-01-18 18:30

Opening the sky strengthens his connection to the true moon = more power and it intimidates, declares guys godliness.

Between this and the general misunderstanding of how sandrone's formula works, it feels like people just didn't pay attention to the story at all unless it gets paimonsplained...

manhbeohauan19992026-01-18 18:34

Aura farming, he said it himself: "And in any case, it is only right that, before I end your lives, the world is informed of the arrival of their new god."

VictoryOk24602026-01-18 18:46

Dottore had "moon powers"...

"Moon powers" are connected to the moon...

Therefore, closer to moon = better "moon powers"...

And people wonder why Paimon explaining is a thing...

shirone02026-01-18 18:50

I mean dottore closed the false sky and they still managed to use the moon to break it, so pretty sure the plan would have worked regardless of what dottore did

unktrial2026-01-18 19:10

Dottore's powering himself up with the moons, so opening the sky increased his own power.

When Dottore realized what was happening, he closed up the sky again, but the moon smashed straight through the false sky.

InternalCode12102026-01-18 19:23

I don't think he wants to win

Famous_Room11242026-01-18 20:59

get the moon & spaceship inside his sphere of influence