What are your thoughts on Dottore? Especially after the AQ?

He dead….probably not 🤣

Overrated as villain tbh

same thoughts as for Signora:


lmao rip bozo, get obliterated

I hope he is actually dead.

Fun villain

son of a bitch

Overrated as a villain. Basically he got killed just when he was starting to actually be interesting

Hope he comes back so we can beat his ass again

Needed more set-up earlier on in nod Krai. Also was confused why he was so fixated on the traveller to such a degree that he came off like a rejected ex 💀


Unironically I think story should have been even longer to better flush him out 😂

Fun guy. Talks alot tho.

Personally I liked Rerir as a Villain a smidge more.

But they're pretty close.

one of my favorite hoyo antagonists

Rated him an okay villain before the AQ. He grew on me during it. I generally like villains who have a good point, even though they’re unhinged--and can’t stop yapping about it. Charisma is important for that to work. Dottore had that in spades. He turned out better and more interesting than I initially gave him credit for.

Hope he’s dead though.

Good villain and ex boyfriend

Overjoyed the asshole is dead, he was the main catalyst for a lot of bad in teyvat.

Bro glazes Traveler harder than FatuiHQ glazes him lol.

Forgettable villain who showed up, acted like he knows and planned everything, and before we even got to know more about him, we defeated him as a hydro traveler... what a joke

i don't think we're reached the conclusion of dottore's arc yet

Interesting, but underused...

He so far feels like a genuine Harbinger and one who's been sidelined or turned into a joke.

Sadly, once again he's just an obstacle that's easily cleared by the heroes and not much of an actual threat.

He hits right where it hurts. Bringing up abyss sibling and the fact that the world fails to aid us even though we have been doing so much for it was a very talk-no-jutsu move. His offer to join him sounded compelling and at some point it felt he could help us more than dain ever could. But I have to say, traveller did the right call. His offer too good to not have any consequences. Though I must say, after a while his obsession to the traveller and bringing up multiple "chances" started to feel kinda annoying. 

really fun as a villain, His VA made his yap sessions actually really fun to listen too lol

Good villain and he's 100% coming back. We still have yet to see the burning of Irminsul not to mention that glitch on screen at the end of the AQ

I think they did a "ok" job with him. Years of work on him, without really make us knowing him, but then, quickly deleted. And tbh, he didn't show a great show as "omnipotent scientist", got fooled a bit...to easily (why leaving 2 days for the NK gang to elaborate and prepare a plan, WITHOUT monitoring them?)
Then other issues but are due to plot(armor) and story reasons.

In short, he needed more patch. Lygus from HSR was real omnipresent and so, memorable villain.

As character, I like him, and I dream to have him playable...

Great Bad Guy but loves the sound of his own voice. But since we finally got to punch his face I'm willing to let it slide

I feel like they lost all potential with all traveler glazing dottore did. I expected more of him but in the end he turned into "villain whobtalked too much" thrope.

I love him as a villain a lot. The sweet-talking, manipulative type.

Honestly, I wish they had given him more time to develop his character, at least to the same level as Rerir.

I’m not a Dottore main, so I don’t follow every little crumb of his lore. That’s why I feel very little connection to him. I don’t really know his motives or goals, or why he wants the Traveler so badly, etc.

I think it’s a similar situation to Rosalyn, but handled a bit better since we’ve known him for longer.

Favourite Genshin villain so far, he is despicable, utterly morally bankrupt. But at the same time is generally threatening. He can hit where it hardest, such as capturing Columbina and turning Sandrone into Sandonut. Which is why he is entertainingly despicable

Might be the first actually intelligently written character. In fact, I’m not really sure just how far ahead Dottore was. It’s not just checkers vs. chess, there was or is some truly crazy possibilities that can result from him having had the trilune authority.

For a time he was basically shade/shades level of power, which we know from Inazuma are a higher power/tier of god entity. Among the various powers at his disposal was the manipulation of time. He actually used this power on the traveler and ended up advancing time for them by a month. He says he needs more experience with that power to gain finer control.

Well, over the course of the AQ he is running “experiments” within his shielded dome structures. How much time passed for Dottore within those domes? There is no doubt in my mind that he was practicing with his power over time. If we look to the AQ itself for reference, we see that Columbina was able to travel backwards through time and even interact with the past because she left a part of her soul (luonatar) behind.

Now here’s where it gets crazy. If a moon goddess can technically influence the past because a piece of her exists in the past, all of this possible by entering the reflection of the moon, then why can’t Dottore influence the past with the connection of his segments? Think about it, Dottore is a moon god that has pieces of his soul/self in the past. He could absolutely enter the reflection of the moon and travel back in time and influence events just like Columbina.

Perhaps his return will be made possible through this use of moon powers. Perhaps Irminsul gets burned because he is able to do this. When he is “defeated” in the AQ we assume he is gone as no trace of him is to be found. But could we actually “see” the actions of an entity capable of using time powers? Traveler experiences a loss of one months time in a blink of an eye at the hands of Dottore.

So just how far ahead was he able to think and plan? How much did he discover within his shielded domes? How much time passed for Dottore with those domes? Did he discover a way to return just like Columbina? If the burning of Irminsul is a “future” event, then it seems the answer is in some way, a yes.

Hope he's dead, finished, erased, deleted, cancellato cazzo.

He’s got panache but his villain speeches are incredibly vapid and nonsensical.

His attempt to appeal to the traveler, despite all his brilliance, was “but don’t you want to kill people for fun?” I feel like it’s been a while since Genshin has had such a generically evil villain, particularly because most villains at least have some sort of ulterior motive such as the gnosis or fighting against a greater evil. Dottore’s motives were mostly because he was just bored/curious, so it removes a layer of depth that could otherwise be there.

It almost seemed forced that Traveler was actually contemplating Dottore’s words rather than rolling his eyes the whole time.

That being said, I was entertained during the AQ and invested in taking Dottore down so from that standpoint he was effective. I’m not mad, just a bit unimpressed.

The pinnacle of “hype moments and aura”. I’m annoyed that they literally used Rerir just as a plot device just for this guy. In the two patches he was present in the story, I became more engrossed in Rerir as a character and the threat he posed than I ever did in all the drip-feeding they did for Dotore. Despite the fact that he was the mastermind behind the whole Nod Kai story, it felt like he was *barely in it*.

Overall I preferred Rerir because you get to know his background, his motives, it's a person you can't reason with, you get multiple lore crumbs for Kaenriah, abyss, moons, etc. Also you can see him get stronger and more dangerous.

Dottore would have needed more than 1 patch to grow on me. (Yeah I'm aware that there is foreshadowing and we know him since a lot of time) Finishing Dottore in 1 patch feels short for me.

(haven't finished the new AQ yet) but I think overall he is good. I just wish he would've been a little more I guess... Stoic? Apathetic? Not sure the word.
Like "I am a god and I have transcended mortal morality" and a little less "I know I am doing bad things but I don't care hehe"

Amazing well-written dude, honestly don’t understand all these people who glaze him like crazy, he is cool but not allat.

Many people also hate him which is understandable, he is a terrible person, a character who was literally made to be hated but damn, he is so charismatic and interesting, that disliking him feels like a crime.

So yeah, I totally like him and wish he appeared more ( if he appears again, which he probably will do, then it’ll probably look weird and not so impressive cause after what he achieved now, seeing him still be alive and doing some evil stuff will just… bad. He achieved so much and paid pretty much nothing for his lose? Plus I don’t think he’d be able to get as strong / stronger than that )

Although I must admit it would be both funny and interesting if he gained even more power in Snezhnaya and both we, all Fatui,Tsaritsa and even heavenly principles / witches would combine their powers against him

It was like being kidnapped by gacha **Josef Mengele** and finding out that not only has he fucking heard of you, **but he's a fan** and wants you to be his best friend/romantic partner foreeeeeeeeeever\~

100/10 plot twist I was both horrified and intrigued by.

Hope we haven't seen the last of him

He just pathetic did 90% of everything off screen, Renrir was his glorified minion was better written.

It inspired me to go back to Sumeru and read his diary notes and things, super interested to see where they're gonna take his character because he's definitely not done here

I love him so so so much, he might actually be my favorite character in all of genshin. I need him playable NOW

I hate him, and that's why I like him so much. He feels like the pure version of the character you love to despise.

He made good arguments.

Man I love how much I can hate him,he is a great villian

He and Rerir have been the first entertaining antagonists since his first appearance in Sumeru, and I'm eager to see what he's scheming

I fucking love him, he is so cool

they don't let this mfer speak for whatever reason, besides the "evil villain" lines

I used to hate him but honestly I think he's an interesting villain I actually quite liked him in this AQ

he is so peak i hope hoyo delves more into his lore

Great villain, but at this point i was just inmune to his offering of an alliance. It didn't matter what he said or what he could offer the traveler, so in my case, the dude was wasting his time with all that yapping

A fun and more fleshed out mastermind than anything we got out of Signora. Sometimes it's nice to just fight a villain in something that's unequivocally an evil S.O.B. And this definitely is not the last we've heard his name, if Signora is anything to go by, because the mess he created will have ripple effects across the world for a very long time. We're going to keep hearing his colleagues and the locals of Sumeru and Snezhnaya complaining about him for a long, long while.

i bumped into skirk anecdote in nod krai. would have been interesting to see how faux trilunar fared against skirk

Researched about the Moon Sisters and would've wanted Columbina as a sister: rejected



New research needed variables and wanted traveler to work with him: rejected



Rejection never stopped him tho and he never faltered from his beliefs and methods till the end. That makes him a great villain in my eyes.

he gets me bricked tf up in ways previously only achived by zhongli and idk how to deal with it right now.

He gave me All-for-One vibes from my hero academia.

His motivations are still very puzzling.

A lot of what happened in the last two acts went pretty much unexplained.

I like him as a villain, but I do hope we get some answers to certain questions before long.

I loved him. He’s evil and crazy, but he was seriously flirting. I was pleasantly surprised that Hoyo let the girls have this. I was thinking, “Take off that mask and ask me again to stay by your side. Might change my mind depending on what’s under there.”

Peak villain, how i wished if we can have him as a playable evil char in the future. But knowing hoyo, this is probably not happening...

He's a Fraudottore back then. He's a Fraudottore now.

I'm glad he seems to have survived since HoYo hasn't given us nearly enough time to beat the crap out of him. Also, Collei, Diluc and Wanderer weren't there to participate so does it even count?

i was just waiting for the Traveler to say that the world Dottore proposed sounded boring

I know him bringing up the Sibling is a straight shot to the Traveler's heart, but I can't help but wonder if only he was more meta than that.

Imagine him going "As a show of sincerity, you can have these." and dropping 1600 Primogems in front of Traveler.

Dunno about the Traveler but the players would sure as hell be on his side after that.

Still at what am thinking, his amazing villain with a lot of stuff that makes him hateble and likebel , kinda sad that he have fans like the fatui HQ 

Winter lazzo trailer burning irminsul is all I think about

He yaps alot, but I actually love every mintue of it unlike villains in other Hoyo games.

Loved him before, love him even more now. One of the most interesting and well written characters imo

He’s a good villain but like the Nazi, the only good Dottore is a dead Dottore.

Fantastic villian. Absolutely deserves to be 6 feet under.

went in with the opinion he's just a typical egotistical mad scientist trope villain but after hearing all his dialogue in the aq testing the traveler, he became a more compelling villain. still has room to improve and I do hope if there's a flashback, it's not sympathy bait nor something that could destroy his mystique like doflamingo's did. shame hoyo didn't let him stick around more with this power, now I know how age of ultron critics felt lol.

I’m glad he’s dead.

But as a plot device, he was a good villain.

Hate him

my thoughts are that i have diagnosed him as autistic, traumatized or both and i love him more and more every single day. he's perfectly written and attractive and he's my comfort character too :)

A pretty chill guy

I love his voice and I’m annoyed that they probably won’t make him playable.

Pathetic man. All this talk of godhood and the moment he sees an opportunity to cozy up to the Traveler he’s desperate. C’mon man even Childe had some dignity when trying to buddy up to us

Pretty cool as a villain. Had some good points, but boy was he going about it wrong! He better not fking come back and be redeemed to be playable, that would ROYALLY piss me off. We've already befriended half the Fatui already, it would be pretty bullshit if we Friendship-is-magic'ed EVERY Fatuus Harbinger.

He gives off the vibes of the primary “rival” antagonist for the Traveler. Like the key figure in his rogue’s gallery that isn’t the primary villain in the story.


I don’t believe he’s dead. Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up in the Space saga with us after Teyvat.

He's a good villain, but far less persuasive than they tried to make him out to be. I spent the whole time going "I want to stab him right now." When he gave me "limitless power" or whatever, I didn't even use it. I killed the enemies without his power. (It was time consuming and didn't have any new reactions or anything so I wouldn't recommend it.)

Excellent 👌🏻 EN VA is a joy to listen to. Dottore character is also a villain style I really enjoy, smart, straight to the point, confident and bold. Really hope he comes back with a win too (like burning Irminsul)

Kind of a doofus but in a consistent writing sort of way.

Boring. He's basically just a scientist who is greedy for power, that's it. I've seen many characters who are just like him, so I really don't care about him. Moreover he has no real backstory or any good reasons to want to have the power of the moons except for more power and he said he would only give one chance to everyone but he gave the Traveler a million of them which is contradictory and just plain dumb writing, like some of the most basic villains in anime. His dialogues were really well written though and he is very imposing I'll give him that at least.

Close enough, welcome back Lygus

Rerir is the more compelling villain because he gives off serious Anakin Skywalker vibes, but Dottore is more endearing tbh. I find his eccentricity kind of enthralling to listen to. Crazy bastards are fun.

Fun guy , everytime he appears things get serious and Hoyo lets the man cook. Also one of the few Villains who is actually threatening and the “One step ahead” ahh type of villain is peak

He's the villain genshin needs, we hate him and we want to keep hating him, enough of "missunderstood antagonists", we need dottore as the VILLAIN, a pure mad psycho, no good intentions behind him, just an evil motherfucker.

I hate him, but I ultimately find him fascinating; he was right on some points in his dialogue, but I still don't like his practices.

he focuses on what he wants n doesnt let anyone stop him from achieving it, not even morality. i love his personality, quite headstrong

I think he had a better reputation back in Sumeru when he experimented with Wanderer but wasn´t as fool as to believe he could become an actual god.

NK AQ made him look like a bratty conceited bad guy who got punished for being stupid.

i kinda don't like that he went to a more comical villain at the end and the whole "join me traveler" thing.

though i acknowledge that he does have a giant ego, so of course him underestimating people would be his downfall from the start

overall still, good villain and payoff was nice!! boss fight was really fun too !!

I HAVE NEVER BEEN HAPPIER TO BEAT A BOSS'S SH*T IN.

Been playing Genshin since 1.0 and I did dislike him for a long time for everything he's done to Scara and Collei. Objectively speaking, he did hurt many people. However, he's very compelling as a villain and I loved all the interactions with the traveler this patch. The way he kept giving the traveler more than one chance to join him kept making me laugh, like this man is so desperate to have them work with him after seeing how they've worked with the other harbingers. I really hope he becomes playable in the future because I think his voicelines and kit would be really interesting and I must collect all the original harbingers

Fantastic villain, his EN VA really sells it. I really hope they don't redeem him, we need someone who's just unapologetically evil to the end. And I don't think he's dead (or at least not all his segments)

Hoyo did very well with him. A great villain design

hope he dies a horrible death

The boss fight is amazing

and the sound effects when time rewinds or something, bro sounded like the World

still a bit lost why he doesnt want to kill us and instead wants is to join him when he's already omnipotent as he is

In the past I thought he was a Lot better. He was a lot more interesting to me when he was in sumeru

Him being a main villain in Nod Krai? bro botched it so hard he was so unbelievably boring

As much as I hate this mf, bro was actually right about us, i.e., the traveller.

Yeah, he's a brilliant scientist but has zero ethics, making him extremely destructive to everyone, including himself.

As a weak willed lady with 0 resistance against a smooth talker, I'm disappointed that there's no option to actually just join him for a little funny ending

Good villain. I hope they don't try to do a 'redeem' arc for him later just because some people find him hot. Good stories need real villains. Let him remain an evil piece of shit.

Personally preferred Rerir honestly.

Rerir is a coward, but Dotorre's pathetic. The former has goals I can sympathise with even as I despise the means, but the former goes about everything with the kind of impatience and fragility of ego I associate with children and narcissists. Rerir's fall was tragic, as he was put into a situation that he was honestly too weak of a person to do any better, meanwhile Dotorre just makes me want to sigh and face-palm at what shenanigans he's doing.

Like I can frame it all like with the Batman Villains: Mr Freeze and the Joker as Rerir and Dotorre respectively. Victor Fries is compelling as an antagonist because his goal is rather relatable as with Rerir. Joker and Dotorre on the other hand are just problems incarnated as a person. Where things get compelling is the possibility of cooperation and prevention of harm had circumstances been different - because Rerir's goals come from understandable foundations you can imagine how things could've been better, but with Dotorre it's nothing but a trainwreck from start to finish.

Imo Rerir is better as an endgame villain while Dotorre is ultimately midboss material.

The only thing he's good for is dying. I really would have liked Rerir coming back as the final villain after him way more. Hoyoverse accidentally made him so much better as a villain than Dottore honestly.

I loved him as a villain, and not only were his experiments so messed up he did them basically just to see what would happen. His total disregard for ethics made him very compelling.

I'm certain his story isn't over yet, I don't know if they'll do a redemption route but I'm a sucker for extremely bad person becomes morally grey person in good guy's friend group

His actions can't be justified, but he is hot af, and the character is insanely well written, including how he's portrayed and behaves. Frankly, Genshin really invested time in this, and I really hope they don't justify his actions later.

He’s a terrible person, but an incredibly compelling villain.The AQ really highlighted how well written he is.

I’m a bit shocked how easy the Trounce Domain fight is

Brilliantly written, every word he said had me engaged, wondering what his next goalpost was. Mick Wingert absolutely nailed it. Also he reminds me a bit of Otto from Hi3 which was neat.

He is absolutely the best villian in genshin so far...every other villian has felt like oh we're gonna beat them easily but no....I think his VA js fantastic and really sold his clinicalness yet haphazardness

ZA WARUDO!!!

Despite probably being the least morally gray villain we’ve ever had, he seems like one of the most convincing villains

Also, I bet he’s still alive too, I don’t know what the glitching out meant at the end of the AQ, but the fact that Dottore is known for creating segments of himself, and he is now just dead? Something doesn’t feel right

Stellar antagonist. Really well written and fit into the story exceptionally well. Fun fight, too.

Single-handedly carrying the only sense of tension in the game, without doctor we are villain-less besides the abyss.

His dialogue to the traveller in the latest AQ felt like it was breaking the fourth wall and talking directly to me the player and I loved it, it added to his sense of omnipotence.

Sadly though it all culminated in a generic battle of good vs evil with the obvious good team winning and him not really doing anything with his “crazy powers”

I hope they bring him back and I hope they decide to increase the stakes in this game and start killing a few people.

It felt weird bc his whole point was he and the traveler could create a better world without having to struggle or lose anything which would be a good point if he wasnt doing ww2 Japan level human experiments.

Also it's crazy that the traveler didnt make a single point in the whole conversación