Pyro Gnosis Includes (5.X Spoilers)

So as we all know, the oyro gnosis is still in the hands of mavuika. So im wondering jow and when the fatui will try to get it.

Im So excited to see it Happening.

I mean the only good contestans are Pierro, Dottore and the Tsaritsa herself, since the rest is lowkey too weak.

Or they go on a full on war with natlan and thats how we get into sneznahya, as a diplomat to stop this war.

So what do yall think ?

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Grouchy_Gap452026-01-18 23:21

No idea. And until we are proven wrong by the game, dottore is dead so there are only two candidates: Pierro and Tsaritsa

GroundbreakingBit5102026-01-18 23:58

He hasn't burned Iminsul yet unless it was retconned

Ke5_Jun2026-01-19 00:12

Dottore is **probably** dead, but the end of the archon quest hints otherwise.

We still don’t know for sure if the Dottore we meet in the AQ is the same Dottore we met in Sumeru (the Omega segment). It could honestly go either way.

There’s also the loose plot point of Capitano, who is technically not dead and technically still the number 1 harbinger. Considering every other harbinger the fatui “loses” has their spot vacated (or in Crucabena’s case, replaced), **except** Capitano, it hints that we are not fully done with him yet (especially since in “A Space and Time For You”, the abyss sibling is making a deal with the Lord of the Night and that plot point hasn’t been resovled yet either).

La-Roca992026-01-18 23:25

The theory since the end of Natlan was that Mavuika gives it to us as a sort of leverage to get a meeting with the Tsaritsa and grant us some sort of "diplomatic immunity" as we get to Snezhnaya

ElegantDiamont2026-01-18 23:27

Yea heard that too but i also remember that the gnosis is crucial to natlan and that she wont give it away... but maybe i forgot smth

La-Roca992026-01-18 23:36

I think she is more than likely to go Neuvilette/Raiden way on not wanting to be associated with it any longer

One because of severing her ties with Celestia and living inside the puppet

The other for knowing that it brings calamity per Skirk words

ElegantDiamont2026-01-18 23:54

Oh okay

Ke5_Jun2026-01-19 00:15

In “A Space and Time For You”, the abyss sibling makes a deal with the Lord of the Night that we still don’t fully know the details of. But we do know it involves reweaving the ley lines.

It’s possible when we return to Natlan, the LotN finds a way to restore Natlan’s leylines to its original state, no longer needing either Capitano or the pyro gnosis to sustain Natlan any longer. At that point, the gnosis will then be up for negotiation and the fatui will regain their strongest harbinger once again.

Costyn172026-01-19 02:53

We still need to go back to Natlan for Mare Jivari. Maybe the gnosis will no longer be needed after whatever we're going to do there.

fiersome082026-01-18 23:27

Don’t forget Arle, she got a power-up from the moon marrow

ElegantDiamont2026-01-18 23:29

Yea but is she strong enough tho and would she even do it ? 😭

I lowkey hope columbina returns to the fatui and the tsaritsa gives her the first mission, the one she always wanted

markcan_killua2026-01-18 23:47

ofc she is we’ve seen what first hand what dottore can do with the marrows. arle is pretty much a pseudo goddess now.

And colombina going back to the fatui would defeat the whole purpose of her story. She’s literally the tri lunar goddess of teyvat now and above the archons themselves

ElegantDiamont2026-01-18 23:52

Okay, so maybe arle will go there...

Yes i know but i want my fatui columbina back lowkey 😞

Neospartan_1172026-01-18 23:28

I personally think, and I have since the end of Sumeru, that the Snezhnaya chapter will be more about Pierro/The Tsaritsa recruiting Traveler into the Fatui by actually explaining to them what their mission is truly about. Then once the Traveler becomes one of the Fatui it will be them that deliver the Pyro Gnosis. Either Traveler goes back to Natlan and collects it through diplomacy from Mavuika, or Mavuika gives it to Traveler in advance as a bargaining chip for them to navigate Snezhnaya politically.

Either way, I think Traveler will peacefully obtain the Gnosis and then we can move forward *with* the Tsaritsa rather than against her.

ElegantDiamont2026-01-18 23:31

Could also be the case but I remember that the gnosis is crucial to natlan and that mavuika doesnt give it away so easily... could be wrong tho

Neospartan_1172026-01-19 00:22

The Pyro Gnosis was crucial because it could be used as a trump card against the Abyss, which was the plan Capitano wanted to execute. Mavuika didn't want to, because executing said plan required the deletion of Natlan's history, which Mavuika sees equal to losing the war with the Abyss anyway. With Gosoythoth defeated and Youaltecuhtin powered up by Capitano the Pyro Gnosis isn't crucial to Natlan anymore, though it's still a backup power source for the Sacred Flame.

YF4222026-01-18 23:58

Also considering the moon sisters basically state to Columbina the heavenly principles grew paranoid over time and statements in the past saying they got wrecked hard by Niebelung despite winning the war of funery flame and nailing a bunch of civilisations over the years its likely teaming up with the Tsaritsa to deal with them is likely.

kaazal_2026-01-18 23:31

With recent misteltein (or however it’s spelled) teasing/info, id like the think capitano is still planned to get it, whether its by dealing with mare jivari or what but i have faith, especially since the tsaritsa kept his #1 position

ElegantDiamont2026-01-18 23:32

Yea i mean the ignition teaser is in the future but doesnt that mean it has to happen in the 6.X arc

kaazal_2026-01-18 23:35

Very true, personally i think it would be very very late 6.x, like 6.7 or 6.8 that way when 7.0 rolls around we can just head straight to snezh rather than needing to go back to natlan and figure out what’s going on there with the gnosis first

ElegantDiamont2026-01-18 23:55

Yea saw someone saying maybe in the abyss twin quest

Zealousideal_Tie18322026-01-18 23:32

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ElegantDiamont2026-01-18 23:33

Yes so he would be the new archon logically, but if he gives it away isnt natlan doomed?

Zealousideal_Tie18322026-01-18 23:36

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ElegantDiamont2026-01-18 23:54

Ahh okay got it.
I honestly dont remember, I really forgot alot.

But isnt natlan culture gons, i mean with no gnosis there would be no tournamenta and an archon no ?

StreetWatercress86092026-01-18 23:37

i think mavuika will give it to the fatui for a price ? is my theory but i hope i will be pleasantly surprised

ElegantDiamont2026-01-18 23:52

I just really doubt she gives it away on her own

YF4222026-01-18 23:50

Traveller gonna roll up with the Pyro Gnosis instead with half the harbingers looking for an explanation from the Tsaritza about what shes up to.

Also Somehow, Dottore Returns.

Dalek-baka2026-01-18 23:51

Natlan helped in current AQ and given friendly relations, I don't see anything resembling open conflict - especially that said confrontation would be a very bad idea, even for Sneznahya.

I could see another expansion for Natlan, maybe Mare Jivari related and Mavuika giving it to Traveler.

ElegantDiamont2026-01-18 23:56

Yea its just my cope to see a war started by the tsaritsa.

I mean sneznahya has the strongest military, i wanna see thattt

Chtholly132026-01-19 00:34

Mauvika loses the gnosis in a bet during a drinking contest.

Ploffers2026-01-19 02:33

we really dont have any reason to believe that mavuika and the tsaritsa’s interests arent aligned. she fought capitano after noting that what he wanted was about “more than the tsaritsa.”

mavuika may just help the tsaritsa willingly.

Ellert02026-01-19 03:32

Ok hear me out here. We take it.

We go to Snezhnaya, the Tsaritsa reveals what she needs it for, we agree with her, we go to Natlan and persuade Mavuika to give it up after doing even more to help Natlan out. Mavuika gives us the gnosis and we become involved in her plan to take on the heavenly principles.

Ugqndanchunggus2026-01-19 05:07

Thinking about this, lol imagine if moontore or trilune bina was the one who pulled up to natlan for the gnosis gg mavuika