Nothing against Sandrone, but the ~~sequel bait~~ clear signs that she's gonna come back makes her sacrifice moment weak af. Death is meant to be permanent, not a plot device.
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arseholierthanthou2026-01-19 03:42
I think the importance of sacrifice having value varies depending on whether the devs are trying to deliver an exciting story or trying to start a religion.
To elaborate in more detail, Sandrone dying was an interesting one:
We all know she's coming back. I think HoYo know we all know it, too. So the usual OMG she's dead thing doesn't work in the same way. As a result, the story didn't spend that much time focusing on how sad it was that she died. One conversation with Arlecchino, but that was mostly it. Would've been weird if Arlecchino was a bit 'meh, don't care' about it, so that conversation had to be there.
Instead the post-death moments worked on humanising Sandrone. They showed us her backstory, and let us see more details about her more natural interactions with the other harbingers. And that worked to give her character depth, and will stand in great stead when she returns.
The death scene, too, wasn't really about the fact that she was dying, but that she chose to put that much trust in others. Whether that meant the Traveler to finish the fight or Arlecchino to deliver the core back to Fontaine and bring about the resurrection. It really showed the growth she'd been through and highlighted the end of her journey as a character.
So, while I do agree with your statement as a general principle, and would be completely with you if, say, La Signora had been resurrected in early Sumeru after being killed off as she was, I don't think that's what happened here. Not really.
Riersa2026-01-19 03:43
She has multiple time say sacrificing your own life is dumb, having back up plan just in case she has to is very on brand for her.
kazuyaminegishi2026-01-19 03:44
It would make far less sense for her to not be "revived".
She's a robot. There's no logical reason she cannot be rebuilt.
And even still just because she is physically rebuilt does not mean she is revived. Similar to the Aranara storyline, if she is revived without memories that is still a "death" in a way.
Possible_Answer90892026-01-19 03:51
Tell that to the dozens of Capitano/Signora wanters huffing copium and being insanely toxic about wanting them to be alive.
It's almost like resurrection after a sacrifice is a weak af plotline, and these Fatui-enjoyers aren't actually writers.
issm2026-01-19 04:02
Money > story integrity.
Omnipheles2026-01-19 05:19
This is one of the rare cases where it kinda makes more sense for her to come back than not.
witchlamb2026-01-19 04:04
i generally agree but i think in this particular instance it's... fine.
like it's obvious she'll come back. she's a robot. but her death is less about trying to shock the player with a sudden, unexpected loss and the consequences that come of it, or to show that a hefty price needed to be paid to overcome the odds - it's just a very natural conclusion to the character arc she's had all throughout nod-krai to this point, that she 1) was capable of outsmarting dottore, and 2) was willing to risk her life to 'save the world' with her 'friends,' a concept she would have found laughable before 6.0.
like with hat guy taking a risk to lend her his core for her computations, she knew death was on the table and that sacrificing her body to pull one over dottore was a risk she *may or may* not come back from. of course from our perspective it's obvious she will, but from an in-universe perspective, there's no guarantee she can. her body's an artificial creation, but what if no one on teyvat has the knowledge or skill to replicate what allain did to make her? 🤷
i think it seems clear she either had a back up body already planned out, **or** she allowed herself to trust her newfound friends to figure it out. (or both.) either way - her gamble is to showcase **her** growth.
titeefelix2026-01-19 04:11
I mostly agree, but I don’t think Sandrone’s case fits into that discussion.
First and foremost, she’s a puppet. That alone allows for the assumption that, as long as she can be repaired, she can be reactivated. She’s not bound by the same biological limitations as a human.
From a narrative arc perspective, I also think it would be interesting to follow what comes after her sacrifice. On top of that, she serves as a great contrast to Columbina’s more introverted personality.
zodiac84582026-01-19 04:28
We already have Wanderer's core being taken out as a deliberate plot point. There is a ton of setup that was done to not make it a cheap writing hack. Like the fact that we know Sandrone always has a backup plan. You just know that when she comes back, she'll be all huffy about everyone being sad.
Czzavarsh2026-01-19 05:11
While that is true I also feel like there should be more to Sandrone than just her role in the Nod Krai storyline and her eventual sacrifice.
LittleWailord2026-01-19 06:00
Nah. I wanna pull for her, and I can't do that if she's dead.
WorstSkilledPlayer2026-01-19 07:29
While I respect permanent character death as an emotional impact in my fiction, I personally don't enjoy (playable) character death itself as a truly goody-goodshoe player, especially self-sacrifice 😂. Of course, I know about drama methods like having stakes in the story, shocker value and "maturity" in the story, but personally I never needed character death for them to work. I view these things as a moment-to-moment event, so I have my "impact" for the moment and can cheer when/if a future moment-to-moment event brngs them back. Yes I am simple-minded like that 🤓
Does this make sense? I suck at explaining my "bi-polar"/double standard-ish feelings around such matters lol.
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To elaborate in more detail, Sandrone dying was an interesting one:
We all know she's coming back. I think HoYo know we all know it, too. So the usual OMG she's dead thing doesn't work in the same way. As a result, the story didn't spend that much time focusing on how sad it was that she died. One conversation with Arlecchino, but that was mostly it. Would've been weird if Arlecchino was a bit 'meh, don't care' about it, so that conversation had to be there.
Instead the post-death moments worked on humanising Sandrone. They showed us her backstory, and let us see more details about her more natural interactions with the other harbingers. And that worked to give her character depth, and will stand in great stead when she returns.
The death scene, too, wasn't really about the fact that she was dying, but that she chose to put that much trust in others. Whether that meant the Traveler to finish the fight or Arlecchino to deliver the core back to Fontaine and bring about the resurrection. It really showed the growth she'd been through and highlighted the end of her journey as a character.
So, while I do agree with your statement as a general principle, and would be completely with you if, say, La Signora had been resurrected in early Sumeru after being killed off as she was, I don't think that's what happened here. Not really.
She's a robot. There's no logical reason she cannot be rebuilt.
And even still just because she is physically rebuilt does not mean she is revived. Similar to the Aranara storyline, if she is revived without memories that is still a "death" in a way.
It's almost like resurrection after a sacrifice is a weak af plotline, and these Fatui-enjoyers aren't actually writers.
like it's obvious she'll come back. she's a robot. but her death is less about trying to shock the player with a sudden, unexpected loss and the consequences that come of it, or to show that a hefty price needed to be paid to overcome the odds - it's just a very natural conclusion to the character arc she's had all throughout nod-krai to this point, that she 1) was capable of outsmarting dottore, and 2) was willing to risk her life to 'save the world' with her 'friends,' a concept she would have found laughable before 6.0.
like with hat guy taking a risk to lend her his core for her computations, she knew death was on the table and that sacrificing her body to pull one over dottore was a risk she *may or may* not come back from. of course from our perspective it's obvious she will, but from an in-universe perspective, there's no guarantee she can. her body's an artificial creation, but what if no one on teyvat has the knowledge or skill to replicate what allain did to make her? 🤷
i think it seems clear she either had a back up body already planned out, **or** she allowed herself to trust her newfound friends to figure it out. (or both.) either way - her gamble is to showcase **her** growth.
First and foremost, she’s a puppet. That alone allows for the assumption that, as long as she can be repaired, she can be reactivated. She’s not bound by the same biological limitations as a human.
From a narrative arc perspective, I also think it would be interesting to follow what comes after her sacrifice. On top of that, she serves as a great contrast to Columbina’s more introverted personality.
Does this make sense? I suck at explaining my "bi-polar"/double standard-ish feelings around such matters lol.