Ignoring the 69 flowers, what has the world come to.
highlyregarded11552026-01-19 15:09
Begone, fiend
SoC1752026-01-19 14:51
I was at 39/40 (counting for story quest giving the final 6) and of course next kill dropped 4
gremmy_white2026-01-19 15:06
In moments like this I think - why can't I just kill half the boss to get 1 or 2?
crochet_god2026-01-19 17:59
you can join lower world level players and ask to fight their bosses
jaybird6542026-01-19 18:16
still cost the same resin though
lostn2026-01-19 19:22
if you have anyone else using that boss in the future, those extras will save you one run
kyuven872026-01-19 22:43
Or you get 3 and then RNG fucks you and you end up in the exact same position for the next one.
zerodissolver392026-01-20 00:58
or better yet, since most bosses have a shelf-life of 2 characters fix it to 4 at max WL. 46x2=92/4=23 runs max. clean, no surplus, don't need current MSQ's bonus 6. sucks for 1.0 bosses or exceptions like Eula's cube and Ruin snek but what can you do when the devs don't bother with fixing old content.
Nox_Luna062026-01-19 14:56
They increased the drop to 3 and everyone still faces this issue. I swear they're trying to ragebait us
nqtoan19942026-01-19 15:06
Of course the issue will not go away. The increased drop helps you spend less resin on the boss though.
Nox_Luna062026-01-19 15:13
True, there's atleast one upside to it
Ricksaw262026-01-19 15:07
I think the increase was to up to 4, but most runs people still get 3 at most, which in my opinion should not happen, and the drop rate should be increased a liiiiitle bit more to almost guarantee the 4th drop.
Tryukach092026-01-19 15:15
it just should be like HSR, no rng 5 each run (probably 4 in genshin)
Patient_Piece_80232026-01-19 15:33
If there's RNG make it 4 and 5. But I still think 5 all the time is best. It was fun at Rank 40. At Rank 60 it's not fun fighting the same bosses over and over to build a character.
AuthorChaseDanger2026-01-19 16:30
if it's 5 you'll still end up with 19/20 for the last ascension lol
jesthingjester2026-01-19 18:52
Better than ending up with 21/20 with 3 💔
Express-Bag-39352026-01-20 02:16
Then insane solution- exchanging boss drops for another at 2:1 ratio or 1:1 + artifact exp.
Arch1typ3_2026-01-19 19:07
Instead 4 or 5 boss material drops. Why not make it 6 or 7 instead to make it faster to farm.
Individual_Taste68622026-01-20 00:20
✌️
praetorINH2026-01-20 07:09
Let's make it 9 or 10 each time
aqbac2026-01-19 15:54
That's how they trick you. In hsr it's 5 every time but you need 35 so you still need to do the boss 7 times same as genshin
Puzzled-Cockroach-552026-01-19 16:12
But it cost 30 in hsr instead of 40 in genshin.
Not to mention 24hours generate 240 power compared to 180 in genshin.
Strider_GER2026-01-19 16:28
And not to mention Auto Battle Option. Just set the amount you want to run and be done with it.
It made farming soooo much less tedious for me compared to Genshin.
Play_more_FFS2026-01-19 17:47
We dont even have to use auto battle for the normal boss mats anymore cause of the skip tickets since 3.7.
ADertyBatch2026-01-19 16:25
You need 46 mats to max a character in genshin. That's 12-16 times... Double what's needed in HSR.
aqbac2026-01-19 16:27
I meant for the final ascension. You need 20 in genshin. And 35 in hsr
ADertyBatch2026-01-19 16:33
Gotcha
cartercr2026-01-19 16:43
Uh… no?
In Genshin you need 46 boss materials. That’s 15-16 times you need to fight the boss (depending on if you actually get a 4-drop or not.)
In HSR you need 65 boss materials. That’s 13 runs. (Period, because you’re guaranteed 5 per boss fight.)
So it’s less runs in HSR, and that’s without even mentioning that the runs cost less (30 trailblaze power rather than 40 resin) *and* that trailblaze power regenerates 2 minutes faster than resin does.
Mind you, I think HSR needs it more than Genshin does. A Genshin character still feels good to use a year after their release, while an HSR character starts feeling the effects of powercreep after only a handful of months. So a Genshin character taking a little longer to get built doesn’t feel as bad as if an HSR character took the same time imho.
aqbac2026-01-19 16:45
For the last ascension. Like in the picture. You need 20 boss mats in genshin and 35 in honkai
cartercr2026-01-19 16:50
Okay, but just comparing the last ascension with zero context is kind of weird to begin with.
BigNekoTiddy2026-01-19 17:19
Genshin ascension requires 46 mats so you need to do 12 ~ 16 bosses depending on luck, around 480 ~ 640 resin.
Star Rail requires you to do 13 runs at 390 trailblaze power flat. That's still 90 TP less than the best possible result in genshin.
The time aspect is the worst part because 1 resin takes 8 minutes to generate versus 1 trailblaze every 6 minutes.
That means it takes 64 ~ 85.3 real world hours to get ONLY the boss materials for 1 single character in genshin versus 39 hours in star rail. (Assuming you don't use consumables)
soaringneutrality2026-01-19 18:00
> That's how they trick you
The trick is... everything.
1. Characters need less materials in Genshin.
2. Stamina regenerates faster in HSR.
3. HSR has cheaper boss runs.
4. HSR has a faster rate of character releases.
5. HSR has a faster rate of powercreep.
There's no clear winner, but it gives something for people to argue for, whichever side they pick.
ImaginationNo80082026-01-19 15:56
Yes, the minimum is now 3 and 4 is like a 10-20% drop or whatever
DSharp0182026-01-19 17:23
The issue is that you need 46 per character, so you have to divide 46 cleanly if you want an exact number of runs for every character.
This was doable in 23 runs when it was 2, but with it being something like 3.125 at the highest world level, you might get it in 15, or you might not if you don’t get that extra one, granted, the extra 6 from the character quest does help cut this down to 13 runs, but you still need that lucky extra drop at least once to make it a clean number of runs.
Shopworn_Soul2026-01-19 18:06
I only ever seem to get 4 on my 16th run, when I only needed 1 more. It's like it knows.
_LFKrebs_2026-01-19 15:37
They increased it to 3-4 but it almost never drops 4, so if you do 15 bosses in a row with only 3, it's 45 materials and you always end up with the cursed 19/20
EddiePhoenix20122026-01-19 16:39
literally what happened to me. and THEN i get 4 when i don´t need it anymore.
Nox_Luna062026-01-19 16:59
It happened to me once, I cursed and then it never happened again. Haven't gotten a 4 drop for months now
External_Cucumber932026-01-19 17:57
Then you get 4 and end up with 23 :)
Grifoshka2026-01-19 15:54
Since you need 46 drops for full ascension, even one 4-drop run will save you one extra run. But the rate is so abysmally low that it's entirely possible to not get 4 during the whole time farming for the character and end up in OP's position
vankata42112026-01-19 15:56
They increased it to 4, but when I have 16 it is 100% guaranteed that I will get 3 not 4.
Salter_KingofBorgors2026-01-19 16:52
There's actually a chance of getting 4 now
LettuceBenis2026-01-19 16:57
The increase is only for World Level 9
kexit992026-01-19 18:01
I was farming for my ineffa yesterday; i had resin to beat boss only four times, and i needed 12 pieces. First, second and even third run gave me 3 pieces, and the last one gave only 2. I cried so hard
OmniOnly2026-01-19 18:02
You still get between 3-4. You either get enough or you don’t. As there is naturally 1 leftover if you never get 4.
slashinhobo12026-01-19 18:06
I feel like they increased it to 3 but drop the rate a 4 pops up. I feel like when it was 2 i got 3 almost every 3 or 4 i did.
SpacefillerBR2026-01-19 18:15
It's so funny because since them I keep paying attention to the drops and it's so rare to see a 4 drop that even thinking about getting 2 seems like a humiliation.
Crimson_Raven2026-01-19 19:19
Quick maths, 20 / 3 = 8.66....
If you get 4 once, you've saved 40 resin, but, you need to to then get 4 three more times to save the next 40 resin and avoid the problem pictured in the post.
Good-Commission11872026-01-19 14:57
every time i pray like pls give me for 4 and fuck no, what a scum
gremmy_white2026-01-19 15:04
I had 15 and got 4 😐
I am pretty sure game will give me 4 again just for shits and giggles
Excellent_Skirt11012026-01-19 15:53
You can get 4?!?
anihc32026-01-19 16:03
Yes at WL 9
Good-Commission11872026-01-19 16:24
world lvl9
Excellent_Skirt11012026-01-19 16:35
Oh, I'm lvl 57 >.<
Rouge_means_red2026-01-19 16:36
It's ok, it basically never drops 4
CosmicWanderer_012026-01-19 23:56
World lvl9 drops 3 guaranteed though, while world lvl8 or below drops 2-3 randomly.
Darkanglesmyname2026-01-19 18:06
I didnt even know you could get 4, thought it was still 2-3
princeofmay12026-01-19 15:05
Lol it's easy
Ornery_Intern44312026-01-19 15:11
Not even one drop from this drop was 4 for me . So it took so long only to realize that the quest also gives out the material
Ravemst2026-01-19 15:13
You had plenty of time before hand to farm enough of those before her banner dropped.
FrostedEevee2026-01-19 15:30
Not the issue that's being highlighted here
Black-Star_GOG2026-01-19 15:32
What about people that don’t look at early leaks ?
Kaza_IA2026-01-19 15:28
You had months to prepare for this though...
Grand_Protector_Dark2026-01-19 15:34
OP posted an image showing that they have 19/20 boss drop materials.
This implies that while farming for Columbina, the boss drops lined up in such a way that they fell one short. This means that OP needs to do one more boss run to get above the required amount.
Having to farm one extra boss because exactly 1 material is missing, is generally perceived as annoying.
The situation described is completely irrelevant to how much time for preparation there was
PrudentTry70832026-01-19 15:37
Address me
bruhmaster_jz2026-01-19 15:39
Real ones already prefarmed all of this boss mat even before her release
Jaded-Philosophy37832026-01-19 15:48
at least with that you could've farmed in advance
Turbulent_Cry_75722026-01-19 15:52
I see two funny numbers
Princess_Moe2026-01-19 16:08
and then last clear drops 4
FallenAngelII2026-01-19 16:20
Did you do the Archon Quest yet?
PojVicious2026-01-19 16:22
Every damn time istg.
Hanabi_Simp2026-01-19 16:25
Genshin sadly still suffers from a lot of old gacha design choices, like the material domains being locked by day, the weekly boss that can only be fought once and this uneven and weird amount of boss drops that makes you waste more stamina than necessary.
Just make it 4 or 5 all the time but make it consistent instead of having to deal with this shit.
survivorr123_2026-01-19 17:51
> the material domains being locked by day
this restriction was soft removed now you can farm every domain for a week or two after banner changes
WhoIsMrGosha2026-01-19 16:35
67 slimes
shiko1012026-01-19 16:38
So grateful I pre-farmed those mats when the boss first came out
ISakuRageI2026-01-19 16:53
69 67 7/6 is crazy
raflesh12026-01-19 16:57
you only need to drop 4 once and it still dont happen (in 16 tries)
Testtypo2026-01-19 17:05
Did you account the 6 you get from quest completion?
TrashySheep2026-01-19 17:26
Real solution is to allow conversation of boss mat.
2 for 1
Your excess now will be used to fill the missing one next time around
Steeleren2026-01-19 18:24
I've been asking for that in every survey since the release of HSR.
gremmy_white2026-01-19 20:54
This is the most sane, obvious and correct solution.
Which means it will take another 3 years to be implemented
Consistent-Emu72082026-01-19 17:38
I wish there was an option to convert extra boss mats to make into the one u want.
Now ofc it's too good so u can put limitations like the bosses shud be of same region nd maybe time wall it for first two three weeks bt pls hoyo give a feature like to convert extra boss mats into the ones u actually want
Andryh692026-01-19 17:39
I got 3 drops for every single fight and was exactly like you 19/20. Then the last fight I dropped 4…..I was just there in disbelief at how fate was mocking me
Rat-at-Arms2026-01-19 17:49
That boss dies in 10 seconds lol just kill it again
Master-Bottle3412026-01-19 17:51
6!! 7??? 67!!? 67 67 67😭
External_Cucumber932026-01-19 17:54
You’re gonna get 4 next time
santiago_IV2026-01-19 17:55
same thing happenned to me when i was leveling xianling to 90, and it gave me 3 boss drops when i claimed my rewards the next time
OmniOnly2026-01-19 18:04
I can’t see why. Unless it’s static you have a greater chance of being short than being exact.
Boring-Lion41082026-01-19 18:10
69 nice
Boring-Lion41082026-01-19 18:11
And 67 nice
NONSakayDCDS20102026-01-19 18:13
I spot 3 unaddressed elephants
DragonriderDark2026-01-19 18:18
I was 2 away from not having enough to max ascend Columbina. It is definitely annoying to have occur. And the more insulting the game could do for you, give you the 4 drop to spit in your face.
Optimal-Claim14072026-01-19 18:18
getting 4 is a myth. *my friends getting 4 2 times in a row while streaming*
ParadocOfTheHeap2026-01-19 18:20
Personally, since I hate the new item notification, I always want an extra one just so that, should I get more, I won't be bothered by the exclamation point. That means that I actually hate it more if I get the perfect amount. Well, that and just "having 1 of everything" for no reason.
Psychological_Fun_12026-01-19 18:20
Fahhh 😭
TheRealPetross2026-01-19 18:24
I got Hella lucky and got 4 on my second last run
im_Minder2026-01-19 18:38
WOA THERE Guy, lower it down a little
Beandealer4202026-01-19 18:39
Dottore ain't do nothing wrong
ZombiePiggy242026-01-19 18:40
Oh no 40 resin! I only get 180 per day!
MightySamMcClain2026-01-19 18:45
Same happened to me and i was 4 flowers short. Does it take 3 days to refresh the flowers? I thought it was 2? Or is it's 48hrs and then the next reset? I waited 2 days and they still weren't back
KaiFireborn212026-01-19 18:52
69 flowers and 67 slimes. Insane
jibbycanoe2026-01-19 18:59
Pretty much everything related to leveling up characters/skills is more annoying in this game than it needs to be. The flowers/world mats being limited and taking days to respawn being the most annoying imo. Talent books they gave us every day of the week but only for the first week then back to specific days. Why? Because fuck you that's why! You get 3 reduced cost world bosses but oh you only need the one? Too bad, you can only do it 1x a week! Even crowns being so limited is unnecessary. I've played for years so I've used a ton and still have like 15ish but even ZZZ gives you enough to throw them around more often for all the characters you like. Thankfully most of it is manageable by just being patient, but the Bina flowers really reminded me of how annoying they make it on purpose.
Longjumping_Plum_1332026-01-19 19:02
You could’ve added an extra 8 during by getting their seeds and planting them in your Pot.
PEAceDeath14252026-01-19 19:07
Fuckass dottore gave me 2 drops and 2 artifacts today, instead of 3 drops. Thats second time.
AT LEAST YOU CAN KILL THIS BOSS MORE THAN ONCE A WEEK
NurseZane882026-01-19 19:39
I perfectly know how you feel
Wygene2026-01-19 19:39
Happened to me when building columbina, kuki and chevreuse, the 3 characters I'm building right now. I swear genshin hates me
Environmental-Belt492026-01-19 20:04
devs should let us convert overworld boss mats already. I have so many characters that only need one more because the bosses refuse to drop 4 once.
Spina-Di2026-01-19 20:08
Haha It was the same for me. But the most frustrating is the weekly domain to level up talents. I have to play 3 or 4 more weeks to crown her ult and skill.
SeparatePrint23892026-01-19 20:24
i see what u did there with ur 67s and 69
gremmy_white2026-01-19 20:52
One of them was an accident.
One of them was not 😈
Federal-Rub-34152026-01-19 20:36
I got 4 drops on my last run which let me get EXACTLY enough for last ascension
Southern_Bar61422026-01-19 21:07
And then the game proceeds to give you 3 drops next boss, it always does that
Watsons-Butler2026-01-19 21:32
I don’t even care - I just want them to add some kind of way to earn/buy weapon billets regularly.
Vaiolette-Westover2026-01-19 22:03
What you now need to do is sit there and kill it again.
It's not that deep and you don't need to announce it every time numbers don't perfectly cater to you.
crickastic2026-01-19 22:10
If only they dropped 1 EXTRA at least one time
coffeeaddictfromcebu2026-01-19 22:32
Dottore would have given you 20/20 but you choose Columbina.
alexcercia2026-01-19 22:40
IKR?! for gods sake hoyo, just make craftable materials happen, i dont mind having to use 3 boss materials to craft 1, you can lock it to 1 per week, but come on, 40 resin for just 1 material?! And the rest will be useless cause they have no other use, you cant use them for absolutely nothing other than leveling up.
Paiguy72026-01-19 22:47
It happens EVERY time.
I swear to god 4 drops don't exist.
Zonnebloempje2026-01-19 23:02
Instead of crying about the actual boss-drops. Start asking for better elemental shards! There are tons of characters that need basically two bosses, because their material boss does not drop the right kind of elemental stones.
There are currently 2 pure Anemo bosses, one of which is a pita. So all I can do to get Anemo stones is farm that fucking cube over and over again, just to up my Chasca, Jahoda and Mizuki. Those last two do NOT get their own stones, and for Chasca it's 1 in 3 options...
I am now throwing Hurricane seeds into my Parametric Transformer, just to get rid of them!
fatyslayor2026-01-19 23:07
Nice
Background_Dot36922026-01-19 23:33
It was hard to beat for me without Lunar reactions, but now I can do them with my Columbina, and the only problem is resin.
Cursed_line2026-01-19 23:46
Its supposed to slow everyone down a bit. part of the longer term plan i think
SuuSuraimu2026-01-20 00:15
It’s okay. Remember, more rewards and leftovers
IsshouPrism2026-01-20 00:34
how do y'all get so many of the gems??? like, I'm behind of 5 characters but can't proceed on them bc i need these damn gems
meatballFist2026-01-20 00:41
For me it’s Dottore or any weekly boss and thats stupid blueprint of weapons hardly get any to make prototype weapon for columbina (still haven’t got one)
danteas142026-01-20 01:15
skill issue
most of us prefarmed
Z304LEGEND2026-01-20 01:55
Its a gacha game from a greed company, what did tou expect? I'm at 45 out of 46 but see me caring? Nope, ill just do the boss 1 more time
scrayla2026-01-20 02:42
They should just let us convert the drops to other mats
revo7472026-01-20 03:28
you can transmute all the extra boss materials with that transmutation item thing.
SwitchDoesReddit2026-01-20 07:18
Oh, so it's not just me that's always 1 short every damn time...
Legendary75592026-01-20 09:12
6-7 gems
67 slime
69 flowers
Im not sure if u r mad about getting 1 drop less or missing the 18 20 lol
BugsxBnny2026-01-20 10:37
It’s just one bro… do it the next day you can live without maxing out your character for one day…
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Not to mention 24hours generate 240 power compared to 180 in genshin.
It made farming soooo much less tedious for me compared to Genshin.
In Genshin you need 46 boss materials. That’s 15-16 times you need to fight the boss (depending on if you actually get a 4-drop or not.)
In HSR you need 65 boss materials. That’s 13 runs. (Period, because you’re guaranteed 5 per boss fight.)
So it’s less runs in HSR, and that’s without even mentioning that the runs cost less (30 trailblaze power rather than 40 resin) *and* that trailblaze power regenerates 2 minutes faster than resin does.
Mind you, I think HSR needs it more than Genshin does. A Genshin character still feels good to use a year after their release, while an HSR character starts feeling the effects of powercreep after only a handful of months. So a Genshin character taking a little longer to get built doesn’t feel as bad as if an HSR character took the same time imho.
Star Rail requires you to do 13 runs at 390 trailblaze power flat. That's still 90 TP less than the best possible result in genshin.
The time aspect is the worst part because 1 resin takes 8 minutes to generate versus 1 trailblaze every 6 minutes.
That means it takes 64 ~ 85.3 real world hours to get ONLY the boss materials for 1 single character in genshin versus 39 hours in star rail. (Assuming you don't use consumables)
The trick is... everything.
1. Characters need less materials in Genshin.
2. Stamina regenerates faster in HSR.
3. HSR has cheaper boss runs.
4. HSR has a faster rate of character releases.
5. HSR has a faster rate of powercreep.
There's no clear winner, but it gives something for people to argue for, whichever side they pick.
This was doable in 23 runs when it was 2, but with it being something like 3.125 at the highest world level, you might get it in 15, or you might not if you don’t get that extra one, granted, the extra 6 from the character quest does help cut this down to 13 runs, but you still need that lucky extra drop at least once to make it a clean number of runs.
If you get 4 once, you've saved 40 resin, but, you need to to then get 4 three more times to save the next 40 resin and avoid the problem pictured in the post.
I am pretty sure game will give me 4 again just for shits and giggles
This implies that while farming for Columbina, the boss drops lined up in such a way that they fell one short. This means that OP needs to do one more boss run to get above the required amount.
Having to farm one extra boss because exactly 1 material is missing, is generally perceived as annoying.
The situation described is completely irrelevant to how much time for preparation there was
Just make it 4 or 5 all the time but make it consistent instead of having to deal with this shit.
this restriction was soft removed now you can farm every domain for a week or two after banner changes
2 for 1
Your excess now will be used to fill the missing one next time around
Which means it will take another 3 years to be implemented
Now ofc it's too good so u can put limitations like the bosses shud be of same region nd maybe time wall it for first two three weeks bt pls hoyo give a feature like to convert extra boss mats into the ones u actually want
AT LEAST YOU CAN KILL THIS BOSS MORE THAN ONCE A WEEK
One of them was not 😈
It's not that deep and you don't need to announce it every time numbers don't perfectly cater to you.
I swear to god 4 drops don't exist.
There are currently 2 pure Anemo bosses, one of which is a pita. So all I can do to get Anemo stones is farm that fucking cube over and over again, just to up my Chasca, Jahoda and Mizuki. Those last two do NOT get their own stones, and for Chasca it's 1 in 3 options...
I am now throwing Hurricane seeds into my Parametric Transformer, just to get rid of them!
most of us prefarmed
67 slime
69 flowers
Im not sure if u r mad about getting 1 drop less or missing the 18 20 lol