Now that Miliastra Wonderland has some DPS-tester setups, do you think Hoyo should do their own?

It may not be necessary now that we have Wonderlands with which to test our DPS, but maybe Hoyo might be of the "don't make these, we'll do it ourselves" mindset. Then again, if they were going to do it, they probably would have by now.

It makes me wonder ***why*** they didn't make one themselves, though.

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babangelsin2026-01-20 04:53

Because if they did, people would have a better understanding of how team DPS works, they could compare their team performance to what other people could achieve with similar investment, etc.

This would prevent people from overhyping certain characters or power couples, and also be significantly less affected by FOMO. They would know that even if they have suboptimal or outdated teams, they could clear endgame modes.

Example: Thanks to skill issued people who could achieve 30K DPS with premium teams due bad rotations, when Neuvillette came out a lot of people overrated him due to being able to achieve 60K even in the hands of an absolute dumbass, which created the illusion of an upgrade, whereas he was in the 5K region of current best teams before Furina was released. Furina's release pushed him further up and at that point people's minds melted and everybody was convinced that the game was going through a massive powercreep cycle and started doomposting about every single older unit. Of course, the synergy between Furina and Neuvillette was an isolated event and it didn't affect game's balancing and other characters could achieve good results with Furina too, but Hoyo already cashed in the FOMO brainrot before people realized that. Same thing happened with Arle release, Natlan power couple releases, etc.

Cormacolinde2026-01-20 05:00

Testing my team DPS over the last few days really opened my eyes on a few things. Neuvillette has fallen quite far behind, for example. My C6 Arle is still holding her own really well. Mavuika can range a lot depending on how well I play. Gaming C3 is better than Diluc C6.

Riersa2026-01-20 04:56

I don't think they are going to make their own, the current setup is actually beneficial for MHY, now more people interact with miliastra.

WhooooCares2026-01-20 05:02

>It makes me wonder ***why*** they didn't make one themselves, though.

Because it's easier to sell people a dream than a goal. A lot of people pulled Mavuika or Skirk thinking 150K DPS was automatic because they don't understand DPS for real. Characters like that are made so casual players can keep up with HP inflation without a lot of effort. Most players are casuals when it comes to combat, that includes a lot of players here who think they aren't.

Hojuma2026-01-20 05:47

I tried some team I've already looked at gcsims of. I already expected my actual rotations aren't perfect but seeing as much as 20% DPS loss compared to theoretical team DPS was honestly humbling. I know I could practice more to slowly reduce that gap but as long as I'm clearing stages that matter to me (floor 12 and fearless), I'd probably won't exert more effort than needed.

SanicHegehag2026-01-20 05:31

For Hoyoverse, DPS doesn't matter.

If you have a boss with 20m HP, but it takes 3x damage from *Newest Character*, the actual DPS is pretty inconsequential.

nxtquy2026-01-20 05:49

While DPS-tracking tools are always beneficial for players to learn and understand gameplay, there aren't many developers who would find it worthwhile to develop and provide these peripheral tools in their games.

The primary reason that damage numbers are displayed in RPGs to begin with is a form of feedback that appeals to a vast majority of players. Most players are casual gamers and would not engage with DPS trackers even if provided in-game, but still want to "feel" the progression and power of their characters/teams as they level them up and build them. Genshin does provide a lot of support towards more hardcore players, such as with in-game stat/build recommendations. However, these systems are rudimentary and can't encompass the wide range of variables that go into higher-level theorycrafting and DPS calculations, which are easier to leave to the community to develop.

xVelunax2026-01-20 05:50

For Hoyo, training dummies are not a necessity. It is not worth paying someone to add in these features that few people will use without an ROI for the effort. Its better to leave these aspects to modding and have Hoyo implement a modding system to improve the quality of the game for fans to add features they desire without infringing on the money making capability of the game to keep development going.

darkdill2026-01-20 08:17

Too bad Hoyo is VERY anti-modding when it comes to their games. Use a skin mod on public servers? You can get permabanned for that if they see your user ID.

kazuyaminegishi2026-01-20 06:00

The answer is extremely simple and non-conspiratorial.

The amount of people who would use it is miniscule, thus it is not worth the dev time to implement it.

That's it.

Ne7herstorm2026-01-20 08:25

> The amount of people who would use it is miniscule, thus it is not worth the dev time to implement it.

> Teapot (weekly shop reset aside), TCG, MW, that musical instrument bs, maybe something else I forgot because it's even more useless...

KuShiroi2026-01-20 08:53

To be fair, all those modes offer new gameplay/mechanics with their own rewards so there are some fan base for them. DPS tester is still the same combat as the base game.

Ne7herstorm2026-01-20 08:59

So, from your perspective, addition to the main game is worse than the mode that will be ignored by the majority of players? No one downloads genshin to play TCG or teapot, they do it because they are interested in the main part of the game and making it better is their main priority even if some improvements won't affect every single player.

KuShiroi2026-01-20 09:14

I didn't say anything about it being worse. Please don't put words in my mouth. I just wanted to add a counter-point for your calling those modes useless and that not many people use them. They have their fans because of unique gameplay and rewards. Many people have also been asking for the customizable home since launch. Same with the music one ever since it appeared in the event. It's nice for Hoyo to cater go those people and give them something to do while the hardcore gamers can deal with endgame content.

Notkiller2026-01-20 21:33

But.. That would cost Money..