Columbina C2 or Ineffa C0

Hello I'm currently considering between getting C0 Ineffa or C2 columbina, this is what my account already has:

-Nefer C0R1
-Lauma C2R1
-Nahida C2 R0
-Nilou C1 R0 (columbina C1 can't replace nilou, dmg drop off is arnd 50k on the last hit)
-Flins C0R0
-Columbina C1 R0
- Fischl C6 R1(eledgy)
- sucrose C6 R5( sac frag, vv)

Justification of thinking of going C2 columbina: I want to replace nilou so going for columbina seems like the better idea, but I'm not sure what is the dmg drop off for flins team without Ineffa.

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ReasonableWarning5892026-01-20 10:21

What C1 Nilou brings to the team? Columbina should be superiour team dps wise, lunar damage bonus with her ult + personal damage + easy rotations for nefer.

C2 Nilou is gamechanger with shred bonus iirc and should be replaced with Nahida.

Since your Nefer is stacked with C2 characters probably she can easily clear Dire already. So i would make flins more reliable for the account health. I would go for Ineffa now, C2 Columbina later on.

If you dont care flins team doing dire it can stay how it is and could go Bina C2.

Darren_Fong2026-01-20 11:56

Hmm should I share my builds here so that it is easier to gauge what I should go for then? Since I really have no idea what to pick since I got flins by accident but he does good dmg while I got nefer and loved her dmg and the character itself... And yes I agree that columbina should make nefer dmg higher but my account says otherwise for some weird reasons

DaSpood2026-01-20 10:43

C2 Bina is better if you want to play more teams, C0 Ineffa is better for your flins team specifically.

I don't understand what you're saying with Nilou. In a Nefer team she should make no difference because nefer prevents regular blooms, and her res shred is on C2, you shouldn't even use any damage aspect of her kit in this team tbh, Columbina is an increase even at C0 unless you play very wrong. If you mean in a normal Bloom team, you should know that Nilou Bloom is actually the best team for DPS Columbina *thanks to Nilou*.

For a flins team, Ineffa does about as much damage as Flins, at 40%, with Columbina doing the last 20%, at least with everyone C0. Fischl isn't the worst character to replace Ineffa with honestly, but you do lose some of her LC buffs as well as the shield (and Flins isn't very tanky so the shield does matter). Also Sucrose should use TTDS in this team iirc.

Darren_Fong2026-01-20 11:54

That's weird, then why is my nefer doing lesser dmg with C1 columbina... Maybe it's the nilou r1 weapon... As for sucrose on ttds well, I would do it but I don't really like the long cool down of ttds so yea... Primarily trying to get C2 columbina for nefer only since I have no idea why I'm doing worser with C1 columbina... Is it better if I just show my builds?

DaSpood2026-01-20 12:02

Nilou's R1 does provide a pretty good EM buff for the team, so that could be it, but the extra ~140 EM should not make a 50k damage difference with a properly built Columbina though, her burst's Lunar Damage increase alone and her C1 elevation should more than make up for it.

How do you do your rotations in this team ? With Columbina in the team do you remember to hold Lauma's skill instead of tapping it ? If you don't hold, her burst will not have enough charges to satisfy both Nefer and Columbina's hits, so Columbina will "steal" Lauma's quills from Nefer, making Nefer hit for a lot less towards the end of the rotation.

Darren_Fong2026-01-20 12:05

Ok here is my nefer rotation

Nefer e
Columbina e,q
Nahida e,q
Lauma hold e, q
Nefer e
Nefer ca dash cancel ×3
Nefer e
Nefer ca dash cancel ×3
Nefer ult
Repeat

Slightly different from my nilou team

Darren_Fong2026-01-20 12:06

Maybe also because columbina is on the new set, lauma on serenade and nahida on deep wood

DaSpood2026-01-20 12:08

That setup is fine. If you wanted to really optimize artefacts you'd put Columbina on serenade and Lauma on 2x EM, but the difference isn't that massive, definitely not worth grinding multiple artefact sets over lol

Darren_Fong2026-01-20 12:10

Ahh okok, I pulled columbina to kick nilou out but for some reasons nilou is just better and flins is doing drastically better with columbina buffing him when my columbina is on serenade

DaSpood2026-01-20 12:17

All lunar teams want Serenade one way or another, just like all dendro teams want Deepwood. Columbina can afford to be on Aubade if someone else in the team is already wearing Serenade, but if nobody is, she has to be the one wearing it.

In your Nefer team, if Lauma already has Serenade, Columbina can use Aubade, though Columbina's off-field damage is the lowest in Lunar Bloom teams so it's not as important and it's why Lauma 2xEM and Columbina Serenade works well. In a Flins team, who wears Aubade and who wears Serenade is between her and Ineffa usually (whoever does the most off-field damage gets Aubade, the other gets Serenade). For Zibai, Illuga would always use Serenade so Columbina can use Aubade.

If you don't plan to get Zibai, you can put her on Serenade and leave Aubade for Ineffa and 2xEM for Lauma. At higher investment though (C2R1), her personal damage becomes strong enough that Aubade becomes better even if there is no Serenade in the team (at least for Lunar Charge and Lunar Crystalize teams)