This fkin dog is worse than papilla

Papilla you had Pyro Traveler & burning (kachina if you want to stretch) to deal with that shield. This fkin dog has no \*free\* way to deal with at all, pull lunar enabler or get fked.

Ive already tried Sucrose to group them but damage is not enough. (Tried variants between Mavuika + Sucrose + Xilo/Bennett/Citlali). You only have time for 1 rotation before the dog eats the chickens

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clown_20612026-01-21 10:02

If you don't have lunar characters it gives you just enough time to do one good rotation and that one good rotation isn't enough to kill the small dogs + it needs grouping to it's even more cooked.

JunWasHere2026-01-21 22:31

I managed to kill the first pack with Mavuika+Kazuha+Xilonen+Citlali. Got it down pretty consistently.

* The second pack? Timing that shit after zoning out to 3-4 regular rotations was pretty much impossible in the hour I tried.
* Might try again, but I'm not sure the break would be enough to kill the boss, since it still had a good 25%+ of its hp left and less than 30s on the clock during the shield phase starting.

The kicker? >!I was on Menacing difficulty. As a F2P, I don't want to know what you Fearless regulars who skipped Flins/Nefer are dealing with...!<

Edit: Good news! I realized I had Mavuika on the wrong set, managed to clear Menacing. :3

Bad news, tried Fearless, and for my mostly c0 F2P acc, they're plainly impossible as usual...

Ploffers2026-01-21 23:31

my neuv/furina/lauma/ineffa team cant even break the shield on fearless. it’s cooked.

BladeSingularity2026-01-22 04:03

FYI, I would send Neuv to the crab if you don’t already have a team for that. He can clear that room decently to pretty well depending on which teammates you give him. (Leave the Lunar reaction chars for this annoyance though, you’ll need them.)

MuchStick16812026-01-22 00:08

tbh mavuika did better than nefer for me
(no lauma, 0 luck on nefer artifacts)

DonutThunderDeluxe2026-01-22 00:26

C2R1 Mavuika, C0R1 Citlali, C0 Kazoo, C0 Xilo can do it on fearless

VincentBlack962026-01-22 00:28

The columbina ineffa train rams into it just fine, amusingly.

Much easier to nefer it obviously, but the wheelchair works too.

The other thing that worked for me was melt Mavuika killing the dogs on bruteforce, but it was way closer and harder to do.

Pan1512026-01-22 00:35

It took me 3 hours to get a 119s Fearless wolf clear with Mavuika/Kazuha/Citlali/Bennett.

That was with a C3R0 Mavuika btw...

BladeSingularity2026-01-22 04:01

I somehow got a 119s clear on Fearless with Mav/Xilonen/Columbina/Ineffa (most wheelchair looking team you’ve ever seen, I know). Note - on Fearless (and possibly lower difficulties as well, I somehow only noticed at Fearless), getting hit by the summons’ beam attacks regens energy/resource for your team. So I just spammed ults on the boss until the shield broke. Probably not the optimal way to do it and I’ll go back in another time with a proper team, most likely. I was getting tilted at that point and wanted the clear.

For reference - Columbina is C0R0, Mav and Ineffa are C0R1, Xilonen is C2R2 (unexpected double back when I got her weapon so I refined it).

mutei7772026-01-22 01:38

Evil of them to design the dogs to have built in grouping mechanics and not give it to the endgame mode.

Electribsh2026-01-21 10:09

stygian is out already?

Shaula-Alnair2026-01-21 10:31

Like most events, it opens at the same local time on each server, so it's out for some people right now, but NA still has several hours and will be the last to get it.

Notkiller2026-01-21 11:16

Stygian always launches exactly 1 week after new patch releases. The only annoyance is that it does not start early in the morning..

Nunu56172026-01-21 10:17

It’s a dog eat chicken world sadly…

Vegetto_ssj2026-01-21 11:46

Despite I hate this unfairly shilling, not pulling for not even 1 Lunar unit (not Dps, unit) in a Lunar reaction version, and after the introduction of Stygian, is a bit...reckless (unless you are really unlucky or new)

Ecstatic-Source60012026-01-21 12:10

This. Like Natlan, Nod Krai also has core mechnic tied to characters.

They will use this mechanic every patch for entire year in every endgame content

Is there any reason to NOT pull ANY Nod Krai character and after cry about it?

Is it shilling? Yes.

But thats how they sell characters. Its not a charity game

infojb22026-01-21 13:31

Also it's not like these characters only work in one exact team, especially the sub DPS, those are universal power houses

Rulhado2026-01-21 14:26

I think the issue is that in Natlan you can deal Night soul align damage with 4 stars, even the free one, but in Nodkrai you can't trigger any lunar reaction without the limited 5 stars

Ecstatic-Source60012026-01-21 15:33

Well, I am not saying there is no issue.

Its devs have real issue.

We have 100+ characters. There is no need to pull for new ones.

Only option devs have, make power creep or make shilling mechanic so new characters become sellable again.

Game exist cuz it generates money. And its top priority for them.

Thats why it kinda not optimal skip every character in gacha game and then blame devs you cant beat new content.

Iokua_CDN2026-01-21 19:32

On the flip side, you only need 1 Lunar damage 5 star and you get Aino for free. Meaning on all 3 of my accounts, I only needed to pull 1 5 star and I was good, whether it was Flins or Nefer, or Ineffa.

Pretty cheap price to keep up with thr Patch and the mechanics.

And let's be honest.... natlan 4 Stars sucked. It was all about the 5 Stars that patch too. Ororon was maybe the best damage dealer of the bunch, but even he was sort of fischl Lite. No one else was doing big nightsoul damage other than the 5 Stars

Cocoatrice2026-01-21 21:03

There is no such thing as shilling and kids should stop using this word just because they are salty that not everything caters to them. Genshin community is annoyingly toxic, just because they can't accept the fact, that normal gameplay mechanics, that exist in every game, is nothing wrong. Have you played Pokemon? Were you whining that your Electrict pokemon can't defeat Diglett? Because that's your "shilling". Normal gameplay that is in games since always. On top of that, main rewards can be obtained by anti-synergetic team. I literally had team of Chasca, Navia, Xilonen and Durin in co-op, then Chasca disappeared and we three were fighting bosses. And we did it. That's how easy it is. Hard mode is for casuals, for general base of players. And higher tiers are for more advanced players, including whales. Nothing wrong with that.

Then-Network-68612026-01-21 12:33

On one of my acc, I pulled for Ineffa,lost 50/50, got Lauma with guaranteed, Pulled for Nefer, lost 50/50, got Durin with guaranteed, pulled Columbina, lost 50/50. Yeah shit happens 💀 Lauma doesnt do too many lunar reactions. Some of us just have shit luck

13nagash132026-01-21 16:33

this is why I save until I can do 180 pulls. going to hard pity back to back is insanely rare, but if I only pull when I can afford the worst luck, then I know ill have the character I need.

Silentshadow7452026-01-21 14:48

Bro is getting downvoted for speaking the truth, even after saying he dislikes the shilling.

Classic reddit

Vegetto_ssj2026-01-21 16:16

This is why I don't really like Main subs; it's like we can't say or read nothing that could hurt OPs or Genshin characters. Usually I encourage ppl to say their unpopular opinions because not all are bullshits (how many good replays I found but hidden by Reddit for its stupid downvote system...)

Anyway, thanks

JDBCool2026-01-21 16:42

Why I pulled Bina and Ineffa for Flins.

Bina isn't exactly staying on Flins team because *what if I need a 2nd LR team*

Didn't want Nefer, and I don't like the Horse.

Bina was just an optional since I *could* just cope with Flins and Ineffa alone

Impatient6662026-01-21 17:42

I have Columbina and Lauma but can't do shit to that shield on menacing. They don't do enough lunar dmg without Nefer/Flins at c0r0.
Maybe I could try building Columbina as main dps but I'm not sure if it'll help much.

Velocity1112026-01-21 20:04

If you're playing Columbina with Lauma without Nefer, then Columbina should be built as "main dps" (aka just build crit dmg), otherwise you're not really getting value out of Lauma on that team

Well in addition to being built as main dps, you also have to play her as main DPS

Impatient6662026-01-21 21:17

I can try that. Who should I play with those 2?

GroundbreakingBite622026-01-21 18:25

Nah you still can't do this shit if you only have Bina and Lauma, assuming they're C0. You need the DPS or Ineffa at least.

Vegetto_ssj2026-01-21 19:58

Yeah, but Despite this specific SO, not pulling at least 1 Lunar unit this version is risky

Ploffers2026-01-21 20:53

i have lauma and ineffa on a top 5% DPS build WITH a top .5% neuvillette AND battle pass weapons and i still cant output the lunar + normal dmg necessary to break this thing’s shield on fearless. this isnt just a lunar check, it’s “own columbina/flins/nefer or go away.”

Cocoatrice2026-01-21 20:58

There is *nothing unfair*. Literally Stygian Onslaught is the perfectly balanced end game mode that has challenge for everyone. Just because some trolls are entitled to finish Dire, because tHeY wAnT tO, doesn't change that. Hard Mode, which gives the main rewards, is doable by anyone, even with skill issue, Menacing is for more advanced players, Fearless is for people who like difficult challange and Dire is for whales. Not everything is catering to you. Stop whining.

Environmental-Belt492026-01-21 12:04

I did fearless with c4 mavuika, c2 citlali, c2 kazuha, and c6 iansan. go unga bunga on the chickens and cc them with kazuha.

CharlesEverettDekker2026-01-21 13:49

Go unga bunga... More like go wallet-credit on them.

Silent_Bluebird_8772026-01-21 15:33

lol that's what, a 13+ cost team and a c6 4\* sure must be easy to unga bunga

abu_al_fuad692026-01-21 12:31

And you know what too? You can’t deal enough damage with a singular nodkrai character
you need 2 at least

One_Conflict46072026-01-21 14:45

I did with ineffa and columbina but it still not enough

awesomegamer9192026-01-21 22:54

It is doable with Ineffa Columbina Sucrose flex but it’s tight and needs good Artifact investment

Head-Photojournalist2026-01-21 12:52

SO is so insanely shilled it's either you have the puzzle pieces or bust. or be extremely sweaty and creative

Outside-Cookie43092026-01-21 13:50

Yeah for premium stuff its shilled but who cares take primos and protect peace menacing is good enough 1 feather ain't worth it

Draconic_Legends2026-01-21 17:55

Yeah I got my primos out of it, I'm already satisfied

illoterra2026-01-21 20:00

I barely clear menacing so yeah, ain't gonna bust my ass for an extra feather. If I'm that desperate, I'd rather spend $10 for BP than stress myself out fighting these bosses.

iam4ming2026-01-21 21:45

Ah yes, the bare minimum, plus missing out on a limited resource that would help me get more of the limited resource

StephanMok11232026-01-21 14:42

The newest premium team, or

THE JEAN

Edit: for those who said Jean isn't of much use here, think again...

TerraKingB2026-01-21 16:48

Don’t think Jean is doing much this Stygian.

bobnkirby2026-01-21 19:42

As much as I hate to admit it, you're right. If only you could send the chickens flying.

ShinzuTakirami2026-01-21 21:05

Can can cc them with her technically

Wodstarfallisback2026-01-21 21:17

You can, but they take a pittance of damage since you need to lift them from the ground and there are four of them so even Sigewinne doesn't work.

The best strategy for non-lunar teams is grouping them with Venti or Kazuha as they're quite light when they first spawn.

bobnkirby2026-01-21 23:22

I've been grouping them up with Kazuha the entire time and it's been pretty good so far.

Sunsettia2026-01-22 02:27

You can group them up but each of them has like a bajillion hp. Even with a Lunar team, you'd rather just go for the boss during the shield.

This boss is just disgusting for people who have none of the Lunar 5\* chars.

Ryuunoru2026-01-21 21:13

Jean indeed has bust

Idakari2026-01-21 15:38

Shillian Onslop

haseo22222026-01-21 16:06

Zzz invasion of genshin.

ZombieZlayer992026-01-21 20:42

even with the shilled team at c0r1 the dog is still so fucking brutal, I can't beat it and I'm nowhere even close to beating it

AmuuboHunt2026-01-22 05:34

I couldn't do menacing with lauma/Bina so I'm genuinely perplexed lol. It worked decently well with flins/Bina but I haven't tried fearless yet.

Ke5_Jun2026-01-21 13:09

It’s one reroll feather; it’s not the end of the world. Stygian has proven to be heavy character shill since its inception, with the Overseer being nearly impossible to clear without Skirk or Escoffier in the very first Stygian.

We already knew for months Styigan was going to be an endgame that heavily favored **current** units. If you skip all Nod Krai units then I’m sorry but you had to have seen this coming.

At least this mode doesn’t lock you out of primos like Theater does.

QuantumPie_2026-01-21 17:19

For a lot of us it's not the rewards but this is the first game mode to make good use of Genshins combat while being challenging for long term players on D5. Abyss has been a joke for a lot of us since Fontaine. I'm not a whale and had no NK chars until this patch and I've beaten every D5 so far. It took work but it felt great doing it.

What makes this one terrible though is all 3 bosses have heavy overlap in what they need and the HP has gone sizabley up. The freeze shill boss was doable on D5 with Ayaka and Escoffier but for the 1st boss here I've yet to get Noelle and Bina to work on just D4 and I have a top 2% Noelle.

I'm sure most of us will eventually beat it this patch but they did go a bit to far this time.

Ke5_Jun2026-01-21 18:03

I understand the desire for “fair” challenging endgame content, but at the end of the day the majority of Genshin bosses are a matchup check.

You still had to use Escoffier for the cryo shill boss so that doesn’t really disprove my point - I didn’t say Skirk and Escoffier; I said Skirk **or** Escoffier.

Also as great as Noelle is, we all know her DPS isn’t that great even if you have a top 1% build for her. She’d only do well against an advantaged boss like a geo weak one.

I’ve already seen clears with just Columbina or just Ineffa, so it’s kind of the same deal as the Overseer - so long as you have Lunar Reactions the boss becomes a lot more manageable, but you still need the proper DPS to take it down after the fact.

Imo, the three bosses don’t have that much of a significant overlap. Yes hydro is recommended on all of them but it isn’t needed for the Shocktrooper (who is pretty much the easiest boss this season), and the third boss specifically wants hydro, but you’re pretty free to run anything else alongside it so long as it isn’t pyro.

To me this season is similar to the season with the Herra/Sigurd/Operator - there are ways to divvy up your teams where you don’t actually need the exact shilled units on two of them. Still restrictive, but if it weren’t for the super high effective HP of the first boss, it’d be pretty manageable.

QuantumPie_2026-01-21 18:28

I've looked at more clears and I now agree, it's not as bad at a first glance. HP inflation still sucks though.

The way I've been viewing it is you need a team covering each archetype (EC, Overload, Freeze, etc). Freeze was kinda useless until Escoffier so I give her a pass. There was no alternative before her. Personally I'm lacking in dendro (Nahida is my only dendro 5*) and Geo (Zhongli is my only 5*). While they do release new and shiny units, so far the older units I've vertically invested in have still kept up pretty well (C6 Yelan Furina, C2 Arle Clorinde Chasca).

I guess I could now check team DPS in the new stage but I *feel* like the gap between Noelle Bina C6 Goro and Ayaka Escoffier wouldn't be that massive. LC was a pretty nice buff to geo teams. Technically lunar crystalize is advantged since any lunar reaction works for the 1st.

I guess my gripe is we went from D5 being compleatly doable with Ayaka Escoffier (my artifacts on Ayaka were terrible when I did it) to not even coming close to clearing D4 with Noelle (to be fair I only gave it 10m or so on mobile but the cyro shill boss was a joke on D4 with Ayaka). The HP inflation of the 1st boss is pretty disgusting even on D5 compared to when the cyro shill boss appeared.

astasli2026-01-21 21:21

There hasn't been any HP inflation in Stygian Onslaught. Both of the returning bosses have the same HP they had on their previous run as well.

Ex_honor2026-01-21 14:32

Putting Skirk and Neuvillette in the same team seems like a waste of DPS to me.

Electronic_Team39392026-01-21 15:14

Can work if Skirk is being played only on Burst. Youll get enough Void Rifts via Teammates

Weegee72026-01-21 16:27

It works in the right situations. Sometimes you need reliable damage from two elements. They benefit from some of the same supports and their own combos aren't too long so the rotations are flexible enough.

pdmt2432026-01-21 17:01

Skirk here only plays Burst only lol

Ploffers2026-01-21 23:34

in this onslaught it’s def a waste since neuv can basically solo the crab and skirk + escoffier can kill the light keeper. so, if you have those units, you can save everyone else for the dog.

Remarkable_Guest28062026-01-21 14:34

Yea. Like lunar shill 2sides is very wrong. I can't beat fearless with nefer c0r1 and columbina. I don't have lauma without her the damage feels pathetic

SanicHegehag2026-01-21 14:41

Step one, grouping

Step two, don't suck

I get that it's frustrating right now, but you have all the pieces you need to clear this. You just need to get your rotation better, and then you'll have it in the bag.

One_Conflict46072026-01-21 14:47

Even with grouping, the dog is still a massive dps check, at least c2 mavuika and c2 citlali (burst above 1.5m) is a must to clear it without lunar units

sometimesicri2026-01-21 15:49

I think the massive HP pool for the dog is kinda insane.

Usually these shill-bosses at least have a somewhat fair HP stat that allows for good gameplay to let you clear. But 12 million HP alone would be difficult for even top tier teams, let alone having a shill mechanic that caps out on how much damage you deal when you clear the mechanic.

I think the total HP stat on this boss is too high and overtuned. The shield is 45% of the total HP, and you cap out on 20% damage when you clear the shield, so it’s nearly impossible for non-NK teams to clear.

tavinhooooo2026-01-21 18:37

Fearless is clearable with c0r1 mavuika and c2 kazuha

phaideibackshots2026-01-21 16:02

>you have all the pieces you need to clear this

kazuha is by far the best at grouping them, which it looks like they don't have, sucrose or venti Q \*might\* be able to do it, but it doesn't look like they have him either

XerxesLord2026-01-21 15:13

It’s kazuha time

likfo2026-01-21 15:14

I cleared the fearless dog with Mav Kazuha Citlali and Bennett, all 5 star C0. (idk about ur build but I do hv sig on Mav and Citlali) I'm not sure how well does Sucrose group compared to Kazuha, but u can try the rotation in this video to kill the minions https://youtu.be/UCPTfbaqL1U?si=Yfyc2l37dIp3Sdj6

Edit: this video is NOT mine but I did used it as a reference since I do hv the same team for the dog

HERODMasta2026-01-21 20:05

so, that was the team I noticed did best for me as well (switch bennett for Xilonen), but I am missing like \~5s .. so, I will see how to improve rotations.

likfo2026-01-22 00:32

Try Petra Xilonen since scroll doesn't stack, also remember Bennett provides pyro resonance here

SkullCrackerJr2026-01-21 22:14

Triple R1 on the Mavuika team... yeah no shit it brute forces

Ulq-kn2026-01-21 15:35

best thing i have decided to do is to stop at difficulty 4 of SO since release, difficulty 5 is ALWAYS hypershill for the new character or mechanic and it's not really that difficult if u have the right units

alanalan4262026-01-21 17:58

The reward for clearing stage 5 is 1 artifact maker piece.

But if you can clear fearless then you don't need that piece.

So what's the point of stressing out clearing it. If i dont have the right chars then I've made my peace and just give it up.

Cocoatrice2026-01-21 20:54

Neither you need it if you can't clear it. People asked for harder challenges for years and Stygian Onslaught is perfectly balanced for **everyone**. Hard Mode, giving all the rewards, is extremely easy and requires zero skill to complete. It's even doable on low AR, especially thanks the co-op feature. Menacing is for older players, who has more characters and built them better. And Fearless is for those, who are very skilled with Dire being test for whales, who asked for something to use their C6R5 characters on, because they were bored by the game being so easy. Stygian Onslaught has something for every player. And main rewards - primogems - are easily obtainable by literally anyone. And even Menacing can be done by newbie, if they got someone to help them. I cleared Menacing few times on my AR25 alt account. But I stopped, because I really don't care. People should stop complaining, just because challenge don't cater for them. It reminds me of douchebags in Hollow Knight community, who were mad that Pantheons exist, because *they* don't like it. It wasn't challenge made for them. it was challenge made for those, who like it. The same is higher tiers of Stygian Onslaught. There is **no shilling**, it's just normal mechanics that boss asks for. Or are people playing games and when boss is resistant to fire attacks, they use fire attacks and complain, like in Dark Souls. Or even Pokemon. WAAAAH WHY MY JOLTEON CAN"T KILl THAT STUPID DIGLETT, WAAAH, STUPID GAME. This is how all this whining is. People being illiterate and not accepting that the game is for everyone, not just for noobs with skill issues. There is *nothing wrong* with boss mechanics requiring specific stuff to do.

icemoomoo2026-01-21 21:38

With natlan it was worse since it was a bunch of I dont WANT to use the free Kachina against the boss that makes 2 pillars.

Like its there, they gave you the solutions for free but people refused to use them.

CosmicWanderer_012026-01-21 21:40

What can you say? People are Stupid and also the loudest.

G00b3rb0y2026-01-21 23:08

Except Hard still only has a 2 minute timer this cycle, unless i am missing something important

Cocoatrice2026-01-21 23:30

It does. But I never really needed more than around 40 second per boss in co-op with random people to finish these bosses. And often it was around 20. Rarely we got such a bad team that it took longer, but 2 minutes is more than enough, *even* for random people with random characters that have zero synergy.

saberjun2026-01-22 03:46

But what if you can clear two floors and the third one seems close (yet so far actually)

Cocoatrice2026-01-21 20:46

And that's what it should be. Menacing is start of the the serious challenge. Fearless is for... fearless players. I will repeat it, but *not everything caters to you*. People asked for harder challenges *for years* and these are challenges for them. I do Menacing, because it's fairly okay. But I don't care about anything higher. And people should just admit that not everything is done for them. That's very Karen-esque entitled thinking, that "I can't do that, so it's bad".

Varglord2026-01-21 23:45

>People asked for harder challenges *for years* and these are challenges for them.

I'm one of those people and the dog sucks ass. It's not challenging. Past rotations there have been fights that are interesting and present challenges that you can work around the shill with smart team building and solid play. Hoyo saw that and decided they couldn't have that so they said fuck you and made the dog the most hard-locked shill yet.

VincentBlack962026-01-22 00:31

It has 2 avenues of clearing.

A) direct to boss with lunar

B) kill the adds

The existence of B is how every stygian boss has been. They offer an easy shilled way, then a more demanding bruteforce.

Always been the case. The dog's issue is mostly being super tanky. Also its mechanic repeats a minute after being cleared meaning the speed at which you clear the first iteration governs whether you get a final rotation in the last 15-20 seconds.

Drense2026-01-22 01:05

the challenge is having the shiny character... that is just not fun imo i would love if fearless were hard because needs high skill gameplay but that isnt really the case, is just have that character or be ready to struggle against a sponge of hp with unfun mechanics, is just greedy and bad desing from hoyos part
you have nod krai? good, have fun
you dont have nod krai? fuck you man i dont want you to enjoy my game

i think that isnt the challenging content people ask for

JFL992026-01-21 23:49

I don't think people asking for harder challenges wanted a "pull this unit or fku" kinda boss.

Ulq-kn2026-01-22 00:20

i'm not saying it is bad, it is just that it is impossible to make an actual hard content in a gacha game, the only times i would say the game was actually difficult is during 1.3 tower defence in floor 11 and the consecrated beasts back in late sumeru, other than that it is more about team check

newplayer1352026-01-22 01:45

This is not a "hard challenge". This is a "pull Lunar and it's piss easy" (I know casual players who are not particularly skilled who have cleared Dire with C0R1 lunar) or "mathematically impossible with 90% of units in the game".

I personally can beat this as well. But not with any other character other than Lunar or Mavuika. How anyone can find that kind of content "fun" is beyond me.

jkelleyk2026-01-22 19:56

While yes that’s what Stygian is MEANT to be that’s not what THIS Stygian is I mean I nearly cleared DIRE with a c0 Flins

Chipies2026-01-21 15:38

It's a doggie dog world

CompetitiveStreak2026-01-21 15:39

>You have only one rotation before the dog eats the chickens

Never did I think I'd hear those words from a Genshin player. I'm so excited for this boss

Historical_Twist99692026-01-21 15:43

You guys don't coop? Why do hard work and then complain. Can still get primos.

Azrael9562026-01-21 15:44

I’m so dreading it bc I only have flins premium for my only lunar team but he’s the only team I have that can beat the second boss quick enough. No idea what I’m gonna do for the first one 😭

Frost_Niflheim2026-01-22 01:46

Do you have varesa and chevreuse? I bruteforced him with Varesa Overload, but I have Durin now.

pdmt2432026-01-21 16:57

use Kazuha or any groupers you have (Sucrose or Venti, but Venti needs burst) instead of Bennett. At the start, when the little dogs are summoned, group them right away, then unload you Mavuika damage as normal, that should take care of the little dogs if you have good damage

TheMrPotMask2026-01-21 17:19

Thankfully I only have to do hard difficulty for the primos

Ok_Way_29112026-01-21 17:47

Honestly even with lunar i thought the adds were bullshit on fearless

Basically just ignored them and focused the dog down

nghigaxx2026-01-21 18:19

1st time kazuha is really needed

AleksBh2026-01-21 18:22

I hate that fire crab more than other 2 bosses.

yetaa2026-01-21 18:48

Yeh if you don't have a Lunar DPS you can't clear it.

My R1 Mav Melt team only just gets through D4 Dog, its absurd.

JewelKnightJess2026-01-21 19:22

As always, I took my primos and dipped. It's just an artifact domain for a week now.

rocketgrunt892026-01-21 19:41

I was half half on ineffa but this SO convinced me to pull anddddd, i cant use it to beat the dog. Its like half before it runs away

rocketgrunt892026-01-21 19:43

remind me why i pulled durin for

Baskema2026-01-21 19:58

I legit can’t get past the Emperor of Fire and Iron- completed the other two easy. I can’t do it with Neuvi, Yelan, Xinqui, Citlali, Bennett, Xilonen- I tried everything. I have an R5 Jade on Neuvi too. I have no clue what to do with

KPmine12026-01-21 20:04

Can someone tell me how bad this dog is? I haven’t touched it yet

MCuri32026-01-21 21:42

On Menacing+ it goes into phase right away, so you don't really have time to charge bursts. When it does, it spawns 4 birds, which don't move and are an inconvenient distance away from eachother for most DPS characters. It also gains a shield which is more vulnerable (x2 I think?) to Lunar damage. If you kill the birds, it chunks the shield, or you can attack the boss directly to break its shield. If you do the mechanic, the boss takes a big chunk of damage and doesn't do its "ultimate move" (which is a joke btw). If you don't, you have to deal with its disgusting sponginess.

In other words, there's 2 ways to deal with its mechanic:

1. Use Lunar damage to attack the boss, ignoring the birds and destroying its shield. Worth noting that you need really high Lunar damage to do this, so basically need one of the meta Lunar teams (Nefer + Lauma or Flins + Ineffa or Columbina with any of them).

2. Use grouping and high multi-target damage to kill the birds and break the shield that way. The only reliable grouper for this is Kazuha, since Venti is burst-reliant and Sucrose E doesn't cut it.

Don't bother with the birds if you're running a Lunar team (unless you can run Kazuha w/ Flins I guess), and don't bother trying to hit the boss shield directly if you're not running a Lunar team.

Icy_Slice_90882026-01-21 20:25

Papilla you could at least use 4 stars if you didn’t pull in Natlan

Lunar reactions being locked behind 5 stars is the biggest chud move hoyo has ever made with Genshin

Ryuunoru2026-01-21 21:12

I destroyed it with brute force. Lunar Reaction DMG? Hah, screw that. Go go gadget SkirkYelanEscoffierCitlali!

Graveyard_012026-01-21 21:16

Use kazuha, or sucrose, inplace of bennett to cc the summons.

I ended up using sac fragments citlali for this, and just burst down the summons using Mauvika bust. Had to learn the Mauvika combo though.

wait2late2026-01-21 21:16

That dog is honestly the worst. Also the crab, I barely made it to 120s after several attempts and I could not believe I killed the crab.

I have the same team on the second boss, but I am not dealing enough damage to break the shields.

LittleBumblebee2142026-01-21 21:24

I can't do crab 😭

TheIndoraptor1232026-01-21 21:48

Even WITH Lunar teams that dog is a bitch (no pun intended). I used Nilou (C2R1), Nahida (C0R1), Bina (C0) and Lauma (C0R1) on it and the most I managed even at the second "Fuck you I'm invincible" phase was down to like 10% shield. And ik its not my Bina doing ass dmg bc I've tested this team in MW Test Dummy and it does the most dmg (prob bc its ST). Even THEN, I BARELY MANAGED TO CLEAR MENACING. Praying for u non-shilled chrs havers and Fearless/Dire players

-Shougetsu-2026-01-21 21:54

I had difficulty clearing *Menacing* today, despite the fact that I have both Ineffa and Columbina, on fairly decent builds too. Meanwhile, the previous Stygian was an absolute walk in the park on Fearless, even though I had basically none of the massively shilled characters for that cycle (besides Durin, I suppose).

That abyss dog is by far the most cancerous thing they've decided to throw into this end game mode and I sincerely hope it never ever comes back. I'd much rather fight the Papilla thrice in Stygian and have it be on both sides of the Spiral Abyss.

bastard_pixie2026-01-21 21:55

Maybe it’s just mobile problems but I tried with nefer, lauma, aino, and kuki, still couldn’t do it 😭 that thing is insane. I killed the others just fine but I can’t even get through the chickens before he eats them ;-;

Semyon2026-01-21 22:13

I can kill any 2 but then don't have the right characters for the third

MaterialAd9902026-01-21 22:17

I used Mavuika Ineffa Columbina Xilonen and I **still** only managed to clear in 120s on the dot.

Mavuika top 3% with R5 Serpent Spine, Ineffa & Columbina with solid builds.

Shilling is one thing. Now I'm starting to get the feeling they want you to start pulling constellations/sigs as well, just to clear Fearless.

edit: Turns out I can clear a bit quicker in 110s with Durin Ineffa Columbina Sucrose.

It felt a lot easier just ignoring the chickens and going after the dog instead. The chickens have way too much HP, and you need to kill all of them... easier to just go straight for the boss.

CreativityOverdrive2026-01-21 22:20

I agree. At least with Papilla you could counter its gimmick via rapid element appliance like in burning or overload. This new boss doesn’t have any other solid option outside of lunar reaction damage except brute forcing HUGE damage against its summons. Even with lunar reactions, though, you still need good and consistant damage for them. With my Columbina and Ineffa at C0 without their sigs, I can get close to killing it since they provide enough reaction damage to just barely get past its shield, but I very much don’t see myself killing it without a Nod Krai main dps cuz my current main DPS or other characters that work in that team aren’t good enough.

Stealthless2026-01-21 22:53

Horrific credit card checker game mode. Scrap it.

Lulu_The_Nerd2026-01-22 00:13

I cleared hard pretty easily so I thought maybe I could finally do menacing. Nope not even a chance

mutei7772026-01-22 01:37

In my case the electro beams time themselves perfectly to fuck up kazuha cryo burst. I cant really squeeze in kazuha in those 15 or so seconds without losing

zooap632026-01-22 02:41

Do you really hate the Nod Krai characters that much? It seems you pulled every previous premium team. I know this is a complaint about shill but you can pull the archon today or just not sweat it over a feather.

ConstellationTwo2026-01-22 07:39

why tf minions have that much hp if you're gonna make them spread out this is ridiculous

KeiraFenyx2026-01-22 08:27

Maybe I'm speaking from a position of privilege as someone who has played Genshin for 5 years, who has damn near the entire roster and has cleared Fearless in every Stygian since it launched, but you don't have to clear Fearless if you just want Primogems. Just do Hard mode and forget about the reroll feathers.

Engelberti2026-01-22 13:14

I know i don't "have to" clear it.

But this will be the first SO where I'll have to stop after clearing hard.

I don't care about the feather (i still have like 7 of them unused). I wouldn't even care if there were primos on the line.

I care because an endgame activity has evolved to a point where I can no longer reach the same point as I did last time.
Next they will put the dog in spiral abyss and then I'll stop being able to 36 star it as well.

I don't like seeing these activities break away and become irrelevant to me in a game I like.

Primary_Agent692026-01-22 08:59

e como faz com o imperador de fogo sem neuvillete? kkkkk só mama

smashsenpai2026-01-22 09:10

If you skipped every lunar character, you're not going to have a good time in endgame content. You should have known that after seeing all the nightsoul requirements in endgame while you were in Natlan.

AncientPomegranate192026-01-22 20:03

I used Nilou, Nahida, Lauma, and Barbara and cleared it with no problem.

Boring_Jellyfish2832026-01-23 11:00

I am close to beating the first boss with mavukia. Im trying to learn how to do her best combo so I can finally beat it

AntAppropriate2026-01-24 17:05

I used nefer bina aino and venti and beat it