if you focus the minions on the first boss you don't need hydro, it would need a kazu to pull the chickens together though
SpinachHumble2026-01-21 11:31
I tried pulling the little ones together then Burst by Mavuika and it didn't do sht. They are tanky AF.
harshithreddy072026-01-21 11:39
Yeah they are around 2+ million plus
TetraNeuron2026-01-21 16:42
Yeah my premium melt Mavuika couldn't take out the little chickens in 1 cycle, and while setting up the 2nd cycle the dog boss just ends the phase and deleted you
Lign_Grant2026-01-21 12:17
In my case Venti works better. Those chickens keep bouncing around when I hit them.
Astigmatisme2026-01-21 14:08
mfw you pour 2 entire rotations worth on the minions and you didnt even kill one of them
Good-Commission11872026-01-21 11:28
welcome to hydro impact
hydro element even have 2 gods lmao
K_o_n_e_k_o2026-01-21 11:30
four if you count focalor and egiria
Icy-Childhood-45872026-01-21 11:43
Hydro and Pyro seems to be the favourite element.
BobobPantpant2026-01-21 12:03
And cryo with 2 insane supports.
kiyomi0002026-01-21 12:03
And with our king, Wriothesley
K6fan2026-01-21 12:12
If only Cryo dmg reactions weren't complete dogshit
FrostedEevee2026-01-21 12:14
Its weird how Reverse Melt is good but they refuse to release support or new Meta DPS for it.
K6fan2026-01-21 12:16
Honestly, even that is not good anymore, all the strong amplify reaction carries are forward nowadays
FrostedEevee2026-01-21 12:47
That can be compensated with multipliers so it’s not a big issue
K6fan2026-01-21 12:54
They've done a lot of work locking themselves outta that. There's some EM scaling wiggle room of course, but in general reverse carries with good numbers will just end up in Chev/Esco comps, at least I see it that way.
Kotya-Nyan2026-01-21 16:46
We will get snezhnaya cryo reactions, trust me
Inhales hopium
Ok_Tie_14282026-01-21 12:33
Two?
nylakat2026-01-21 12:45
Citlali & Coffee
Adventurous_Sky61152026-01-21 12:59
Geo is there too below the bottom of the ocean
app082026-01-21 15:04
Eula and Freminet are chilling in the Mariana Trench.
Ryujin_Kurogami2026-01-21 16:47
\> Pyro having 2 reactions that benefit from every damage modifier in the game on top of direct damage amplification while every other reaction only gets to choose some. All that in a game allergic to engdame combat that isn't a time attack.
\> Hydro having HP scalers that deal damage so their numbers are bloated on top of having one of the mentioned omni damage modifier damage amp reaction above.
Gee, I wonder why, hoyo.
Seriously, the asinine balancing in this game is absolutely cringe.
bruhhh_bama2026-01-21 11:52
2 gods and a dragon sovereign
Timey162026-01-21 12:20
3 depending on how you count.
fat_mothra2026-01-21 12:49
4, you forgot Cool Your Jets Ducky
lluminaTea2026-01-21 14:17
If Aino was a 5* she would blast enemies to oblivion with her kuuvahki death star laser
Seiterno2026-01-21 14:07
4 actually , 2 furinas , neuv, and columbina
Gandalf-er2026-01-21 13:02
3. Furina's a fake god
cometlin2026-01-21 13:18
3 Gods
Yuri_VHkyri2026-01-21 11:29
Yeah first time im going to Hard mode instead of fearless. Don't have Bina or Neuvi so i'm screwed either way
Was a pretty quick decision when i whipped out my lunar charge team on the purple whatever and see a milimeter of damage, i know when i'm beat
iesous232026-01-21 11:50
I have no lunar dps, Ineffa, Lauma and Columbina barely even tickle that shield. Unless some weird team gets crafted at some point i might not be beating fearless for the first time. Oh well
Yuri_VHkyri2026-01-21 11:57
It was a good run. Even menacing chicken had so much hp
Had it coming tbf, no signatures and really bad luck with recent pulls finally claiming their due
Darcula042026-01-21 11:58
Wait which shield? Other than crab , for Fatui and Lord, ineffa bina and Lauma are great picks.
iesous232026-01-21 12:06
I've tried those 3 + one other and they barely get 25% through the shield. I have neither Nefer or Flins for actual damage.
McBarkington2026-01-21 11:31
Im less bothered by the hydro requirements and more annoyed by the emperor existing with its inconsistent hitbox when dealing with the aura.
Educational-Lake-1992026-01-21 11:39
I'm more annoyed with the camera and lock-on, I can't even see the big crab getting stunned sometimes because I'm locked-on to the smaller ones.
ManufacturerNo84472026-01-21 12:18
you can lock camera now ?
Malikili-3602026-01-21 12:36
Not the camera but your attacks have a lock on to some degree
caucassius2026-01-21 11:49
point your neuvhose upward directly to his horn. ye it actually matters.
Obvious-Childhood9102026-01-21 12:22
No point in bothering with the main crab. You need to give the smaller crabs as much dmg as possible, hopefully hydro dmg
JunkoGremory2026-01-21 12:46
Kokomi, Barbara, nilou can hit the horns with no issue iirc. Kokomi CA is the best.
Varglord2026-01-21 13:14
Yep Koko burst into a couple CAs does the trick.
Sharp_Aide32162026-01-21 11:35
If you think Lunar shilling is bad, how about Neuvillette shilling.
Even the best wheelchair in the game of Ineffa + Columbina is having difficulty carrying cause the pyro aura prevents lunar reactions on the little crabs.
abu_al_fuad692026-01-21 12:01
All shilling is bad
IgniteTheBoard2026-01-21 12:04
It's not as crazy as requiring 2 recent nk chars.
It is neuvi shill but bruteforcable by taking a normal skirk team and putting a xingqiu in.
eklatea2026-01-21 12:16
what if I don't have neuvi or skirk?
throwway852352026-01-21 12:18
Do you happen to have Mualani?
eklatea2026-01-21 12:24
no :(
I probably can't beat it anyway since I mainly have two good teams, I'm mostly asking in theory / what other teams are good in it in general
I'm like 100% cooked, for limited 5 stars I have:
Nefer, Lauma, Flins, Ineffa, Columbina, Furina, Yelan, Venti, Kazuha, Baizhu, Klee
So I'm in the dumb position of two premium nk teams but not much else 🫣
I'm okay with only beating hard, I haven't tried to do it yet and my builds aren't good enough yet for the higher difficulties anyway ^^"
1ryb2026-01-21 12:37
I'm pretty sure a double hydro hyperbloom team with XQ + either Yelan or Furina, then Kuki, and either Nahida or Lauma, can do it. XQ being XQ with his extremely high hydro app can solve half of the problem by himself.
shre32932026-01-21 12:19
it is honestly very difficult with skirk, its down phase is only 10 secs or something.
Sharp_Aide32162026-01-21 12:27
and you need some luck with the RNG of the small mobs.
You can only pray they jump towards you and not fire at you from a mile a way.
Lastly, good luck surviving with Furina hp decay, the lava floors, and 4 mobs ganging up on you.
Obvious-Childhood9102026-01-21 12:23
It's not manageable.
The boss has only a 10sec down time.
The main dmg you're giving is hydro dmg to the smaller crab which then translates to true dmg to the main crab
CriticalSink15162026-01-21 13:03
As long as I can get all primos with my pathetic excuse for a team, I don't care what kind of glazing or shilling Hoyo does.
But the moment you need some Godly C6 team with top-tier artifacts to clear the simplest of stages, then yes, I would say we have a problem.
UrticateMaster2026-01-21 12:43
More like Neuvillette check
Better-Suggestion9382026-01-21 13:06
They're trying their best to sell as much Hydro dragon as possible before he fell off completely with all powercreep
Fit-Application-12026-01-21 11:35
I am ever so glad I pulled ineffa now, because needing 2 lunar teams feels diabolical 😭
Nyanessa2026-01-21 12:18
I am sitting at 65 pity, guarantee for Ineffa 😭 I’ll most likely get her, but I need her already for fearless. I bruteforced crab with Skirk, Did Lauma/Nefer/columbina for the abyssal cat-thing, but I cannot for the life of me beat the Fatui guy.
Hokutino2026-01-21 11:36
which one to brute force? the first one? where to use lunar reaction then?
Skykeeper222026-01-21 11:40
I managed to brute force boss 2 with overload team.
worldwarA2026-01-21 11:40
I will brute force the second boss with Skirk. First boss is Flins premium, third boss is neuv premium.
EnianRover2026-01-21 12:00
I was barely able to deal with 1st with Lunar, second is bruteforceable at the very least with Skirk or Chev overload teams. 3rd bruteforceable with Skirk with last slot being Yelan/XQ or just use Neuv, possibly with some Bina variations but it is better to use her for first boss.
worldwarA2026-01-21 11:38
If going lunar reaction, 1 hydro on first boss. 1 hydro second boss. 2 hydro (neuv, furina preferably) third boss. Not that many
XxTheLeoxX2026-01-21 12:19
You do know theres only 1 of furina and columbina, no one else who's hydro is as good of a support to allow other dps to clear in these teams. If you run furina neuv in 3rd boss and Bina with 1st then there's no good hydro left for 2nd boss.
Asuru_2026-01-21 12:26
you can easily use Aino on the second one, Fav sword and around 180-200 ER you get ult with one E. Xingqiu also exists
XxTheLeoxX2026-01-21 12:28
None of them boost the team dmg like furina so they just apply hydro, not enough to defeat these bosses.
XxTheLeoxX2026-01-21 12:28
Unless youre using ineffa or someone else that's from Nod Krai
Lunar12112026-01-21 12:25
Problem is most hydros are 5 stars I'm lucky enough to have most of them but it's still not a great thing
DancingKoalaa2026-01-21 11:46
Wait emperor doesnt like pyro? i kept fighting it with kinich burn teams
ozush2026-01-21 11:54
You are probably mixing him up with the lava statue
DancingKoalaa2026-01-21 12:02
that is very likely..
throwmywilltolive2026-01-21 11:55
It just has high pyro res compared to other elements. But how are you getting rid of the shield with burn kinich
Abang_Genteng2026-01-21 12:22
Manage to kill that crab in menacing without breaking shield.
C1R1 kinich,Emilie,iansan and zhongli.
Stella_Lace2026-01-21 12:25
Vape is actually pretty good on it after you break the sheild. Its not immune to fire its just not as effective alone but pyro reactions work on it besides swirl and burning.
AhmCha2026-01-21 12:38
You might be thinking of the lava dragon or whatever it’s called, that one wants Pyro. Emperor wants Hydro
UnknownMyoux2026-01-21 11:47
WHere is the "duplicate columbina" button?
Shahadem2026-01-21 12:43
If you press it 5 times does it give you 32 Columbinas?
Nyanta3222026-01-21 12:45
Fr, I have C4 Bina, I'd gladly split to have 2x C2 lol
throwway852352026-01-21 12:50
C4 equals 5 Binas, which splits to C1 + C2. C2 + C2 is 6 Binas
Nyanta3222026-01-21 14:32
Stop making sense!
Dulcedoll2026-01-21 21:10
Why not two C2.5binas
wggn2026-01-21 13:47
aino
DazzlieAnna2026-01-21 17:40
aino on the second boss and columbina on the first boss because it requires so much more damage. that's how I did it
No_Dust_16302026-01-21 11:51
This is so shitty 😭 just say Columbina, Ineffa, Neuvillette required
Treyspurlock2026-01-21 22:28
Hey come on that's not true, don't spread misinformation
Columbina can't do shit to this SO without another Nod Krai unit
ImTheBias2026-01-21 11:53
2nd boss not really.
Edit: plus it simply needs Hydro for mechanics(2nd and 3rd boss), not Hydro for mandatory Lunar charged or other reactions. Everyone has extra hydro characters.
Don't want to be that guy all serious on a fluff post but.. this is true end game, it wasn't meant to be easy for ppl who don't care enough to build towards it.
NightsLinu2026-01-21 12:02
Yup perfect jean cheese
Silent_Silhouettes2026-01-21 12:15
wait really?
iguanacatgirl2026-01-21 12:26
my goat jean
0 BiS teams(she doesn't need one)
0 times where she hasn't cheesed in SO
7 years of doing Varka's paperwork
UrticateMaster2026-01-21 12:44
Considering Varka’s state in the beta, Jean might be more useful in Stygian than he ever will lmao
Jirul112026-01-21 12:21
lunar charged needs hydro
regina_fibwi2026-01-21 12:26
I brute forced it with Overload lmao
Smooth_Criminalo2026-01-21 12:45
On fearless?
regina_fibwi2026-01-21 12:56
Not yet, 67s on menacing tho so hopefully I can clear Fearless too
Smooth_Criminalo2026-01-21 12:57
yeah good luck with that, fearless and menacing is a big difference for this boss
DaSpood2026-01-21 11:55
Almost like most elemental reactions rely on hydro (the rest relies on pyro), that's not exactly new
Lola_aozul2026-01-21 11:55
It's my time to shine
Shumon_Natsu962026-01-21 11:55
couldnt do fearless cuz I literally have no other hydro unit to use for the crab
Sharp_Aide32162026-01-21 13:31
Even if you have all the hydro, crab is very difficult to clear without Neuv.
Historical_Clock87142026-01-21 13:53
Managed with Furina Escoffier Yelan and Kokomi on Fearless. It was hard at first before I discovered I can just focus on the small crabs and ignore the big crab unless it's down. I was doing the opposite at the beginning (big crab only and ignoring the small crabs) which is the wrong strategy apparently.
Ok_Way_29112026-01-21 17:45
it's basically opposite strat for first boss, ignore adds focus boss, for this ignore boss focus adds
Bubbly_Dirt_5392026-01-21 18:04
Mualani stocks is shooting through the roofs as we're speaking
G00b3rb0y2026-01-21 11:56
What’s the difference between hard and fearless?
throwway852352026-01-21 11:57
10 minutes timer, significantly weaker bosses, no special mechanics.
kontinuparadi2026-01-21 11:57
So anyone who has Neuv, Furina and Columbina is good?
clown_20612026-01-21 11:58
I have every hydro ( sub dps ) in the game and it's not as it looks. First one needs hydro ( columbina + ineffa ) second one needs hydro ( for skirk ) and it's furina (or aino, columbina depending on the team ), 3 one needs hydro ( neuvi ) and it's furina once again ft either xingqiu or yelan. So even if you have all the hydro ( - neuvi for me ) you are still cooked.
citrinecitrus2026-01-21 12:01
Not for me. This is my time to shine!
Cocoatrice2026-01-21 12:01
Ah yes, I forgot that there is just one Hydro character in the game.
Also, ahhhh, new Stygian, new drama. Every single time, people whine about it.
parthmestry2026-01-21 12:19
Why are you getting defensive lmao. It's a video game. People are gonna whine about the shill if they find it annoying.
corb3n1k2026-01-21 12:01
anyone here who was able to beat the first boss w/o Bina or having a C1+ limited 5*?
WitherLele2026-01-21 12:44
a nefer team with aino and lauma works amazingly, you do need some healing tho, i put pamber on sucrose as it works the best for me, but some people prefer to play kuki instead, to each their own
corb3n1k2026-01-21 12:51
i'm having a hard time clearing it with C0R0 Flins, C0R0 Ineffa, C4 Aino, C6 Sucrose. i just need 8 to 10 secs more to beat it. 😵💫
Fenrir_32_2026-01-21 13:22
You have 2 options:
Going with a lunar team and attack the boss while ignoring the minions. I cleared it with NeferC0R1/XingqiuC6/LaumaC0R0/NahidaC0R0 on first attempt.
The other option is attacking the minions, then you don't need lunar reactions and I've been trying MavuikaC0R1/CitlaliC0R1/BennetC6/KazuhaC0R0 to do so. Seems doable and seeing someone actually doing it inspired me to try, but not easy at all imo.
jofromthething2026-01-21 12:03
If it’s Nefer shill for the crab and Flins shill for the Fatui agent, are we simply meant to be waiting two weeks for Zibai to release to have a lunar team for the top boss? Like what is the intention here lol there are literally not that many lunar teams in the game
throwway852352026-01-21 12:06
The crab is Neuvillette shill lol. If you have Nefer or Flins use them for the dog.
Ke5_Jun2026-01-21 12:09
Wrong crab; this one is the Emperor of Fire and Iron (aka a Neuvillette/Furina shill boss). The crab you’re thinking of is the Crab Tsar.
YourIngrownTo3nail2026-01-21 12:03
Well it’s a good day to be a hydro main ig
MaleQueef2026-01-21 12:04
Everyday I’m thankful I built Aino out of love for the character and boredom.
chairmanxyz2026-01-21 13:35
She was essential for Flins until just now with Columbina. She carried her weight for sure. And now I have another built hydro with insane app in case I need it for anything.
Historical_Clock87142026-01-21 13:50
I have Flins Ineffa and Columbina for my NK 5 stars and Aino and Jahoda (she's unbuilt) for 4 stars. Aino allows me to use Lunar teams on 2 stages that need it. In this Stygian I used Bineffa on 1st boss and Flaino on 2nd boss.
Axlzz2026-01-21 17:21
Aino, right? She’s the best!
dalzmc2026-01-21 18:40
Do you even need to "build" aino? I just threw on one of my ER instructor sets and left her talents unleveled lol she's pretty fantastic at super low investment like that
kurogami932026-01-21 12:04
I believe this must be the most strict requirements if you planning to do fearless or dire. F this rotation I still going to try even with my lack of hydro roster. I already know it going to be a pain tomorrow.
KoringaVP2026-01-21 12:04
1st and 2nd boss dont really need hydro dmg, you can use aino on your lunar team for the abyss dog, and use a electro dos without hydro for the fatui dude, his weak to EC/LC and Electro dmg, sonyou can use like varesa overload if u have the team
Darkfire13782026-01-21 12:05
What the fuck is that thing up the top?
Gentlemanor2026-01-21 12:12
A world boss introduced in this patch
wggn2026-01-21 13:51
the new character ascension material boss in the top left of the new zone, i think zibai will use their drops.
Astigmatisme2026-01-21 14:09
Papila 2 : Lunar dps edition
SupersSoon2026-01-21 22:24
*now with favonious and sacrificial procs!*
AllNamesTakenOMG2026-01-21 12:06
Surprised they did not ad the stupid cactus boss too since it is based on electro charged
Gentlemanor2026-01-21 12:13
Because the current Abyss has the cactus man
ImPrettyBoredToday2026-01-21 14:25
Right after Knuckle Duckle, just to shove Electo Charged in your face that much more
rdhight2026-01-21 19:39
This SO and this abyss have one of the dumbest combined lineups ever. Cactus, knuckle duckle, and now all this crap.
"Consecrated beast winter" was bad, but at least many teams could force it.
GameWoods2026-01-21 12:07
Hydro asserting itself as the best element once again.
TheIndoraptor1232026-01-21 12:09
Its actually insane that my attempts on the Shocktrooper went better than the other 2. Yes, I have C1 Flins, but also Bina and Lauma. Even then managed the Whisperer of Nightmares with A FRACTION OF A MILISECOND
anyway2008942026-01-21 12:10
i just saw some dude blasted the shock trooper with an overloaded team
heyaooo2026-01-21 12:12
Im more annoyed that there is no automatic co-op option for menacing... At least maybe that way, higher chance of avoiding the idiots who dont bother to read what element is needed/to avoid.
Remarkable_Guest28062026-01-21 12:13
Worst. Nefer with columbina without lauma does negative damage to the first guy like wtf
TheCockyRocky2026-01-21 12:37
Same thing for lauma bina without nefer. This is just obnoxiously difficult.
fat_mothra2026-01-21 12:51
How? Lauma hyperbloom can clear previous Fearless Stygians iirc so how did adding Columbina made it worse?
Any-Muffin18622026-01-21 13:15
The boss needs high single target lunar dmg or aoe grouping to deal with the multiple summons which neither can lauma hyperbloom deal with
fat_mothra2026-01-21 14:11
Hyperbloom only needs 3 characters so wouldn't you be able to add Sucrose or Kazuha for cc and still have Lauma hyperbloom?
_Abstinence_2026-01-21 13:17
Most likely a combination of Inability for your hyperblooms to crit with 2 NK characters + Bina not built for damage
shride-2026-01-21 12:46
nefer teams care more about lauma than they do about neffer
Remarkable_Guest28062026-01-21 12:47
Yea like I knew she was dependent on lauma but i couldn't get her. Expecting her rerun but alas till then I am suffering lol
Kathars1s2026-01-21 13:33
I feel your pain. It's brutal lol
HARThorne2026-01-21 13:12
this made me lol
El_Nealio2026-01-21 13:26
Its shocking how true this is
arshesney2026-01-21 13:55
Lore accurate it seems.
DigiAirship2026-01-21 14:14
I saw Xlice test out C6R5 Columbina teams. Nefer did 1.7 million damage a second with Lauma and Columbina, without Lauma it was 400k. Basically, the entire team completely fell apart without Lauma.
sukahati2026-01-21 14:53
Nefer team is Lauma team in disguise
BonusroosterJr2026-01-21 18:36
Not even in disguise. Ineffa/lauma are clearly the best units from nod krai. Flins/nefer are complete frauds
yes_that-guy2026-01-21 16:16
This is unbelievably funny
StefanLoehr2026-01-21 15:08
Every Lunar Bloom team cares more about Lauma. They had to nerf Both Nefer and Columbina bloom damage otherwise with Lauma they'd sneeze and kill everything.
C2 Nahida makes it less of a pain.
strawberry_ooyoo2026-01-21 12:47
If that doesn't work maybe you could try Ineffa + Columbina + Sucrose + flex
Remarkable_Guest28062026-01-21 12:48
Ineffa sucrose yelan xq against fatui trooper. If I remove ineffa from that team then it's cooked. I don't have skirk or esco or flins or varesa . So this is not possible sadly
strawberry_ooyoo2026-01-21 12:51
That's unfortunate. Tbh the shilling gets to a point, at most there should only be 1 lunar shill boss since there's only 1 Columbina. :/
fleur--2026-01-21 13:15
Technically, only the first boss is lunar-shill. The second boss wants electro/electro-charged, but normal taser is kinda ass in comparison to its lunar variant...
LiamMorg2026-01-21 13:36
Columbina makes the Lauma reliance even worse than it was before. Her Lunar-Bloom damage scalings are frankly terrible but she hits a lot, so she's heavily balanced around the additive damage of Lauma's burst.
neat-NEAT2026-01-21 15:15
Noticed that too. I really like her character and style but holy fuck she's useless without her girlfriend.
misterkalazar2026-01-21 12:14
Aino way you getting rid of Aino so easily.
Davo_2026-01-21 12:16
I could probably do all 3 at this point to be fair. I've pulled for a lot of Hydro characters in my time. finally got Yelan this last time around so Yelan and C6 Xingqiu are at my disposal too.
ShikikanSpineal2026-01-21 12:17
Let my name echoes in song, let the world come alive, time to shine.
Torking2026-01-21 15:21
Strike a pose!
TheCrazedPotatoMan2026-01-21 15:43
Shower me with praise!
BuzzedHoneyBee2026-01-21 16:20
Yoohoo!
Brave-Fan97362026-01-21 16:35
May I present !
Outrageous_Break_7392026-01-21 12:18
columbina, furina, yelan in that order 🧚♀️
Eepydeepysleepy2026-01-21 12:18
I always find one boss very easy, another one a little challenging and the last one very freaking hard.
This time, I don't even know what to do with the crab
Maximum-Consequence22026-01-21 13:45
Same but the nightmare horse is my headache of the season
Admiral_Axe2026-01-21 17:17
In Fearless/Dire you need to focus your damage on the small crabs.
And I mean damage and not just breaking their shield.
They transfer 60% of hydro damage taken to the big crab when they pummel into it. And they have perma pyro aura for easy mass vapes. (I was 20 secs faster with Mualani/Furina combo than with Neuvi/Furina because of this on Dire)
You can also easily make use of chars like Citlali without having any issues with her messing up pyro aura for vapes
The big crab also doesn't have perma aura even with the shield, so you can use it to proc buffs (like scroll set)
Also, run a bit away to the edge of the arena after the spawn, that let's the big crab jump and his first 3 crabs will spawn in the same side and not scattered around him.
Ancienda2026-01-21 19:37
Thank you, I’ll keep this in mind!!
Jondev12026-01-22 01:12
Wish I read this before playing today lol. Took me so many attempts and now realizing I just straight up forgot about mualani on my account entirely.
Stella_Lace2026-01-21 12:22
Team 1 neuvillette, columbina, lauma baizhu
Team 2 flins, ororon, aino, ineffa
Team 3 venti, furina, durin, zhongli
I know it says pyro is not recommend but vape damage is actually decently effective on the emperor crab after the sheild breaks.
-Mal--2026-01-21 12:24
My only lunar team is at the same time my only electro + hydro team... yeah this is not it for me
TheWitcherMigs2026-01-21 12:26
Columbina
Aino
Furina
The three hydro archons
ankitjad2026-01-21 12:26
That is why I have yet to pull a proper hydro dps on my veteran acc..I only got childe from my early days .. rest are all hydro supports or 4* for IT
RowanWinterlace2026-01-21 12:38
Lunar Reactions
Lunar Reactions
Neuvillette
Good luck F2P's, I hope Jean is still viable here
Dramatic_Opening40192026-01-21 12:39
I realized on the second stygian iteration that sweating over fearless wasn't worth it. I just beat hard and I'm done, it takes less than a minute and it's completely stress-free.
YellowAppleCinema2026-01-21 16:35
Same. 1 feather isnt worth trying over and over for 5 hours.
Especially since the feather doesnt make content easier, stygian doesnt need perfect artifacts, it just needs you to have whatever characters are shilled, like neuv for crab.
esztersunday2026-01-21 12:48
Even when I have the characters, I am too lazy, I only do hard.
The rewards are not enough.
wggn2026-01-21 13:55
I try to do menacing if it's not too painful, but hard is good enough if i dont get menacing down in a few attempts
and same for abyss 12, if i cant clear it in a few attempts im not too fussed, ill try again next month lol
Wild_ColaPenguin2026-01-21 14:51
For real.
I'm sure I can clear menacing if I want, my party is well built and capable enough. But I never bother. I don't need another monotonous time-trial DPS check game-mode in my Genshin life. There are abyss and IT for that, and I don't find them enjoyable at all.
Although SO co-op with friends is fun.
Forward-Piglet-39972026-01-21 17:59
As much as I dislike some of the fights in the game mode I have to commend it for being surprisingly lenient with giving out rewards
You barely lose out anything if you can't clear stage 5 (like 100k mora and a single feather), you can still farm artifacts during the 10 days with boosted drop rates and a feather, you can get all the primogems, and you can at least attempt stage 4 for its rewards if you're so inclined
Next_Television_91602026-01-21 12:49
The abyss dogs bleeding all my characters at the same time and going through shields still top annoying stuff for me.
Rocky_96782026-01-21 13:53
Kokomi really put in the work for my skirk team, beat dire with c0r1 skirk c1 furina c2r1 esco and kok
Plus niloubina bloom and flins blew up the other 2 so for me wasn’t too bad
Hryzzo2026-01-21 13:58
I'm getting tired of these shilled bosses across hoyo games. The first boss has another method to destroy the shield, but it's such a tight dps check with needing to group. That's not fun....
Ploffers2026-01-21 21:36
grouping requirement was 100% implemented specifically to counter skirk freeze and mavuika/varesa overload. probably most people’s only chances at clearing without lunar.
george1815252026-01-21 21:12
Rare win for Mualani pullers. My usual monohydro teams with C2 Furina, Yelan/Xingqiu, Kazuha, Xilonen couldn't do it in time. Pulled out my well built Mualani and destroyed the endless crab hordes in 3 retries. Fuck crab, fuck Neuvillete sincerely. Never pulling your braindead cringe character.
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hydro element even have 2 gods lmao
Inhales hopium
\> Hydro having HP scalers that deal damage so their numbers are bloated on top of having one of the mentioned omni damage modifier damage amp reaction above.
Gee, I wonder why, hoyo.
Seriously, the asinine balancing in this game is absolutely cringe.
Was a pretty quick decision when i whipped out my lunar charge team on the purple whatever and see a milimeter of damage, i know when i'm beat
Had it coming tbf, no signatures and really bad luck with recent pulls finally claiming their due
\- Hydro app check
\- DPS check
\- Healing check
\- AOE check
All in one boss. wtf is this boss?
Even the best wheelchair in the game of Ineffa + Columbina is having difficulty carrying cause the pyro aura prevents lunar reactions on the little crabs.
It is neuvi shill but bruteforcable by taking a normal skirk team and putting a xingqiu in.
I probably can't beat it anyway since I mainly have two good teams, I'm mostly asking in theory / what other teams are good in it in general
I'm like 100% cooked, for limited 5 stars I have:
Nefer, Lauma, Flins, Ineffa, Columbina, Furina, Yelan, Venti, Kazuha, Baizhu, Klee
So I'm in the dumb position of two premium nk teams but not much else 🫣
I'm okay with only beating hard, I haven't tried to do it yet and my builds aren't good enough yet for the higher difficulties anyway ^^"
You can only pray they jump towards you and not fire at you from a mile a way.
Lastly, good luck surviving with Furina hp decay, the lava floors, and 4 mobs ganging up on you.
The boss has only a 10sec down time.
The main dmg you're giving is hydro dmg to the smaller crab which then translates to true dmg to the main crab
But the moment you need some Godly C6 team with top-tier artifacts to clear the simplest of stages, then yes, I would say we have a problem.
C1R1 kinich,Emilie,iansan and zhongli.
Columbina can't do shit to this SO without another Nod Krai unit
Edit: plus it simply needs Hydro for mechanics(2nd and 3rd boss), not Hydro for mandatory Lunar charged or other reactions. Everyone has extra hydro characters.
Don't want to be that guy all serious on a fluff post but.. this is true end game, it wasn't meant to be easy for ppl who don't care enough to build towards it.
0 BiS teams(she doesn't need one)
0 times where she hasn't cheesed in SO
7 years of doing Varka's paperwork
Also, ahhhh, new Stygian, new drama. Every single time, people whine about it.
Going with a lunar team and attack the boss while ignoring the minions. I cleared it with NeferC0R1/XingqiuC6/LaumaC0R0/NahidaC0R0 on first attempt.
The other option is attacking the minions, then you don't need lunar reactions and I've been trying MavuikaC0R1/CitlaliC0R1/BennetC6/KazuhaC0R0 to do so. Seems doable and seeing someone actually doing it inspired me to try, but not easy at all imo.
"Consecrated beast winter" was bad, but at least many teams could force it.
C2 Nahida makes it less of a pain.
This time, I don't even know what to do with the crab
And I mean damage and not just breaking their shield.
They transfer 60% of hydro damage taken to the big crab when they pummel into it. And they have perma pyro aura for easy mass vapes. (I was 20 secs faster with Mualani/Furina combo than with Neuvi/Furina because of this on Dire)
You can also easily make use of chars like Citlali without having any issues with her messing up pyro aura for vapes
The big crab also doesn't have perma aura even with the shield, so you can use it to proc buffs (like scroll set)
Also, run a bit away to the edge of the arena after the spawn, that let's the big crab jump and his first 3 crabs will spawn in the same side and not scattered around him.
Team 2 flins, ororon, aino, ineffa
Team 3 venti, furina, durin, zhongli
I know it says pyro is not recommend but vape damage is actually decently effective on the emperor crab after the sheild breaks.
Aino
Furina
The three hydro archons
Lunar Reactions
Neuvillette
Good luck F2P's, I hope Jean is still viable here
Especially since the feather doesnt make content easier, stygian doesnt need perfect artifacts, it just needs you to have whatever characters are shilled, like neuv for crab.
The rewards are not enough.
and same for abyss 12, if i cant clear it in a few attempts im not too fussed, ill try again next month lol
I'm sure I can clear menacing if I want, my party is well built and capable enough. But I never bother. I don't need another monotonous time-trial DPS check game-mode in my Genshin life. There are abyss and IT for that, and I don't find them enjoyable at all.
Although SO co-op with friends is fun.
You barely lose out anything if you can't clear stage 5 (like 100k mora and a single feather), you can still farm artifacts during the 10 days with boosted drop rates and a feather, you can get all the primogems, and you can at least attempt stage 4 for its rewards if you're so inclined
Plus niloubina bloom and flins blew up the other 2 so for me wasn’t too bad