Or you could spend $20,000 like me and get all the feathers every time. Totally worth it. 😉🤔😅
Paraspathania52026-01-21 18:00
Me too!
Even though I have Flins, skirk and Mavuika premium teams I am still not able to clear menacing
nlopnlipa2026-01-21 18:01
Which boss are you struggling with? I'm pretty sure you could make 3 teams here that can clear Fearless
lulaneklulanos2026-01-21 18:37
first two please help:( i missed like 2 seconds in the second boss nevuvilette kazuha fischl mona
nlopnlipa2026-01-21 18:48
For the first one: Mavuika Citlali Bennett Kazuha, make sure to group the chickens with Kazuha and kill them to break the shield, ignore the boss until they're dead.
Kazuha > Xilonen here since you need to damage all 4 chickens at once, otherwise the DPS required becomes too high.
In case you have one of them and they're just not level 90 yet, a Columbina or Ineffa team would also destroy this boss or the second one.
Mono Arlecchino can also do it probably since you have Cons on both Xilonen and Kazuha, it's barely possible without Cons, but you should be fine.
For the second one: If you aren't using him on the third boss, Neuvillette Furina Fischl Sucrose clears this easily, you can then use a Skirk or Mualani team for the crab.
If you can't clear the crab without Neuvillette, try an Arlecchino Overvape team with Arle Furina Fischl Xilonen. Just make sure to trigger enough ECs to prevent the shield from healing. If your Arle doesn't do enough damage or the shield keeps healing, try Furina Fischl Xilonen Sucrose, with Sucrose as a driver.
Otherwise try Arlecchino in an overload team and just out-DPS the healing. This will only work if your Arlecchino is well built and might not be possible on Fearless but it's close at least.
Appropriate_Gate11292026-01-21 18:57
Can you explain in Razor language why second boss kill me with his AOE electro attack? It seems like I destroyed his electric field but after that he still goes AOE in my ass.
Ghostilocks2026-01-21 19:02
You probably didn’t destroy his shield, you have to get through it 3 times and then he takes a burst of damage and doesn’t do an ape.
Appropriate_Gate11292026-01-21 19:20
How do I know if I did? I've seen phys damage being done to him but he still goes apeshit
Ghostilocks2026-01-21 19:51
You can see when his shield goes up and he gets the extra white bar under his health bar. There’s also a dark circle with an electro symbol under the bottom right of his name tag. Each time you completely deplete his white shield bar under the health bar you’ll see the circle around electro symbol fill up by 1/3. Once you break through his shield health 3 times he takes a big burst of damage and gets stunned.
The damage numbers you’re seeing I think are damage against the shield health bar. The reason electro charge is recommended is because he’s constantly recharging the shield, and the recharge gets temporarily stopped when he takes electro charge damage. Actually breaking the shield is purely a matter of damage to it afaik. I could be slightly off.
Skylair952026-01-22 00:30
On top of what someone else said, you can know you've done fucked up and failed to break his shield since he has a voice line when he is fully charged up. In english it's:
Fools! You don't know what's good for you.
And if you failed to break the shield, might aswell restart. Not because you will take a ton of damage, but because the Shock Trooper resistances drop to -40% while stunned (before going back to the regular 10%) except for electro that instead goes down to -50% until the next shield. And if you can't break the shield, there's no way you can kill him without the resistances debuff either.
nlopnlipa2026-01-21 19:03
He does an insta kill attack if you don't break all his shields in time, I assume that is the one?
To avoid it you have to break his shield three times. If you don't destroy them in time, he will remove the shields himself, do the insta kill attack (only dodgeable with burst iframes) and become empowered.
Maybe since he removes the shield you thought you broke it in time when you didn't, because outside of that he does not have any insta kill moves afaik. It could just be that you die to one of his normal moves since he does quite a bit of damage, in that case just dodge or get some sustain.
Appropriate_Gate11292026-01-21 19:21
Ok, how do I know I destroyed all the shields?
takenusername50012026-01-21 20:48
the white bar under his health disappears and he drops to a knee
HERODMasta2026-01-21 21:09
as others mentioned: the white circle under his health bar.
Or: he drops to the ground and does NOT say: "I warned you"
ImTheBias2026-01-21 18:01
skill issue..? hardware issue?.. just analyzing, no throwing shade. Maybe get a friend to help before you lose the feather. But you got time, keep trying! Account looks totally capable.
iLordDeath2026-01-21 18:02
bro saying skill issue like this stygian isn't just a shill check lmao. you don't need good gameplay to clear you just need to buy the right characters
Chtholly132026-01-21 18:06
all end game has always been to shill the featured characters, so this is nothing new.
iLordDeath2026-01-21 18:07
been able to clear every stygian and abyss until now with old 5-stars or 4-stars
Chtholly132026-01-21 18:12
I never said you couldn't, just the featured characters will have an easier time with it.
iLordDeath2026-01-21 18:16
not all shill is the same... one papila (that was clearable with full 4-star) isnt the same type of shill as three bosses that basically all require some combination of lunar reactions and/or furina. its new for them to force it this hard
ImTheBias2026-01-21 18:16
that's what I'm saying. some ppl are just sheep and can't think for themselves. Ofc I feel bad for those who are struggling, but if they don't try enough, they shouldn't care so much. It's just a game anyway. no one is entitled to anything here.
iLordDeath2026-01-21 18:22
"some people are just sheep" calling people sheep because they don't agree with you about a video game man you are parasocial, keep spending your paycheck on genshin though great idea
ImTheBias2026-01-21 18:27
not calling THOSE ppl sheep. Genshin reading comprehension strikes again!
Valkeyri2026-01-21 18:11
Not really u can still brute force through abyss even with 4* characters. Without hydro u are bascally cooked this stygian
liam210152026-01-21 18:12
This one requires a flins team and another premium lunar team. Most players don’t have 2 brand new premium teams of that category.
C2 mavuika premium barely makes a dent in the lunar thing
Meanwhile flins can clear lunar charged shill in 40 seconds on fearless
hanato_062026-01-21 18:13
S.O. released with only 1 shill boss to Skirk, which was still clearable with 4 stars. You were more than welcome to do atleast 2 bosses just through investment even on old characters.
S.O. of today is now at 2 shill bosses, where old units are mechanically locked from even trying.
S.O. of tomorrow will have 3 shill bosses and we'd have players that say "well, it's always been shilled for new characters" as if there weren't levels to this.
ImTheBias2026-01-21 18:10
Nahh that was just my genuine question to OP. You never know what ppl are going through.
But that's right, it's a major shill. So what? Lots of ppl brute forced 2nd boss and freed up teams for the other 2. There's always a leeway to be found, if you care enough.
That's Fearless btw, and we're talking about Menacing level for OP here, bro you good?
Original-Shallot58422026-01-21 18:15
That only applies at best, but at best to Fearless and even Fearless is more than clearable with multiple options.
The actual shill comes in play in Dire.
Menacing tho? Abyss is harder than Menacing, tf you mean buying characters for menacing.
ImTheBias2026-01-21 18:18
Thank you, give it to them!
FlameDragoon9332026-01-21 18:52
Well, it's both though? Have you not seen the many posts of Stygian low cost clears all this time.
lulaneklulanos2026-01-21 18:40
which teams would you use for each boss?
ImTheBias2026-01-21 19:16
I have C2 Skirk so I brute force first boss, Mavuika brute force second, third boss whatever.. I have Bina but no other Nod Krai chars.
btw Menacing can be done in co-op, you should definitely get help if needed, I just helped 3 ppl. But I'm barely scraping by in fearless and menacing is basically fearless in coop 😭
lulaneklulanos2026-01-21 19:24
i just did menacing alone im satisfied 🥳
ImTheBias2026-01-21 19:29
you cleared it?
Edit: I see you did, congrats! it was worth the little stress I'd say? You can feel confident about your account
Obvious-Childhood9102026-01-21 18:09
Menacing can be co op-ed for the feather btw
Recruit some whales
Seyrarm2026-01-21 18:15
I thought you could only do co-op up to hard? How does this work?
unktrial2026-01-21 18:17
It defaults to hard, but the host has the option to switch to menacing.
Entire-Magazine-42832026-01-21 18:25
You can co-op ANY stage, but only the first four will give you the reward after a successful clear!
Costyn172026-01-21 18:37
All difficulties have coop.
Only the first 3 have matchmaking.
Only the first 4 give rewards for coop clears.
Environmental-Belt492026-01-22 05:56
they need to join your world first then recruit them in doing Menacing.
lulaneklulanos2026-01-21 18:38
no luck in finding whales yet
hinasora2026-01-21 19:20
There's bunch of help threads everywhere asking for UIDs and carries. Or maybe join a big enough server like main genshincord or a theorycrafting one like jstern. You'll get something eventually if you are really concerned
Obvious-Childhood9102026-01-21 20:33
Hop onto Leaks sub's IT megathread. There are many whales there that might help you out
WeakRip19692026-01-21 22:29
I can help ! Messg me
lulaneklulanos2026-01-21 22:33
i managed to do menacing alone and unfortunately you cant do fearless in coop (the rewards) but thank you!🤗
GenshinCriminal2026-01-22 03:37
Let me guess, C6r5 Ayaka not good enough to do fearless?
I have c6r4 Ayaka and C6r1 shenhe , benched them this SO . Ayaka is not just Skirk's level.
lulaneklulanos2026-01-22 07:27
i used her for the crab i was struggling with the first two bosses but i completed menacing
prodigyp22026-01-22 04:14
You wanna use my c6 bina
_Cyborg_1208_2026-01-22 10:27
Asia server? Can bring ineffa and Bina
Left_Assistant14982026-01-25 15:23
plot twist: OP IS a whale LMAO.
irllyshouldsleep2026-01-21 18:13
I feel like u might be able to clear if u try hard enough and try a bunch of different team comps. Menacing is pretty easy. Ur Neuvi can be split from his BiS supports (like Furi) and still do fine on 3rd boss prob.
ImTheBias2026-01-21 18:14
actually on a second look, you don't plan to get Bina? no more funds or..? If it's just preference, I wouldn't say that's wise given the state of the game.
lulaneklulanos2026-01-21 18:42
i understand the lunar propaganda but unfortunately im not interested 🥲felt this way about hyperbloom in 3.0 though i understand how needed hyperb was its the same for lunar now
ImTheBias2026-01-21 19:32
all good. I don't have any Nod Kraiers other than her either(save C0 Aino) LOL just got her for the baseline minimum just in case.
Xnub2026-01-21 18:18
Cons and weapons are a trap to faster account progression and constant clears. Going for more characters is better. That is unless you dont care about spending $$ or dont care about efficiency.
lulaneklulanos2026-01-21 18:43
youre right i just like to hyperfixate on certain characters i already own
Xnub2026-01-21 18:48
And that's 100% fine if that how you like to play but you will give up on other areas like this when the bosses aren't kind to your invested characters. 😟 stygian Onslaught is not kind
lulaneklulanos2026-01-21 18:52
i know, i just hoped they would be kinder and maybe make it just as easy as the first onslaught ever😅well its not at all ahaha
Xnub2026-01-21 19:38
Unfortunately, it looks like the content is being designed around the newest banner character, with significant drawbacks for using most other options. I don’t expect this to change. It’s still manageable, but it’s noticeably more frustrating, while pulling the latest character makes it almost trivial. This will only get worse as more damage types are added, before long you’ll need lunar damage for one boss, Favonius Knight damage for another, and Adeptus damage for the last. LOL
qqasdsdadasf2026-01-21 18:18
Sad to see this game becoming "spend money on new characters or get fucked". Was a cool nice game whem you could use elements but different characters and still finish end game. Now they start ruining this game with their greed. There's no point in spending money getting constellations and signature weapons if that characters becomes useless trash after a few weeks or a month. Hope they remove those greedy devs from team and hire normal ones like old days.
Entire-Magazine-42832026-01-21 18:21
You do realise that only the first three stages give primos and stage four can still be co-op for the feather. As a casual player, when it comes to combat, that's more than enough for me.
Why is it such a terrible thing when dolphins and whales have two stages in one endgame mode for themselves?
qqasdsdadasf2026-01-21 21:02
“As a casual” says it all. I’m 1.0 players and it wasnt like that before. Yes they gave bonuses for those elements like when Arlecchino came you could still complete all end game with well built Diluc or Hu Tao with good teams. But when for example Mavuika came and was able to do end game at C0, Diluc C6 ir Hu Tao C1 (Akasha top 2%) couldnt do shit.
FlameDragoon9332026-01-21 18:50
> Was a cool nice game whem you could use elements but different characters and still finish end game.
you only need to finish difficulty 3 (extremely easy, just as easy as overworld boss) to earn the same amount of primos as Abyss. You literally doesn't lose anything, you only gain an opportunity to get more stuffs if you're strong enough.
qqasdsdadasf2026-01-21 18:52
Yes, but it made me to stop spending money on this game, because what’s the point of building a character to C3R1 or C2R1 if it becomes complete shit because of new mechanics later? Better play free. Because that way you can archieve same level of end game.
FlameDragoon9332026-01-21 18:59
Well... they don't become complete shit? People are still bruteforcing SO bosses with Arle/Mavuika/Skirk even in this season. Heck, *I* still bruteforce the Fatui guy with Skirk and my Skirk is only C0. It is true that new characters will be shilled, but old high investment DPSes can still be used to bruteforce some of the stages.
qqasdsdadasf2026-01-21 19:41
Brute force first boss without luna reactions and show me:))
FlameDragoon9332026-01-21 20:03
1. Can you properly read my comment? I said they can be used to bruteforce some of the stages, not necessarily all the stages.
2. Other people already did it with Mavuika, so consider it's your loss when you challenged that as your argument
EDIT because the guy deleted a comment
**Deleted comment**:
> What constellations is they Mavuika? More than C2-3? Its your loss u dont even understand what l’m saying you must be new player and have no idea how it was in the start. Just like devs u try to bruteforce ur opinion. Must be whale or just stupid because you have no idea
**My reply**:
????
> Yes, but it made me to stop spending money on this game, because what’s the point of building a character to C3R1 or C2R1 if it becomes complete shit because of new mechanics later?
You're the one who brought up high cons characters first, now you act like I'm the one telling you to whale?
Even just browsing this very subreddit tonight I found someone bruteforcing the abyss dog/chicken boss with Arlecchino. Sure it's harder, but it's doable, that's always been the point of the argument. Nobody was denying the shilling, all I'm saying is that high cons characters will still be able to bruteforce.
> Must be whale or just stupid because you have no idea
You threw out insults first, not me. So let me throw one back: reading comprehension, do you have it?
anyway, I'm done. no time for this BS. If you wanna wallow in your misery instead of arguing in good faith, go ahead. your life, not mine.
qqasdsdadasf2026-01-21 21:23
"some of the stages, not necessarily all the stages." that's the point they make one of them undoable with older C2-3 top 1-5% Akasha DPS characters just so you spend money on new one and get it atleast C0 to complete end game. Maybe you'll finally understan what I'm saying.
OkEngineering41392026-01-21 19:02
\>"characters becomes useless trash after a few weeks or a month"
Outside of the first boss, I literally cleared this Stygian with C0R0 Varesa and Mualani on the Fatui boss and the Crab respectively. The crab is also an enemy that shills an almost 2 year old character in Neuvillette. People have also brute-forced many of these bosses with Arlecchino and Skirk. We don't have to lie; any half-decent carry released within the past two years will be able to clear Stygian with good enough investment and are able to deal with the boss mechanics. Every Fontaine to Nod-Krai era carry can clear Fearless with good investment and well-built teams in scenarios that don't counter them; I don't see how they've become "worthless trash".
If you're not interested in spending the time to build your characters or learn boss mechanics in an ENDGAME mode, it is completely fine. But we don't have to bitch and moan about "characters becoming worthless trash" if you don't even put in the effort to learn how to play the game.
Also, its just a reroll feather dude, you're not even losing primos. If losing one or two feathers is that much of a deal breaker for you, I have nothing to say.
qqasdsdadasf2026-01-21 21:05
If you end game player yes old characters become trash. Prove me wrong do first boss Fearless without luna reactions and prove me wrong:)) cmon cool dude show you’re right. Whats the point of beating other 2 if you still cant complete that level? Thats my point they made one boss unbeatable with other characters on purpose just so poeple spend money on new op characters to finish that last one and get a feeling of completing it. You just proved my point:)
mrdreka2026-01-21 22:07
I did that, you can do that with Kazuha + Arle/Mauvik, where you focus on the small dogs.
Here is a video explaining different tactics for each boss
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jkuEiyA7alg
qqasdsdadasf2026-01-21 22:39
And if I have only Hu Tao/Diluc/Gaming I can only wish for Columbina or get fucked?
Tsurinomine2026-01-22 01:46
Hi, what team and investment in varesa team? My friend struggling with 2nd boss without ineffa and furina
OkEngineering41392026-01-22 02:21
It is C0R0 Widsith Varesa (90/185 Long Night's Oath), C6 Chev, C6 Iansan and C0R1 Mavuika. While the 4-star constellations are quite impactful, the Mavuika weapon isn't, so don't worry about the investment level on the off-field pyro character. PMC, Durin, Xiangling and Mavuika all work. Bennett is also a viable option, just remember to use his skill in between Varesa plunges to refresh Chev's RES shred on Overload.
To be more specific, the core challenge for this team is the initial shield phase, where he gets a ton of resistance (including Pyro which is why Mavuika's damage doesn't really matter) to everything but Electro. Use the first rotation to just build Iansan burst and break one phase of the shield and use the second rotation the break the other two. The timing can be tight so if you're using Mavuika, skip the burst.
After the shield is broken, the fight becomes relatively free as it just becomes a simple DPS check that you can deal with rather easily if your Varesa is well-invested since the boss gets staggered by Overload, which means he attacks less often. The shield phase can be quite challenging so be prepared to reset; however, once you get it, the rest of the fight should be easy.
Also, if Chev isn't an option for you, Xilonen-Furina-Iansan is viable if you don't need Furina on the third boss (like if you have Neuv for example)
AllenWalker19902026-01-21 18:21
3rd boss is hydro shill 2nd boss is electro shill 1st boss is a war crime
WeakRip19692026-01-21 22:30
What teams to use for 3rd
RadRelCaroman2026-01-21 23:59
ain't gonna lie this is a neuvilette or bust
childe might also be able to pull it off if the crabs are grouped enough
otherwise bring 3-4 hydros and your A game
narium2026-01-22 03:13
Burst Skirk with a catalyst hydro can do it too. XQ can work but it's too difficult to control the shield break with him.
DownerMouse2026-01-23 11:46
Mulani works amazingly for 3rd boss aswell.
WeakRip19692026-01-23 20:11
How
Tainted_12026-01-21 18:22
Do fearless.
1st boss Mav Citlali Xilo Kaz. Group the minions it spawns with Kaz and kill them with Mav. It breaks the shield without lunar shill.
2nd boss Arle overload. Arle Durin Fischl Chev.
3rd boss Skirk Escoffier Furina Shenhe.
You can do it!
Edit: You can also use Neuv Furina Escoffier for 3rd boss if you are having troubles with skirk.
lulaneklulanos2026-01-21 18:45
imma try! thanks!
lulaneklulanos2026-01-21 19:04
oh my gosh!!!! thank you so much i actually did it all first try! may all of your future pulls be blessed
battleye92026-01-22 04:18
Absolutely thank you 😭🙏
BurnedZz2026-01-21 18:23
i didn't pull any lunar (excep bina) and i'm in the same spot lol.
but menacing is still pretty easy imo, i used Mav for purple boss, Skirk for fatui dude, and neuvi for crab.
for fearless mavuika destroyed the fatui dude, and neuv once again destroyed the crab. Now i'm waiting for zibai to beat that purple thingy.
celestailight2026-01-21 18:33
It’s the hardest so far, I couldn’t beat 1st boss even tho I have Lauma & Columbina 😢 but I was able to complete it by using these teams:
1- c2R1 Arle /c6 Bennet/xilonen/kazuha (go for small chickens not dog)
2- c1 Jean/any anemo/Furina/raiden (https://youtu.be/XtJ139FXJBY?si=l2hXmDDzD17sNm19) thx to this guy’s video
3- c2R1 Ayaka/Escoffier/Neuvillette/Yelan (I couldn’t use Furina here bc Jean team need her)
You have a good roster Hope u can clear it if not go co op to get the feather
mreowimakat2026-01-21 22:14
I see you gave up on using lauma and columbina lol
Thanks for this, I have... Most of this team so Im gonna try this
celestailight2026-01-25 17:26
Yes they were useless without Nefer or even Ineffa 😩 gl with your run 👍
Fit-Application-12026-01-21 18:44
What server are you on? If you’re on Asia, I can help coop either the first or second boss since I have a C6 Flins. Assuming you mean menacing tier
Ryuunoru2026-01-21 18:47
It's just a feather. No big deal.
LKOShield2026-01-21 19:09
Same, I can only beat the Fireblade with Skirk's premium team.
I can't break the shield on both the first boss and the crab.
ImTheBias2026-01-21 19:36
Fearless or?..
LKOShield2026-01-21 19:52
Ashamed to admit it, but only Menacing.
Pink_her_Ult2026-01-21 19:32
Moonless behavior.
Meettherubbish2026-01-21 19:33
With that roster you should definitely be clearing menacing, maybe even up to fearless. Skirk beats the 2nd one, mavuika beats the 1st one, and neuvi for the 3rd
cartercr2026-01-21 20:48
I’m not gonna lie, that feather from Fearless is super super overrated. Like great, if you’re invested in the cool new shilled stuff then by all means grab it! But if not, it’s absolutely not worth getting frustrated over.
Nero_PR2026-01-21 20:51
Looking at the characters and some of the constellations. If it is not a rotation problem, it is an artifact or skill issue situation.
lulaneklulanos2026-01-21 22:36
it was actually really easy to do menacing first try without coop (once someone told which teams to use………)
Wrong-Hovercraft78262026-01-21 21:06
Support impact. Is there a reason you getting cons on your supports/ sub DPS over the main carry?
lulaneklulanos2026-01-21 22:38
supports with cons can buff multiple characters while dps with cons can only buff themselves
clizana2026-01-21 21:31
bullshit mechanic simulator
NeoLedah2026-01-21 21:56
The new boss advertises it has to be done with Lunar reactions
However, if you have c2 Columbina, c0 Nefer, c1 Lauma and c2 Kazuha, all with their respective signature weapons, it cannot be beaten.
And the fire crab is Neuvillette-locked.
Dougline2026-01-21 22:20
Bitch c'mon, you have more than plenty of characters that can do even Fearless...
I don't have this lazy ass Squirtle cosplay, so I don't know what is his bis team, but I cleared only with Furina, Xilo, Yelan and XQ, so he might do this just fine.
lulaneklulanos2026-01-21 22:30
do you just go in your everyday life calling people you dont know bitches?
Dougline2026-01-21 23:02
Normally just when they're bitching about something dumb like this...
LonesomeWulf2026-01-21 22:50
Stygian Onslaught is the worst feeling challenge in the game, as a day 1 player that has spent A LOT of money, I have never been close to clearing fearless. This one took a few different teams and tries just to clear menacing. I have all the Nod Krai units, and could not get Nefer/Lauma/Columbina to work on the 1st boss, so I had to pivot and use what I was saving for my second team instead Flins/Ineffa/Columbina (she is free now). I legit had one second to spare when I finally beat it after a few tries. 2nd Boss was the easiest, just used my fun boy team Lyney/Durin/Bennett/Venti. 3rd boss fine using Neuvillette/Furina/Fischel/Albedo.
I know other people can beat this stuff on Fearless, but it is beyond me how they do it, because my account should be able to handle basically everything. Player skill, I know :3
If gaming, chevereuse and iansan are well built use them for overload on second boss and use skirk for the third
bruhmaster_jz2026-01-22 00:37
The lion doesnt concern themselves with rewards anything other than primos
Living-Return46572026-01-22 02:26
bro same ts is insane
Mrjfrn2026-01-22 04:00
The first one is even way worse!
Adventurous_Cash_6352026-01-22 06:34
Did Fearless last cicle, can't do Menacing this cicle :D
yaysyu2026-01-22 07:28
I beat that guy with my C0R1 Arlecchino, Durin, Fischl and Chev.
Left_Assistant14982026-01-24 04:39
You should be clearing Dire with this level of investment lmao. At the very least Fearless.
This has to be bait. C6 R5 Ayaka too, Lmfao.
lulaneklulanos2026-01-24 10:37
dire???? for a boss you need lunar for when i only have aino? and where you need electro charged when i only have fischl and nevuvilette?? good luck bro id like to see you try
Left_Assistant14982026-01-24 16:57
Yeah you don't NEED lunar. You need to group all of the chickens with Kazuha and use Mavuika or Arle properly. You're just not trying. Mono Pyro Arle clears already on youtube for Dire lmao. You can't even do the difficulty two levels below which has like a fraction of that HP with higher constellations. You just have skill issue. Plain and simple. No amount of whaling will change that as in your case.
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Even though I have Flins, skirk and Mavuika premium teams I am still not able to clear menacing
Kazuha > Xilonen here since you need to damage all 4 chickens at once, otherwise the DPS required becomes too high.
In case you have one of them and they're just not level 90 yet, a Columbina or Ineffa team would also destroy this boss or the second one.
Mono Arlecchino can also do it probably since you have Cons on both Xilonen and Kazuha, it's barely possible without Cons, but you should be fine.
For the second one: If you aren't using him on the third boss, Neuvillette Furina Fischl Sucrose clears this easily, you can then use a Skirk or Mualani team for the crab.
If you can't clear the crab without Neuvillette, try an Arlecchino Overvape team with Arle Furina Fischl Xilonen. Just make sure to trigger enough ECs to prevent the shield from healing. If your Arle doesn't do enough damage or the shield keeps healing, try Furina Fischl Xilonen Sucrose, with Sucrose as a driver.
Otherwise try Arlecchino in an overload team and just out-DPS the healing. This will only work if your Arlecchino is well built and might not be possible on Fearless but it's close at least.
The damage numbers you’re seeing I think are damage against the shield health bar. The reason electro charge is recommended is because he’s constantly recharging the shield, and the recharge gets temporarily stopped when he takes electro charge damage. Actually breaking the shield is purely a matter of damage to it afaik. I could be slightly off.
Fools! You don't know what's good for you.
And if you failed to break the shield, might aswell restart. Not because you will take a ton of damage, but because the Shock Trooper resistances drop to -40% while stunned (before going back to the regular 10%) except for electro that instead goes down to -50% until the next shield. And if you can't break the shield, there's no way you can kill him without the resistances debuff either.
To avoid it you have to break his shield three times. If you don't destroy them in time, he will remove the shields himself, do the insta kill attack (only dodgeable with burst iframes) and become empowered.
Maybe since he removes the shield you thought you broke it in time when you didn't, because outside of that he does not have any insta kill moves afaik. It could just be that you die to one of his normal moves since he does quite a bit of damage, in that case just dodge or get some sustain.
Or: he drops to the ground and does NOT say: "I warned you"
C2 mavuika premium barely makes a dent in the lunar thing
Meanwhile flins can clear lunar charged shill in 40 seconds on fearless
S.O. of today is now at 2 shill bosses, where old units are mechanically locked from even trying.
S.O. of tomorrow will have 3 shill bosses and we'd have players that say "well, it's always been shilled for new characters" as if there weren't levels to this.
But that's right, it's a major shill. So what? Lots of ppl brute forced 2nd boss and freed up teams for the other 2. There's always a leeway to be found, if you care enough.
That's Fearless btw, and we're talking about Menacing level for OP here, bro you good?
The actual shill comes in play in Dire.
Menacing tho? Abyss is harder than Menacing, tf you mean buying characters for menacing.
btw Menacing can be done in co-op, you should definitely get help if needed, I just helped 3 ppl. But I'm barely scraping by in fearless and menacing is basically fearless in coop 😭
Edit: I see you did, congrats! it was worth the little stress I'd say? You can feel confident about your account
Recruit some whales
Only the first 3 have matchmaking.
Only the first 4 give rewards for coop clears.
I have c6r4 Ayaka and C6r1 shenhe , benched them this SO . Ayaka is not just Skirk's level.
Why is it such a terrible thing when dolphins and whales have two stages in one endgame mode for themselves?
you only need to finish difficulty 3 (extremely easy, just as easy as overworld boss) to earn the same amount of primos as Abyss. You literally doesn't lose anything, you only gain an opportunity to get more stuffs if you're strong enough.
2. Other people already did it with Mavuika, so consider it's your loss when you challenged that as your argument
EDIT because the guy deleted a comment
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> What constellations is they Mavuika? More than C2-3? Its your loss u dont even understand what l’m saying you must be new player and have no idea how it was in the start. Just like devs u try to bruteforce ur opinion. Must be whale or just stupid because you have no idea
**My reply**:
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> Yes, but it made me to stop spending money on this game, because what’s the point of building a character to C3R1 or C2R1 if it becomes complete shit because of new mechanics later?
You're the one who brought up high cons characters first, now you act like I'm the one telling you to whale?
Even just browsing this very subreddit tonight I found someone bruteforcing the abyss dog/chicken boss with Arlecchino. Sure it's harder, but it's doable, that's always been the point of the argument. Nobody was denying the shilling, all I'm saying is that high cons characters will still be able to bruteforce.
> Must be whale or just stupid because you have no idea
You threw out insults first, not me. So let me throw one back: reading comprehension, do you have it?
anyway, I'm done. no time for this BS. If you wanna wallow in your misery instead of arguing in good faith, go ahead. your life, not mine.
Outside of the first boss, I literally cleared this Stygian with C0R0 Varesa and Mualani on the Fatui boss and the Crab respectively. The crab is also an enemy that shills an almost 2 year old character in Neuvillette. People have also brute-forced many of these bosses with Arlecchino and Skirk. We don't have to lie; any half-decent carry released within the past two years will be able to clear Stygian with good enough investment and are able to deal with the boss mechanics. Every Fontaine to Nod-Krai era carry can clear Fearless with good investment and well-built teams in scenarios that don't counter them; I don't see how they've become "worthless trash".
If you're not interested in spending the time to build your characters or learn boss mechanics in an ENDGAME mode, it is completely fine. But we don't have to bitch and moan about "characters becoming worthless trash" if you don't even put in the effort to learn how to play the game.
Also, its just a reroll feather dude, you're not even losing primos. If losing one or two feathers is that much of a deal breaker for you, I have nothing to say.
Here is a video explaining different tactics for each boss
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jkuEiyA7alg
To be more specific, the core challenge for this team is the initial shield phase, where he gets a ton of resistance (including Pyro which is why Mavuika's damage doesn't really matter) to everything but Electro. Use the first rotation to just build Iansan burst and break one phase of the shield and use the second rotation the break the other two. The timing can be tight so if you're using Mavuika, skip the burst.
After the shield is broken, the fight becomes relatively free as it just becomes a simple DPS check that you can deal with rather easily if your Varesa is well-invested since the boss gets staggered by Overload, which means he attacks less often. The shield phase can be quite challenging so be prepared to reset; however, once you get it, the rest of the fight should be easy.
Also, if Chev isn't an option for you, Xilonen-Furina-Iansan is viable if you don't need Furina on the third boss (like if you have Neuv for example)
childe might also be able to pull it off if the crabs are grouped enough
otherwise bring 3-4 hydros and your A game
1st boss Mav Citlali Xilo Kaz. Group the minions it spawns with Kaz and kill them with Mav. It breaks the shield without lunar shill.
2nd boss Arle overload. Arle Durin Fischl Chev.
3rd boss Skirk Escoffier Furina Shenhe.
You can do it!
Edit: You can also use Neuv Furina Escoffier for 3rd boss if you are having troubles with skirk.
but menacing is still pretty easy imo, i used Mav for purple boss, Skirk for fatui dude, and neuvi for crab.
for fearless mavuika destroyed the fatui dude, and neuv once again destroyed the crab. Now i'm waiting for zibai to beat that purple thingy.
1- c2R1 Arle /c6 Bennet/xilonen/kazuha (go for small chickens not dog)
2- c1 Jean/any anemo/Furina/raiden (https://youtu.be/XtJ139FXJBY?si=l2hXmDDzD17sNm19) thx to this guy’s video
3- c2R1 Ayaka/Escoffier/Neuvillette/Yelan (I couldn’t use Furina here bc Jean team need her)
You have a good roster Hope u can clear it if not go co op to get the feather
Thanks for this, I have... Most of this team so Im gonna try this
I can't break the shield on both the first boss and the crab.
However, if you have c2 Columbina, c0 Nefer, c1 Lauma and c2 Kazuha, all with their respective signature weapons, it cannot be beaten.
And the fire crab is Neuvillette-locked.
1. Mavuika, Xilo, Citlali, Bennett
2. Arlecchino, Durin, Chev, Fischl
3. Neuvi, Furina, Kazuha/Mona/Nahida/Escoffier?
I don't have this lazy ass Squirtle cosplay, so I don't know what is his bis team, but I cleared only with Furina, Xilo, Yelan and XQ, so he might do this just fine.
I know other people can beat this stuff on Fearless, but it is beyond me how they do it, because my account should be able to handle basically everything. Player skill, I know :3
Skirk, shenhe, mona, escoffier
Furina, neuvillette, bennet, nahida
If gaming, chevereuse and iansan are well built use them for overload on second boss and use skirk for the third
This has to be bait. C6 R5 Ayaka too, Lmfao.