neuvillette vs prime zhongli who would win?

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many people said neuvillette would win.. but personally no,,,, I believe prime zhongli would win. Zhongli is one of with the power to kill gods... I seriously think Neuvillette cant easily beat him, but some people are saying Neuvillette wins based on lore or just to ragebait.... what are your guys thoughts?!

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corecenite2026-01-22 01:01

Isn't Zhongli we have today is still prime Zhongli... or the writer of the battle.

sff_dmk2026-01-22 01:07

No... his gnosis is with Fatui and Liyue is controlling by his people... Zhongli is a retired old man now :c

corecenite2026-01-22 01:10

and? as per post Fontaine AQ, we now know that gnosis doesn't do anything for the Archons that hold them since it doesn't equate to the authorities. also, Liyuenese still worship him and the adepti despite by the region being controlled by humans so all the "faith power" is still there.

sff_dmk2026-01-22 01:17

hhhmmm I didn't know that much too but yes, If Zhongli still has the fighting spirit you say he has, he could defeat Neuvillette even in his current state, without needing to be in his former prime, Morax form.

corecenite2026-01-22 02:03

that's still a no. zhongli only borrows power from the stolen geo authority while neuvi has full control on his supposed power.

TailorUnlikely99802026-01-22 01:01

Ah, yes, Zhongli, the god of unquantifiable feats.

tyjz73_2026-01-22 01:07

Powerscaling is dumb.

But in general, Sovereign > Archon, since Archons' Authority in derived from (and lesser than) the Sovereigns'. Unless Zhongli is some über-powerful primordial being, of course (which isn't out of the realm of possibilities since we still have no clue about his origins).

And Zhongli now is still Prime Zhongli, there is little difference between him now and him during the Archon War. Just his mentality.

Raze772026-01-22 01:21

He can only outrun him.

Frosty-Try-15072026-01-22 01:28

Neuvillette can win against all archon going by lore.
But Zhongli or Morax in his prime was already strongest without any Genosis which is nothing new everyone knows about that

fubukishirou072026-01-22 01:44

I mean zhongli is said to be as powerful as the angel race maybe even more but at the same time he's not one of the angels as stated by zibai. And even before the archon war, zhongli was already the lord of geo. Zhongli will win this fight on account of his experience of fighting past powerful enemies who slew countless of gods as opposed to neuvillette who has little combat experience. Maybe the reason zhongli avoid neuvillette is because starting a fight with him is not worth the trouble because as an old god like zhongli who already witness so many tragedies and sorrows from endless fighting, he thinks that using brawn is not always the right choice when solving conflicts.

BobTheGodx2026-01-22 03:59

He admits he's not stronger than Azhdaha who doesn't even have his elemental authority.

fubukishirou072026-01-22 04:09

Lol comparing azhdaha who also has combat experience with neuvillette who has non is not really a good argument here. Stick on the topic.

BobTheGodx2026-01-22 04:27

Azhdaha had magic dementia when Zhongli fought him. His "combat skills" were irrelevant and Zhongli still wasn't superior to him 😭

marlonball2026-01-25 23:06

And in case people say that Zhongli was "holding back" because he was fighting a friend, he was not. Zhongli outright states he was going all out and using his full power against Azhdaha and even remarks that despite that he was still barely even able to fight him.

Akikala2026-01-22 02:31

No way to know. Zhongli is significantly older and experienced but who knows how important that is in genshin power scaling. Neuvi has higher authority ovee his element but we have no idea what that even means lol.

BobTheGodx2026-01-22 03:58

Zhongli isn't superior to a sovereign who doesn't have his authority (Azhdaha) so Neuvillette would easily win.

hudashick2026-01-22 03:59

With full authority it will be Neuvi even if it is prime ZL.

BUT we also do not know who ZL really is so that could change in the future.

F1T_132026-01-22 16:39

First of all, Zhongli is still in or close to his prime now and we don't know who will win. We don't know enough about Zhongli's lore for where his original power stems from but he has feats, that are grand in scale even besides that of an archon.

Would he beat Neuvillette, we just don't know. Neuvillette is probably not as good a fighter as Zhongli at least from what we've seen but he has a lot of power by some of his claims and could still overwhelm Zhongli if his claims are accurate. Still, since Neuvillette doesn't have many combat feats to the level of strong gods like Zhongli we have nothing that proves he's actually as OP as he says.