Father and son have remarkably similar taste in women.
StarKid_Tommygotchi2026-01-22 05:53
The father being the 5’2 crop top twink
Main_Personality4552026-01-22 06:00
I mean we know Caelus was around before the herta space station, and given how many heads aether turns on teyvat, it’s not impossible…
Main_Personality4552026-01-22 06:01
Plus have you seen the new outfit? Proper spacefaring gentleman that!
Adventurous-Fan-17772026-01-22 06:01
The downvotes on this post hurt a bit, but they’re understandable. I thought the parallel was kind of cute , clearly not everyone sees it that way, and that’s okay.
Ps : Also, thank you to everyone who gave positive feedback. I was just sharing my perspective and the parallels I noticed between the games I play—I didn’t mean to stir anything up. Still, thank you all, I really, really appreciate it.
hoyoshill2026-01-22 06:03
I don't know why people still think she is not a waifu
Yeah, she have emotional arc and connect with other cast but this doesn't change the fact that she is waifu.
Any female character that is close or intimate with mc is waifu in my dictionary (This doesn't apply to irl, just talking about gacha characters)
Demelon2026-01-22 06:12
I thought it was a cute post OP and I can definitely see the parallel. I didn't even think about the crossover like that before but I love both characters so I'm not complaining!
Black-----Manta2026-01-22 06:14
Is it a parallel or gacha games having a similarly generic story. Idk what's going on with ZZZ but I'm willing to bet there's a similar situation there as well
Reletr2026-01-22 07:04
For now not really, there isn't a character in ZZZ who's been teased via a smaller version of themselves for patches before their release. The closest would be Ye Shunguang, who also had waifubait accusations, and is kinda in-between Bina and Cyrene in overall character development imo
Ubermus_Prime2026-01-22 06:19
I think the image is very cute. I love Aether and Columbina together. Although I can't opine on any parallels between the two relationships since I don't play HSR.
SomeAwakenedDude2026-01-22 06:26
unfortunately people hate their mc in this sub. Atleast you're not getting harassed, which is what usually happens whenever someone posts Aebina here
arbabarda2026-01-22 06:45
We don't hate the main characters. we hate that the connections and personalities of other characters are reduced to the main characters. And specifically in this game, to the male protagonist.
SomeAwakenedDude2026-01-22 06:52
i see people make this argument whenever someone posts a fanart of Columbina and Aether, but not when it's Columbina and Sandrone (or even Lumine). Double standards much?
arbabarda2026-01-22 06:55
No, because it's not a player-specific character. Columbine and Sandrone have their own story that develops independently of the player. In the case of the player, what is being done to Columbine is intentional and for specific reasons. If for some reason you refuse to believe it, then it's just a delusion.
slayer589x2026-01-22 08:35
I don't think that matters as long as her relationship with the main character is geniunine and we'll developed .
SomeAwakenedDude2026-01-22 10:44
I find the relationship between Traveller and Columbina to be way more well developed than Columbina and Sandrone
Old_Square_91002026-01-22 06:38
I don't think its just about the parallelism. Its about something else...
I know I might be downvoted to oblivion for this, but a lot of people want their ships (with the other harbingers) to sail.
This has been the case with her even before she released (you could see some of Arlecchino's fanarts) that some people don't enjoy the special bond she has now with the traveler (which is in my "humble opinion" is warranted given how much he changed her perspective of other people to the better).
99cent-tea2026-01-22 06:50
The parallel *IS* the ship
Even if OP didn’t mean for it to be shippy, most people assume due to the nature of gacha games in general (along with past interactions with Traveler and TB)
Old_Square_91002026-01-22 07:44
Both traveler and TB (as far I know since I don't play HSR) are not in romantic ships though, so the "parallelism" here is just two characters who have a special bond with a specific female character. Hoyo will never make playable characters in romantic relationship because this is gacha and is long-term game.
Furthermore, this does not refute my point of why this post is getting downvoted (even if its about a ship). I have interacted (or at least seen interactions) with many people on this sub and many of them have a problem with how Columbina is portrayed around the traveler.
99cent-tea2026-01-22 07:55
They don’t need to be explicitly stated as romantic
Both have HAD characters tease big interest in them that could be construed as romantic in the past (Citlali and Firefly) that leaves a bad impression on a lotta people, more so when it’s the dude featured and not the girl
Same thing here, you said so yourself “special bond” but because of past story treatment with girls laser focusing on the MC’s a good portion of people can see it as implied romantic, hence the downvotes
Old_Square_91002026-01-22 08:12
I mean I get your point and while I get this might be disappointing for some, but I still think this does not warrant the downvotes here (especially when all other ships are just hypothetical and not in-game real and still other people draw arts about); same with a lot of other characters.
Practically, all characters treat each other as simply friends in-game, so this is just story-thing problem, it does not impact any "imaginary" ship.
Crushblade2026-01-22 06:13
It almost as it’s been written
tuataraaa2026-01-22 06:15
if only they both shared a parallel of being properly introduced and having a story arc go on for more than one patch
Elinim2026-01-22 06:17
Cyrene's story is more romantic on a more cosmic scale but I liked Columbina's story more as it was much more intimate with the entire nod krai cast and her own character development.
iravu_R2026-01-22 06:22
being the concept of love vs being the concept of understanding love
A_Peculiar_Fish2026-01-22 06:21
Its a shame that Cyrene has little moments with the heirs, certainly not many interactions as Columbina had with Nod-Krai casts.
I dont really care if she's a waifubait, but the mental gymnastics Hoyo writers performed on her complicated backstory, not giving Cyrene any interactions with the only significant connection she has (that we learned from ver. 3.0 a while back) with Phainon, really hurts her character.
Appropriate_Gate11292026-01-22 06:30
What are "little moments with ch" you are talking about? Can you make an example? 🤔
A_Peculiar_Fish2026-01-22 06:35
In 3.5 and 3.6, as Mem mostly. Very little moments like I said. Most of it is offscreen, waiting for the Trailblazer for a millenia? I think.
Appropriate_Gate11292026-01-22 06:47
So, with all respect one stranger can show another stranger: none (moments) between *Cyrene* and CH. Mem doesn't have deep connection with any CH too.
Off screentime doesn't count because you can *imagine* a ton, that's not writing, that's letting your players imagine what you could have written.
Additionally, if she had some moments in millennia with others she sure would have interacted with anyone aside of TB after evolving into Cyrene. She's not. Devs put her into the corner so one one could touch her or speak to her.
A_Peculiar_Fish2026-01-22 06:58
Are you arguing or giving more context? Cause pretty much what you said I agree. Little moments.
Appropriate_Gate11292026-01-22 07:31
All in all, respectfully, I regret your words on that she have any meaningful interactions with ch. We can agree that she have bare minimum of any, but imo that's not in a good way interactions should be (low quality), and goes only as if yo show that mem is visible for others. All in all it's tragedy: what they did to her story.
Ayges2026-01-22 07:33
She briefly spoke to Cerydra, but it was about TB, seriously reread her lines from 3.5 most of them are either to TB or about TB it's crazy. Say what you will about Bina but at least they let her talk to people. Hell even if they barely interacted I can believe Bina is friends with Flins Albedo Varka and Durin. Cyrene is supposedly obsessed with the CH and their stories and yearns to join their adventures and yet never shows it
Appropriate_Gate11292026-01-22 07:42
I REALLY loved how they did Bina. She have actual friends and talked to everyone. When it were festival I were half expecting her to stick to MC and that will be gg, but she had more fun with fellow fatui agents which is sweet. Having her to figure out her friendship with Sandrone were really one f the best decisions.
Asbfor Cyrene: I'm buffed how she have voice line for each ch for joining the party as if she knows them THAT personally. Those interactions out of nowhere. And of course I *love* how her (Cyrene form) meeting with Phainon goes:
Cyrene: I'm not her.
Phainon: I know. I guess I will go fk myself. Just kill me already bruh
Ayges2026-01-22 07:52
Another nice touch was having Albedo be the one to draw her in the post card could've easily been Traveller but nope it was Albedo because he made her a promise. It was a nice little moment that establishes a bond without saying much of anything
And those Cyrene lines are so surface level it's hilarious, Mydei is buff "lets work out!" Anaxa doesn't like being called Anaxa lets call him by his full name! Castorice is an author, who couldn't touch people previously "lets hug and share stories" there is so much more to those character than that but since she has no friends they can't give her any more unique lines, like Phainon focusing on his rivalry with Mydei or his time as Anaxa's student. Or Cipher treating Aglaea like a mom in her lines.
And yeah that lack of reunion is why I refused to give her even a single jade. Got E1 Tribbie instead. Not as good but I don't care
Appropriate_Gate11292026-01-22 07:59
I also love her bond with Lauma. 💕
Ayges2026-01-22 08:02
Yeah it's funny seeing Lauma who is technically a worshipper of her or at least was at some point, and also much younger, taking a motherly role towards her
Appropriate_Gate11292026-01-22 08:17
Laume, aside from her design, one of the best nod krai characters.
syahrulmizan2026-01-22 07:49
>with Flins Albedo Varka and Durin
Add Dain in there too, ngl their short f2f interaction made me somewhat emotional...
Ayges2026-01-22 08:20
True, they gave her a 1 on 1 moment with a male character and the MC wasn't really the focus. For Cyrene they wouldn't even consider the possibility of doing that even if it was a girl.
InAndOut512026-01-22 06:36
>I don't really care if she's a waifubait
Sadly, Cyrene's relationships were written that way precisely *because* she's a waifubait, and that has always been my problem with such characters. It affects their writing in more ways than "and also she feels a connection to the MC".
Even with Columbina, it's no coincidence that most of her memorable interactions, aside from the Traveler, are with other women.
Mysterious_Object_202026-01-22 06:53
Basically any gacha that follows the "character of the patch" kind of writing. Zero depth, zero longevity, come in for the quick tear jerks and hype moments, then off you go for the next patch girlie to take the spotlight.
InAndOut512026-01-22 07:03
>then off you go for the next patch girlie to take the spotlight
ZZZ recently had a somewhat obnoxious marketing campaign about their current main push character, that included a POV date video. At some point the girl wistfully says something along the lines of "I really hope I get to spend the next Christmas with you too..."
A lot of comments under the video were like "Sorry, girlie, next Christmas I'll have a newer, better waifu simping for me.", which really highlighted to me how superficial that sort of writing was.
A_Peculiar_Fish2026-01-22 06:56
Atleast Columbina had interactions with others. A waifubait, true, but not as egregious as Cyrene. She's at a level where Hoyo had to backpedal from giving a conclusion to her established relationship with other than the Trailblazer, lol.
Ayges2026-01-22 07:57
Hoyo had 3 similar characters across their 3 games but on different ends of the spectrum. Bina is by far the most mild like she has friends even male ones, YSG is in the middle because sure she doesn't have that many friends but she does have close non MC bonds. And then on the extreme end is Cyrene who Hoyo mind wiped and then created an entire timeloop to explain her lack of friends.
Appropriate_Gate11292026-01-22 08:07
I would say Ysg is closer to Cyrene, than in the middle. Her (POV) relationship with her brother is kinda bad written compared to all writing they did for mc. I felt sorry for her brother and how he were (and IS) willing to sacrifice everything for her and she still have no deep scenes with him but so much with mc.
Ayges2026-01-22 08:24
I meant relative to each other, but yeah I suppose you're right. I do wonder how Hoyo views this ML experiment, Bina is more popularly shipped with Sandrone, YSG sold well but that's ZZZ well, not Genshin and HSR well. While Cyrene by all accounts underperformed
Neospanner2026-01-22 15:36
I don't play HSR, but didn't Cyrene have a bunch of gameplay issues that made her kind of undesirable? Like being most useful for her ultimate, but requiring multiple copies for that ult to be reliably available? (And worse - in advertising and demos, showing the mulit-copy version rather than the base version.)
Ayges2026-01-22 15:41
Her kit is clunky but it's very strong she is the bis unit for almost every meta dps in the game atm. They did market her dishonestly but even at C0 she is fine metawise. Hate towards her is from story mostly
Eroica_Pavane2026-01-22 16:00
It really depends on how you read into Shunguang tbh. She has this funny disconnect between her marketing and her in game story. She’s marketed like Cyrene but then in the game most of her deeper conflicts are with her brother. And it all end up about her wanting to save the people of Failume Bay or something.
magnidwarf19002026-01-22 06:27
Perfection
YannFrost2026-01-22 06:28
Wise look at Eous in ZZZ.....
Adventurous-Fan-17772026-01-22 06:29
hahaha
arbabarda2026-01-22 06:44
nightmare
Hudie_is2026-01-22 06:44
Fortunately Bina was handled better, she has other interactions with other cast, her strong connection wasn’t just with traveller
What Cyrene could’ve had
Luc1281282026-01-22 07:05
Cute
Frigid-Kev2026-01-22 07:12
Where's the Zenless version??
Realistic_Sound9132026-01-22 07:26
Hoyo becoming even more straight these years. Good.
OkCreme1012026-01-22 08:40
Comparing Columbina to Cyrene is an offense to Columbina.
Also didn't like it either way but Columbina is a much better story.
Crushblade2026-01-22 08:57
Both being the best girl in their own ver is crazy
Crushblade2026-01-22 09:04
Don’t let the negativity here skew your thought
Majority of ppl like this, the small loud people being loud as always
D-S_122026-01-22 14:39
As someone who played both arcs, Cyrene just spent too much in the background of the story for me to feel anything on her. We spent a lot of time with Columbina and there was the time spent to actually be with her such that losing and then reuniting with her were moments to remember.
For Cyrene, the interaction with the Trailblazer and the Chrysos Heirs we know of was just too little. She's just there.
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Ps : Also, thank you to everyone who gave positive feedback. I was just sharing my perspective and the parallels I noticed between the games I play—I didn’t mean to stir anything up. Still, thank you all, I really, really appreciate it.
Yeah, she have emotional arc and connect with other cast but this doesn't change the fact that she is waifu.
Any female character that is close or intimate with mc is waifu in my dictionary (This doesn't apply to irl, just talking about gacha characters)
I know I might be downvoted to oblivion for this, but a lot of people want their ships (with the other harbingers) to sail.
This has been the case with her even before she released (you could see some of Arlecchino's fanarts) that some people don't enjoy the special bond she has now with the traveler (which is in my "humble opinion" is warranted given how much he changed her perspective of other people to the better).
Even if OP didn’t mean for it to be shippy, most people assume due to the nature of gacha games in general (along with past interactions with Traveler and TB)
Furthermore, this does not refute my point of why this post is getting downvoted (even if its about a ship). I have interacted (or at least seen interactions) with many people on this sub and many of them have a problem with how Columbina is portrayed around the traveler.
Both have HAD characters tease big interest in them that could be construed as romantic in the past (Citlali and Firefly) that leaves a bad impression on a lotta people, more so when it’s the dude featured and not the girl
Same thing here, you said so yourself “special bond” but because of past story treatment with girls laser focusing on the MC’s a good portion of people can see it as implied romantic, hence the downvotes
Practically, all characters treat each other as simply friends in-game, so this is just story-thing problem, it does not impact any "imaginary" ship.
I dont really care if she's a waifubait, but the mental gymnastics Hoyo writers performed on her complicated backstory, not giving Cyrene any interactions with the only significant connection she has (that we learned from ver. 3.0 a while back) with Phainon, really hurts her character.
Off screentime doesn't count because you can *imagine* a ton, that's not writing, that's letting your players imagine what you could have written.
Additionally, if she had some moments in millennia with others she sure would have interacted with anyone aside of TB after evolving into Cyrene. She's not. Devs put her into the corner so one one could touch her or speak to her.
Asbfor Cyrene: I'm buffed how she have voice line for each ch for joining the party as if she knows them THAT personally. Those interactions out of nowhere. And of course I *love* how her (Cyrene form) meeting with Phainon goes:
Cyrene: I'm not her.
Phainon: I know. I guess I will go fk myself. Just kill me already bruh
And those Cyrene lines are so surface level it's hilarious, Mydei is buff "lets work out!" Anaxa doesn't like being called Anaxa lets call him by his full name! Castorice is an author, who couldn't touch people previously "lets hug and share stories" there is so much more to those character than that but since she has no friends they can't give her any more unique lines, like Phainon focusing on his rivalry with Mydei or his time as Anaxa's student. Or Cipher treating Aglaea like a mom in her lines.
And yeah that lack of reunion is why I refused to give her even a single jade. Got E1 Tribbie instead. Not as good but I don't care
Add Dain in there too, ngl their short f2f interaction made me somewhat emotional...
Sadly, Cyrene's relationships were written that way precisely *because* she's a waifubait, and that has always been my problem with such characters. It affects their writing in more ways than "and also she feels a connection to the MC".
Even with Columbina, it's no coincidence that most of her memorable interactions, aside from the Traveler, are with other women.
ZZZ recently had a somewhat obnoxious marketing campaign about their current main push character, that included a POV date video. At some point the girl wistfully says something along the lines of "I really hope I get to spend the next Christmas with you too..."
A lot of comments under the video were like "Sorry, girlie, next Christmas I'll have a newer, better waifu simping for me.", which really highlighted to me how superficial that sort of writing was.
What Cyrene could’ve had
Also didn't like it either way but Columbina is a much better story.
Majority of ppl like this, the small loud people being loud as always
For Cyrene, the interaction with the Trailblazer and the Chrysos Heirs we know of was just too little. She's just there.