Questions i have abt celestia

1: what are the "nails"? Like is it the Primordial one's toe nails or what. And why did they drop the nails? Ik they dropped it on dragon spine cuz there was a civilizations they didnt approve of (i donno why tho) but i dont know the other times on why they dropped it

2: what is on/in celestia? I presume in the middle, where the big tower is, resides the Primordial one. But what abt the other ones? What does the interior look like? Is phane's bed a comfy room or do they just lay passed out on their throne or floor

3: what is the relationship between the archons and celestia? I do know that there was a archon war, and why it happened, but i think i recall something along the lines that the archons dont really like celestia.

4: why is phanes asleep like a damn stone? Not even (spoilers ahed) the fake sky ripping open was not enough to get them to wake up in a cold sweat? And not even a entire nation getting run over by the abyss?

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PaulStarhaven2026-01-22 19:17

1) They are essentially Abyss purifying nukes. They get dropped when the world is in danger of falling apart. The environmental changes are a side effect
4) They've been out for the count since the Khaenrian cataclysm. Suppressing that exhausted/severely hurt them.

perfectchaos832026-01-22 19:27

1. Just imagine them like giant nails. More aptly, it's like a Pillar. The Known nail impact sites we know of are Dragonspine, the Chasm and the Night Kingdom. Presumed impact sites are the Desert and Tsurumi Island (We have not actually seen these nails). Khaenri'ah also got nailed per lore. There may be at least one more implied location that I am not remembering. They are both a punishment and a means of purifying the Abyss.

2. Nobody knows. Our best guess would be that one panel in the manga where Vanessa turns to a bird.

3. Archons are subservient to Celestia. In simple terms, Celestia is the boss of the Archons.

4. They've been fucked up since the war of funerary flame and went totally silent 500 years ago.

MREAGLEYT2026-01-22 19:47

Alright, let's see if the lore nerd in me is still intact.

I am going to assume that you have done all AQ up to date. If not I'd highly suggest not proceeding, im not gonna spoiler tag cuz... I don't know how to ngl.

1: Nails are those, iron nail tower looking structures that we see in Dragonspine (cuz celestia nuked Sal vindagnyr civilazation for knowing too much, which presumably means abyssal corruption), Chasm depths and even the Night kingdom. And the one we don't see at the Tsurumi island and somewhere in the desert. All to eradicate abyssal knowledge or anything that threatens the celestia's rule.

2: Simply? We do not know. We could see a great palace or a rundown one. Its equally possible. The only glimpse into celestia's look is from the genshin comic when Venessa ascends and becomes the Falcon of the west, you should check it out.

3: Relationship is more like "I'll guarantee you have the highest elemental authority in your nation and the element, just make sure nothing that threatens my rule happens in your countries and uphold our NDA"

Simple as that. Celestia garantee the highest elemental authority in turn for them keeping a watch on the little beings for the HP.

4: Now ill say it again. Heavy Heavy spoilers!!!! Don't proceed if you haven't done and dont want to spoil one of the greatest information that you can come across only after finishing the Luna act V.

From what we gathered we can theorise that this "being" HP isn't in a simple hibernation process. But an energy reservation cooldown, if not a system shutdown. After having terra formed everything and being beaten up by the corrupted original dragon lord Nibelung, The moon weapons and ultimately The cataclysm, They have been badly weakened. The Primordial one, only left shade's to govern and theoretically a certain guide for their master.

I highly suggest you watch the latest video about twins and HP from CatWithBlueHat on yt

Better-Movie-77362026-01-22 20:44

>After having terra formed everything and being beaten up by the corrupted original dragon lord Nibelung, The moon weapons and ultimately The cataclysm, They have been badly weakened

And most likely somewhere between these was dealing with his "Daughter's" And "Son/Daughter-in-Law's" rebelion

Neospanner2026-01-22 21:12

1. Celestial Nails are huge, spike-shaped objects that can be found at various places in the game. Solving the Dragonspine quests reassembles one (which then hovers above Dragonspine). There's another in the depths of the Chasm in Liyue. As for why the nails were dropped, it was originally assumed that they were dropped to punish nations that offended the gods of Celestia. Later on, it was discovered that the nails clean up Abyssal contamination, so folks started to suspect that that was their primary purpose and that the damage they deal was unintentional; civilizations weren't being punished, but were collateral damage while trying to clean up the Abyss. Very, very recently, though, enough to need spoiler warnings, >!the Moon Maidens revealed that their relationship with Celestia had become strained because Celestia was dropping nails on civilizations that disobeyed the rules they set down.!< So maybe both reasons are accurate. Punishment AND cleanup.
2. We know very, very little about Celestia. The only clue we have as to what it might look like on the inside is a segment from the prologue chapter of the [Genshin Impact Official Manga](https://genshin.hoyoverse.com/en/manga/detail/104863?mute=1), which showed Venessa's ascension to Celestia. There, she found what seemed to be a tall chamber filled with countless alcoves.
3. The archons have said nothing explicitly about their feelings about Celestia, so we can only interpret. They fought in the Archon Wars to claim the Gnoses, but none of them seem all that broken up about the idea of giving those Gnoses away in the present day.
4. According to [Neuvillette's Vision Story](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Neuvillette/Profile#Vision), after the Funerary War the Heavenly Principles "had their functions ruined" and could no longer properly maintain control over the world. It created the Gnoses and established the Vision-granting system in order to maintain that control. While we don't know for certain why it went silent after that, many presume that it went to sleep in order to recover from the damage it had sustained, leaving its Four Shades to keep house in the meantime.