Its honestly really fun just search āPVPā in miliastra and it should be the first result
ImTheBias2026-01-23 05:28
how does the dmg even work? I see multiple hits with numbers way above anyone's HP LOL
Quartapple2026-01-23 09:04
The creator made a thread introducing it like a week back, and they said that all characters take like 5-10% of the displayed damage number
Honest_Milk_82742026-01-23 12:03
There is a reason those gachas don't have PvP: you can't cater for whales and make the game fair and competitive at the same time.
Diablo Immortal is a huge flop exactly because of that. Even games that are almost perfectly balanced, such as World of Warcraft, receive a lot of hate, because a 5% difference in power will be exploited. Imagine in Genshin, a game where some characters are 2 or 3 times stronger than others, and whales are 5 to 12 times stronger than F2P players.
The only way this would work (barely) is if a character can't take more than 15% HP damage within a given window, and heals can't heal more than 5% HP per second. Then you have to think about shields. And to limit max damage taken could possibly screw characters like Mavuika, who are centered around big bursts, and favor reactions like electrocharged.
Far_Priority_13742026-01-22 22:27
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Akomatai2026-01-22 22:45
Genshin pvp is arguing online about how your favorite youtube/twitter tc is more accurate than everyone else's favorite tc
Berry_Sprout2026-01-22 22:47
Ok but bouncytcboy1370 is the best /j :^)
FluffyGuest2026-01-22 22:50
It'll be good if they add multiplayer co-op pvp with ranking system, imagine the war.
CHONPSCa2026-01-22 22:55
Toxicity any% speedrun
"Lol wallet warrior"
"Get a job"
FluffyGuest2026-01-22 23:00
Haters gonna hate
WandererMisha2026-01-23 13:27
I want this just because the internet would explode lol
MofoPro2026-01-22 23:05
Is this a actual thing in the game ?
Mochi-TheCat2026-01-22 23:27
Yes, it's janky as fuck but yeah
Chris0403022026-01-22 23:34
It's in miliastra wonderland, it's pretty fun to mess around in but at the end of the day these characters were not meant to be used against other players so balance is almost out the window
You are restricted on which characters you can use, which is good, because realistically there's virtually no way to deal with a character like Chasca unless you also have a Chasca lol
Also, I think that because you and your opponent are still technically on the same you still share team passives, so if you pick hydro and cryo characters and your opponent picks Escoffier and Skirk, Escoffier still gets the max team passive because of your characters
MofoPro2026-01-23 16:20
No wonder I never heard of it I haven't touched Miliastra , for a second I thought it was in GI like Windtrace or something
GoldenSnowSakura2026-01-22 23:20
This just needs adjustment modifiers for the characters to balance it out lmao
StickMick012026-01-23 00:22
Trust me, no amount of balancing is going to fix that mode. Most kits are not meant for PvP anyway (freeze reaction being one example)
KucingRumahan2026-01-23 02:46
Even 1s freeze in pvp is long enough
Tamamo_was_here2026-01-23 04:10
Can't freeze me if they can't reach me. My C2 Yae and Bina just melts them before they can reach me.
luciluci55622026-01-23 06:41
Some whale using Chasca freeze is going to humble you real quick.
Tamamo_was_here2026-01-23 12:09
How will a Chasca freeze if you can only use two characters?
StrongSquirrelKnight2026-01-23 12:23
The opponents character still counts as an teammate for chasca.
So if you have columbina, they just need a cryo character and then they can freeze.
Tamamo_was_here2026-01-23 12:33
Thanks for the info on that one. Having played it for a few hours, I havenāt run into anyone using her. Iāve seen a few players tec like Wander staying in air so you canāt reach, and the double geo shield spam.
The best duo Iāve seen is either a very high con Mav and Citiali comp or the Bina and Yae. Having played like 17 matches and losing none. The game dev should probably put some bans on characters.
DeadliftFam2026-01-23 19:18
Chasca is banned now and there is an item you can start the pvp with that unfreezes you
nghigaxx2026-01-23 02:26
no adjustment gonna save you from chasca freeze
sublime_dud2026-01-23 00:45
Spiral Abyss causes anxiety to PvP
YannFrost2026-01-23 00:57
I just thought of something.
Long ago there is a tourney for Genshin where they have a pick and ban and see who can clear Spiral Abyss the quickest. I wonder, With Miliastra is it possible?
jcrka2026-01-23 05:13
AFAIK not enough mobs in MiliastraĀ atm. Later may be possible
ImTheBias2026-01-23 05:30
talking about banning for pvp
TrueSeaworthiness7032026-01-23 02:05
Who is up for an only Amber charge shot? (Not me)
PedroLippi2026-01-23 02:23
I used Amber in another PvP Wonderland. It was fun.
kkaafrank2026-01-23 07:41
This will be genshinās mundo dodgeball
a_feral_priestess2026-01-24 02:08
Finally a use for my 300% crit damage amber
_Feyr2026-01-23 02:22
Can't dodge can't parry. Heavily p2w
h2odragon002026-01-23 07:40
In all seriousness, a PvP like this can't be easily balanced unless they are able to nerf or buff each characters.
Putrid-Resident2026-01-23 12:33
The nature of a PvE game is that the kit balancing of characters for mob and boss enemies doesn't take into account balancing between each other. And that before even taking into account other stuff like cons/weapons/high artifact investment... etc.
My favourite example I have experience with is the optional PvP mode in warframe. The frames are greatly balanced for the main PvE modes but most of the rooster is by their core fundamental kits design unplayable in PvP so no amount of PvP specific buffs/nerfs the devs tried to add helped. Now it's nothing more but a thing freinds do vs each other for the lols and nothing close to a serious competitive mode, similar to how it is in MW atm.
Andoran222026-01-24 02:15
That's why in Destiny damage numbers are significantly lowered to the point where nobody can 1-tap other players... Unless you're using shotguns, snipers, or supers but I digress
And in Warframe, they have mods that you can only use in the conclave modes so that there's balance there as well.
Impossible-Ice1292026-01-23 15:21
It's almost like there is a reason genshin didn't implement pvp themselves
Mael89Strom2026-01-23 03:14
In future MW iteration, if they allow people to play with any GI character, maybe a map creator can force Trial Characters for all characters. Then before going into PvP, there is a lobby where they can pick and choose artifacts and weapons limited to a certain amount of points. Points could be used to pick the artifacts and weapon. For artifact, it is not random, you use points to pick the main stats and substats. then you use points to pick which substats get increased. Map creator can balance it by making the most desired stats for that specific character cost more points.
BreakMyFate2026-01-23 03:23
I mean doesn't Neuvy just like auto win every battle? I haven't played it yet but I would imagine hp scalers would just be busted.
unoteworthy2026-01-23 03:45
Freeze is busted
luffy_Themasterpeice2026-01-23 03:41
wut if i use zhongli now
Tamamo_was_here2026-01-23 04:11
Someone used double Geo with Zhongli and Best Maid but it didn't do much.
Fenix435932026-01-23 07:37
Theres a list of unusable chracters, zhongli is on there
kifune892026-01-23 04:05
Finally we need MOBA please for Genshin using our own character
Honest_Milk_82742026-01-23 12:09
Your own characters? That will never work.
In a MOBA you start with no items and at level 1 and progress as the game goes on. What's the point of starting a game at the "49 minutes mark", where some people have a ceiling higher than yours.
I guess you meant to use the main game characters? That would make more sense, but considering the amount of balance that would be necessary, it's easier to create a brand new kit than using the existing ones.
uwu_you2026-01-23 04:46
VARESA ON PAMBER
Ramza_452026-01-23 05:08
Someday I'll find the right person to duel with only Qiqi
Yuki-jou2026-01-23 07:40
I would challenge your lone Qiqi with a lone Baizhu. She does more damage, but he heals like crazy, so I think it would be an absolute, unending stalemate.
Confident_River_35832026-01-23 06:32
Didnāt know emotional damage counted as PVP...
beratbayram2026-01-23 07:32
Maybe fixed stats (like kqms) and forced C0R1 would be fun. Idk if it is possible in MW.Ā
Royal_empress_azu2026-01-23 08:49
Furina players always losing.
fazz1002026-01-23 09:33
i can already smell the DOTA like field moba style custom map brewing in the background, but it will still be 3rd person view
Putrid-Resident2026-01-23 12:23
Found it yesterday too it was suprisingly very fun. Even the few whales I meet tried to make it interesting via handiecapping themselves like using only one character or just chatting between ending my existence.
Some highlights is the furina main who crawled up the arena walls like a gecko and taunting me while their 3 goons wailed at me and the 900IQ play of the chori + em build albedo team who used crystallise sheilds tobe basically immortal.
My favourite though is the ganyu main who asked me to become a moving shooting target and I agreed.
InternetKaJamai2026-01-23 13:19
I am a beginner here, still in sorry mode in liyue..
And these numbers feel illegal
Venti_pspsps2026-01-23 21:33
I don't like this mode simply because I keep getting paired with whales. One skill and burst from a c6r5 mavuika/columbina-flex was all it took for my characters lol. I didn't even get to deploy all my skills and burst.
If only the mode gave us the same builds.
_rat_teeth_2026-01-26 00:37
yeah eveytime i try to get on to play it now that more people are aware of itās existence i get one shot by a mavuika or frozen the whole game by skirk its a fun game but not playable when those characters are used
gbrlouk2026-01-24 04:38
Pvp might be restricted to 4 stars like thoma, xinyan, amber, dahlia, mika, barbara, lanyan, yunjin, kirara, kujou sara, freminet, collei, ifa, kachina, ororion, jahoda, aino, noelle, and Illuga.
Imagine it's battle royale where your support skills can buff or heal enemies, so you would need to time whenever you use a skill or burst. Since buffs and heals should have a small radius zone that gets buffed or healed.
As for passives Barbara full rez only benefits dps Barbara. Yunjin skill counters, Thoma, Kirara, Dahlia, and Noelle have op shields, Mika buffs atk spd, Ifa can fly.
astraeaastars2026-01-24 19:54
When I begged for freeze meta to return this isn't quite what I meant but I'll take it lol
yznts2026-01-24 20:22
There is a reason why Hoyo aviods PvP. it completely doesn't fit to the intended game purpose (relax, escape from harshness and negative emotions), doesn't fit in terms of balance (understandable), and doesn't fit to the monetization model (people who lose = people who not pay). They're trying to minimize situations when you could feel to be worse than others.
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Diablo Immortal is a huge flop exactly because of that. Even games that are almost perfectly balanced, such as World of Warcraft, receive a lot of hate, because a 5% difference in power will be exploited. Imagine in Genshin, a game where some characters are 2 or 3 times stronger than others, and whales are 5 to 12 times stronger than F2P players.
The only way this would work (barely) is if a character can't take more than 15% HP damage within a given window, and heals can't heal more than 5% HP per second. Then you have to think about shields. And to limit max damage taken could possibly screw characters like Mavuika, who are centered around big bursts, and favor reactions like electrocharged.
"Lol wallet warrior"
"Get a job"
You are restricted on which characters you can use, which is good, because realistically there's virtually no way to deal with a character like Chasca unless you also have a Chasca lol
Also, I think that because you and your opponent are still technically on the same you still share team passives, so if you pick hydro and cryo characters and your opponent picks Escoffier and Skirk, Escoffier still gets the max team passive because of your characters
So if you have columbina, they just need a cryo character and then they can freeze.
The best duo Iāve seen is either a very high con Mav and Citiali comp or the Bina and Yae. Having played like 17 matches and losing none. The game dev should probably put some bans on characters.
Long ago there is a tourney for Genshin where they have a pick and ban and see who can clear Spiral Abyss the quickest. I wonder, With Miliastra is it possible?
My favourite example I have experience with is the optional PvP mode in warframe. The frames are greatly balanced for the main PvE modes but most of the rooster is by their core fundamental kits design unplayable in PvP so no amount of PvP specific buffs/nerfs the devs tried to add helped. Now it's nothing more but a thing freinds do vs each other for the lols and nothing close to a serious competitive mode, similar to how it is in MW atm.
And in Warframe, they have mods that you can only use in the conclave modes so that there's balance there as well.
In a MOBA you start with no items and at level 1 and progress as the game goes on. What's the point of starting a game at the "49 minutes mark", where some people have a ceiling higher than yours.
I guess you meant to use the main game characters? That would make more sense, but considering the amount of balance that would be necessary, it's easier to create a brand new kit than using the existing ones.
Some highlights is the furina main who crawled up the arena walls like a gecko and taunting me while their 3 goons wailed at me and the 900IQ play of the chori + em build albedo team who used crystallise sheilds tobe basically immortal.
My favourite though is the ganyu main who asked me to become a moving shooting target and I agreed.
And these numbers feel illegal
If only the mode gave us the same builds.
Imagine it's battle royale where your support skills can buff or heal enemies, so you would need to time whenever you use a skill or burst. Since buffs and heals should have a small radius zone that gets buffed or healed.
As for passives Barbara full rez only benefits dps Barbara. Yunjin skill counters, Thoma, Kirara, Dahlia, and Noelle have op shields, Mika buffs atk spd, Ifa can fly.