Who do you think its the most politically powerful character of each region?
hey guys! who do you think, in your opinion, is the most powerful (politically speaking) charachter of every region? it doesnt matter if there an pc or npc. i wanna hear your thoughts. and if you have time, why do you think these character will the most power in these regions. again, npc are included if they are powerful.
i apologize if this was already discussed here.
i apologize if this was already discussed here.
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I guess that's why she so easily played every factions like her puppets in the Archon quest. From the Fatui to the resistance to the tricommission to traveler, they were all basically dancing to her tune, all so she can enter Ei.
Hmmmmmmm
>She kept everything running with Shogunator as a figurehead until Ei suddenly came up with the Sakoku decree at the start of the game.
The game tells you word for word how governance in inazuma works. Tricommission reports to the shogun -> Shogun processes the information -> she gives out orders -> Tricommission implements them. Miko doesn't have much of a power in that, heck she couldn't even stop the tricommission from betraying the shogun and colluding with the fatui, that's how little influence she has.
Shogun's orders were always to maintain eternity aka stasis. Sheer didn't hold the gnosis. GNS is the one behind the running of the social and civil fabric of the nation for five centuries.
There is no evidence until VHD to show that Shogunator actively governed, the Tricommission came up with proposals and Shogun signed off on them. They mainly stayed in line because they all fear the Shogun.
Also Yae didn't stop the Fatui plot because she used the unrest as a means to reach her goal of getting Ei to come back out at which point the exitant issues solve themselves.
Liyue: Ningguang: Political feats of being the Qixing that makes laws, and being filthy rich to the point she has a floating mansion.
Inazuma: Yae: Political feats of being the Shogun's BFF, head of Yae Publishing who has fingers in every region.
Sumeru: Dori: Political feats of being the most powerful merchant in Teyvat, with clients such as Alice, Skirk, and Nahida.
Fontaine: Navia Political feats of being head of the Spina, and having structures name after her and her family
Natlan: Mavuika: Political feats of being the Pyro archon. The other Natlan people don't really have much pull.
Nod-Krai: Aino: Political feats of her shit being EVERYWHERE in nod-krai, and integrated into the daily lives of those people.
IMO Seamus Pegg is a real leader of Mondstadt. KoF are the front face, while Church is a real power behind them.
He's also the only reason they still have electricity. Navia is more the "Worker's-Party"-lady.
Edit: in Simulanka it’s King Navia as long as none of the goddesses show up
Liyue: ninguang , because of its economic hold on liyue's economy also the leader of qixing
Inazuma: kamisato ayato since he control the yashiro commission which is the only entity in inazuma untainted by the fatui and the vision hunt decree since this is the only commission that looks after the people, the people of inazuma has full support on them. Essencially ayato already have the sway of the civilians because of the soft power of its clan also ayato control the intelligence network of the nation.
Sumeru: nahida since she is the current dendro archon that has actively participated on the running of the nation
Fontaine: neuvillette no doubt since he is the Iudex the highest position on fontaine
Natlan: mavuika since she is the pyro archon
Nod krai: technically it should be Nikita the leader of the light keepers since the lightkeepers are the one who are protecting nod krai from the abyss and they are the one who act as a law enforcement of the region also the tsaritsa gave the light keepers her blessing of giving nod krai some autonomy from snezhnaya in exchange of protecting nod krai but given the lightkeepers is in its weakest, they no longer have the same authority as the once had during their early years.
There’s nothing unclear here. “In my absence, I leave everything in Miko’s hands.” Explicitly stated by the Archon herself in her second story quest. Not a single mention of Ayato or any other commission. You are literally comparing the Archon’s divine familiar who is the equivalent of Hakushin and Kitsune Saiguu to random commission heads who get replaced every few decades max.
Ningguang on the frontlines, Yelan from the Shadows
Yae Miko
Dori
Navia, Wriothesley(When Meropide fortress is involved)
Nefer and Jahoda
Pantalone and Pulcinella.
Also Archons other than Venti and Zhong Li and Neuvilette basically hold absolute authority over all the political matters
\- Jean / Varka
\- ~~Morax~~ \-> Ningguang
\- Raiden Shogun
\- Nahida
\- ~~Furina~~ \-> Neuvillete
\- Mavuika
\- The tsariza
Not as known to the general public but with enough power to move arround important people in the country
\- Alice / Barbatos
\- Zhong li
\- Yae miko
\- Sandrone / Arleccino
\- The lord of the night
\- Columbina
\- ???
Most of these are not on the same level but they deffinetly can influence the county & land significantly.
Liyue: The Qixing. According to the lore they are equal in rank. Ningguang holds authority over the law so probably her. Uncle Tian holds authority over policymaking but he isn’t known by the public.
Inazuma: Either Yae Miko or the Tri-Commission Leaders. That being said, 2/3 leaders of the Tri-Commission left after the events of the Inazuma Archon quest so Yae and Ayato probably have much more influence than the others.
Sumeru: Probably Nahida currently. There’s no Grand Sage atm and Alhaitham does not enjoy being in leadership. Aaru Village Chief Uncle Anpu probably has the most power in Aaru village.
Fontaine: Neuvillette to some extent, although his need for impartiality does constrain him on some level. We can’t really see how exactly the state of Fontaine is run.
Natlan: Mavuika, and it’s not particularly close. Each Tribe Chief also holds a large amount of power in their tribes. Iansan is highly respected in the CoP as the Head Fitness Coach. Citlali could be the centre of the MoNW if she tried.
Nod-Krai: There is none, that’s kinda the point. Every faction is fighting for power and none of them have complete power.
Snezhnaya: the Tsaritsa
Liyue is Ningguang, she is technically the same rank as the other Qixing but she is the richest, has a literal floating Nuke, lead two Liyue defenses, and has become the de facto human contact for the Adepti.
Inazuma is Yae Miko. She is practically the Archon for the past five hundred years serving as the shadow ruler with Shogun as a figurehead. She practically controls Inazuma's culture via the Yae publishing house, she is like 90% of Inazuma's soft power. That combined with Ei being very inexperienced at actually ruling (she never ruled before Makoto died and then went into POE to meditate), her finding her footing as a ruler over civilian matters, her tendencies to defer to Yae on policy, and Yae's ability to control every factions in the nation's borders makes Yae undeniable.
Nahida is Sumeru's political center after the Archon quest. While Dori is the richest, Sumerians defer primarily to knowledge and not wealth like Liyueans. Nahida really began flexing her rank after she lost her inferiority complex after forgetting get predecessor. Sumerians gained massive admiration and deference to her, she is exerting her influence over the akademiya and gets involved with a lot of the day to day issues.
Fontaine's political centre would be Navia. She has been shown to have her fingers on the pulse of Fontaine on the ground. She shows up already pushing through a plan of some sort during literally every major Fontaine event, investigation or altercation, from the trial to the missing women's case to the Melusine threat letter case, missing women's case, etc. She can organize riots even at the opera epiclese, she gets her people to just pull suspects out from hiding multiple times in the story, plus she owns the nation's transport network and she has a working relationship with the house of the hearth. She's seen as the people's champion (they are sustained on donations rather than organized crime).
I can make a strong case for Arlecchino too though but I don't think the HOH is as extensive or embedded in the populace as the Spina.
Natlan's political centre is Mavuika she's low key kind of a Mary Sue. She united the tribes 500 years ago, is the strongest. In the modern day she is still respected by the entire nation as miss perfect and people don't even blink when she asks them to fight.
Nod Krai's political centre is Nefer. She is similar to Navia except she's said to be very ruthless at leveraging her information. She runs the northern information Network too.
Although for Nod Krai, no one person is powerful everywhere unlike the other nations. Nefer isn't powerful in the research center or Hiisii Island where Sandrone and Lauma are in control.
For example, Mondstadt has the church as political power and KoF as defensive power acting together. We don't know the head of the church and what they do for real, so for now the diplomatic power in Mondstadt is Varka. Diluc controls the money but he does not have much influence himself on the governing of the nation. Archon is AFK.
Liyue is the Qixing. The Tianquan is the face of them, so yeah, lady Tianquan is the most influential person, not talking about monetary power. Archon is dead.
Inazuma has a head in the Shogun but the Shogun is merely the face. No one comes to the shogun from the outside, so it's the tri commission. Tenryou and Yashiro are the ones that deal with foreigners, one on diplomacy and other on trading, so hard to say. Archon is out of reach, Miko leads the nation behind the curtains.
Sumeru is basically controlled by the Akademya, and the grand sage has a lot of power, but now Nahida is back. The archon and Akademya controls affairs inside, the eremites work as individual parts, we have Aaru village as the face of the desert and Lord Sangehma Bay as the most influential trader.
Fontaine is ruled by Palais Marmonia, and the ultimate voice is the Iudex. Archon position got transfered to the Iudex.
Natlan is a separate state of many tribes which all recognize the archon as the ultimate authority. Archon is alive and punching.
Nod Krai has many factions, and currently they made a council joining all of them. We know Curatorium of Secrets and Voinich Guild are the most influential ones, hard to say which one has more political power. Nefer deals with information and Voinich Guild deals with all other tasks. Moon Goddess just returned, but has no political power.
Sneznaya replies to the tsaritsa, but it seens Pulcinella is the one with more political power around, while Pantalooney has the monetary power. Seens both of them control Sneznaya.
Liyue - The Qixing are collectively the governing body in Liyue. This includes Ningguang and Keqing (who are equal in political power; I see a lot of people who misinterpret Ningguang as the de facto leader). Uncle Tian is the only other Qixing member we’ve met.
Inazuma - Excluding Raiden who is the active ruler, it’s probably Yae Miko. The Tri-Commission are the governing body in Inazuma, but the Narukami Shrine is an independent entity and Yae Miko is the leader of it, and has political leverage equal to all three of the Commissions combined.
Sumeru - Excluding Nahida who is the active ruler, I’d say it is the 6 sages of the Akademiya. A current member being Naphis (Tighnari’s mentor). The Grand Sage would then technically be the highest political member, though who currently has this position after Azar was deposed is unknown (Alhaitham temporarily held the position but resigned to return to his scribe position).
Fontaine - Neuvillette. There really isn’t anyone else that comes close. He is basically the government lol. You could technically say Wriothesley, but the Fortress of Meropide is an independent entity that technically is not part of Fontaine’s political ruling body (it is related though and works together with the law enforcement).
Natlan - Like Fontaine, there isn’t much to go off of. It’s just Mavuika and the 6 tribe leaders. Citlali also has some say in things because of her just being around for a long time. The 6 heroes also have some influence.
Nod Krai - technically lacks a governing body. After the events of the AQ, Nod Krai has formed a council, which I assume hold equal powers in “governing” Nod Krai. So if you really wanted to name people, some of those members would be >!Nefer, Lauma, Illuga, and hilariously Aino!<.
Ineffa twist his balls
>!i wonder if aino even realized this or did she just thought she was attending someone's speech before going to dreamland!<
Liyue is Ningguang
Inazuma (excluding Archont) Kujo Sara, Yae Miko
Sumeru Alhaitham Cyno and Candance
Fontaine(excluding Neuvilette) Navia, Wriotsley, Clorinde
Natlan is Iansan Chasca
Nod Krai is Nefer Lauma and Illuga