The 10th Harbinger's Constellation Theory
I started down a rabbit hole the other day about the 10th Harbinger and why we have so little information regarding them. And I think I've discovered their constellation due to Honkai Star Rail (HSR).
Please note this theory will involve spoilers from HSR patch 3.0-3.7, please beware of traveling further.
In Amphoreus, we were given a wheel with 12 symbols representing the coreflames as well as the 12 titans with an infinity symbol in the center.
[\\"As I've Written\\" --\> \\"Flame-Chaser's Path\\" . The 12 Coreflames and the symbol of Amphoreus at the center](https://preview.redd.it/fabrqmpj90fg1.png?width=1166&format=png&auto=webp&s=85a38359425b1cc6017f4afd14b004f82abe45ae)
Initially we were left to assume the infinity symbol represented the shape of Amphoreus. However, as revealed later in the Amphoreus story, this infinity symbol was actually the symbol for the 13th Titan or the Demiurge aka Cyrene.
The biggest take away from this concept is that the 13th Titan and their Symbol were hidden in plain sight. Sure there was early evidence that a 13th titan existed by a few npcs and written notes, but it was written off as the ramblings of "mad people." We as an audience were left to decide if we believe this notion.
This concept though, the infinity symbol surround by several other symbols got me thinking about the Fatui and our 10th Harbinger. Thanks to Hoyo, we now have confirmation of which harbinger has which constellation. All 12 images around the wheel, sub for the Fatui Insignia have been claimed. This is shown in the image below.
[The Harbingers and their Constellations \(taken from https:\/\/genshinfans.com\/blogs\/news\/genshin-fatui-harbingers-symbols\)](https://preview.redd.it/pjt0m88hb0fg1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=399d6fa140d082a5b3f17bcbb4f3c64afa6cbd14)
So this leaves one option remaining for the 10th.
[The Symbol of the Fatui](https://preview.redd.it/ame1dtpzb0fg1.jpg?width=286&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9a83f88fa31e4991298f6cb66e4dda391d9c8aa)
It is not unreasonable to assume that the symbol of the Fatui could also be the 10th Harbinger's constellation. However, Amphoreus hiding the infinity symbol in the the center has led me to believe this is a precedent. Lets look at the center of the Fatui Harbinger Wheel.
[Center of the Fatui Harbinger Wheel.](https://preview.redd.it/abqpsexdc0fg1.jpg?width=367&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5aee51aa3d5ab45464673236a48dc175c04f6a37)
Because of Amphoreus, I do not believe it to be unreasonable to suggest that the 10th Harbingers constellation is this Star. (If not it might be the Tsaritsa's Constellation, but that is not what this theory is concerning). When you look at this star, its has a strong resemblance to the traveler's star imagery. Specifically, this star looks like the back of the Travelers original outfits. In addition, the center star of the main star looks vaguely like a primogem as well as the symbol of the Fatui. Additional observations that Im unsure how to connect to the theory at this time are:
* Looks like an 8-pointed star, like the Khaenri'ah star
* Looks like an 8-petal flower
* Looks vaguely like the symbol for Cryo
[Star symbols on the back of the coat](https://preview.redd.it/4tvm0zmnc1fg1.jpg?width=730&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=965d7194b971c9eb3c1d0f6b9263ab84779a8747)
[Star symbols on the back of the coat](https://preview.redd.it/addl0onoc1fg1.jpg?width=544&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=413073929c59dabd14e88b1b85749d635d9ea68d)
Also, the 4 shooting star shapes around the central star are similar to the shooting stars in the traveler's constellation.
[Viatrix - Lumine's Constellation](https://preview.redd.it/m6f59e8nd1fg1.jpg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f750aa5491d8d346107d75e960b439d559ef4a6)
[Viator - Aether's Constellation](https://preview.redd.it/tjm5kekhd1fg1.jpg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d97309def1ba8b011763bab61f9ed70c64986c2)
While this may be a stretch, I believe the Star is a symbol often used for Descenders in general. Many TCs have already suggested this, but I believe the 3rd Descender is/will be the 10th Harbinger.
Additionally, we have some information about the third descender, that their body was divided into 7 parts which were used to create the gnoses. And its highly likely Hymns of the Far North is talking about the 3rd descender. I would suggest either reading the story or looking at this analysis [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Lore/comments/1nnfaqk/pakkaisukko_the_abyss_pohjola_and_the_third/).
And it would make sense since the 10th slot has been vacant for some time if the 3rd descender has been dead/separated this whole time. I also want to propose the the title of the 10th Harbinger. We have a few to select from.
[From: https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Commedia\_dell'arte](https://preview.redd.it/buhkoe4oe0fg1.png?width=914&format=png&auto=webp&s=27c7793278540f7c56c8bc57fb06768ae7d12845)
I am using this specific list as all 11 of our named harbingers appear in this list. The unused titles from this list are: Gianduja, Brighella, the innamorati, and Pedrolino. I believe our 10th Harbinger is the Innamorati (Or Innamoratus/Innamorata for the singular) based on Hymn of the Farm North. The Innamorati are the lovers in the commedia dell'arte with many of the events revolving around them as they strive to join in union. In the Hymn, the 3rd descender is promised the Tsaritsa's hand in marriage, mirroring the Innamorati, but is killed before this union can take place.
This is further enforced by "Teyvat Chapter Storyline Preview: Travail"
In the teaser, each Archon's Divine Ideal is introduced but not always clearly and for 6 of the 7 we have this confirmed
* What does **freedom** really mean, when demanded of you by a god?
* The God of **Contracts**, senselessly slaughtered as his people watched on in horror.
* But what do mortals see of the **eternity** chased after by their god?
* The God of **Wisdom's** enemy is wisdom itself, and the oasis of knowledge is a mirage in the desert of ignorance
* The God of **Justice** lives for the spectacle of the courtroom, seeking to judge all other gods.
* When the God of **War** shares this secret with the Traveler, it is because she has her reasons.
* She is a god with no **love** left for her people, nor do they have any left for her.
From the video, it is highly likely for the Tsaritsa to be the Archon of Love. With this love connection, her connection to the Innamorati strengthens.
And finally an unfounded theory: The Fatui symbol looks VERY vaguely like a snowflake if you look at it wrong enough, so it could perhaps be related to the Tsaritsa's constellation.
TL;DR: The center of the Fatui Wheel is also a constellation for the 10th Harbinger who will be the 3rd Descender with a title related to the Innamorati.
Please note this theory will involve spoilers from HSR patch 3.0-3.7, please beware of traveling further.
In Amphoreus, we were given a wheel with 12 symbols representing the coreflames as well as the 12 titans with an infinity symbol in the center.
[\\"As I've Written\\" --\> \\"Flame-Chaser's Path\\" . The 12 Coreflames and the symbol of Amphoreus at the center](https://preview.redd.it/fabrqmpj90fg1.png?width=1166&format=png&auto=webp&s=85a38359425b1cc6017f4afd14b004f82abe45ae)
Initially we were left to assume the infinity symbol represented the shape of Amphoreus. However, as revealed later in the Amphoreus story, this infinity symbol was actually the symbol for the 13th Titan or the Demiurge aka Cyrene.
The biggest take away from this concept is that the 13th Titan and their Symbol were hidden in plain sight. Sure there was early evidence that a 13th titan existed by a few npcs and written notes, but it was written off as the ramblings of "mad people." We as an audience were left to decide if we believe this notion.
This concept though, the infinity symbol surround by several other symbols got me thinking about the Fatui and our 10th Harbinger. Thanks to Hoyo, we now have confirmation of which harbinger has which constellation. All 12 images around the wheel, sub for the Fatui Insignia have been claimed. This is shown in the image below.
[The Harbingers and their Constellations \(taken from https:\/\/genshinfans.com\/blogs\/news\/genshin-fatui-harbingers-symbols\)](https://preview.redd.it/pjt0m88hb0fg1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=399d6fa140d082a5b3f17bcbb4f3c64afa6cbd14)
So this leaves one option remaining for the 10th.
[The Symbol of the Fatui](https://preview.redd.it/ame1dtpzb0fg1.jpg?width=286&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9a83f88fa31e4991298f6cb66e4dda391d9c8aa)
It is not unreasonable to assume that the symbol of the Fatui could also be the 10th Harbinger's constellation. However, Amphoreus hiding the infinity symbol in the the center has led me to believe this is a precedent. Lets look at the center of the Fatui Harbinger Wheel.
[Center of the Fatui Harbinger Wheel.](https://preview.redd.it/abqpsexdc0fg1.jpg?width=367&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5aee51aa3d5ab45464673236a48dc175c04f6a37)
Because of Amphoreus, I do not believe it to be unreasonable to suggest that the 10th Harbingers constellation is this Star. (If not it might be the Tsaritsa's Constellation, but that is not what this theory is concerning). When you look at this star, its has a strong resemblance to the traveler's star imagery. Specifically, this star looks like the back of the Travelers original outfits. In addition, the center star of the main star looks vaguely like a primogem as well as the symbol of the Fatui. Additional observations that Im unsure how to connect to the theory at this time are:
* Looks like an 8-pointed star, like the Khaenri'ah star
* Looks like an 8-petal flower
* Looks vaguely like the symbol for Cryo
[Star symbols on the back of the coat](https://preview.redd.it/4tvm0zmnc1fg1.jpg?width=730&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=965d7194b971c9eb3c1d0f6b9263ab84779a8747)
[Star symbols on the back of the coat](https://preview.redd.it/addl0onoc1fg1.jpg?width=544&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=413073929c59dabd14e88b1b85749d635d9ea68d)
Also, the 4 shooting star shapes around the central star are similar to the shooting stars in the traveler's constellation.
[Viatrix - Lumine's Constellation](https://preview.redd.it/m6f59e8nd1fg1.jpg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f750aa5491d8d346107d75e960b439d559ef4a6)
[Viator - Aether's Constellation](https://preview.redd.it/tjm5kekhd1fg1.jpg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d97309def1ba8b011763bab61f9ed70c64986c2)
While this may be a stretch, I believe the Star is a symbol often used for Descenders in general. Many TCs have already suggested this, but I believe the 3rd Descender is/will be the 10th Harbinger.
Additionally, we have some information about the third descender, that their body was divided into 7 parts which were used to create the gnoses. And its highly likely Hymns of the Far North is talking about the 3rd descender. I would suggest either reading the story or looking at this analysis [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Lore/comments/1nnfaqk/pakkaisukko_the_abyss_pohjola_and_the_third/).
And it would make sense since the 10th slot has been vacant for some time if the 3rd descender has been dead/separated this whole time. I also want to propose the the title of the 10th Harbinger. We have a few to select from.
[From: https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Commedia\_dell'arte](https://preview.redd.it/buhkoe4oe0fg1.png?width=914&format=png&auto=webp&s=27c7793278540f7c56c8bc57fb06768ae7d12845)
I am using this specific list as all 11 of our named harbingers appear in this list. The unused titles from this list are: Gianduja, Brighella, the innamorati, and Pedrolino. I believe our 10th Harbinger is the Innamorati (Or Innamoratus/Innamorata for the singular) based on Hymn of the Farm North. The Innamorati are the lovers in the commedia dell'arte with many of the events revolving around them as they strive to join in union. In the Hymn, the 3rd descender is promised the Tsaritsa's hand in marriage, mirroring the Innamorati, but is killed before this union can take place.
This is further enforced by "Teyvat Chapter Storyline Preview: Travail"
In the teaser, each Archon's Divine Ideal is introduced but not always clearly and for 6 of the 7 we have this confirmed
* What does **freedom** really mean, when demanded of you by a god?
* The God of **Contracts**, senselessly slaughtered as his people watched on in horror.
* But what do mortals see of the **eternity** chased after by their god?
* The God of **Wisdom's** enemy is wisdom itself, and the oasis of knowledge is a mirage in the desert of ignorance
* The God of **Justice** lives for the spectacle of the courtroom, seeking to judge all other gods.
* When the God of **War** shares this secret with the Traveler, it is because she has her reasons.
* She is a god with no **love** left for her people, nor do they have any left for her.
From the video, it is highly likely for the Tsaritsa to be the Archon of Love. With this love connection, her connection to the Innamorati strengthens.
And finally an unfounded theory: The Fatui symbol looks VERY vaguely like a snowflake if you look at it wrong enough, so it could perhaps be related to the Tsaritsa's constellation.
TL;DR: The center of the Fatui Wheel is also a constellation for the 10th Harbinger who will be the 3rd Descender with a title related to the Innamorati.
Commentaires
Pedrolino is Pierro
So the timeline is that the Tsaritsa was alive 2000 years ago but wasn't an archon (like Ganyu, Xiao, Yae Miko, etc). Then 500 years ago she becomes archon, founds the Fatui, and starts trying to resurrect her lover by assembling the pieces of his body.
I like the theory but it is of course impossible because the Tsaritsa needs to be playable which means she needs to be a 2000 year old virgin. If we ever meet Alice's husband or even have his existence as a real person (and Klee not being a Homonculus or similar like Rhinedottir's "son" Albedo) confirmed, I'll retract this comment.
Bonus points if she's been talking to him via the Cryo Gnosis all this time or something.