Best weapon and artifact combination for ineffa
Hello guys...
I got Ineffa on present banner and I'm building her, I also have Columbina and nefer, I'm using Ineffa on lunar-charged with Ineffa/Bina/Fischl/Sucrose or with Nefer/Nahida/Bina/Ineffa
I presently have my Ineffa with R3 Prospector's Shovel(lvl 70 I'll level it up) with 4pc Guilded dreams, but I also have R5 Missive spear(lvl 20, if needed I'll level it up to 90) from event
and I'm thinking of putting Ineffa on 4pc Aubade of morningstar
1.so I'm wondering is Prospector's Shovel gonna be good with AoMM or is it gonna give diminished returns because both weapon(R3- 36% and R5- 48%) and artifact set (20%+40%) give lunar-charged dmg bonus so is missive spear(atk% 24 & 96 EM) gonna be upgrade on Prospector's Shovel
2.does passive of Missive spear auto triggers on off-field reactions also or is it gonna gives buffs only for 10 ses in rotation, it doesn't say any cool down on buff or on/off-field requirement on weapon description.
3.is AoMM better than Guilded dreams if yes then how much of an upgrade it is?
thank you guys in advance...
I got Ineffa on present banner and I'm building her, I also have Columbina and nefer, I'm using Ineffa on lunar-charged with Ineffa/Bina/Fischl/Sucrose or with Nefer/Nahida/Bina/Ineffa
I presently have my Ineffa with R3 Prospector's Shovel(lvl 70 I'll level it up) with 4pc Guilded dreams, but I also have R5 Missive spear(lvl 20, if needed I'll level it up to 90) from event
and I'm thinking of putting Ineffa on 4pc Aubade of morningstar
1.so I'm wondering is Prospector's Shovel gonna be good with AoMM or is it gonna give diminished returns because both weapon(R3- 36% and R5- 48%) and artifact set (20%+40%) give lunar-charged dmg bonus so is missive spear(atk% 24 & 96 EM) gonna be upgrade on Prospector's Shovel
2.does passive of Missive spear auto triggers on off-field reactions also or is it gonna gives buffs only for 10 ses in rotation, it doesn't say any cool down on buff or on/off-field requirement on weapon description.
3.is AoMM better than Guilded dreams if yes then how much of an upgrade it is?
thank you guys in advance...
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Missive is competitive but it all comes down to build quality.
Crit stats are the most important thing over anything else because EM, LB gets saturated in primarily LC teams. Very quick to note with the secondary contributor whose just as important imho. Kokomi taser works but because of Kokomis kit she does tank Ineffas output... DPS Barbara on the otherhand very pog :)
Due to Binas asecension passive gravity crit their damage will be more backloaded due to ripple effect so in test dummies doing longer times its better.
Never cared for anything else than straight damage because shes tuned to the point where she does MDPS numbers from off field lol. So damage it is. Sorry keqing after swapping her out and letting Ineffa be on field equaled more dps.
Always best is to test rather than looking at calced numbers.
If on nefer teams go gilded (youll be doing mostly hyperblm procs). Also Nahihi applies too much dendro so i dont like her at all in that setup.
With Bina Suc flex go Aubade though Night Sky is very viable with C6 Sara or C6 Benny... because shes primarily an Atk Scaler. So i go unga bunga style with Prime Ordial and she really likes to get let of the loose the more pepega the team is the better for me way more enjoyable too btw.
Thanks for listening to my Ted Talk.
Is missive spear still better than shovel?
And what would be best desirable crit rate and crit dmg on her
Level 90 getting 2k atk should be easy here.
Anything north of 70 and 150 cr/cd is great
Crit asc equals 24, 46 over 5 is 9 and change
Crit damage circlet 61.1 plus 50 111.1
48.9 over 4 12 and change
Thats like just over 30 CV average for her baseline. Very achieveable goals
EM gets saturated, Atk does not since teams dont have atk buffers that your playing her in and shes primarily an Atk scaler she loves atk lol. Prospectors has atk% so you should get well over 2k anyway.
My Ineffa with Sacfricers Staff atm is on 83/181 2.4 atk and she hits like a demon, 60k LC with Suc and Aino all day.
I also have sacrificer's staff at R3 is it better than shovel if I get good artifacts with reasonable atk% sub stats
.1. There isn't really diminishing returns for Lunar Charge damage bonus because you don't have that many sources of it. Traditional stats have plenty of ways to be buffed, attack mainly but EM and res shred too. Keep in mind Ineffa is "supposed" to fit in a team with Flins, who buffs LC by another 14%, her C1 and signature both give an extra 50% each, Columbina adds another 7% with her passive and her ult gives around 50%, so clearly these stats are intended to be stacked a lot, and the craftable is not going to be wasted. It's all the more reason to use it over another weapon, you are missing on so much lunar damage in your current team, you need what the weapon can give.
.2. Generally, assume that effects only trigger when the character is active unless the item specifically mentions otherwise.
.3. This and the previous point kinda loop back into point 1 about diminishing returns. While Lunar% is intended to be stacked as much as possible, Attack% and especially EM have very diminishing returns, unless you're trying to make a hyperbloom team you won't benefit from having 1000 EM instead of 200 EM all that much for most reactions. Keep in mind Ineffa's burst triggers a passive that already boosts everyone's EM, and Sucrose also gives a lot (and *she* should be built for EM). You're spending too much equipment budget on pushing that stat even more for not much in return. You don't need an EM/ATK weapon *and* an EM/ATK artefact knowing you already get EM from yourself, your teammates, and a ton of ATK from your artefacts' stats. What you are lacking here is Lunar reaction damage, which Aubade provides in great amounts specifically for the playstyle Ineffa uses: off field damage.
Think of it this way. With artefact stats and weapon stats combined, you're going to have what, 200% ATK bonus already, for EM between artefact substats, your kit and other buffs around you, you'll probably sit at 200+ in combat. Meanwhile, your combined Lunar Damage bonus by default is going to be 14% from your passive, 7% from Columbina's, 48% from the weapon, 40% assuming a crowned Columbina, with Serenade and Aubade you're still not breaking the 200% combined. That looks like a pretty balanced build overall. If you go all in on ATK/EM, you're going to be closer to 300% ATK, 350+ EM, and barely 150% Lunar%, there is a clear imbalance and you will start seeing diminishing returns in your first two stats while the third one still has wiggle room.