Artifact Stat Rolls Getting Increasingly Worse

Hoyo has released several ways to "get what you need" on artifacts, making it "easier to farm" your sets... all the while, I am 100% certain they make the sets more and more difficult to farm; this most recent set being demonstrably the worst by far.

I have been playing since Inazuma and I NEVER remember sets being this egregiously bad to farm. I have dropped tons and tons of resin into farming the new set through stygian and have over 500 pieces for BOTH of the new sets... and literally not one single piece is usable. Many are 3 or 4 base stat rolls (flat/% atk, def, or hp) and even if one actually has a useful stat, rolls have been dumping into the base stats instead of the useful one. Even my crafted pieces have rolled complete trash substats.

I can't help but feel this have become a critically untenable situation and Hoyo has completely ruined their roll algorithms. It feels like they're not even trying to be bashful about it at this point. I don't know if others have been experiencing this, but it feels like a gradually worse problem every new artifact set. I used to be able to pull some mid level rolls, but in this case, they're all sewage level garbage, and with this many farmed, I should at least ONE mid level piece.

Curious to hear others thoughts and if they're noticed this issue as well. Thanks in advance for your thoughtful insights.

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-Naver-2026-01-23 13:56

I've always had the feeling that after a hiatus I get way better rolls, as if daily engagement with the game lowers your chance for good rolls.

WhooooCares2026-01-23 13:57

It sounds like you don’t have the patience for artifact farming. If you went through 500 and didn’t get one, it sounds like you have unrealistic standards.

Safe-Operation17072026-01-23 14:20

Considering I have 8 characters within the top 5% or better on Akasha (and probaly 15 in top 15%, I beg to differ. 500 of each artifact set (1000 total) is way more than enough to justify at least one viable piece from. I have played MMOs and gachas for a good chunk of my life and never utilize pay to win, so my patience isn't the problem. Statistical improvability may be, but there again, I am noting, albeit anecdotal, trending increased difficulty obtaining viable artifacts.

WhooooCares2026-01-23 14:29

[And I have 14 characters with a Top 1% build. ](https://akasha.cv/profile/653872249)I'm going to have to assume your standards are too high like looking for double crit on every piece. I see a lot of Genshin players say that they got nothing usable, while they considering non-double crit pieces trash. I've never spent more than 5 resin at one time for artifacts, I have spent 5+ months in a domain. Artifacts can't be rushed.

Safe-Operation17072026-01-23 15:12

I too have spent well over 5 months farming a domain repeatedly. Trying to flex with your clear whale account isn't impressive and really just indicative of the entire nature of your responses dripping with sanctimonious shrill. I am not claiming artifacts can be rushed, I am saying the RNG is busted. Generating longevity due to poor algorithms isn't good gameplay value. I know someone who just yeets money at their screen to solve their problems doesn't understand that, but it is rich seeing you write that while paying to win. 👍🏻

WhooooCares2026-01-23 15:16

Money doesn't have a single thing to do with artifacts. You tried to flex talking about your Top 5% accounts. This is typical of Genshin Reddit, "I*'m having issues with this thing*". Someone who's actually done it gives advice, "*I am doing things right, life is unfair!*". Do what you do. Pride gets in the way of progress.

Safe-Operation17072026-01-23 15:22

"You're not patient" is advice? You literally offered no advice. You didn't pose and poignant response about how to assess artifact usefulness, how to eek rolls to gauge the piece if it has mid substats, or even how to best spend resin (all of which are things I have developed my own strategies around). Again, your pomp is palpable.

You offered nothing except to be critical, cast judgement, and attempt to assert your position/status. You're a silly little person, so as your username implies, to your opinion and how you've presented yourself here, "Whoooocares". Enjoy
Edit: grammar

WhooooCares2026-01-23 15:53

>I'm going to have to assume your standards are too high like looking for double crit on every piece. I see a lot of Genshin players say that they got nothing usable, while they considering non-double crit pieces trash.

I had to assume because you didn't give your standards, you never clarified. All you did was vent.

Safe-Operation17072026-01-23 16:16

You offered no advice or actionable suggestions. "Here's what I look for" would have been an acceptable follow on, but you just felt like trying to be offensive. For your consideration, when 95% of the artifacts I have farmed look like - Flat HP, Flat def, flat Atk, ER%... its not really worth my consideration, but maybe you'd disagree. Of course, you DON'T have to assume my standard is too high, because I stated in my post that nearly every piece I have acquired has 3 or 4 base stat rolls. I'll just assume you were too impatient to read the entirety of the post.

Flaky-Significance692026-01-23 15:35

What does whaling have to do with this?

Safe-Operation17072026-01-23 16:00

So we're just going to pretend someone whaling means they're not also purchasing the resin pack, get more mora/mats from the shop/BP, meaning they can solely focus their resin on artifact farming, and likely utilizing primos for resin when needed? Genshin may have RNG barriers, but people can overcome a lot of that by dumping more money into the game.

Regardless, it is relevant because they presented their Akasha as a premis for invalidating my experience rather than offering any counterpoint or advice. It's ironic because the comment of being patient is by and large counter intuitive to whaling, because you are by nature being too impatient to farm the wishes to dump into getting a character to C6, jumping that timeline. Patience clearly isn't the virtue on display, but sanctimony certainly is.

If you wanna whale, fine, whale. But don't come in high and mighty thinking your wasteful spending garners clout. Then again, that's typically the reason people do this, not because they love the game, but because they think doing so is a flex. It isn't, but definitely funny to proclaim you're "doing something right in life" while doing so. 👍🏻
Edit: grammar

Flaky-Significance692026-01-23 17:11

Hm that’s true… I’ve never bought any of that so while I knew BP gives some resources I didn’t know how much or realize that it may affect builds. I only thought about constellations when thinking about whaling.

Safe-Operation17072026-01-23 17:48

Exactly. This person out here thinking they're high and mighty when really they're just a virtual Chad.

WhooooCares2026-01-23 17:37

I don't spend $10 a day resin refreshing and I actively advise AGAINST using resin to farm artifacts. You tell yourself that to feel better:

[https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact/comments/1nkyi21/daily\_questions\_megathread\_september\_19\_2025/nf7g1l2/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/1nkyi21/daily_questions_megathread_september_19_2025/nf7g1l2/)

It takes time and knowledge of what you're doing. I've always said that, you're just too angry to receive it.

[https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact/comments/1gcu44d/spent\_over\_5k\_resin\_and\_didnt\_get\_a\_single\_crit/ltwq4qw/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/1gcu44d/spent_over_5k_resin_and_didnt_get_a_single_crit/ltwq4qw/)

You're making conspiracy theories about the algorithm with no proof because you can't get what you want and go on like everyone is getting bad artifacts. Why does that sound reasonable to you? You're throwing a tantrum.

ceos_ploi2026-01-23 14:04

i've been farming Emblem of Severed Fate for months and months since starting in 3.3 and never got anything that's beyond average. Only recently my yelan got a good sands.

My friend started to farm the new artifact domain with me and he got a 4 base stat feather, flower and sands with double crit the very first day.

It do be like that sometimes.

Sharp_Exercise_98762026-01-23 14:08

I think this is just perception bias, partly due to the some characters nowadays using less substats (like Nefer only wanting EM and Crit and nothing else.) On top of that EM mainstat has always been the rarest to get, so if you play Lauma/Nefer it can be annoyingly hard to gear them. Rng just rngs sometime.

I tried putting my 700 artifacts from two new sets to compare, and the overall distribution I got seems about the same as rates shown on wiki. Obviously, this is still rather small sample size for meaningful comparison.

Safe-Operation17072026-01-23 14:23

Possibly. I am willing to grant this is my unfortunate lived reality with it, but it may not be the larger experienced norm, hence the post. I don't recall getting quite so many absolutely atrocious pieces compared to "I could make that work till I get something better" pieces. I am talking straight up dog water, unusable pieces. 🫠😭

Big_Map57952026-01-23 14:10

Nah. I spend 80 fragile resin farming for Varka. My Varka artifacts are kinda mid still, which is statistically unlikely, but my Ineffa artifact rolls have been godlike. I feel like I could build 3 strong Ineffas. I sucks that it ended up that way, but godlike artifacts are godlike artifacts. I just wish they were on the other artifact set.

Ke5_Jun2026-01-23 14:52

Confirmation bias. I have gotten some truly crazy good rolls off of random domain drops in the last year, and even Abyss artifact troves. Meanwhile my crafting and rerolling results have often been as worse as they can possibly be given their guarantees.

Safe-Operation17072026-01-23 15:15

All the same... getting good artifacts isn't really evidence of this not being true. I am interested what aggregate data from the last year says about over artifact stat rolls... unfortunately, I feel like the only one who REALLY has that data is Hoyo, and they're not going to tell on themselves if they have chopped the RNG. I know people collect data from the game to try and estimate, but account for every stat and roll on a large scale isn't really possible for the greater population of the game.

Ke5_Jun2026-01-23 15:21

Did I forget to mention.

I have 6 accounts that all farm artifacts.

Yes that still isn’t really enough to form a concrete hypothesis, but my point is that you can’t really assume hoyo have purposely lowered the rates just cause your account has bad RNG lately.

So it’s still your own confirmation bias. If my anecdotal evidence and your anecdotal evidence differ, that means a conclusion cannot be reached simply by anecdotal evidence.

Safe-Operation17072026-01-23 15:30

Right. Agreed. I think we're saying the same thing, and I fully grant my limited data set is not enough to substantiate anything other than my feeling. That's why I posed the thread to see if others were experiencing this same luck. Happy to hear others are finding good pieces, just wish I could find some of that luck. :P

At any rate, happy farming and also... DAYUM! 6 accounts?! How do you find the time?!

Ke5_Jun2026-01-23 15:34

All those accounts were started and developed during covid. So atp it’s just cruising by and not really hard focusing on them.

The past 2 years have been significantly less time investment as Hoyo have introduced a ton of QoL. Encounter points are a godsend, and condensed resin allowing you to skip days can cut your play time down to like less than 5 mins per account.

Also once you start maintaining 2 accounts, each additional account is exponentially less work because you know exactly what to do when new content comes out, cutting down your playtime significantly.

Stygian for example allows me to consolidate all my farming to 20s per “domain run” and so all my resin is spent within 5 mins.

Safe-Operation17072026-01-23 15:44

Nice. Down to a science! Juggling that many would stress me tf out, but it sounds like you have a clear science for it.

Out if curiosity, is the purpose for RNG maxing and tram building variations?

Ke5_Jun2026-01-23 15:57

The original purpose of me starting so many accounts was twofold - one to create more variations of possible teams I could use (as each would have a different set of “mains”), and to farm materials like local specialties faster and not having to bother others in co-op.

The first reason has fallen apart a little bit, because after Natlan, endgame content has become more and more specific to modern units. So for example all accounts have gotten Columbina and Ineffa because they are way too valuable to not have from a meta standpoint.

But the “different mains” idea **sort of** lives on, as RNG variance in pulls has led some accounts to get lucky with vertical investment. For example, my 6th account randomly has a lot of anemo units, including a C1 Chasca. So that account is an “anemo main”. Another account has managed to get C1 of Skirk, Escoffier, and Neuvillette (crazy ik; I wish my main account has that kinda luck), so that account is a “freeze main”. A third account got a lucky C1 Yae Miko way back in 3.X (her rerun), so I’m planning on getting her C2 via the Temper Thyself event and turning that account into a “Lunar Charged” main.

Safe-Operation17072026-01-23 16:27

Gosh. I feel like you'd need spreadsheets to keep it all straight. Haha. But that is really cool how they've divulged into different focuses... with the exception of Nod Krai... the shilling is really unfortunate and this stygian would likely be impossible without Columbina or Ineffa on your account. The hydro need is so huge for this round.

Thanks for all the insights - I find the account juggling completely fascinating. Best of luck on all of your accounts!

Ke5_Jun2026-01-23 16:48

As a matter of fact I do use Spreadsheets lmao. It’s part of why a lot of my planning is now automated and I know what to do with each account a lot faster.

If any life skill was gained via Genshin, it’s the ability to use excel and google sheets. I taught myself a lot about excel trying to do stat calcs, keeping track of materials, and whatnot.

And thanks, have fun on your accounts too and don’t let bad RNG get you too down.

Forgot2Catfish2026-01-23 15:36

Your mileage may vary. Obviously you could pull a godrolled artifact any day or experience a severe drought in between decent ones. Some people dont mind settling on their artifacts. I personally just can't. I don't equip double flat roll artifacts or artifacts with less than 4 starting stats. I'm basically not pulling on any more units after this banner because I keep getting new units and they have no artifacts. I know it's my standards holding me back but the entire artifact experience is just completely disappointing to me. And equipping shoddy artifacts won't make me feel better about it.

Safe-Operation17072026-01-23 16:22

I completely agree on the artifact standard. For instance, these new sets are BIS for Ineffa and Durin (respectively), but I am not going to compromise atrocious rolls to be on the new set when I have decent to pretty good rolls on their current ones. Even the QOL upgrades to redo stats and make pieces feels pretty icky when the items are so limited and you're still able to end up with a completely cruddy piece. The number of pieces I've crafted that have been banished to the shadow realm because they couldn't hack it feels pretty disheartening. Lol

Forgot2Catfish2026-01-23 17:19

I have yet to craft a single 4 stat piece. So every single crafted pieces resources were completely wasted for me.

Safe-Operation17072026-01-23 17:49

😭😭 RIP our mats. Maybe some day we'll get lucky!

lostn2026-01-24 09:20

what you described is RNG and confirmation bias, not conspiracy. It hasn't got harder to farm. The stats are the same as before. They have not changed the roll algorythms.

You could make an argument that it's harder to farm when a generalist set is paired with a niche set, but that isn't the case here.