need electro dps/carry
my account is in dire need of an electro carry. the only one i have is raiden, who isn't really strong in today's meta, but i also have miko and fischl. i constantly have found myself struggling whenever the game requires me to use electro carries or have an electro-charged/lunar-charged team. i did pull for columbina but i'd prefer to use her in my nefer and lauma team.
i need a new electro dps BAD but i'm not sure who to go for. i have enough wishes to guarantee ineffa, but then columbina will be wanted in two teams and i'm not sure how long the lunar-charge shill will last. i don't really have the characters for varesa (both iansan and chev are at c0, no durin but i do have mavuika) or flins (ineffaless). i do have the necessary chars for clorinde ec but i'm not sure how good she is as a fit for my account longterm.
what should i do? should i pull for ineffa right now or wait for any other electro dps to rerun to secure an ec (and later overload if i get chev cons) team? or is it better to wait until a new electro unit gets released, whenever tht would be?
i need a new electro dps BAD but i'm not sure who to go for. i have enough wishes to guarantee ineffa, but then columbina will be wanted in two teams and i'm not sure how long the lunar-charge shill will last. i don't really have the characters for varesa (both iansan and chev are at c0, no durin but i do have mavuika) or flins (ineffaless). i do have the necessary chars for clorinde ec but i'm not sure how good she is as a fit for my account longterm.
what should i do? should i pull for ineffa right now or wait for any other electro dps to rerun to secure an ec (and later overload if i get chev cons) team? or is it better to wait until a new electro unit gets released, whenever tht would be?
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If you get her early, shoot for Bina as well.
**Flins** \- He is the strongest electro DPS in the game right now *BUT* must be run in a lunar charge team to achieve that potential. For a low spender, having both his awesome teammates Ineffa and Colombina in the current banner is \*rough\*. We at least get Aino for free. Supposedly he is going to get a rerun quite soon.
**Varesa** \- she is the strongest electro DPS in my account. Her strongest teams do ask for Iansan and Chevreuse at C6 for overload but her raw plunge attack damage alone is strong. Where she really shines are mobs weak to plunge, which the devs have put in the last few endgame content patches
**Clorinde** \- my personal favorite electro DPS to use but someone I don't recommend wishing on for meta. She is more versatile and mechanically easier to run than Flins or Varesa. She shines for me as a driver that doesn't need burst energy.
**Ineffa** \- The robot has easily brought the best value to my account *even before factoring lunar charge*. Her electro shield requires no energy and brings her own damage while protecting my Varesa, Clorinde and Nuevilette. With Aino, I already had a budget wheelchair comp that helped my Clorinde beat fearless level Onslaught. With Colombina, I'm running my lowest tier units (ex. Ningguang) for friendship teams. Reading your post, I'm not exactly sure if you do or do not have Flins, but Ineffa boosts him up too.
If I was in your situation and I had the wishes, *I'd go for Ineffa*. There is no other electro shield sub DPS that boosts a specific reaction that is currently meta yet still useful in other reactions. And this being her rerun, we now have no idea when Ineffa is coming back. You also have many units that can run alongside or be carried by Ineffa.
Speaking of Raiden, it bums me out that Ineffa's skill alone already outshines my C2 Raiden burst :-( . At least Ineffa and Colombina can carry her.
My Ineffa
[https://enka.network/u/Zanzibak/1XRZMq/10000116/4683248/](https://enka.network/u/Zanzibak/1XRZMq/10000116/4683248/)
do you think that ineffa is future-proof enough that even after lunar shill, she will see play? thats what i'm worried about most
Ineffa as an electro shield sub DPS already has value outside of lunar charge - for example, I run her in a Varesa overload team.
She is half of the lunar charge wheelchair of Ineffa+Aino or Ineffa+Colombina.
In my Lauma + Nefer teams (the lunar DPS I skipped Flinns for), I've tried Kokomi, Aino and Dhalia (w/ Jahoda) as the hydro units. But to be honest, Colombina applies the most hydro even just by herself in my lunar dendro teams - and that's before factoring all the buffs and personal damage she brings to lunar reactions. Therefore Ineffa + Aino serves as my other Ascendant gleam core if my Colombina is needed elsewhere.
In the near future, Varka is getting released who supposedly runs best in a 2 Anemo + 2 pyro/hydro/electro/cryo setup. Granted Durin pyro will likely be his best team, if I wanted a 2 electro team, Ineffa works. And with the rumored superconduct unit, Ineffa is another teammate possibility.
I used my Sethos to clear Fearless Shock Trooper with c6 Sethos/c6 Fischl/c0 Columbina/c0 Aino. He's pretty easy to gear too, with one of his best weapons being the the 3\* bow Slingshot and artifact sets that boost EM (Wanderer's Troupe is the best all rounder but he can use the Lunar DPS set too if you stick him with Columbina or Ineffa)
That said, give him a try in his trial first. He's got a unique mechanic that makes it so his most powerful charged shots consume energy. You can just stick to his burst > NA playstyle if you want to keep things easy but [he's got some interesting tech behind him](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35mGxk9k-lI).
I say this as a fellow Sethos enjoyer. Hoyo devs did Sethos dirty by releasing him the same time as Clorinde. Sethos has to burst to attempt to come close to the damage Clorinde's skill does. Raiden brings more to the table than Sethos does as well. I even gave Sethos the new Nod Krai lunar bow to give him more punch and solve his ER issues.
Remove the lunar charge enabler units and see the team required to clear the Fearless shock trooper. That's how attuned the encounter is to the new mechanics. My Skirk+Escoffier+Furina team came close but that's at least 3 five stars
My Sethos [https://enka.network/u/Zanzibak/1XRZMq/10000097/7305484/](https://enka.network/u/Zanzibak/1XRZMq/10000097/7305484/)
He works, and if OP already has him when they pulled for Columbina then they can just build him while they save up for Flins or someone else. He's already good enough for content that's not SO Dire even if he does't have the same 5\* scaling Chlorinde does. Raiden may have more functions than Sethos, but if she's at c0r1 (like mine) even Sethos feels stronger as a DPS. Fischl outshines her as off-field Electro especially considering all the shields we have now, and OP also has Miko so Raiden is more of a secondary option these days until they buff her or something.
I definitely don't disagree that Ineffa feels super OP right now as a shielder with strong sub-DPS that pairs well with Columbina, but there are some things to consider:
* Ineffa shines most while off-field unless she has cons. Sethos is meant to be on-fielded and also works as a better driver than Ineffa with his faster attack animations (even better with walk cancel tech).
* Ineffa's sub-DPS damage is only very good if Lunar Charge is usable, which can be a problem in IT. Sethos can use all Electro reactions without being heavily nerfed in some way.
I myself am not bothering to pull Ineffa because I don't like her and Hoyo is going to release more cracked combos in the future. OP will also be fine if they skip Ineffa for someone else they like better.
Btw the Nod Krai forgeable weapon is a downgrade to r5 Slingshot. There's a reason why r/SethosMains recommends CRIT bows over EM ones. It's easier to have other characters in the team that buff EM (e.g. Sucrose or through artifact sets like Instructor) or battery him, but there's very few characters that can buff his CRIT or CA dmg %; the free event bow Cloudforged can give him 330 EM just for firing 2 times and doesn't have team restrictions, but no one recommends it for him. Also, are you playing his CA style? Otherwise you don't need that much ER on him so you can try for better EM/CRIT than ER.
Edit: Before I got Columbina, my Sethos cleared Shocktrooper with Furina and Xilonen so Lunar Charged isn't a hard requirement. I just needed Furina for the crab this time around.
First, you are correct that the Slingshot hits harder than the Snarehook. I give up a few thousand DPS when I tested it on the Wonderland dummy. But I found it makes my burst centric rotations way smoother. I actually have too much ER right now since his build had the Slingshot in mind. But since Sethos is a for fun character I end up playing him on more random teamups where his lack of burst is noticeable - he is my Sumeru resource locator of choice. 3/4 of the time I forget that Sethos has his CA style and fumble when I try using it.
Now if OP skips Ineffa and goes in on Sethos, I'll be right there with you on trying to make him better. I 100% envy you made your Sethos bad a$$ enough to do Fearless level Onslaught. Hell I think Sethos is way better than 5\* Cyno! But since OP is considering Ineffa or other electro 5\* DPSes, I can't advocate building a 4\* DPS that was already powercrept on release. The amount of pulls and resources to get to a Fearless clear C6 Sethos can go toward those 5\* units currently or in upcoming banners.
For fun teams are a completely different thing if you're not using him for endgame. Sethos has a way easier time getting his energy back if he can do a reaction with his skill (probably needs to do this twice if he's the sole Electro) or catch particles from other teammates with Favonius. This is with Slingshot still and barely any extra ER. If you see some common hilichurls around, I highly recommend using a CA at them. They only cost 20 energy and if you can one shot them even with no reactions, he's fine on any team. If they live, you can get back some energy by using his skill on them. Win-win situation if you ask me.
But yeah, calling him 'powercrept on release' doesn't make sense to me. He's probably the 3rd strongest 4* DPS after Gaming and Hexerei Razor. There are plenty of showcases where he clears Abyss with 4* or less characters/weapons only teams. [Here's one of the more recent ones](https://youtu.be/S-BwoBcZexw).
Resource-wise, Sethos doesn't really need all his cons to be good enough either so no need to pull for them if OP's not looking to main him. Other materials like gemstones and talent books for other 5*s can always be farmed later, especially if OP hasen't decided who they want yet. Sethos' most used artifacts drop for free from bosses and are strongbox-able. I don't know how far OP will take him if they do decide to build him, but they're free to decide how much they want to put in.
Sethos ended up being my first 'real' Electro DPS despite others sitting in my account like Razor, Keqing, and Raiden despite being a 4*. He may or may not work for other people but I'm just happy if I can make someone consider him even a little bit.