I may be too incompetent for this game.

I joined the fun back in 2021 and honestly had a blast with the game. I simply couldn't put it down and couldn't wait to get back in the game after workdays. At some point I slowed down after Inazuma, took a break, and jumped back into it when Dendro finally became a thing. During the Chasm stuff, I just stopped playing altogether and never touched the game for 3 years or something.

I just started back in the game yesterday, got to the part of the Chasm where you have to fight Agnarr and Egill, and remembered why I took a step back from it:

**The game just got too goddamned difficult.**

Tried all of my strongest character combinations and simply could not defeat either of them. Elemental bursts were almost always interrupted or my energy depleted somehow. Both of them, at about 15% health, never lost anymore health; it just stops. Stamina depletion is, what stamina? And I can only heal so much before characters get full and there's a nice 5 minute cool down on revives. I just can't do it and don't think I have the mental fortitude to push through it. I'm a fairly casual gamer and don't play games for the challenge. I've enough stressors as it is and don't really need cherries on top. I don't have tons of money to pour into getting 5 star characters and weapons, and min/maxing artifacts to me is brain melting activity.

Anyway, that's my rant. Most likely won't progress further, so I'll just have fun doing other things like Serenitea Pot and Miliastra Wonderland stuff. :)

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Justlnfamous2026-01-26 20:40

Is someone holding you at gunpoint to beat these bosses now?

You could just walk away and do anything else

InkJuse2026-01-26 20:42

Did you read all of my post?

Justlnfamous2026-01-26 20:48

Yeah I did, your being a bit ridiculous, there are soo many other things you can do in this game, go do another quest, go spend your resin, level up, come back later when your stronger or have more characters.
You probably just rushed there with underdeveloped characters, its okay to say I can't do this now and move on. You dont have to banish yourself to the shadowlands (team pot and wonderland).

InkJuse2026-01-26 22:08

I know there's other things to do in the game. I'm just venting, really. Before Dendro, the only other thing that I would do was either focus on serenitea pot or do dungeons/bosses. Since I was having a hard time with dungeons/bosses, I focused on the pot.

The problem with that is, you can only get better equipment by doing the dungeons/bosses, and you have to be a certain level for certain equipment/drops. This turns into a frustrating grind for gear.

I'm simply a casual gamer not trying to stress. As the title states, I don't think I'm competent enough for pushing all the buttons and doing all the maneuvers to wiggle my way to underprepared victories.

This means, all the other things left for me to do, **that I care for**, are Serenitea Pot and Miliastra Wonderland.

I don't care about the other stuff.

Quite literally, I do what I want.

EnGardevoir2026-01-26 20:43

Sorry to hear you are struggling with this. If you want to clear, the issue may be that you did an ascension quest to raise the level of your world (which makes enemies stronger), but maybe haven't raised the levels and gear of your party to help you conquer the difference in strength? Can you turn your world level down if it is too much of a struggle? Or level up some of your party to make them stronger?

InkJuse2026-01-26 20:56

I thought about that too, but, if I recall correctly, during Inazuma quests, I bumped down the world level because it was way too difficult. Currently my Adventure Rank is at 54, world level is at 7, 3 characters at level 90, and 3 at 80.

Bennett, Ganyu and Razor are 90 with Bennett being maybe closest to decent in terms of weapon, artifacts and constellation. The others, I did the best I could with what I had.

Maybe I'll try reducing the world rank. It just irks me that because of that, drops won't be worth much.

EnGardevoir2026-01-26 21:06

Understandable. One other piece of advice that might be helpful would be to build a second healer, preferably someone that can heal the whole party at once without having to charge up their ultimate. Barbara is the f2p option, but there's TONS of other good healers in the game now. These units usually get trashed on by the community because they're not meta, which means they don't contribute a lot of damage to clear content that has a time limit, but for overworld and for clearing content in quests, where there isn't a strict time limit, they can be so so helpful for keeping the party alive. Benny is a good healer, but his heal is confined to a circle and to the character on the field and requires getting the correct type of gear (gear with a stat called "energy recharge", and LOTS of it), so he can cast his ultimate. Barbara is much easier: her heal is on her skill in addition to her ultimate, and if you do attacks with her while the ring is active, she doesn't just heal herself she heals the whole party, which is a lot less stressful for overworld. Of course as I said there are TONS of good healers in the game besides her but she's f2p and is the one most likely to already be on your account so that's why I mention her. Good luck with it!

notthatjaded2026-01-26 21:18

They have Kokomi so I'd say they have a pretty good healer in addition to Bennett. (They didn't mention her in their response to you but they mentioned her in a response to me. :) )

EnGardevoir2026-01-26 21:25

Ah makes sense. She'd be an excellent option yeah, though she does need to be at least partially built (level 70 or level 80 minimum with some talent levels in her skill. plus some levelled artifacts). I'm just thinking, the chasm was filled with mobs that wanted heals, and my memory of that AR level was that if you were willing to take the time to whack at mobs you could clear almost anything so long as you didn't die. Healers help so so much in the "don't die" department. XD Shielders as well.

allmistake22026-01-26 21:07

AR 54 is a really awkward spot if I recall. You're starting to get high level characters but dont have the artifacts or talent material reservoirs to match and get them up to par. I have an alt account in the same spot and it is painful. I can say that if you grind out good artifacts and talent materials, you will eventually get over the hump, but it does take a pretty long while. I can understand if you don't want to commit that much time investment to get up to par.

notthatjaded2026-01-26 20:44

If you have fought Abyss Lectors/Heralds before (and you should have by this point if you're doing that quest) you will know that the health stops depleting because you're expected to take out their shield and that requires reactions. If you are trying to heal with food instead of a healer, you should probably consider building a healer to handle that instead of solely relying on food items. Or a shielder to limit the damage you take in the first place.

You don't need 5 star characters and weapons and to min max artifacts to beat these guys, you just need to understand their mechanics and how to counter them. It sounds like you're trying to brute force them instead which...yeah, that can be hard and frustrating.

InkJuse2026-01-26 21:08

So my characters that I use and shuffle with are Razor, Bennett, Kokomi, and Ganyu. I can assure you there were plenty of reactions happening. I can't tell you what happens when they're low life because the screen is filled with constant explosions. I would absolutely love to have my healers heal, but my team ends up taking way too much damage way too fast. I have a level 80 Noelle. I think that's the only shield character I have besides Diona (70).

notthatjaded2026-01-26 21:17

I mean reacting with their shields. Like...don't bother using Razor on electro guy (hydro is also not a good counter for electro) or Bennett on pyro guy. Kokomi should be very effective at keeping your characters topped up on healing though as long as you place her jellyfish well. Koko and Ganyu should be able to handle pyro guy though.

Since you mention using food....are you using food dishes to increase your damage and defense attributes? There's also dishes for lowering the amount of stamina you use when sprinting. These could help as well. Just don't try to stack different dishes of the same type (can't use two ATK dishes at the same time, for instance).

InkJuse2026-01-26 21:34

If they do have some sort of shield, I have no idea what I'm looking for. I just see their lanky bodies and a constant barrage flame/electro balls. I do try to make the best out of the elemental reactions, but this is just far to difficult for me to keep up.

highlyregarded11552026-01-26 21:46

Bruh it is literally simpler than Pokemon typing.

InkJuse2026-01-26 22:22

I'm very happy for you that it's easy for you. That's great.

notthatjaded2026-01-26 21:53

There's a smaller bar that shows the amount of their shield that appears under their health bar. They also look a little "glowier" than they do otherwise though I realize that might be hard to recognize.

[https://imgur.com/a/SEVwnAr](https://imgur.com/a/SEVwnAr)

Llavan2026-01-26 21:55

The shield meter is below their HP bar when it appears. The color of the shield meter also shows what element the shield is.

Neospanner2026-01-26 22:23

In addition to what others have said, a good indicator that their shield is up is that they have a permanent element marker over their head. So when the Electro Abyss Lector's shield is up, the Abyss Lector will have an Electro symbol over his head, even when you're not attacking him.

Shielded Abyss Heralds are immune to all damage but will die immediately when their shield gets taken down. The shields are only vulnerable to elements that can create elemental reactions. Some elements get the job done faster than others - for instance, Electro Lector's shield is most vulnerable to Cryo, Pyro, and Dendro. Other elements (except Electro, which it's immune to) will work, but will take much longer.

Also, be sure to keep moving. If you stand in place, you'll get killed much more quickly. Also, be sure to dash just before an attack is about to hit. You become briefly immune to damage whenever you dash.

JMViolins2026-01-26 20:45

I’m sorry, fam. I think that would be frustrating to anyone!

If you just needed to vent, that’s totally fine.

If you want us to help you figure out how to strengthen your characters and teams, I’m sure many others, myself included would be happy to brainstorm with you here!

WhooooCares2026-01-26 20:49

> At some point I slowed down after Inazuma, took a break, and jumped back into it when Dendro finally became a thing. During the Chasm stuff, I just stopped playing altogether and never touched the game for 3 years or something.

People like to coddle and offer roundabout advice after reading something like this. I'm going to be honest like most people won't on here. You just have to play more and make more effort to understand combat if it's that important to you. No causal player is going to have the same ease as someone who plays regularly without a good deal of skill.

There are hard video games, Genshin isn't one of them if you play regularly.

InkJuse2026-01-26 22:19

I played it every day for months up until there were no other main story quests. Towards the end of it (Inazuma) the difficulty skyrocketed... **for me**.

I think it was somehow missed or maybe I wasn't clear that I prefaced this all by admitting to my own incompetence, because I'm getting a lot of "the game isn't hard" kind of comments.

Hence, my lack of competence.

Nyancromancer2026-01-26 23:02

I think you just need to familiarize yourself with the game more, and improve on general game knowledge.

looking at your comments, I think you either didn't pay attention or forgot some UI details , like elemental shields have always been in the game, used by abyss mages, there's a little meter below their HP bar that shows the durability of their elemental shield, and you break these shields using opposing elements that react to them. for Abyss Heralds/Lectors, those kick in once you are on the last bit of their HP and die immediately after you destroy their shield.

The Herold and Lector enemies Don't want a standard reaction team, like "Vape Ganyu" or anything like that, they want opposing elemental application.

for electro and hydro abyss mages, having cryo, dendro and pyro characters present would be the most effective way to deal with them because those elemetns react to both electro and hydro.

Razor is going to be a character you absolutely want to swap out of the team to deal with them, you can keep Kokomi because her healing is good and if you get a dendro character in there you would find that you will defeat them both fast. Even if the character is lvl 1, a Dendro applicator will be effective for what is needed.

there is also the fact that these lectors/ herolds will have a attack pattern that you can avoid,with the hydro one you can lock that one down when he activates his shield and have ganyu freeze him with her burst, The electro one is more tricky but you must avoid his electro attacks as they will drain energy.

beating these enemies doesn't require money, or super strong characters or min-maxing, it requires a little bit of stratagy and basic game knowledge

FreeEstablishment8982026-01-26 20:52

I was able to beat those chasm mobs with my diluc, lisa, barb and itto *at that time*, so you dont need the current characters to beat the old mobs, however you can view the weaknesses to see what can work on them.

Honestly just enjoy the story and archon quests and keep saving for primos and then use them on newer characters once you have enough, it takes time but if you just came after dendro/sumeru, you will get A LOT primos from completing sumeru, Fontaine, natlan and nodkrai, so maybe by the time snezhnaya comes around you could for a bunch of snezhnaya characters.

You dont need meta characters to beat regular mobs in the overworld. You may need them for the trounce domains but you can coop them, I do and its ok

Fleur_Hiiroluvr2026-01-26 20:53

It sounds like you're using food as your sustain, probably would be better if you tried to get some healer on your team, hell even a Barbara would be decent since if i remember correctly theyre a pyro and electro lectors so barbara can quickly get rid of the shield of the pyro one.

It seems like probably from being away from the game from so long (and I dont even know if the game properly explains it) yeah when the lectors/heralds drop to low health they put up an elemental shield, in this state they dont take any dmg but when you get rid of their shield they die immediately, the shields dont care for how much dmg you deal but just for applying elements to it. Hydro breaks the pyro shield easily while cryo and dendro break the electro one. Make sure you have characters who can apply a lot of those elements on your team and youll kill them in seconds.

Also if i remember correctly this is the Chasm world quest right? So like you don't even have to do this. It's not a mandatory quest so you can just continue with your main story and leave this until later.

Zohgho2026-01-26 21:00

I think you'll like Barbara.

InkJuse2026-01-26 22:29

I did enjoy her up until I got Kokomi. My Barbara's at level 60 currently. Maybe I'll boost her up. I just don't have the spirits for it now.

Zohgho2026-01-26 23:14

That's even better! I can see your team. Ganyu Kokomi should be able to deal with those lectors!

Bluetooth_Speaker12026-01-26 21:21

Honestly skill issue, if you just level up your characters and learn how elemental reactions work, there shouldn't be any problems. You could also simply not do these bosses right away and just focus on exploring and getting stronger

InkJuse2026-01-26 22:26

Yeah, it is a skill issue. I'm 100% aware.

Some of my characters are max level with some or all maxed level artifacts/weapons.

It is, in fact, a skill issue.

Formal_Condition26912026-01-26 22:38

I was running a mostly-Geo team when I got to this fight. I think it took like half an hour.

Lectors stop dying at low health and then you need to break their shields. Once the shield is broken they die immediately.

You need to hit one of these with Cryo and the other with Hydro or they’ll never die. It’s also a number of hits thing, not a size of hits thing.

esztersunday2026-01-26 22:42

If you have trouble, lower the world level.

[https://game8.co/games/Genshin-Impact/archives/323293](https://game8.co/games/Genshin-Impact/archives/323293)

Luosifen2026-01-27 00:50

In my experience with this game, the difficulty comes from having the right characters and enough investment into them which honestly just takes time and patience to collect the resources. Once you have that down I actually think the boss mechanics are secondary.

I also took a break for two years and the characters I had couldn’t clear the endgame content at the time but once I started playing again I eventually had the right characters to clear all of the end game content. You’ll eventually be able to beat everything again if you’re willing to invest the time and it’s still fun for you.