I’m so grateful for people like Arnold

That has receipts to check idiocy.

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youarenotthatguybruh2026-01-28 12:07

“Hoyo changed the lore”

No ,they just put it in front of your face because you didn’t bother check it yourself

Tempest3212026-01-28 12:14

What change of lore when most don't even know the lore lmao.

youarenotthatguybruh2026-01-28 12:16

They think the AQ is the only lore the game has , smh

Worth_Department_4212026-01-28 12:18

There’s literally a post in the meme subreddit of *exactly* this with thousands of upvotes lmfaoo we’re seeing it in real time

youarenotthatguybruh2026-01-28 12:21

I know , thats why I said this . Is unbelievable, when some were even in the main story but people have selective memory to push their agenda that hoyo ruined the game lol, lmao even

After 5.0 Genshin has only been better and better , they implemented a ton of qol and fixed the MC voice and AQ presentation and implementation of more lore elements into the main story

If someone says that Genshin is getting worse they just have to stop playing, they are burned out or just never liked the game

Individual-Tap-89712026-01-28 13:14

On the last paragraph, there are some people who just wont accept that they changed, that they simply grew out of it, not that it necessarily got worse, just that it's no longer the right game for them

youarenotthatguybruh2026-01-28 13:16

And it’s fine , is called being burned out, the game doesnt stimulate you like before , forcing yourself playing it is useless

Zamen1235672026-01-28 13:15

really can i get a link to it

Popinguj2026-01-28 13:10

Tbh Hoyo shot themselves in the foot by not mentioning the deep lore in the main storyline like ever. This is the entire reason we have the Luna version and Nod-Krai, and even the devs themselves admitted it

youarenotthatguybruh2026-01-28 13:12

I agree and im happy they changed that in Natlan with the ancient dragons and everything about the shades and xbalaque

Is one of the reasons why Natlan to me is superior to any of the regions before it and nod Krai just enforced that

Is their mistake and they fixed it , blaming them for something they fixed is just weird now

Popinguj2026-01-28 14:11

Yep, it has been my gripe for a long time that instead of actually giving us direct exposition on the world (as opposed to the hidden exposition via lore) and giving answers to the questions that exposition presents, Hoyo would waste time on metaphors, allegories, so on and so forth. I enjoyed the Golden Apple Archipelago and Simulanka turned out to be quite important for the story, but this one summer event between them? I totally forgot about it. How much better and more intriguing the story and worldbuilding would've been if it was actually integrated into the main story and level design, not hidden in some obscure books.

I actually enjoyed the lore hidden in the obscure books, it's just I believe that if you want something to be more tangible you gotta voice it out directly.

plasma_soda2026-01-28 14:03

Meanwhile AQ arguably has the least amount of lore that they had to come up with Nod-Krai because too many players don't know jack shit & complain about their hc/misinformation being wrong.

MallowMiaou2026-01-28 12:23

They’re mad because some random leaker who is named something like "uncle Varka’s left ass cheek" said Capitano will be playable and it turned out he didn’t but since they don’t want to admit they falsely believed the leaker, they go like "Natlan AQ was rewritten" or something

youarenotthatguybruh2026-01-28 12:26

When Childe is leaked to die every AQ : is false, how can you believe leakers in 2026 , lmao

Capitano playable in x.x : omg he is coming , you see the leakers know what is happening

PH4N70M_Z0N32026-01-28 12:51

The leaked reliability died and I shit you not with Winter Night Lazzo. Not even they had the slightest clue it was coming.

And that did a major hit on their reliability.

youarenotthatguybruh2026-01-28 12:52

Exactly ,when they say “leakers leaked the characters personality” I just laugh , bro they didn’t know it was even coming and immediately after can tell me what their personality is , just use your brain for once

jotenha12026-01-28 13:03

And now every fucking version we get a "Lazzo part 2 coming in a week" leak that never came true.

Primordial-one2026-01-28 13:12

Im still waiting for the Hexenzirkel Teaser that was supposed to drop in 4.x (mfs also said it will drop in 5.x), surely it will be in 6.x

jotenha12026-01-28 14:13

The best part is, with all these rumours, they still didn't predict the Shades teaser.

kuroisekai2026-01-28 14:12

Leaker reliability came crashing down back in 1.5 when they kept on saying "Chasm coming in 1.6 trust" and "Baizhu confirmed dendro archon"

loadedhunter30032026-01-28 13:09

I still believe in capitano playable lmao. And leakers reasons for believing he was playable was valid tbf, he has the assets which playable characters have

Sonoreal2026-01-28 12:42

Why do i need check it when they can tell it in the main story. Every region patch we had only region story 'till x.3 patches and a little bit after that. And until new region patch we only having some events that don't connected to the main story. I want to have lore of the game in a main story, NOT in a books that i probably didn't find on some location while i was exploring region. Those filler events after the main AQ is nothing. They could give us lore in the main plot, but they didn't.

Jaynat_SF2026-01-28 12:07

He can get overly-protective of the game's writing and sometimes attacks or ridicules what I think is still valid criticism, even if I don't agree with it... But in this particular case he's 1000% right. Anyone who thinks the Celadon Mare is shoehorned just doesn't bother to read.

Disturbing_Cheeto2026-01-28 12:10

Wasn't she literally shown in the moonlit bamboo forest animation?

Edit: Got the wrong video initially

The_Bough_Keeper2026-01-28 12:19

Gentlemanor2026-01-28 12:20

No?

Gaaraks2026-01-28 13:08

In the fan animation that hoyo comissioned? Yes, she was, her design being very similar to what we now have in game. Because hoyo must have given the pointers for it. (We knew white hair golden eyes, but then there is the pony tail and the way even the clothing resembles what she uses in game on a surface level)

Arios842026-01-28 13:13

I think you are talking about the Hoyofair Video that released a year ago... to this day I have no idea how "canon" hoyofair stuff is xD

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pciGXZinXM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pciGXZinXM)

shinsaku892026-01-28 12:13

>just doesn't bother to read

Well now, what was Genshin players infamous for again?

tyjz73_2026-01-28 12:15

He doesn't attack criticism, he defends against it. Which is valid. Because he also can have an opinion about the game's writing, and has had plenty of criticisms himself about the game.

mowkibowki2026-01-28 12:27

oh i never heard he criticisms about the game, can you tell me about it?

AmethystMoon4202026-01-28 12:49

What "valid criticism" has he ever attacked/ridiculed?? Bc all I've ever seen is him pointing out dumb takes from Twitter and comments from new people who hasn't watched him before.

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Ironexeption2026-01-28 12:13

I'm salty playable ping, mountain shaper and moon carver fan. Why getting obscure lore character instead of ones that were in the game ever since 1.0?

Certain-Relative99262026-01-28 12:14

Because she’s much more important to the plot? She has direct relations to the shades, moons and old teyvat

tyjz73_2026-01-28 12:16

She was also in the game in 1.0, just in a book.

tyjz73_2026-01-28 12:14

I've seen plenty of people online calling her a "force Liyue slop character"

The_Bough_Keeper2026-01-28 12:15

online where? haven't seen anything on reddit

tyjz73_2026-01-28 12:16

It was on Reddit mostly when she was first dripped. But it's been confined to Twitter for the most part.

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tyjz73_2026-01-28 12:19

I'm not triggered. I don't know where you got that from.

But it was on the main subreddit and all over the comments of her drip and such.

Regal_The_King2026-01-28 12:22

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/s/CNkBP01g7O I mean I just saw this before making this post.

Far_Bobcat_70732026-01-28 12:23

Tbh I haven't seen anyone complaining about her either. Most fans are hyper focused on Columbina these days.

babyloniangardens2026-01-28 12:15

I am a hugeeee Ping fan (been wanting her Playable since 2.4 when I started) but I don't think there enough Ping fans it to be relevant lol

with that being said, #Madame Ping for Lantern Rite Next Year plz

Mysterious_Evening92026-01-28 12:09

He’s so over protective of the game, it’s embarrassing. He treats Genshin as if it was a vulnerable baby child.

He needs to grow up and realise that this is a video game.

Perfect_Increase87922026-01-28 12:10

Lowkey agreed but I still enjoy his gameplay lol

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Regal_The_King2026-01-28 12:15

I mean, dealing with Genshin players that complain about everything while lacking basic media literacy will do that to a person…

Mysterious_Evening92026-01-28 12:16

> I mean, dealing with Genshin players that complain about everything

He doesn’t need to deal with them. He’s not their parent or employer. He can just ignore them and move on with life.

Regal_The_King2026-01-28 12:17

If they’re in his comments harassing him or on stream harassing him, what is he meant to do?

Mysterious_Evening92026-01-28 12:20

No one harasses him about Zibai’s lore relevance lol. He chooses to get triggered.

Regal_The_King2026-01-28 12:24

You’re moving the goal post. You said he’s behaving embarrassingly and that he’s overprotective. He has been harassed multiple times by dumbass’s. So yes, he claps back. He wasn’t even rude in this post. But if you take offence you’re likely in the former camp.

Mysterious_Evening92026-01-28 12:27

Nowhere is there proof about harassment regarding Zibai’s lore. He tags people’s posts that don’t even address him and treats those posts as an attack on his vulnerable game.

ImGroot692026-01-28 12:23

he's a story focused content creator, and when those complainers came to his channels spouting nonsense, it's gonna sour the experience for others as well.

Nothing0879662026-01-28 12:22

Then go away if you don't care about the story why you sticking your nose on something that you skip? Make some sense 🤣🤣🤣

Mysterious_Evening92026-01-28 12:24

> There is only two genders

This is your Reddit profile description btw.

Nothing0879662026-01-28 12:25

And you are mad? It's a fact though 🤣🤣 if you think that there is multiple genders you are mentally ill

tyjz73_2026-01-28 12:30

"If you don't think that science is right, you're mentally ill"

I believe the Earth is round, guess I should get a brain scan.

Original-Shallot58422026-01-28 12:52

Thats a fact tho.

Common-Chip-49282026-01-28 12:23

Bro he just post 1 post on Twitter, as long as it doesn't negatively impact his personal life he can be "overprotective" however he want. Know your place

Mysterious_Evening92026-01-28 12:26

This isn’t his 1st post of being overly protective. Go check his Twitter account history.

ramsdit2026-01-28 12:28

I like his videos sometimes but was thinking the same. This feels like a strawman argument as most of the comments I’ve seen around Zibai’s release are not dismissing her lore relevance but simply saying her release feels random because she wasn’t mentioned or featured in the AQ.

The only real criticism I’ve seen is against Hoyo for releasing characters that only ever exist for one Lantern Rite and then never feature again outside of a few anecdotes. It feels like he’s purposefully ignoring that criticism of the writing.

Mysterious_Evening92026-01-28 12:31

He confuses writing and lore a lot. As an example, Scara having direct AQ relevance in Inazuma and then Sumeru made his playability feel natural and justified.

youarenotthatguybruh2026-01-28 12:32

Is called the AQ not let put character that dont have relevance with the story progression

A lot of characters in the game although lore important are side stories to the main story

The main story as of now is traveller finishing his journey, learning about the truth of this world

She isn’t random, she is tied to Liyue lore and released on the most important Liyue festivity

IS_Mythix2026-01-28 12:49

Multiple characters have not been mentioned in an AQ and got released, at least for zibai she has been mentioned several times elsewhere cos the AQ isn’t everything

erosugiru2026-01-28 12:31

If you had to waddle through a sea of the same uninformed opinions for years on end, you'd get fed up too

AlexKeal2026-01-28 12:39

Legit, Arnold is passionate about something that he likes (which is normal) and it's understandable to be miffed when people start having misinformed negative opinions about it.

It's not like he's insulting them personally, he's insulting their ignorance of the facts and even provides citations of the facts about the lore. That's not being overprotective, that's just setting things straight.

Certainly way better than a lot of CCs who care too much about hating on a game and spending too much time talking out of their ass for the sake of hating it and farming views.

leviathan-judicator2026-01-28 12:49

>Certainly way better than a lot of CCs who care too much about hating on a game and spending too much time talking out of their ass for the sake of hating it and farming views.

Lmao so true.
The same people (on twitter) I see talking shit about Arnold in this lore discussions are those who glorify other toxic CC's that do nothing but throw shade or straight up hate to the game for the sake of clout, although they're playing and spending on the game.

Odd-Tie41342026-01-28 12:54

What I hear from your 4 month old account is: I don't enjoy something so I will be miserable online and you can't enjoy it too so please be miserable with me.

If I have to choose between dramasloptubers and their misinformation filled slop 'criticism' and arnold, I will choose arnold anyday.

Mysterious_Evening92026-01-28 12:55

Not sure why you’re inventing stories in your head when I’m a lore player myself lol

SweetDarling022026-01-28 12:11

The absolute irony of calling it 'shoehorned' when the breadcrumbs have been there since the literal beginning. Arnold just dropped the entire loaf on them.

Grayewick2026-01-28 12:57

Hoyo "had to" do it because the illiterates can't be bothered.

Gentlemanor2026-01-28 12:59

Or you could also say "Horseshoehorned"

Cyno out

Body-Connoiseur692026-01-28 12:14

First time i learned some people are complaining about zibai, havent seen anyone really and I use twitter

ce1es2026-01-28 12:49

Thank you! Why did I need to scroll down this far to even understand who this is about?

geigerz2026-01-28 13:00

some people need to create a situation to be mad about, case in point: this post

PowerAdi2026-01-28 13:30

Obviously you can't be in everyones stream or look at what people answer under every post, but around MurderOfBirds even recently there were some people really trying to argue to their death around quite a bit of stuff that to their opinion was shoehorned in. Zibai was mentioned not that often but still appeared, it was more about Nod Krai, the moons, Columbina characterization in general but this kinda includes Zibai and her connection to the moon.
Oh and just any post around Zibais drip marketing (connected with gameplay leaks that existed at that time too) had some people comment on how they don't care about characters that have no connection with "the actual game" that were "never mentioned", especially on TikTok and some Twitter bubbles

Gaaraks2026-01-28 13:06

I have seen people complain on this sub.

DaymD2026-01-28 12:15

I know nothing of the lore so i don't even have the qualifications to complain about it. All i see is a new character, and that makes me happy. It's a simple life.

Impressive_Court_7162026-01-28 12:34

Right 🤷

Oreoblur2026-01-28 12:35

Exactly!

N4Zlonist2026-01-28 13:29

“ it’s a simple life “

I wish everyone would have this mindset

life would be more peaceful

CosmicWanderer_012026-01-28 14:30

Pretty good mindset.

Trebord_2026-01-28 12:20

The only character that I would say is even slightly shoehorned into the plot is Emilie. Girl gets no love, showed up for one quest and then is gone forever, and the Burning meta died right after it was born. She has no importance or relevance to much of anything, she's just kinda "there".

I still like her, though

MallowMiaou2026-01-28 12:27

My faves are talented at coming back once a year to have like 3 lines on their annual region’s main event. Most yap I get from them is their birthday letter.

Heck, even Bennett was like that before 5.8, and EVEN THEN he didn’t appear since that event…

GlitterDoomsday2026-01-28 13:32

I can understand when it's four stars, but having a five star basically pop up and vanish right after... it's weird. Even non meta units like Eula show up here and there.

Fadriii2026-01-28 13:59

Eula's tied to Amber who's tied to Collei who's tied to Tighnari who's tied to Cyno who's tied to TCG so she kinda just gets dragged along via lore

gibwater2026-01-28 14:48

Assigned Gamer At Release

zahhax2026-01-28 14:11

Eula is representative of the old royal families in mondstadt. She's relevant for lore sake

Gentlemanor2026-01-28 12:27

This I can agree with. She does feel like a quick moneygrab solution before the release of Natlan. And even tho it was recently revealed that short and long patches are started 1 and 1.5 years prior, they really were just like: "Ok, Emilie SQ is done, let's not care about her ever again!"

daydreamfairybeam2026-01-28 12:39

It just feels strange she doesn’t even show up in events. Not even the latest Fontaine film one

Primordial-one2026-01-28 12:42

Bros truly mentioned her in 1 dialogue and called it a day.

Gentlemanor2026-01-28 12:43

Yeah. It was even a wonder of the world that she had a cameo in the short Curatorium of Secrets interactions, although unvoiced.

KaedeP_222026-01-28 12:46

Other than her own Character Story Quest, she only appears in Curatorium of Secrets random dialogue.

caucassius2026-01-28 13:13

she got a honorable mention in that fontaine theme park event lmao

AlterWanabee2026-01-28 12:29

Emilie who?

Rill_Pine2026-01-28 12:51

I think she's a ninja girl with pink hair or something...

erosugiru2026-01-28 12:29

There was no plot to shoehorn her in, she debuted and dipped. She's kinda like the equivalent of a WuWa pump and dump character.

Her kit aged rather well but Burning is only between her and Kinich who is debatably a side character to a side character so no points for her there

0neWeekFriend2026-01-28 12:55

I say her kit actually aged quite poorly because it is just dmg. No res shred, no buffing, no survivability nothing. If we compare her to Ineffa she is just worse in every aspect. Even her signature is selfish compared to Ineffas buffing her shield strength through the extra attack and teamwide lunarcharge dmg. Remember that when Kinich came out there was a debate on what set to run on her, and it was either deepwood or the burning set. And if you went for the burning set the best last slot for Kinich teams with her and Bennett was Deyha on deepwood or Xiangling? Thats so ass.

erosugiru2026-01-28 13:14

I think you're tunnel visioning on the numbers but overlooking the amount of fun teams you can do with the Burning aura. Prior to Escoffier, there was a clear split between Sub-DPS, supports and healers in terms of utility and power budget. Since then, off-fielders can now do 900 things at once and being extremely good at them too.

Kinich teams usually have the Pyro slot as the Deepwood holder but pickings were slim anyway but they all have their silver linings, Dehya and Thoma were sustains and my personal go-to. Even Mavuika was better off holding Deepwood than Codex and isn't even that far ahead compared to Pyro Traveler. Xiangling's terrible. Nobody should use Bennett with Kinich anymore now that's Iansan's out and Durin is safely BiS.

And I do have to correct you on one thing, she's also a sustain because she makes you take less damage from Burning.

mr_fucknoodle2026-01-28 13:52

Everyone in the game is worse in every aspect when compared to Ineffa, she's the poster girl for powercreep

Emile was useful through the entire Natlan patch and could bypass a bunch of the Nightsoul mechanics, and her life extended as far into the first Stygian Onslaught against the Magma Dragon. But we're in a "use Lunar Reactions or eat shit" phase right now

kaeporo2026-01-28 12:36

A lot of Fontaine NPCs loved to yap about Emilie but that's about it.

CertainAttention39762026-01-28 12:50

"Mentioned in passing" is basically the Fontaine starter pack for late-patch character releases.

TaxevasionLukasso2026-01-28 13:21

? Pretty much every character but Emilie was incredibly relevant for the story that was released during Fontaine runtime. The only exceptions are the three Capitalist pigs, Chiori, Escoffier, and Emilie. May the Lord of honguan strike them down.

Sspockuss2026-01-28 13:40

Bro Limbus on the Genshin sub is wild

Jo_the_Hastur2026-01-28 13:52

Heishou packs twist this guy balls

kostasgeo1002026-01-28 13:51

Chevy too

Mountain_Pathfinder2026-01-28 14:23

Wait, who's the 'Capitalist pigs' ? Haha

Eh.. This is a nitpick, but I dunno abiut that 'incredibly' bit.

I think Clorinde didn't ***really*** show her capabilities or personality there, Lynette and Freminet were kinda subsumed by Lyney, Chevreuse didn't show up at all.

Low_Artist_76632026-01-28 12:38

HuTao had no appearances in the game for more than a year.

Most popular character in the game btw

Murky_Blueberry26172026-01-28 12:46

HuTao is literally the Geo Archon's boss....

1ll1der2026-01-28 12:58

I mean she did get a Lantern rite dedicated to her less than a year ago soooo.

Low_Artist_76632026-01-28 13:00

A year ago was 4 years since her release...

No-Number35412026-01-28 12:39

I agree that her lore relevancy is at an all time low, but she wasn't "shoehorned" either because plenty of Fontaine's characters had voicelines about her ever since 4.0. But yeah, she doesn't get ANY love by hoyo rn

FallenJaeger2026-01-28 12:43

I still haven't played her character quest, I like to pretend she's a collective hallucination.

Gentlemanor2026-01-28 12:57

I mean, you can't spell "Emilie" without "lie"

lithicgirl2026-01-28 13:09

It’s worth it because Tighnari is there

GonerBits2026-01-28 14:26

You’re missing out, it’s a fantastic quest which also has great character development for Collei.

stuckwithTenta2472026-01-28 12:45

She got wuwafied

BoothillOfficial2026-01-28 12:46

i think you mean the exact opposite LMAO she literally hasn't had any plot appearance outside of her own story quest. she fully has not been IN any plot, shoehorned or otherwise LMFAO. beyond that though, she was mentioned repeatedly before her release

Viscaz2026-01-28 12:54

Also Escoffier? The Fontaine ladies lmaooo

pad20162026-01-28 12:59

How can she be shoehorned into the plot, she isn't even in the plot.

Bourbonaddicted2026-01-28 13:01

Only thing interesting was the discussion if she was Kaveh’s mother or sister

Pinoy_20042026-01-28 13:12

She'd have to be a part of the plot first to be considered shoehorned in.

Mi5tman2026-01-28 13:15

She actually recently showed up in some Nod Krai anecdote.

After I finished the latest AQ, I went to the Curatorium of Secrets and noticed an interactible at the front desk. I examined it and it was a request from Jahoda to briefly take over for her. So, I did... and then there was a quick cutscene where Emilie showed up to do business. There's another two scenes for Gaming and Escoffier, as well.

Xerxes4572026-01-28 13:35

That’s the thing she wasn’t shoehorned into the plot. She wasn’t even added to the plot.

I_am_the_grass2026-01-28 14:00

Escoffier as well. It is a trend with late patch releases.

There was no mention of Yelan anywhere before her release as well. At least they've done better in integrating her into the story.

RampagingElks2026-01-28 14:00

I actually just finished Emilies story quest and wished we saw more of her. Forensic perfumist was interesting.

minkymy2026-01-28 14:21

I feel like Escoffier is also in that boat tbh

Apostlethe13th2026-01-28 14:30

Emilie, chiori, mika, dahlia, mizuki and escoffier all have NPC energy but escoffier got saved for being a dedicated skirk support (which i still fucking hate. Id rather have Skirk as an off field sub dps and support for childe to make him meta relevant again.)

BeautifulSpell62092026-01-28 12:23

Hey! Nice art but what did you draw?🤣

SomeAwakenedDude2026-01-28 12:24

They're doing it with Zibai too? Lol

MakiSaad22026-01-28 12:25

The Lore is too damn Big
Im not complaining but knowing everything is nearly impossible it requires tons of time

neogeoman1232026-01-28 12:33

Correct. But then going on to claim that the lore/story was rewritten while not knowing all of it themselves is a complete headass move on the part of the twitter users arnold is addressing

sil3ntthunder2026-01-28 12:28

I think its both. Its a gacha game at the end of the day. Banner sales matters. They can't time the lore and the banner every single time. So they have to change writing here and there to manage it. But the thing is its them who thought of it in the beginning (if they did) and its them who changed it (if they are doin), I have nothing to say about it as I don't know the other side. All I want is a better experience when I get the thing on liverserver.

NapalmDesu2026-01-28 12:30

If its further than 5 minutes into an ashikai video, then it ain't real

Asle902026-01-28 12:34

I like Genshin its a good game 👍

El_Nealio2026-01-28 12:34

Where is the “daughter of Istaroth” part implied? I might’ve missed that somewhere

Gentlemanor2026-01-28 12:41

The 5.2 book he mentioned in the post.

The book claims she is a daughter of time

El_Nealio2026-01-28 12:46

Oh my bad, With the Luna 4 in brackets I assumed it was from this patch

Toxic_MotionDesigner2026-01-28 12:48

Spring of Hidden Jade Vol 2:

*"The mountain people once* ***viewed her as time's daughter***, like a white horse leaping from a pure spring, one whom no shackles could bind. Just as it was with her proud mother, so it was with her — no wall or eggshell could bar her path."

*"As for her, she had no choice but to be trapped within the shell of the starry sky, forced to tarry within this stagnant, foreign land,* ***awaiting her mother's thousand threads***, awaiting the erosion of hardy stone, awaiting the next encounter from beyond..."

El_Nealio2026-01-28 13:06

Thank you

Sanmiie2026-01-28 12:37

Bro literally said checkmate.

I’ve been wanting to check out his content for a while but didn’t have the occasion. I believe the time has come.

UrticateMaster2026-01-28 12:38

That’s true but all those teases didn’t necessarily point toward it all being related to a single character. I kinda think hoyo designed Zibai in a way that she could fit into all those things instead of planning her way back since moonlit bamboo forest

Common-Chip-49282026-01-28 12:51

No? Moonlit bamboo and spring of hidden jade (plus hutao's lantern rite and yanfei anecdote) literally talk about "white horse adeptus" directly

Toxic_MotionDesigner2026-01-28 12:38

Lang-Gan being the Chasm unified era civilization is hinted a lot

1: We know from the trailer that it used to be on the western side of Liyue (she took people farther east to protect them)

2: The description of the "Lost Valley" artifact set domain in the Chasm fits a lot of things we know about Lang-Gan as well like "ritual ground", "destructive battle", and a cataclysmic event:

>*The* ***ancient ritual grounds*** *were buried beneath the earth amidst a* ***cataclysm that tore heaven and earth*** *asunder before being uplifted by the descent of an alien object, and finally unveiled by a* ***destructive battle that resulted from a betrayal***. Nonetheless, those who once frequented this place are no more.

The new 6.3 Aubade set mentions a sacred ritual/alter ground in Lang-Gan too:

>*Thus, the peoples of the earth offered their greatest devotion to the Lady Mothers of the Moonlit Night. Some would ascend the heights of Vindagnyr, presenting laurel-crowned verses to the bright moons;* ***Others would step into the sacred altar grounds of Lang-Gan***, letting finely ***carved jade*** *accentuate the beauty of the night.*

The association of jade with Lang-Gan could be seen as a nod to Chenyu Vale since the Chasm people were the ones that migrated from there to Chenyu in the first place.

Iirc, the name "Langgan" itself also refers to an ore, that resembles Jade

raspsleif2026-01-28 14:56

hi toxic

iesous232026-01-28 12:38

He's fast become one of my favourite creators for genshin content.
As someone who is really fascinated by all the lore and try my best to pay attention, i also struggle with a really bad attention span at times and miss a bit so he's helped me fill in a lot of the gaps

TrueLordTrinity2026-01-28 12:48

That's why I keep telling some people to READ!

*Inserts Read Madafaka Read! gif*

lostn2026-01-28 12:50

I'm impressed he can recall all of these references. It must take a lot of work to maintain whatever repository he has going.

I wonder how many more upcoming playable characters have already been mentioned but missed or forgotten by most people.

Gentlemanor2026-01-28 13:15

I mean, Tsaritsa is also a character first mentioned in 1.0

But if it's about less mainstream characters, we have the Lawawalker (Enjou is hinted to be him, but we need the full Mare Jivari voiced quest stating it Hoyo!), we have the Bloodstained Knight, who might be the topic of Varka's quest in the future since there are already crumbs in Nod-Krai about him.

There is also Azoth, whose dust we can purchase to change gemstones' types, but we have no idea who Azoth is.

Major_Economy_5712026-01-28 13:24

Azoth may be Azosite the same substance we found in Sumeru's Ruin Golems and the Khaenri'ah factory,.

UrGettingcooked09242026-01-28 12:51

Who is he?

Gentlemanor2026-01-28 12:52

Just a lore focused CC playing since Day 1 of Genshin

UrGettingcooked09242026-01-28 12:53

Ah i see

Petter17892026-01-28 13:11

Someone you can ask for directions

TYRDurden2026-01-28 12:54

Who is "they"? Must be terminally online twitter users who froth at the mouth at the mention of any female character.

Emotional_Ad_55262026-01-28 13:25

She's obviously shoehorned waifu bait, don't you know?

PowerAdi2026-01-28 13:36

This, then the people that are still virtue signaling around Natlan that say they had to shoehorn Nod Krai in because they lost so much money in Natlan, which connects to Zibai "obviously not fitting in the story"
Oh and especially TikTok is bad in general too, just people that think they know everything that are arguing

TheBirdNamedSparrow2026-01-28 12:57

Arnold - The LoreKeeper

DanielGREY_752026-01-28 14:31

The best Genshin CC

Ordinary-Soup-62722026-01-28 12:57

Tbh - I’m not against the books cus they’re for the lore enjoyers but like, nobody is reading that so people will think it came outta nowhere. Valid still, but eh, I don’t fw the books.

ILoveSongOfJustice2026-01-28 12:57

I'm pretty sure Lang-Gan is just the far-eastern ruins in the area surrounding Tianqiu Valley. Otherwise, I feel like there would be specific mentionings of Lang-Gan in Chasm lore.

Apekecik20712026-01-28 12:58

I'm thankful for how passionate Murderofbirds/Arnold is. Without him, I might not care about Genshin lore making me appreciate the game even more

a_e292026-01-28 13:01

I wish people learnt to phrase their thoughts better. It's factually wrong to say that Zibai came out of nowhere when we indeed have had lore about her for a long time. But it's fine to admit that you're not interested, or you think it *feels* too sudden bc you find mentions about her too easy to miss or something. Use your words, cmon.

EntertainmentIll21752026-01-28 13:03

wild how consistent they kept her descripion all this time, i love when the lore gets that level of detail

looking_at_memes_2026-01-28 13:06

I'm interested in the lore but I can't be bothered with Hoyo's style of writing their texts. I'm just not that kind of person who will read a lot of cryptic texts, write down notes and then piece everything together. I'd rather just watch a video where someone explains to me but I never really did it until now, just once in a while

PowerAdi2026-01-28 13:34

Which is a completely fine way to consume the game. It is made to have many ways to enjoy the game, and when deep diving into the cryptic written texts is not your thing, no need to force it.
It's just a problem if you don't acknowledge that there is some information you are missing *right now* that Hoyo is teasing for future content where it will be in the foreground, AND you want to argue with people based on your incomplete set of information when it would matter. Which unfortunately, is quite wide spread

AkizoraRuby2026-01-28 13:17

Eula wasn't mentioned before her release and everyone was okay back then

Speedypanda42026-01-28 13:25

nobody was really complaining about this, hoyo even mentioned her by name in a 6.0 quest, she was never shoehorned. But there are times where hoyo has genuinely changed characters and the plot. The name of the sumeru archon quests for example, were changed.

Natural_Ad15302026-01-28 13:27

When you know about the character lore before it drops, it hits different when they finally release that character. Compared to "oh wow, horse girl, umazing!"

plasma_soda2026-01-28 13:29

Out of the loop. Who's this about? Zibai?

DeeFundz2026-01-28 13:57

it’s fair to not be a fan of how ‘non in your face’ some lore is but to act like it didn’t exist prior isn’t true

RQT_Dood2026-01-28 13:57

I mean, people saying she was randomly added last minute are obviously wrong, but a character being present in some lore/texts in the game is marginally different than a character being actually teased to be released. While she is mentioned multiple times I don't think anyone expected her to even be playable before she got announced.

I hate to compare her to characters like Varka but he has been mentioned multiple times by multiple characters, has been present in Archon quests months before we even got confirmation by hoyo and has been expected to be playable for years.

chocolate-corn2026-01-28 14:04

Even as a Day 1 Genshin fan, I will never say a character is “shoehorned” since I can guarantee there’s an npc / story book / character story / character voice line / Archon Quest / Limited event that hints at them existing. The amount of unread information in Genshin (at least for me) makes me unworthy of assuming anything is added last minute

Ok_Trifle53502026-01-28 14:27

He's the only one I look to for lore. He's always happy when he has new information, he knows how to fit it together, he remembers it. You can tell he really enjoys playing.

Unlike other people who do lore, who forget or change things to suit themselves, make theories without saying they're theories, which makes everyone believe them and take them as truth.

It's just a shame that he gets into ridiculous controversies for simply giving his opinion on a character or facts.

zriL-2026-01-28 14:56

The random release of 5.2 book was probably because this was when they decided that she would release now. It's exactly the timeframe of 1-1.5 year they were talking about regarding the planning of important stuff.

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