Simple guide to understand if YOUR🫵 main is cooked in the current meta

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qri_pretty2026-01-28 14:35

By this logic we can say that Kinich isn’t cooked yet.

Negative-Slip52162026-01-28 14:44

Can Lauma Bina Lunarbloom out dps Kinich ?

I meant Lauma Columbina Nahida Sucrose Vs Kinich's Best Team...

qri_pretty2026-01-28 15:07

Nope. Durin is better than this duo for him.

Negative-Slip52162026-01-28 15:14

I am not saying a wheelchair for his team
I am saying Onfielding Columbina in a lauma Nahida sucrose team might out out more dps than a Kinich Durin iansan Emilie

Historical_Clock87142026-01-28 15:19

Did u even read the question

Luneward2026-01-28 15:11

I am willing to guess that a Kinich/Emilie/Durin(Mavuika)/Bennett can still get a little over that. There's a few too many elemental reaction interferences for Kinich to get the normal output from a Bineffa wheelchair.

FallenAngelII2026-01-28 15:22

The question was not which team gives Kinich the most personal damage, it's which team is the most team damage. Will Kinich Premium beat on-fielding Columbina, Ineffa/Nahida, Lauma, Kinich?

iguanacatgirl2026-01-28 15:39

i think you misunderstand what they're saying- the fact that any combination with kinich consists of dendro/pyro interrupts lunar charged a lot makes bineffa kinich worse team dps

FallenAngelII2026-01-28 15:46

**You're** not understanding the original argument. The question is whether or not Kinich's best team is an actual Burning team or one where he's just a cheerleader for Lunar-Bloom where his only reason to exist is Dendro Resonance.

rhyu02032026-01-28 15:57

The idea is that is you put columbina ineffa and sucrose together while the 4th member (kinich in this case) sits in the corner and does nothing. If this team does more dmg than the actual intended playstyle for the 4th member then theyre cooked lol

eggysleepyhead2026-01-28 15:31

Bina main DPS with Lauma Ineffa Sucrose is better than Kinich, yes. But also it's like the top 5 team in the game

AetheravenCatsuki132026-01-28 14:47

The future servant of The Glorious Kuhul Ahaw is obviously not cooked. The Dragon Lord only selects the strongest warriors.

flippin_Cal2026-01-28 15:14

I see no fault in this statement my kinich is in fact thriving 👀

moidlester2026-01-28 15:32

kinich really isn't though, durin did a lot for him. he's basically on the same level as mualani at c0r0 (though admittedly mualani has far better vertical investment)

IS_Mythix2026-01-28 15:37

Ehh Mua with c2mona mav sucrose is 120k dps and kinich with durin emilie iansan is 107k

And if u have c4 mona it goes to 136k

Ofc wouldn’t say kinich is cooked cos 107k is still fine but yeah

madmaskman2026-01-28 17:21

Calculating DPS for Mualani is also incredibly deceptive cause she ends up being a lot better in practice than on paper. She rarely ever sticks to her rotation, she's highly adaptable depending on HP thresholds.

Frontloaded damage is also a very big advantage.

jux_peter2026-01-28 14:36

Out of my favourites, Skirk and Ga-ming are safe but xianyun and wanderer..

Cursed__Neon2026-01-28 14:51

Xianyun is safe because she enables plunges and buffs them greatly. As long as we keep getting more dedicated plunge dpses she will remain useful and relevant.

On field Xianyun on the other hand-

jux_peter2026-01-28 14:54

I have 2 builds for her, one if for plunge support and one is on field DPS and here i was talking about her on field DPS

NeosFlatReflection2026-01-28 15:03

Xianyun aint even good for the meta plunge dps. Varesa prefers oveload by a long shot.

Cursed__Neon2026-01-28 15:11

if (and I cannot stress this enough) your iansan is at least c2 but very preferably c6 and your chevreuse is c6 (not as important but still very impactful)

Her hypercarry with xianyun also obviously requires c6 iansan but doesn't require c6 chevy and the damage isn't actually bad at all. (Varesa Furina Xianyun Iansan)

I'll finish this off with, if a future plunge dps isn't pyro/electro they will most likely use and enjoy xianyuns buffs. That said, it's probably not gonna happen anytime soon

ThePoetessOfLesbos2026-01-28 16:53

I have Xianyun and adore her. But there are maybe 4 units who actually want to plunge. Hu Tao, Diluc, Gaming, and Varesa (who prefers Overload). Nod Krai DPSs do their damage through elemental reactions, Natlan units use elemental skills… There just aren’t that many infusion DPSses as I first thought, and most of them don’t want to plunge.

Livid_Boysenberry_582026-01-28 14:51

Just use Xianyun with gaming

jux_peter2026-01-28 14:54

I do, I have 2 builds for her, one if for plunge support and one is on field DPS and here i was talking about her on field DPS

Ke5_Jun2026-01-28 15:02

Not a fair comparison because Xianyun was never meant to be an on field DPS. Her viability shouldn’t be judged as a main DPS just cause you like to use her as one, it should be judged according to her best role.

It’s like saying “Iansan sucks because she isn’t a good DPS!” when her main role is support.

qri_pretty2026-01-28 14:37

And by the way, I’d rather replace “Bineffa” with Bennett.

BlackTemplarKNB2026-01-28 14:37

even neuvillette is cooked if furina don't have c2 and sig

qri_pretty2026-01-28 14:38

I’d rather think that anyone who uses Bennett is cooked.

BlackTemplarKNB2026-01-28 14:42

if nicole is actually pyro support and even a bit generalist - he might be

Luneward2026-01-28 15:13

The current version of Varka on beta is leading a lot of people to suspect Nicole may be a very specific kind of support or sub-dps. His current numbers don't make sense otherwise except in incredibly niche speculations (ie standard banner or free character).

Shadow_Xylex2026-01-28 14:45

Neuvillette I think is a special case because he literally works with any support and synergizes with Bineffa well

VanillaPuddingRecipe2026-01-28 15:11

cope 🥀. Aino is better than him in the same team.

Relevant_Milk62752026-01-28 15:29

Neuvi haters are now straight up lying omg. Respect the wheelchair god lil b

Shadow_Xylex2026-01-28 15:29

Is there any proof of that? The lunar buff stacking she provides (only at C6 btw) has diminishing returns, and outside of that she only brings 80EM to the table. She might be better but I think Neuvillette brings more

SanicHegehag2026-01-28 14:37

Mizuki gets a pass from the wheelchair allegations.

She's an on-field character meant to be played with three off of Field characters who use Swirlable elements, and she prefers a shielder.

It's not a wheelchair if it's her BiS Team by design.

SF-UberMan2026-01-28 15:00

>It's not a wheelchair if it's her BiS Team by design.

Sucrose: Am I a joke to you?

ixyhlqq2026-01-28 15:07

Just because Sucrose is BiS in Bineffa doesn't exclude Bineffa from being BiS for Mizuki.

SF-UberMan2026-01-28 15:08

True, but why the hell would you pick Mizuki over Sucrose, especially when Sucrose is good even at C0 and is now 100% free IIRC?

ixyhlqq2026-01-28 15:11

Mizuki is kinda fun! Also maybe if Sucrose was needed for another team (I can only really think of Melt teams RN) and you didn't have Kazuha?

zondac2026-01-28 15:12

Heals, bonus damage on swirl based on EM, lets you fill a fourth slot with instructor diona for more em boosts… I think those would be the main reasons

jotenha12026-01-28 15:30

And if she's C6 you get Crit swirls... But that would probably be unrealistic.

SanicHegehag2026-01-28 15:13

Because Mizuki is cuter, and her playstyle is hilarious.

CaesarSalary2026-01-28 15:14

if you keep dying & have enough damage either way then mizuki is the better choice. might not be the most common scenario but it’s definitely possible

Low_Artist_76632026-01-28 15:15

You can guarantee Mizuki, but not Sucrose

SF-UberMan2026-01-28 15:18

Sucrose you can now get for free IIRC. I think you can get her from the Hexenzirkel buffs thingy.

Edit: You can now get Sucrose from the Witch's Homework Solution for free. So the point about Mizuki is now moot for the most part.

jotenha12026-01-28 15:29

Well, my Sucrose is built for damage with Crit stats and all, and I don't want to mess that build.

So if I want to play swirl, yeah, Mizuki would be the best option. Lanyan is also surprisingly fun with them.

NeosFlatReflection2026-01-28 15:02

I mean the rest of anemo drivers too by that logic

balaozuspeito2026-01-28 15:42

Also sucrose

Denshinu22026-01-28 15:50

This

dennisleonardo2026-01-28 16:09

There are only 3 anemo drivers. Mizuki, ifa, and sucrose. For them, yeah, bineffa isn't a wheelchair, it's just their best team by design.

Hexerei venti, xiao, heizou, and wanderer are not drivers. They are anemo carries. Bineffa is a wheelchair in their case because they were designed to be played as hypercarries. Meaning with buffers, maybe a single sub dps.

They were not designed to be played with VV and provide no support beyond equipping VV. But remember, even skirk can use noblesse oblige. Using a buff set doesn't make a unit a buffer.

NeosFlatReflection2026-01-28 16:47

Heizou is a driver. Hes like part time carry, part time driver.

Why driver? Cuz of his A4 that buffs teammate’s em.

Dyzinel2026-01-28 18:48

What about Sayu tho?

She usually builds full EM, but if using Makhaira, part of her EM is converted into ATK and she completes both of her scalings.

Iokua_CDN2026-01-28 15:13

Who is your favorite 4th for the Mizuki team? She has sat there looking pretty on my account for a while now, doing nothing.

SanicHegehag2026-01-28 15:14

I go with Yae Miko for lore reasons

Iokua_CDN2026-01-28 15:16

Solid pick, thanks!

-_crow_-2026-01-28 15:21

i just use fischl

Historical_Clock87142026-01-28 22:11

Sucrose! Her partywide EM share benefits everyone in the team since mizuki's swirl and bineffa's LC dmg are based on EM. Plus she can funnel particles to Mizuki so you can go full EM and still get her burst back each time.

Radiant-Midnight91012026-01-28 15:28

So does Raiden get a pass too. Her role is recharging energy for sub dps. Doesn't count as wheelchair if we play her with intended role right

SanicHegehag2026-01-28 15:31

On the one hand, she really is meant to be played as a DPS.

On the other hand, she has way more Synergy here than she does on a hyperbloom team.

MaxL6652026-01-28 16:45

Raiden’s best team is lauma hyperbloom

Radiant-Midnight91012026-01-29 02:24

I thought her current best team is Bineffa. She can be built normally instead of Em in that team, and she buffs Bina by lowering her Er need.

headphonesnotstirred2026-01-28 15:31

theoretically, could Ifa be given a pass by this logic? his best team is Bineffa + Ororon since he's an on-field Swirl driver meant for Electro/Lunar-Charged

GrayFullbuster642026-01-28 14:38

I mean, Bineffa wheelchair is one of Clorinde's best teams but I think overload with During, Fischl and Chevi is still better. So is she now cooked or not?

worldwarA2026-01-28 14:44

Clorinde is cooked. She got outclassed by Veresa and Flins, both her best teams got better main dps’. She was relegated to Aggravate which, by today’s standards, is trash and the last Dendro character released, Lauma, doesn’t help her with Aggravate. On top of that, neither Veresa or Flins rely on lower ping, so if you play with over 80 ping, Clorinde loses some DPS.

Draw-Two-Cards2026-01-28 15:25

Clorinde was never really great, Even when she was technically the best electro DPS she was still not worth pulling. Overload was best use for her but can be done with a Pyro carry instead, Electro charged would use Fischl, Hyperbloom would use Raiden or Kuki. Her being cooked is not surprising.

Capable-Tart81682026-01-28 16:24

Sounds like you just don't know how to build a character🤣

VanillaPuddingRecipe2026-01-28 15:08

It's either worse Flins or worse Varesa.

Relevant_Milk62752026-01-28 15:26

c0 clorinde can still clear fearless without bineffa so she most definitely isnt

The_Mikeskies2026-01-28 15:39

C0 Clorinde has cleared a Dire boss each SO.

The_Mikeskies2026-01-28 15:43

Clorinde makes Bineffa use Kazuha over Sucrose. Clorinde Bineffa is also higher DPS than Varesa Bineffa. Clorinde’s main problem is teammate synergy. They keep releasing potential teammates that have glaring flaws.

StanTheWoz2026-01-28 20:06

I'm still waiting for a pyro support for her that can actually do a 16-17s rotation...the overload teams are good but being locked to 18s+ isn't ideal. Was very disappointed to see that Durin was the same.

But it'd also be great if they made aggravate actually strong

Maleficent_Oil_36792026-01-28 14:39

Damn C6 R5 Mavuika is cooked. I'm ruined

Relevant_Milk62752026-01-28 15:24

Genshin players are NEVER escaping the cant read allegations 💔

Historical_Clock87142026-01-28 15:25

Wait. C6 R5 Mavuika's best team is Bineffa?

lio-ns2026-01-28 16:17

Fuck no😭

ThePoetessOfLesbos2026-01-28 16:49

Bro didn’t even read the meme 🥀🙏

LoveDeer2026-01-28 14:42

How to be Cooked in Genshin: Play by the Meta

Berry_Sprout2026-01-28 14:46

I kinda hate this mentality :(

There's tons of units that are good cause they do damage while still having off feilders. Characters like Tao, Navia, chloride, ext use Bina/ineffa so well cause they can still do most of Thier dps with it.

It's like how people don't say units are cooked if they need like citlani or furina. They still need a support

FloorGang-R22026-01-28 14:48

Ik, the flair says fluff 🥀

Ke5_Jun2026-01-28 15:12

While I don’t necessarily agree with OP’s “joke”, there is a difference between characters who use BinaNeffa as supports, and others who are being wheelchaired by them.

Flins is fine because even though he uses these two characters, **he still does the most dmg on the team**. A character like Clorinde is teetering on the edge of being outdpsed by Ineffa, if not outright doing less dmg than her.

If you actually look at the distribution of dmg a character does in the BinaNeffa core, you can easily start to see who is actually pulling their weight in the team.

BTW, Hu Tao is also on the edge of being wheelchaired in the BinaNeffa core. C1R1 Hu Tao with Xilonen and BinaNeffa is only doing about 30% of the team’s dmg, with Ineffa doing roughly the same if not more (~35%). Even Columbina is matching Hu Tao (~25-30%).

FloorGang-R22026-01-28 15:21

Damn y am i catching strays 🥀

Imaginary_Camera_2982026-01-28 15:24

flins is a weird case it's like he's being wheelchaired but he's also pushing the wheelchair along with him.

Ke5_Jun2026-01-28 15:27

That’s not what wheelchair means.

Wheelchair doesn’t mean “this mainDPS is reliant on key supports”; it means that **even with their reliant supports**, they aren’t even doing the majority of the dmg in the team.

Nefer without Lauma does a lot less DPS, **but she is still the main DPS** and out damaging everyone else. This is the case with Flins as well, though the dmg distribution is more evenly spread. Make no mistake though, Flins is still doing about 50% of the team’s dmg and thus does not qualify for “being wheelchaired” even though he is reliant on Ineffa.

VacationReasonable2026-01-28 15:54

Hu Tao still benefits from all the EM buffs the team provides for vapes, EM from Ineffa, SMS set, EM from Sucrose etc. By definition it's not a wheelchair because they do have synergy to play together, no character will have a high damage % in a bineffa team because a large portion of bineffa's power budget was put into their own damage

Someone like Neuvillette with bineffa is more of a wheelchair team because he doesn't have any synergy with bineffa, can't do anything with all the EM buffs etc, that team is more just putting two individually good units together

AffectionateSign79412026-01-28 16:06

but hu tao also contributes by buffing everyone cr

Ke5_Jun2026-01-28 16:09

It’s not about contributing. It’s about contributing **the most**.

12% crit rate is nice, but it’s not making or breaking the fact that Ineffa is still outdamaging Hu Tao. Hu Tao herself doesn’t even get the CR buff.

-Meo-2026-01-28 16:27

where are these numbers coming from

Ama_Liczi2026-01-28 15:14

I'm sorry, but my Ineffa alone outdamages Clorinde with better build in lc team

Relevant_Milk62752026-01-28 15:23

Im sorry but Clorinde's strongest team is Durin overload which has even higher damage output than bineffa wheelchair. So there's definitely something wrong with your Clorinde

Soloking_Itachi2026-01-28 14:48

This is all false,none of these are cooked,and all are good infact.

FloorGang-R22026-01-28 14:50

Yh it’s FLUFF, its not serious its a joke 🫩🥀

Soloking_Itachi2026-01-28 14:52

Do y'all pass anything as a joke now?

Crimson_Raven2026-01-28 14:53

Sadly, "it's just a joke" is a mantra used to disguise intent far too often.

Soloking_Itachi2026-01-28 14:54

I don't think i'm built to interact with this stuff tbh

Crimson_Raven2026-01-28 14:54

Same

FloorGang-R22026-01-28 14:55

Its really not that deep

FloorGang-R22026-01-28 14:56

Ig? I found it pretty funny

RunImmediate60622026-01-28 15:00

i miss when jokes weren't based on misinformation...

sil3ntthunder2026-01-28 14:54

My main "meta wise" are rn Mavuika and Skirk premium.

MusicMasher332026-01-28 14:57

My best teams are my Skirk, Kinich, and Durin ones. My Cyno is cooked though

Luneward2026-01-28 15:20

Cyno has always been kind of cooked. He didn't really have the supports he needed to support his long rotations when he released. And by the time there were supports that could run along side him for the whole time, there were far better options.

zerokrush2026-01-28 16:23

what supports runs well ? No matter who I used him with, his super long rotation always felt extremely anti-synergistic with the whole cast.

EKAAfives2026-01-28 16:50

Like I used him with baizhu and it worked well but cyno seems to be the type of character where you kinda want to end his ult early if you have it built

zerokrush2026-01-28 16:55

Of course it had to be the one support I skipped

Onetwodash2026-01-28 17:08

Lauma should work.

International-Fee7712026-01-28 23:07

with lauma it your have to do quickbloom or hyperbloom, baizhu lets you play aggravate

SvensonIV2026-01-28 17:44

Exactly. Cyno's best mate is Nahida. However, due to his nature of being a burst reliant DPS, the whole concept of Cyno Nahida falls flat as soon as the enemies affected by Nahida's skill die.

Madlogger132026-01-28 19:13

I dont understand the problem here? Like, his DPS only falls flat if the enemy dies, and that aint happening

SvensonIV2026-01-28 19:24

Cyno is unusable in multiwave content.

Madlogger132026-01-28 19:29

Only in multiwave? /j

2000shadow20002026-01-28 21:41

Most content is multiwave. His dps is not good enough for onslaught either

Madlogger132026-01-28 23:37

I was making a joke that he wont work really anywhere cuz his dps is low af

2000shadow20002026-01-29 01:35

I'm clearly dumb as I misread and didn't grab the sarcasm

SilverTheWyvern2026-01-29 06:08

That's not really true anymore. Lauma applies Dendro across multiple waves, making his rotation a lot easier to handle. Not necessarily a perfect solution, but he can function just fine in multiwave content now

Isa-Lune_2026-01-28 17:44

Yeah, literally Durin is one of the only characters that somewhat match him because of his ult duration, but you can't do a really good team with him because you need the Hexerei buffs for the two to function, which then you have again no one that match

ForbiddenAngel32026-01-28 18:03

Fischl....Chervuse.....

But it's just worse than Varesa or Clorinde

LesserTierArchon2026-01-28 23:11

hu tao, raiden, alhaitham, kazuha, xiangling are like retired Olympic gold medalists, they once stood at the absolute peak and now they have gracefully stepped down from the stage

cyno on the other hand was cooked from day 1, I feel like with how clunky his kit is compared to tighnari maybe he was supposed to be standard and tighnari was supposed to be limited

Alctalks2026-01-28 15:27

While Cyno is cooked, he works well with Bineffa by design because he's an electro that builds both em and crit who wanted electro and hydro in his team from the start.

ShiroKuroIro2026-01-28 16:09

But not using him and using sucrose/fischl in his slot actually increase the team dps over using him. D:

ImmortalFriend2026-01-28 15:53

Tbh, I think he is an exception, no?

He always struggled to maintain support buffs for his whole Burst duration and Bina's kit lasts exactly for that long on every rotation. He deals significant percent of damage in that team, as far as I'm aware.

It's less that Bineffa are his wheelchair and more that they're almost tailor made to slot as his off-field.

Ayanokoji912026-01-28 17:42

Yeah except that he does fucking nothing and his damage is ass so he is just being wheelchaired regardless of synergy

Clades_Candor2026-01-28 17:53

Outside flins, yae is apparently the only other electro that's not completely carried and contributes a decent amount herself for the columbina/ineffa/sucrose comp.

Cyno is probably the 2nd best after yae though. But yae has a much more comfortably fitting rotation, higher damage and synergizes more overall.

CanWe_SaveHex2026-01-28 18:12

I swear… the Sumeru DPS (Alhaitham, Cyno, Wanderer) need a buff desperately. They were never good to begin with.

Not applicable to Nilou since she is pretty much a Bloom bot nowadays.

Jrolaoni2026-01-28 18:58

Alhaitham was sneakily good for a hot second because he was carried by hyperbloom, enough that people were comparing him to Fontaine DPSs for a while.

Like that’s insane. THE BEST DPS from your region being carried by a reaction designed to be a low investment high floor low ceiling for early game players is wild.

FinishResponsible162026-01-28 14:58

Do not try to sneak Flins

FloorGang-R22026-01-28 14:59

But i main him 😔💔

Historical_Clock87142026-01-28 15:30

Flins still deal the most dmg in the team tho

Medical-Blood-39742026-01-28 15:06

Skirk mains are gonna be happy for a long time 😁

Relevant_Milk62752026-01-28 15:30

Cause skirk cant even use other wheelchairs 💔

TheIndoraptor1232026-01-28 15:06

*Laughs happily in Nilou main (I love her)*

sampat62562026-01-28 16:35

I'm still made about how little synergy there is between nilou and nefer. I still run them together because I have c2r1 nilou, but ffs the seeds of deceit mechanic is so dumb

the-evening-of2026-01-28 15:10

The need for people to dunk on other people's favorite characters is so tiring. Yes it's a joke, apparently, but this "joke" is said daily in earnest, and is only said to make other people feel bad. Or to laugh at them, or both.

Draw-Two-Cards2026-01-28 15:29

If anyone is actually offended or hurt by jokes about Genshin meta they need to take time off the game and internet. Your favorite character is not deeply tied to your being.

the-evening-of2026-01-28 15:39

It has nothing to do with being offended or hurt. It's the mean spirited intent behind it. And keep in mind, people spend money on these characters, people spend time with this product, and people are excited about characters they like. Your dismissive, "oh, those special snowflakes shouldn't play the game and they need to get off the internet" is another example of exactly what I'm talking about. And just to be clear. I genuinely do not care about these fictional characters. I'm not deeply entrenched or enamored by them. I'm calling out this particular kind of rhetoric because it serves no purpose aside from insulting others.

OrbitalSong2026-01-28 17:52

Ironically, the exact people who make this type of complainy "joke" are usually the same people who have unhealthy emotional relationships with characters and the game, feeling wronged by the developers.

Substantial-Job-36622026-01-28 15:39

It's not that deep bro

Significant-Gear2872026-01-28 15:11

Lauma ineffa bina and sucrose team works just fine. I don't see the issue of being cooked.

Ambitious_Jello2026-01-28 15:11

is there any team with columbina that works without flins and ineffa? I tried with lauma and nefer and it seemed be doing no better than my earlier team with kokomi and aino. and she doesnt even heal

Key-King39762026-01-28 15:32

If I understand correctly, with columbina the whole team damage increases, not only nefer's. But also it's way more comfy since you don't need to rotate as much so you can do double E without worrying about the hydro application/vernant dews running out

StanTheWoz2026-01-28 20:13

Columbina should be a major upgrade with Nefer, but you need to make sure you have at least one non-Nod Krai character on the team for the reaction damage bonus from your resonance. If you're using Nefer-Lauma-Columbina-Aino you're leaving damage on the table from that (and Aino kind of sucks so you should drop her). Try Nahida or Sucrose instead.

Xeidin2026-01-28 15:13

I'd rather play characters in Bineffa wheelchair than not at all, because their previous BiS just didn't put up the numbers tbh. Like i don't remember the last time i played Eula and Raiden before

WanderingCollapse2026-01-28 15:14

Yeah, my boy Wanderer is cooked af. I needed to use Ineffa to beat fearless Shock trooper in Stygian. I even considered pulling Columbina for him😭

WhooooCares2026-01-28 15:15

I have cons on everyone. My Yoimiya does more damage than most players Mavuika. My roster is raw as sushi.

KageYume2026-01-28 15:34

Based

Icyflamezz2026-01-28 15:16

From my experience you can use that team with Clorinde too, I prefer her in overload though

bookshelved12026-01-28 15:23

My main is Varesa C1, I pulled and built(a meh build for now) Columbina, I accidentally pulled Ineffa right after trying to get Fischl cons and just build pity - I'm not mad about it though..., Ineffa is not built.

My account is a few months old and I'm AR56 I think. So I don't have a lot of chars yet.

I have Durin C0 built, my first 5 star, and have been keeping him in party out of habit since I pulled him.

Other built 5*s are Venti C0, Mizuki C0, Tighnari C1.

Not built, Qiqi C0 and Diluc C2, likely irrelevant here.

4* supports are Bennet C3 I think?, Fischl C5.

TLDR is it a good idea to build Ineffa to run with Varesa and Columbina? And then if so who else?

I can't see myself not using Varesa for overworld anymore lol.

sufferIhopeyoudo2026-01-28 15:23

Well, You guys play Columbina ineffa to wheel chair someone else..

I play Columbina ineffa to play Columbina.

Lovablemiranda032026-01-28 18:28

I think I'm the only one here who built Columbina as an onfielder

MiyijuraMx2026-01-28 19:23

Can I know the build please, I'm trying that but I'm not sure how to build her.

I want to play with my Ineffa bcs it's my favorite. I slapped sucrose and fischl on the team because I think they go well together.

banjo2E2026-01-29 03:32

Onfield Bina's best team is Bina-Ineffa-Lauma-Aino. Other off field hydros work but Aino's the easiest to use since she's literally just there for the hydro application. Double hydro lets you get away with having Lauma and Ineffa on the same team without messing up your auras.

For artifacts, Bina has Unveiling (obviously), Ineffa has Morningstar, and Lauma and Aino have SMS and Deepwood. IIRC Deepwood on Aino is a bit better since that way you can ensure the shred is up before Lauma uses her hold skill, but Deepwood on Lauma and SMS on Aino is obviously more convenient for theater and other teams.

Overall strategy is to spam Bina's CAs (just holding the button works the best, you can also do dash cancels if you're worried about taking hits but the timing can be rough) and otherwise keep everyone's skills/bursts up at all times. You also want to send her out right after Lauma so she can take as many of Lauma's burst buff stacks as possible, Bina's talent scalings are kind of low so she really relies on Lauma's buff to boost her damage.

Just_Roll_Already2026-01-28 20:31

A lot of us did, we're just too happy playing to post about it.

I love that she is super playable but also reinvigorates a lot of my characters that I have wanted to build but never bothered to.

Gray_Tower2026-01-28 15:25

You're concerned about your main being in a "wheelchair" team.

I'm ecstatic at the possibility of shoehorning Eula in another bullshit comp and clearing anyway.

FloorGang-R22026-01-28 15:40

Hell yeah me w my xiao on vv in a team w bineffa and durin

LzBrazil2026-01-28 16:10

Hyperbloom 2.0

cartercr2026-01-28 16:30

You know what’s hilarious? I always low key liked the idea of hyperbloom Eula from a tc perspective (I say this because I don’t actually own her). All Eula really needs is some form of energy generation and some electro to trigger superconduct. Raiden-Hyperbloom teams provide both of those without even affecting the rotation.

Flair862026-01-28 18:04

Raiden cant provide energy without her ult and building for er tho…

cartercr2026-01-28 19:41

Her skill still has decent particle generation.

AlgumNick2026-01-28 16:12

It all began with C2 raidens and hyperbloom teams, and look at us now.

Tinyzooseven2026-01-28 16:21

Same, spent 320 pulls on c0r0 bineffa just to wheelchair my c6r1 eula

Got extremely unlucky having to go to 80 twice for both

Ok_Independent36092026-01-28 19:18

Ugh. I hate it when that happens. But what an awesome wheelchair bineffa and Sucrose make!

Tinyzooseven2026-01-28 19:33

I was hoping to get a weapon too but that's not happening

DaveTheDolphin2026-01-28 16:23

The difference between character “mains” and **mains**

commietaku2026-01-28 18:08

It’s weird how “main” is often used to refer to both “main DPS” and “favorite character.” What about people who love support/sustain characters? I’m a “Zhongli main,” as in my favorite character is Zhongli, and some of us do stuff to try to make him do damage, but his best role is shielder, so that’s how I play him. He still rarely leaves my team! People who care about meta (or just decent damage) occasionally switch out their teams with powercreep, so unless they want to wheelchair their old favorite, they may have a “main” that they almost never actually play anymore. And of course, this isn’t even counting those who “main” characters who will likely never actually be released. After playing a while, people usually have a few different characters they could call their “main,” all for different reasons.

Dazais-lastbraincell2026-01-28 18:37

rip the capitano mains subreddit

ThrowawayPersonAMA2026-01-28 19:02

No no, Capitano is just resting to give others a chance to shine. He'll be back in the next arc trust...

Dazais-lastbraincell2026-01-28 19:37

never stop the cope gang

Rwaydit2026-01-29 00:09

I believe in you gng. Keep coping

myichigo2026-01-28 21:40

>I’m a “Zhongli main,” as in my favorite character is Zhongli, and some of us do stuff to try to make him do damage, but his best role is shielder

i'm here just to say that i built him full support but somehow still got good crit rolls, so i pulled an homa and now i have a shieldbot with almost 50k hp (49.7k) and a 52:175 crit ratio :D

just kinda wanted to brag him a little ahaha i know there are better zhonglis but he's my pride and joy even though he thinks he is childe (while my childe with the same rate crit more than zhongli 🤔)

SirMcDust2026-01-28 17:08

Wheelchair is the best thing to happen to my account.

I fell behind hard due to skipping pretty much all of Natlan, Lunar units brought my account back up to speed (Hexerei was also a massive buff, C2 Venti and Albedo) and now I can use older units again just by vibing in the wheelchair

KrzyDankus2026-01-28 15:27

the lion doesn't concern himself with meta

roostangarar2026-01-28 16:21

I'm so meta, even this Aino

SevenSwords77777772026-01-28 16:44

The lion knows that all teams are on the Razor edge of being meta or non-meta depending on what’s in the patch and powecreep

Like Theater to shill Lunar Geo could include a Lunar-affected boss, but take away all the Nod-Krai Dendro and Electro characters

Black_nYello2026-01-29 01:21

Its definitely not all teams. All near meta+ teams are, well, near meta. But there is no shill on the planet that could make Eula meta

Spoopy_Kirei2026-01-28 16:44

The Flame mane does not concern itself with meta

FahboyMan2026-01-29 02:49

Good enough with Chevreuse overload with Arle or Mav.

black-winter-2026-01-28 18:31

>hu tao flair

based alert

Business_Trouble_7062026-01-28 15:28

Ah I don't have Emilie nor Nahida (ahm I lost on her twice)
I run my Kinich team like this Zhongli, Dehya, Bennett and Kinich not that great but usable

Keitoteki2026-01-28 15:31

Mizuki has been flex-taping my teams together for a long time now, this is just another option for the queen to cook with

DinhLeVinh2026-01-28 15:38

Tldr, if your team isnt 100k dps you are cooked

MVALforRed2026-01-28 15:44

My best team is Raiden, Dendro Traveler, Barbara and Bennet

SecyaDenali2026-01-28 15:46

Dont mind me physical Kaeya DPS Barbara Bineffa been cooking the sht real good

Yelan Geo MC

Arle Suc/Xilo/Bennett

Durin Mona

Lauma Barbara

Nefer Lauma

Eula Escoffier

Escoffier Furina

Furina Xilonen

Navia or Chiori Xilonen

Ifa Ororon

Yelan slingshot

Hutao C1 Yelan

Yae Miko C1

Mav Iansan

Diona Yaoyao

Sara C6/Candace C6/Bennett C6

Barbara Xianyun

The yes no question is always yes there is no best team for META because META to me is Most Enjoyable Team Available with Bineffa. They reversed powercreep by saying idgaf use who you want we'll make it work.

TheresNoThe_Sis2026-01-28 15:53

What if columbina is the new main?

DasBleu2026-01-28 15:55

I’d like to take a moment to fire a tribute to King Navia, May she rest in golden splendor and be resurrected by Luna crystal.

anyafujoshi2026-01-28 15:55

*laughs menacingly in having the same main team for 5 years*
I main travaler, ganyu, yanfei and fishcl

Daydreamy-Water2026-01-28 15:57

Diluc isn’t cooked

daydreamfairybeam2026-01-28 16:04

Ifa is cooked?! No way brooo

The_French_Soul2026-01-28 16:04

So ig my clorinde is cooked but my varesa aint, nice

Impossible-Ice1292026-01-28 16:04

I'd say flins also would count in the cooked category only

MorganTaoVT2026-01-28 16:06

I'm having quite a lot of fun with my Columbinavia team which includes Aino and Zhongli.

Former-Secretary27182026-01-28 16:07

Honestly, I don't really care about meta and being cooked. What's important is I can still clear most, if not all endgame content and can kill overworld bosses and mobs while enjoying exploration with my favorite characters.

KatzeDas2026-01-28 16:10

noelle isnt cooked lfg

Disastrous_Elk_66912026-01-28 16:10

Team for zibai tho

Gebbbet2026-01-28 16:15

I don’t have a single limited lunar character….

Phylake82026-01-28 16:17

What about Lauma, Ineffa, Bina team?

Ok-Camel5722026-01-28 16:19

PHEW nilou is saved for now! Ineffa would be the end of my 74k HP Nilou-boom!

Capable-Tart81682026-01-28 16:21

So because a team doesnt one shot an enemy in .5 seconds it means they are cooked?🤣

s-josten2026-01-28 16:22

Joke's on you, I main Xinyan, she's been cooked since she released

cartercr2026-01-28 16:25

I do love the idea that a support can only exist for one very specific dps and nobody else.

I miss the old days when this community wasn’t like this. The days when a man could say “I play Keqing” and it would be “based” and not “lmfao, what a fucking wheelchair, you aren’t even playing Keqing at that point!”

Jer_Sg2026-01-28 21:44

I don't really get it either, my SO still plays keqing and yae together nowadays because its the entire reason she started playing the game and I think it's incredibly based.

It's really annoying when people just act all snobby when alot of characters are fine to just play around with especially in the overworld which is 90% of the game anyway.

LesserTierArchon2026-01-28 22:54

the reality is these days people who main the former meta like alhaitham, raiden etc are veterans who have seen and survived many rounds of powercreep

these veterans with the generational wealth of 5 years of primos, even the f2p and welkin ones, are going to pull out dire weapon skins and c2 characters like it's nothing and they know more than anyone else how temporary the meta can be

sometimes us veteran players just play old mains for the sake of nostalgia, I could overkill abyss with a 700k dps team or I could play kokomi yelan mono hydro for old times sake because those 2 carried my account 4 years ago

the-evening-of2026-01-29 00:24

Sometimes I wish that everyone who runs their mouths about wheelchairs and what not should be required to prove their runs on the test dummy. I promise you that veterans who have invested over the years in their favorite characters are going to be really well informed, and have high artifact quality to get consistent dps.

Alawogiws2026-01-29 00:19

Yup I returned to the game after a year+ and am surprised by this attitude even in casual spaces.

Like Bennett Xiangling was a 'wheelchair' but it was part-meme, part-annoyance

No one called characters 'dead' every time a better dps of their element released, cuz we knew meaningful rewards from endgame weren't that hard to obtain anyways. We followed TC but didn't have teams' spreadsheet dps memorized 😭

So many more people are concerned with cons, sigs, and being "#1 dps" ~~for 3 months~~ now

AntwysiaBlakys2026-01-28 16:25

If we follow that logic literally almost every character in the game is "cooked in the current meta"

Characters will do more damage with Bineffa because they're a strong wheelchair team

It doesn't mean that the same characters without Bineffa are bad

dankohli2026-01-28 16:34

My goat Arlecchino will never be cooked

TheDummyPhilosopher2026-01-28 17:01

Got that C1 Xiao for the lantern rite, who cares about meta

Churaragi2026-01-28 18:23

This infographic brought to you by people who are mad that Mavuika does 180k but can't actually do even the most basic version of her best combo.

Also kind of ironic since wheelchair(bennet etc) is literaly what people use as an excuse to glaze Genshin's balance throughout history but sure, funny I guess lol.

Glamador2026-01-28 18:38

I've seen comments since 1.2 saying that "all of your carry's power is just Bennett" or "Xiangling does more damage in this team than your Childe/Raiden".

This game has always been Support Impact. It's no secret. I just want a bit more balance between the best and 2nd best options...

There is only one Bennett. There is only one Kazuha. There is only one Furina. There is only one Xilonen or Citlali. And now there is only one Columbina. I don't mind that, but when they are the lynchpin of EVERY team I want to build for whatever is being shilled today...how do I make 2-3 distinct teams?

m1ldh1gh2026-01-28 18:47

even simpler guide for the current meta:
is your main columbina?
yes - you’re not cooked
no - you’re cooked