I know powercreep plays a role in it but I figured my teams would at least be averaging more than 70k
SecyaDenali2026-01-28 16:05
Something is up with your Skirk team being that low she should be doing alot more than 86k
Violet_Villian2026-01-28 16:13
Question, are you supposed to burst on the 1st rotation follow it up her skill mode then just do skill mode from then on
DarkAlatreon2026-01-28 16:21
Try doing set up with team so that the three fissures appear, tap E, Q to absorb the fissures, go ham with normal attacks (check out optimal combos with cancelling if you are so inclined).
RubApprehensive25122026-01-28 16:25
The biggest thing I can see is the lack of the 50% damage bonus from yelan. Other than that, you should be near 100k dps with her.
Which arti set are you using and what do your builds look like? And is furina on tenacity?
gomitest2026-01-28 17:09
https://youtu.be/50ARAuRb9h4?si=JuER4t9uH0rQQ6e7
AGamingGuy2026-01-28 17:33
by checking out your Akasha, it seems to be a rotation issue, now i won't suggest you try the sewatlord rotation, but a basic rotation should be just N5Q (3N5)C N5 spam (you can dash when 5th normal connects to skip end lag)
basically your charged attack isn't buffed so it's typically a DPS loss, also, with the weapon you are running on Skirk see if you have an equivalent or better Marechausse hunter as it is better than Deep Galleries (make sure you don't have more than 64 CR)
IamAlwaysOk2026-01-28 16:07
Arle and Wanderer damage are to be expected but that Skirk team damage is underwhelming.
Violet_Villian2026-01-28 16:09
Question, are you supposed to burst on the 1st rotation follow it up her skill mode then just do skill mode from then on
IamAlwaysOk2026-01-28 16:17
I've seen rotations like that, but I'm no Skirk user so while I understand concepts about Skirk, I haven't truly grasped her nuances especially between burst focused and NA focused beyond the basic differences. So try heading into Skirk mains subreddit they can tell you what you are lacking, you might also pick some new tech ~~like her god forbidden walk cancel tech~~.
Erakusle2026-01-28 16:09
Why is everyone 60 sec but Flins is 120sec?
Violet_Villian2026-01-28 16:10
Yeah I used the wrong photo, the 60 second rotation was about the same
Dyzinel2026-01-28 17:02
I believe using 60s retotations is incredibly unreliable tbh. Some units may get luck to not have much of a difference on longer times, but others may have a 30k leap in damage depending on where in the rotarion they were when the time ends. That's why I always go for 90s. Technically, 120s is even more accurate, but that's too long, so I settled with 90s.
AnalWithAcheron2026-01-28 16:13
Boils down to rotation issue or build issue, probably both looking at Skirk who is very low. She should be much closer to Flins not 50K behind.
Tensz2026-01-28 16:18
Most pre Natlan team were in 80k DPS, so it sounds about right. Skirk team should be 100k+ DPS though. Flins is accurate, that's why it is one of the best teams right now.
what-the-helll2026-01-28 16:19
What’s your Flins team constellations/weapons like? My damage is way lower.
I usually do Sucrose skill, Ineffa ult then skill, Columbina ult then skill, and then two of Flins special ultimates then repeat
Pure_Introduction3302026-01-28 16:25
Use Sucrose before and after Flins!
what-the-helll2026-01-28 17:02
Ok, I’ll do that, thanks!
WhooooCares2026-01-28 16:20
Low Crit Rate is the biggest reason. Wanderer, Skirk, Furina and Arlecchino are losing tons of damage with their 70%-ish Crit Rate. Flins on the other hand has a 91% effective Crit Rate. I hate when people on Reddit tell people who are concerned about their damage that 70% is acceptable for Crit Rate. It's really bad.
Raise your Crit Rate for those characters on the Test Dummy and see how much your DPS goes up. They need their overall artifact quality improved. Rotations could also be an issue, but no one can tell from pictures.
Sylent0o2026-01-28 16:47
75-80 ish is good-ish
70 or less is bad
because going above 80 without legit perfect rolls is just u actually not being able to "FISH " for higher dmg ur dmg will actually be lower because if u have like 75 ish but more crit damage u can get "lucky" and be with higher dps ( relevant for fearless and dire stygian )
for consistency higher crit rate is better but that is \_ consistency in showing dps numbers \_ not actually theoretical higher dmg
WhooooCares2026-01-28 17:07
It's not. But that mentality and understanding of math is exactly why Genshin players struggle at doing damage. My Keqing team with C2 Durin [is doing more damage](https://www.reddit.com/r/KeqingMains/comments/1qlhq97/keqing_overloadc2_durin_114k_dps/). Crit Rate and build quality are the issues with that team. You can tell players on here how to check/verify, give the reasoning, show examples of you doing it and they'll still argue while providing none of that of their own.
---pussyslayer69---2026-01-28 18:30
Fishing is an actual thing. And secondly op's crit rate is not the reason he is doing 86k dps lol. My c0r1 skirk does 140-150k consistently using the same time test he's using and I don't even use furina. No scroll/totm minmaxing, no walk cancels. https://i.imgur.com/X1fxEQt.jpeg
86k dps means, outside of basic things like leveling talent's, his issue is 99% likely on the actual rotation.
Medyanka2026-01-28 18:55
It's funny how you are talking about "math", while math disagrees with you. Whether crit rate is 70, 80, or 90 doesn't actually matter at all. What actually matters is crit ratio. People claiming that 70-75 is enough came from the times when it came together with "obvious" 140-150 crit damage. It's only wrong now, because people started calling that 70-75 number without understanding the reason behind it, together with inflated 300+ crit damage.
Also, Kiniich and chasca has damn near the crit cap, cause they are surely on the obsidian codex, and neuvilette is straight up overcapped.
"Fixing" crit ratio for skirk will up her personal damage by less than 3%, aka:
avg crit modifier for 73/222: 0.27\*1 + 0.73\*3.22 = 2.6206
avg crit modifier for 90/188: 0.10\*1 + 0.9\*2.88 = 2.692
And 2.692/2.6206 = 1.0272, aka 2.7% difference.
Which in a team where she had only 57% of damage contribution will barely change 86k into 87k.
WhooooCares2026-01-28 19:14
I looked at his builds and came to my conclusion, you're arguing numbers in a vacuum. The characters I mentioned are right around KQM investment with stats that aren't distributed in the best ways. The damage shown isn't not far off from what they're supposed to be getting. Characters scale with more than Crit so talking crit ratios in a vaccum is meaningless. [I can have a 1 to 1.19 Crit Ratio](https://www.reddit.com/r/furinamains/comments/1nq80u2/who_needs_crit_damage_when_you_have_hp/) and do damage.
They need to farm more for more Crit Rate and stats to be close to the DPS Flins is doing.
glitchartz2026-01-28 16:30
My experience with these DPS checks are that my rotations is worse than I thought. Really need to learn a good rotation with my teams.
Vegetto_ssj2026-01-28 16:32
Some of your dps have really low CR. (ARLE and Wanderer)
burgumbira2026-01-28 16:35
It's skirk premium team although c0 except xq c6 the team should be able to reach around 120. Lower than flins premium but not that low.
Sylent0o2026-01-28 16:45
welcome to powercreep :D yes the difference between klee/ arle and flins is THAT big
hence why for everyone varka is mid cuz he has the dmg of 2023 release not 2026
belfouf2026-01-28 16:47
your Skik lacks ATK
Tamamo_was_here2026-01-28 17:14
You playing Skirk wrong for sure
AffectionateAd60372026-01-28 17:50
For skirk, you may see better results throwing citlali or rosaria in there instead of xingqiu. Xingqiu is killing cryo resonance uptime.
324Cats2026-01-28 19:28
flins should be comfortably stronger than most of your dps, you need to look up a skirk guide because she should be clear second best, also for your columbina/lauma team i think you only play it like that if you have nilou otherwise you need to go hyper or burgeon
gryphon_duke2026-01-28 20:27
flins is a borderline braindead character to play. you're definitely having rotation issues with the other cast. i run skirk with n5 n5 n5 n2c n5. the first n5 is cancelled with her special burst and the rest are directionless dashes. you cancel as soon as the attack connects to make a damage number. the charged attack you can cancel as soon as it comes out. support order is always furina, escoffier, flex slot
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Which arti set are you using and what do your builds look like? And is furina on tenacity?
basically your charged attack isn't buffed so it's typically a DPS loss, also, with the weapon you are running on Skirk see if you have an equivalent or better Marechausse hunter as it is better than Deep Galleries (make sure you don't have more than 64 CR)
I usually do Sucrose skill, Ineffa ult then skill, Columbina ult then skill, and then two of Flins special ultimates then repeat
Raise your Crit Rate for those characters on the Test Dummy and see how much your DPS goes up. They need their overall artifact quality improved. Rotations could also be an issue, but no one can tell from pictures.
70 or less is bad
because going above 80 without legit perfect rolls is just u actually not being able to "FISH " for higher dmg ur dmg will actually be lower because if u have like 75 ish but more crit damage u can get "lucky" and be with higher dps ( relevant for fearless and dire stygian )
for consistency higher crit rate is better but that is \_ consistency in showing dps numbers \_ not actually theoretical higher dmg
86k dps means, outside of basic things like leveling talent's, his issue is 99% likely on the actual rotation.
Also, Kiniich and chasca has damn near the crit cap, cause they are surely on the obsidian codex, and neuvilette is straight up overcapped.
"Fixing" crit ratio for skirk will up her personal damage by less than 3%, aka:
avg crit modifier for 73/222: 0.27\*1 + 0.73\*3.22 = 2.6206
avg crit modifier for 90/188: 0.10\*1 + 0.9\*2.88 = 2.692
And 2.692/2.6206 = 1.0272, aka 2.7% difference.
Which in a team where she had only 57% of damage contribution will barely change 86k into 87k.
They need to farm more for more Crit Rate and stats to be close to the DPS Flins is doing.
hence why for everyone varka is mid cuz he has the dmg of 2023 release not 2026
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